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deleting files from windows folder (ROM) how to?

Hi all,
once i had proof how much MB the windows folder swallows, i wants to delete some unused files from it.
i.e. some sample movies i don't need....
BUT i cant if they are in ROM (TotalCommander>File Properties>"inRom" is set)
Is there a chance to dump them?

why?
the files in windows dir are in the part of the ROM! not ram
that you cant access apart from when you flash a rom on the device
if you could delete it it would not give you any more ram
or any more storage what so ever
it's kinda like trying to remove parts of ones pc's bios really
it dont serve any purpos

ah ok, thanks
i had fantasies about getting more storage memory
ok...

Hallo,
i want change one file. It is in windows, and it's a Rom file.
I have the Gigabyte g-smart, and i think this is the file witch have the Letters from the Hardware Keyboard.
Maybe there is any way to add in this file .dll also Greek Letters.
I also have tryed many things to copy this file, but i can`t.
Can anyboby Help Please???

any way/software for us to delete album sample in rom?

Those are really useless. thank you.
would like to delete those, but it's file protected, do any guys know any software can ignore the protection and delete it? thanks

Just use a better filemanager. Try TotalCommander (choose the cab for arm/xscale/pxa to install directly from pda).

thanks for your reply. I tried the TotalCommander, still not able to delete those. Very sad.

try deleting it using htc album, worked for me...

These Album samples reside in the directory Internal Storage\My Documents\My Pictures. Just use any File Explorer to go there and delete them and they are gone..

ya, i deleted those in "my pictures", but discover there are copies in windows directory and not able to be deleted.

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These Album Sample xx files are totally useless and each of them takes about 900 Ko of memory space.
How is it possible there is no way to remove all the album samples as well as the unused ringtones.
Why such a waste of memory space ?
Even with Total Commander it does not work....

It's only possible by recooking a ROM.
I've recooked the 2.03 ROM, and I removed the album files and ringtones. I'm going to upload and release it later.

They are in ROM. Even if you delete them, what good will that do? It's not like you'll be freeing memory that can be used by the system.

pedmond said:
They are in ROM. Even if you delete them, what good will that do? It's not like you'll be freeing memory that can be used by the system.
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That is why a recooked ROM is necessary.

l3v5y said:
That is why a recooked ROM is necessary.
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I think that what he meant is that they only take up storage space, not RAM.
To me 900 kb of storage space is no big deal since the Diamond has plenty of storage and I haven't noticed any speed difference between the small device storage (ROM) and internal storage (4gb).

Delete File in Windows Mobile 6

Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?

Maybe Resco Explorer or Total Commander CE will help.

if it's built in the rom, you might be unable to delete that file.
Please be more specific: which file do you wish to delete?
Maybe you'd have to recook the ROM without that file.
Regards,
EquinoXe

Things built into the rom are "READ ONLY MEMORY" therefore cannot be deleted. if the file is only marked as system and readonly though you can change its atributes using total commander. just long click on item to bring up menu and go to properties. there you need to uncheck everything and delete

I had downloaded Total Commander and installed it, the checked file attributes are 'read only' and 'in rom'; so I guess the file shall be consider undeleteable.
Now I had to learn how to recook, any good guide how can I recook the ROM that I have?

similar problem
I downloaded some software and it came up as being faulty software. The file was a zip folder titled : res_ppc-custom.icons
I tried through my windows mobile device center to uninstall it, but it was never actually installed completely in the first place.
I then tried to delete the file a few times. Once directly from my pda, once through the device center and again through my pc windows explorer. All three attempts were unsuccessful.
How can I get rid of this thing?
Thanks in advance

perhaps you may want to check if the file being accessed by other software, easiest way is to soft reset and try to delete it.

That did the trick! Thanks so much

Move files to storage card
OK I want to move some files (not ROM) in Windows and keep getting error. For example Opera.exe is not marked as anything in properties yet I can't seem to delete the file. I did copy it to my storage card without any issue but can't delete the original from Windows directory. Any suggestions since Total Commander won't delete it. Will edit registry to find it on the Storage Card.

Deleting files in Windows folder
mynullvoid said:
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
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I have the same problem - I have colpilot.wm6ppc.cab in my Windows directory. It's 12.6mb, I don't want it, and it's taking up a lot of storage space. My phone is a T-Mobile MDA and it obviously came with CoPilot as an option, but I think it's really unfair that the cab is right there in the Windows dir and I can't get rid of it....
Any help gratefully received....
Cheers,
Ed.

The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.

Farmer Ted said:
The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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I think the issue is not on the files in ROM.
I have the same problem. I've copied a file under Windows folder and after that I'm unable to delete it.
Strangely I'm able to rename it, which should mean that file is not in use, however deletion is not possible.
I've used TotalCommander, the built-in Explorer and also connected the phone via ActiveSync, but still nothing happens and access seems to be denied.
The exact message is "deletion error".
Any idea?
Thanks.
Cheers...
-nOra-

A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.

johnylog.software said:
A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?

djulen said:
Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...

badbwoydes said:
Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Use Total Commander to modify the contents of the \Windows directory.

Yes, but you won't be able to delete a ROM file anyway.
In the \Windows folder, you commonly encounter three kinds of files :
- Pure ROM files (can't be deleted nor renamed nor moved, nor even copied, but can be overwritten, consuming internal storage memory space in the process to store the new copy, that will become used instead) ;
- Files put there by installation CABs or else (can be freely deleted, renamed or moved, provided they're not currently used by a running process) ;
- Files put on top of previously existing ROM files, wearing the same name (deleting, renaming or moving them will thus make the original ROM file undertneath to reappear with its original contents and attributes).
Once you've understood that, you'll be more aware of what's cooking there.
ROM files can't even be copied, but you can use ROMExtractor to copy them elsewhere, in case you want to study them, or use them in your own ROM (useful to get up-to date versions from another HTC device to cook your own ROM).
Since ROMExtractor is a very minimalistic tool (you have to type in all the files names with their path, same for the target copy, all one by one !) manually extracting hundreds (even thousands) of files is a very tedious taks, I made a MortScript to automate the process in order to extract all those DLLs, EXEs, MUIs, etc. files that can't be directly copied from a phone's ROM.
On the other hand, you absolutely can't delete a ROM file to make room. Overwriting it with a file wearing the same name will jut result in actually adding the new file, thus consuming even more room. The new file will just be used instead of the original one (so you can still update or personalize the ROM).
As a direct consequence, the only way to get rid of unwanted ROM files or permanently replacing them with up-to-date ones is to cook a ROM and flash it to the device to replace the old one.
That's way how operating systems can become better and better, and save space at the same time.
And no, Windows Mobile isn't dead : I'm not quite finished with fixing it until it's perfect, so it's not over yet. LOL

Dummy 0 KB Files

There are many useless files in the Windows directory that cannot be deleted, however, you can replace them with some 0 KB files. Here are 46 useless files that will free up more than 10 MB of space. There are more useless files, although the file sizes aren't as large as these, but feel free to add/post them. Always backup the original ones in your computer just in case you want to restore them.
To replace these files, copy them to the phone's internal storage with ActiveSnyc, then use Total Commander to copy them to the Windows directory.

You sure?
Just one question... if they're 'useless' files, why are they there? Surely some application somewhere will need them - or am I missing something obvious here

grahamkdt said:
Just one question... if they're 'useless' files, why are they there? Surely some application somewhere will need them - or am I missing something obvious here
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The 46 files that I consider them useless are sample images, ringtones, and a few .cab files. The Album Sample_01.jpg to Album Sample_11.jpg images alone are worth a few MB. For the ringtone, I only use one, so all the others are useless. Finally, there are some .cab files that were used only during the initial setup of the phone, and once they're used, these .cab files won't be used again.

OK...
Cheers... I'm with you. Didn't realise there was all that crap on there. Mind you, I'm using AZTOR's ROM, so he's probably removed all the 'junk' already!

If these files can't be deleted then they're in the ROM.
Replacing them with 0KB versions does not save any disk space and is completely pointless - unless you are deliberately trying to remove functionality.

Davey101 said:
If these files can't be deleted then they're in the ROM.
Replacing them with 0KB versions does not save any disk space and is completely pointless - unless you are deliberately trying to remove functionality.
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Are you sure? When I replaced those files, the free space showing under Memory -> Storage has increased.

To help this man.
What this .cab does it's overwrite existing "installations files", does that appir on first boot. (When you install opera).
This cab, overwrite the installations file, so it not fill up your diamond with old used installations files.
.. And thanks for sharing the cab with us. :=)

grahamkdt said:
Cheers... I'm with you. Didn't realise there was all that crap on there. Mind you, I'm using AZTOR's ROM, so he's probably removed all the 'junk' already!
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not likely alzphazero's philosophy is to keep everything as close as possible... meaning no image optimization / removal / changes...

vale|46 said:
Are you sure? When I replaced those files, the free space showing under Memory -> Storage has increased.
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No I'm not sure... I just assumed they were in the ROM given that you said they couldn't be deleted. If they're not in the ROM then this is a valid workaround, though there must be some other way of deleting them.

i was going to make a thingy like this but now i see it already exists im going to use yours

Replacing files in ROM with 0KB will not save any space. I just tried it. The space you saved is from the files which are NOT in the ROM.

Getting rid of double files \windows (initflashfiles.dat)

Hi m8´s,
if i declare files/folders in initflashfile for copying files from \windows to their app folders, is there a way to get rid of them in \windows after copy ?
is there something like "mv" ?
coz they are twice on the phone then?
that could safe alot of space .....
thx
Brian

needle2k said:
Hi m8´s,
if i declare files/folders in initflashfile for copying files from \windows to their app folders, is there a way to get rid of them in \windows after copy ?
is there something like "mv" ?
coz they are twice on the phone then?
that could safe alot of space .....
thx
Brian
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Thats impossible. Once u have files in ROM, you cant delete them after boot, because rom needs them for hardreset. But you are able to to place copy on other folders that will take place from storage memory automatically during first boot (initflashes).