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Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up 8MB

There is alot of useless stuff in Windows dir and some of them can't be deleted
* Why the hell should help files and pictures for all programs is stored automaticly in windows dir?
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
* Big today themes, Big pictures and even some 3gp/mp4 videos in there
I moved the help files to my Storage Card, replaced the BIG (2MB) themes with some smaller one, But there are some stuff which can't be overwritten I need help with (ex. I want to move powerpoint and some other programs to my Storage Card)
Is there a manual for which file is harmless to remove from windows dir? and how to do it?
Need advice

Re: Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up
shaytaan said:
There is alot of useless stuff in Windows dir and some of them can't be deleted
* Why the hell should help files and pictures for all programs is stored automaticly in windows dir?
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This is one thing that also ticks me off. I absolutely hate programs that install anything anywhere but the installation directory of the program. Some programs just install the help file right in the same dirctory, and it works fine there. It makes it so much easier to delete all the stray junk left behind, and programs that do not install crap everywhere can easily be moved by just moving the directory. This is the essence of clean software. This is how it works on a Mac, and I will be damned if anyone can prove to me that it is so much better to litter my entire computer with crap everywhere.

Re: Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up
shaytaan said:
There is alot of useless stuff in Windows dir and some of them can't be deleted
* Why the hell should help files and pictures for all programs is stored automaticly in windows dir?
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
* Big today themes, Big pictures and even some 3gp/mp4 videos in there
I moved the help files to my Storage Card, replaced the BIG (2MB) themes with some smaller one, But there are some stuff which can't be overwritten I need help with (ex. I want to move powerpoint and some other programs to my Storage Card)
Is there a manual for which file is harmless to remove from windows dir? and how to do it?
Need advice
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Well apprently I am not helping you.. just asking :how did you succeed replacing the 2m Themes ? It won't let me do it.
Tks

I gave another theme the same name as the one in windows dir and overwritten that using Resco Explorer

Re: Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up
shaytaan said:
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
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Not sure, but isn't the AppMgr folder used for the Remove Programs function?

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astage said:
shaytaan said:
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
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Not sure, but isn't the AppMgr folder used for the Remove Programs function?
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It is, and you may safely remove/relocate it to somewhere else. You'll only need it again when you uninstall a given app. Please see for example http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?p=775972 for more info.

Re: Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up
Menneisyys said:
astage said:
shaytaan said:
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
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Not sure, but isn't the AppMgr folder used for the Remove Programs function?
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It is.....
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Thanks for that info. However, keeping the AppMgr folder may not be useful for uninstalling if you are in the habit of restoring your device from a backup - as I do. Installations appear to use unique IDs that are not recreated when the backup is restored, so subsequent uninstalls (and upgrades with enforced uninstall) fail.

Are you sure you've overwritten the big themes. My guess they were in your rom & all you did was putting a small theme in ram. Costs you only memory then...

oltp said:
Are you sure you've overwritten the big themes. My guess they were in your rom & all you did was putting a small theme in ram. Costs you only memory then...
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I've the same opinion. This is probably what you did. You can't overwrite files in ROM. In case you can, it will not help you with clen RAM :-(

Re: Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up
dma1965 said:
shaytaan said:
There is alot of useless stuff in Windows dir and some of them can't be deleted
* Why the hell should help files and pictures for all programs is stored automaticly in windows dir?
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This is the essence of clean software. This is how it works on a Mac, and I will be damned if anyone can prove to me that it is so much better to litter my entire computer with crap everywhere.
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On a Mac you do get some associated files ( app prefs or plists, or other support files and some plug-ins) installed in other places asides from the application dierctory or folder, however these are usually minimal and still easily found & deleted if required.
This is one of the difficulties any Mac user finds with Windows and probably why more switch from Wintels to Apples than vice versa....
ahem.. anyway back to WM5...

Xander said:
oltp said:
Are you sure you've overwritten the big themes. My guess they were in your rom & all you did was putting a small theme in ram. Costs you only memory then...
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I've the same opinion. This is probably what you did. You can't overwrite files in ROM. In case you can, it will not help you with clen RAM :-(
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No. You CAN overwrite files with Resco. Me too. I did it many times.
And you are not right. It will help you not exactly to clean the RAM, but speedup your PDA, because WM5 uses not just RAM for calculating, but storage memory too for extracted files which need it, or when you install an application from your PC, the installer .exe file first copy its .cab file to your storage memory. You can check it when you install something. Look at the size of your Storage when it asks to choose where to install, and look after program installed.

someone should write an application that automates this. notify the maker of tweaks2k2 or vijay555

Can you tell me what happens when you delete a file which was supposed to be written in rom, keep a copy of it somewhere else. I know WM5 differs from 2K3, but I can hardly believe that you can cause severe damage to your CE rom. & on my magician I can 'overwrite' CE-rom files with ram files, but when I delete them the original CE-rom file shows again.
So by overwriting a large theme in rom with a small theme, as has been claimed, I guess you always loose space unless you can also delete the original theme from the rom. & if that's possible why overwrite it, instead of deleting it straight away?
Get my point? I'm not an unbeliever, just not convinced that you don't loose some kind of precious storage.
Regards, M

Thought about .tmp files:
I have a TyTn and my storage memory is down to about 23mb. I was exploring my device with Resco Explorer and explored \Windows\AppMgr. There were a lot of folders in the directory, mostly application folders that I installed in my device. There is also a folder named \Install (\Windows\AppMgr\Install). The \Install folder contains .cab files that are 8mb large. the app folders in \AppMgr contains .dll and .tmp files. I deleted ALL the .tmp files and the .cab files and my available storage memory is now 34mb. There were no negative effects with such deletions even after a few resets and application launching.
I believe that the .tmp files were created during installs and the .cab files were copied when installing files to device memory.
Hope this will help those with low storage memory. Just be sure to make a backup before deleting the files I mentioned. Thanks.

deleting files from windows folder (ROM) how to?

Hi all,
once i had proof how much MB the windows folder swallows, i wants to delete some unused files from it.
i.e. some sample movies i don't need....
BUT i cant if they are in ROM (TotalCommander>File Properties>"inRom" is set)
Is there a chance to dump them?

why?
the files in windows dir are in the part of the ROM! not ram
that you cant access apart from when you flash a rom on the device
if you could delete it it would not give you any more ram
or any more storage what so ever
it's kinda like trying to remove parts of ones pc's bios really
it dont serve any purpos

ah ok, thanks
i had fantasies about getting more storage memory
ok...

Hallo,
i want change one file. It is in windows, and it's a Rom file.
I have the Gigabyte g-smart, and i think this is the file witch have the Letters from the Hardware Keyboard.
Maybe there is any way to add in this file .dll also Greek Letters.
I also have tryed many things to copy this file, but i can`t.
Can anyboby Help Please???

any way/software for us to delete album sample in rom?

Those are really useless. thank you.
would like to delete those, but it's file protected, do any guys know any software can ignore the protection and delete it? thanks

Just use a better filemanager. Try TotalCommander (choose the cab for arm/xscale/pxa to install directly from pda).

thanks for your reply. I tried the TotalCommander, still not able to delete those. Very sad.

try deleting it using htc album, worked for me...

These Album samples reside in the directory Internal Storage\My Documents\My Pictures. Just use any File Explorer to go there and delete them and they are gone..

ya, i deleted those in "my pictures", but discover there are copies in windows directory and not able to be deleted.

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These Album Sample xx files are totally useless and each of them takes about 900 Ko of memory space.
How is it possible there is no way to remove all the album samples as well as the unused ringtones.
Why such a waste of memory space ?
Even with Total Commander it does not work....

It's only possible by recooking a ROM.
I've recooked the 2.03 ROM, and I removed the album files and ringtones. I'm going to upload and release it later.

They are in ROM. Even if you delete them, what good will that do? It's not like you'll be freeing memory that can be used by the system.

pedmond said:
They are in ROM. Even if you delete them, what good will that do? It's not like you'll be freeing memory that can be used by the system.
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That is why a recooked ROM is necessary.

l3v5y said:
That is why a recooked ROM is necessary.
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I think that what he meant is that they only take up storage space, not RAM.
To me 900 kb of storage space is no big deal since the Diamond has plenty of storage and I haven't noticed any speed difference between the small device storage (ROM) and internal storage (4gb).

Delete File in Windows Mobile 6

Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?

Maybe Resco Explorer or Total Commander CE will help.

if it's built in the rom, you might be unable to delete that file.
Please be more specific: which file do you wish to delete?
Maybe you'd have to recook the ROM without that file.
Regards,
EquinoXe

Things built into the rom are "READ ONLY MEMORY" therefore cannot be deleted. if the file is only marked as system and readonly though you can change its atributes using total commander. just long click on item to bring up menu and go to properties. there you need to uncheck everything and delete

I had downloaded Total Commander and installed it, the checked file attributes are 'read only' and 'in rom'; so I guess the file shall be consider undeleteable.
Now I had to learn how to recook, any good guide how can I recook the ROM that I have?

similar problem
I downloaded some software and it came up as being faulty software. The file was a zip folder titled : res_ppc-custom.icons
I tried through my windows mobile device center to uninstall it, but it was never actually installed completely in the first place.
I then tried to delete the file a few times. Once directly from my pda, once through the device center and again through my pc windows explorer. All three attempts were unsuccessful.
How can I get rid of this thing?
Thanks in advance

perhaps you may want to check if the file being accessed by other software, easiest way is to soft reset and try to delete it.

That did the trick! Thanks so much

Move files to storage card
OK I want to move some files (not ROM) in Windows and keep getting error. For example Opera.exe is not marked as anything in properties yet I can't seem to delete the file. I did copy it to my storage card without any issue but can't delete the original from Windows directory. Any suggestions since Total Commander won't delete it. Will edit registry to find it on the Storage Card.

Deleting files in Windows folder
mynullvoid said:
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
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I have the same problem - I have colpilot.wm6ppc.cab in my Windows directory. It's 12.6mb, I don't want it, and it's taking up a lot of storage space. My phone is a T-Mobile MDA and it obviously came with CoPilot as an option, but I think it's really unfair that the cab is right there in the Windows dir and I can't get rid of it....
Any help gratefully received....
Cheers,
Ed.

The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.

Farmer Ted said:
The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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I think the issue is not on the files in ROM.
I have the same problem. I've copied a file under Windows folder and after that I'm unable to delete it.
Strangely I'm able to rename it, which should mean that file is not in use, however deletion is not possible.
I've used TotalCommander, the built-in Explorer and also connected the phone via ActiveSync, but still nothing happens and access seems to be denied.
The exact message is "deletion error".
Any idea?
Thanks.
Cheers...
-nOra-

A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.

johnylog.software said:
A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?

djulen said:
Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...

badbwoydes said:
Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Use Total Commander to modify the contents of the \Windows directory.

Yes, but you won't be able to delete a ROM file anyway.
In the \Windows folder, you commonly encounter three kinds of files :
- Pure ROM files (can't be deleted nor renamed nor moved, nor even copied, but can be overwritten, consuming internal storage memory space in the process to store the new copy, that will become used instead) ;
- Files put there by installation CABs or else (can be freely deleted, renamed or moved, provided they're not currently used by a running process) ;
- Files put on top of previously existing ROM files, wearing the same name (deleting, renaming or moving them will thus make the original ROM file undertneath to reappear with its original contents and attributes).
Once you've understood that, you'll be more aware of what's cooking there.
ROM files can't even be copied, but you can use ROMExtractor to copy them elsewhere, in case you want to study them, or use them in your own ROM (useful to get up-to date versions from another HTC device to cook your own ROM).
Since ROMExtractor is a very minimalistic tool (you have to type in all the files names with their path, same for the target copy, all one by one !) manually extracting hundreds (even thousands) of files is a very tedious taks, I made a MortScript to automate the process in order to extract all those DLLs, EXEs, MUIs, etc. files that can't be directly copied from a phone's ROM.
On the other hand, you absolutely can't delete a ROM file to make room. Overwriting it with a file wearing the same name will jut result in actually adding the new file, thus consuming even more room. The new file will just be used instead of the original one (so you can still update or personalize the ROM).
As a direct consequence, the only way to get rid of unwanted ROM files or permanently replacing them with up-to-date ones is to cook a ROM and flash it to the device to replace the old one.
That's way how operating systems can become better and better, and save space at the same time.
And no, Windows Mobile isn't dead : I'm not quite finished with fixing it until it's perfect, so it's not over yet. LOL

[q] how to delete a file?

Hello,
the title sounds silly, i know, but i really have trouble deleting some files.
Inside directory: /storage/sdcard0/dcim/.thumbnails there are several files for which if i look their properties i see that they are about 2gb in size.
Since my device has only 8 gb of memory, 2gb is way too much for image cache.
I try to delete theese files.
The problem is that whenever i delete those files they reappear, that is, my internal sdcard is still almost full, and those files despite that are not shown, but they are in the system somewhere, since my free space did not increased at all. Those files reappear in this same folder, after a few days and are still a couple of gb large.
How to really delete those files?