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Backup question w/ Titanium

What is the recommended batch operation for restoring apps using Titanium backup?
If i backup and restore system data + user apps after flashing ROMs that add files to this list (such as T-mobile wifi calling) will I run into problems?
Should I solely backup and restore user apps, and leave system apps alone?
Thanks. Im using a Telus SG2x w/ Jug 4.1 + Bullet

i would recommend only restoring user apps... and system apps one at a time if needed.

L_B said:
What is the recommended batch operation for restoring apps using Titanium backup?
If i backup and restore system data + user apps after flashing ROMs that add files to this list (such as T-mobile wifi calling) will I run into problems?
Should I solely backup and restore user apps, and leave system apps alone?
Thanks. Im using a Telus SG2x w/ Jug 4.1 + Bullet
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Don't restore apps or data.. download them fresh from the market or you will have issues with Juggernaut
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Never restore system data. You can always restore apps plus data. Why you can't on juggarnaut is a problem with that ROM not titanium.
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xsteven77x said:
Never restore system data. You can always restore apps plus data. Why you can't on juggarnaut is a problem with that ROM not titanium.
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It has to do with the rom + kernel being completely different from stock, and thus a totally different opperating environment.
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i dont use juggernaut, but i dont see how it'd make a difference if youre just restoring your apps+data to your data partition. i've never had any issues doing it going from one device to another, one rom to a different rom, or upgrading/downgrading android os's.

minotauri said:
i dont use juggernaut, but i dont see how it'd make a difference if youre just restoring your apps+data to your data partition. i've never had any issues doing it going from one device to another, one rom to a different rom, or upgrading/downgrading android os's.
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2.3.5 vs 2.3.6... new kernel as well. Guaranteed to cause problems with a TB restore.
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jordanishere said:
2.3.5 vs 2.3.6... new kernel as well. Guaranteed to cause problems with a TB restore.
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I've never had a problem and I've been using to backup since it first came out and used it to transfer across multiple devices starting with the G1 on android 1.0 until now with my my ICS tablet and my 2.3.6 sgs2. The only issue would be apps that specifically would not work for certain OS versions. But I guess ymmv.

Ive restored all my apps+data on jugs without any problem
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Restore apps with data; not system data.. No issues restoring this way when I was on Juggs.
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minotauri said:
I've never had a problem and I've been using to backup since it first came out and used it to transfer across multiple devices starting with the G1 on android 1.0 until now with my my ICS tablet and my 2.3.6 sgs2. The only issue would be apps that specifically would not work for certain OS versions. But I guess ymmv.
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Whitehawx specifically mentioned not doing this on Juggernaut 4.0 if you were coming from 3.7
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I think people are mistaking app data and system data lol. App data can be restored most of the time... But not system data.
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Oh btw, it's a lot easier using mybackup root or pro to restore and backup apps.
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Rom question

I started checking out some roms to flash and saw something that caught my attention. No all, but a cpl roms say "wipe data, dalvik,cache, system, sdext". i am running Energy 1/12/12 sense 3.5 rom with anthrax kernel and dt a2sd. If i wipe my sdext wont all my apps be gone? is this step necessary? do i just need to avoid these roms or is there another way to restore my apps? or woould i have to make sure they are backed up in Tibackup then redownload from market and then restore data after flashing new rom?

You should do that procedure with ANY rom. Yes, your apps will be gone, but that's a good thing, means the rom will run smoothly and not have "leftover" bits from old roms. Use Titanium Backup to backup and restore your apps.

sitlet said:
You should do that procedure with ANY rom. Yes, your apps will be gone, but that's a good thing, means the rom will run smoothly and not have "leftover" bits from old roms. Use Titanium Backup to backup and restore your apps.
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so what about apps iv paid for?

dbenney said:
so what about apps iv paid for?
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You can reinstall those too. Those purchases are linked to your Google account, so when Market signs into your Google account, it will know what apps you've paid for, and you can simply re-download them.

Captain_Throwback said:
You can reinstall those too. Those purchases are linked to your Google account, so when Market signs into your Google account, it will know what apps you've paid for, and you can simply re-download them.
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Capt, sorry for being such a noob, but i thought the there were 2 reasons for partitioning your sd card...1. save internal space and 2. save apps so that you could jsut restore them when you flashed different roms. I am trying to learn as much as i can about this stuff.

dbenney said:
Capt, sorry for being such a noob, but i thought the there were 2 reasons for partitioning your sd card...1. save internal space and 2. save apps so that you could jsut restore them when you flashed different roms. I am trying to learn as much as i can about this stuff.
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Actually there is no 2. The reason to partition is to get more internal space and so your able to manage your storage settings to your liking
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ok... i think i understand this now... jsut to free up internal space, and when i flash a differnet rom, i just reinstall all my apps and use tibackup to restore data. thanks EVO4GNOOB....always a wealth of knowledge. how to i remember all the apps i have so i dont forget any critical ones?

dbenney said:
ok... i think i understand this now... jsut to free up internal space, and when i flash a differnet rom, i just reinstall all my apps and use tibackup to restore data. thanks EVO4GNOOB....always a wealth of knowledge. how to i remember all the apps i have so i dont forget any critical ones?
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Backup your apps with titanium backup so you don't have to remember any apps
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evo4gnoob said:
Backup your apps with titanium backup so you don't have to remember any apps
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^^This^^
And, because I am the king of overkill, I also make sure all my apps are on a list in appbrain so I have a handy list to go to if I have any problems with titanium backup or want to do completely fresh installs for any reason.

Yea Titanium will backup both the app AND it's associated data (i.e. game saves). If you buy the pro version (VERY worth it) you can backup and restore all your apps with one click.
But as everyone else said, your paid apps are always remembered from the market, so you can always just re-download them. This won't save your app's data, but it can be done.

You can now also use Google to backup and restore your apps and when u sign in on a fresh install it reinstalls all your apps from the market but its slower than tibu since the download and install instead of just installing from a compressed backup on your SD
Edit: also mybackuproot will backup.and install apps with one click and its free but last time I used it I couldn't find a way to pick and choose apps like in tibu you can run a batch and check off ones you want to reinstall and not have to install em all
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Titanium Backup - Now you can create flashable Zips

For those of you that use Titanium Backup there was a significant update to the application today. You have always had the ability to backup your apps and do a batch restore of your apps and data or just restore the app with no data.
Well now it gives you an option to create a zip (flashable in recovery) of either your apps or your apps with data. This will make the process of switching ROMs and getting your apps back almost seamless. Just flash the ROM, flash the .zip to get all your apps back, reboot and you are ready to go. Fantastic update.
Information below was found on Phandroid. Peace.
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/07/titanium-backup-for-root-users-gets-new-flashable-zip-backups/

Wow nice

This is actually an awesome feature. Unfortunately, I lost my TiBu license quite awhile ago and moved onto RTB. Hoping RTB eventually implements this as well considering they're big competitors. Or I might just pick up another license if it goes on sale again.
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My favorite app because it saves me so much time!.. I'm my opinion this is the most full featured backup/restore app in the play store

I tried the recovery zip after flashing a ROM last night. It restored all my apps no trouble....but no data. And I did select app+data option. Maybe a fluke. See if it works next time.
Anyone else try it?

I love this feature, this is why I bought pro despite the price because of how well it is made
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I never used this app I just started to use app2zip about a month or so ago. It doesnt backup the data just the apps u select including system apps. Seeing this I'm gonna have to give it a go.
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biglil1 said:
I never used this app I just started to use app2zip about a month or so ago. It doesnt backup the data just the apps u select including system apps. Seeing this I'm gonna have to give it a go.
enjoying sith3, thank u to all
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If you purchase the pro key you will not regret it.. If I was only able to make one purchase in the play Store. this would be the app I would buy

biglil1 said:
I never used this app I just started to use app2zip about a month or so ago. It doesnt backup the data just the apps u select including system apps. Seeing this I'm gonna have to give it a go.
enjoying sith3, thank u to all
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It is supposed to back up data and in a batch restore it will give the options...app only...data only...app and data. And it works fine.
But I tried the new recovery zip feature...chose apps and data and the data didn't restore. I had to do it manually later.

I tried this feature. Some data restored, and on first boot after flashing zip, titanium ran on its own to restore the rest. Couldn't make sure the programs all came out ok because the whole rom went south on me. Not a related issue though.
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Grntrenchman said:
I tried this feature. Some data restored, and on first boot after flashing zip, titanium ran on its own to restore the rest. Couldn't make sure the programs all came out ok because the whole rom went south on me. Not a related issue though.
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I wanted to test it out so I made a zip, and a nandroid. I wiped all my data and tried to restore my apps with my zip. File and everything worked but it took forever for the first boot to complete.. So far I'm finding it quicker to do it from within the app.. But I'll try it out a few more times on different roms to see what results I get
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I just did this as I had to replace my SII and the backup wasn't recognizing any of my apps. Zip file was really quick and I got all my data but I had to install them individually after flashing. Was there a quicker way?
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RedLead550 said:
I just did this as I had to replace my SII and the backup wasn't recognizing any of my apps. Zip file was really quick and I got all my data but I had to install them individually after flashing. Was there a quicker way?
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Back up the apps without app data.
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sirdowski said:
Back up the apps without app data.
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Get App2zip from the market it backs up data apps and system apps. Flash it in cwm recovery. Or look up clockwork combiner its nice it combines multiple zips into one zip that you flash in recovery saving you time because everything you need is all in one zip.
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rymanh said:
I wanted to test it out so I made a zip, and a nandroid. I wiped all my data and tried to restore my apps with my zip. File and everything worked but it took forever for the first boot to complete.. So far I'm finding it quicker to do it from within the app.. But I'll try it out a few more times on different roms to see what results I get
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Hi could you please tell me how long did it take in the first boot ? coz i am having the same problem

Sameh mohamed said:
Hi could you please tell me how long did it take in the first boot ? coz i am having the same problem
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It took like 12 minutes
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Great feature. I have pro licenses for RTB and TB since they were on discount. I go between the two since each has features that I like in particular. Some people like an all-in-one solution but I'm fine with them both.

[Q] How to backup app + data?

I'm currently using an older FrostyJB rom and would like to update to the latest version. The problem is that I've spent alot of time tweaking the settings, downloading apps, and tweaking app settings to my liking.
Is there a way I can save all the apps, app settings, and data? That way after I update to the latest rom version, I can just load it up and won't have to fiddle with downloading all the apps and setting them up again.

Nandroid backup!
From cwm (rom manager)or (goo manager) from the playstore! It does a whole backup of all you're stuff.
Also titanium backup's you're apps n stuff. Either or but if u want the whole thing I suggest a NANDROID BACKUP!!!
U BETTER AXXEEEEE SOMEONE ABOUT IT! dont forget it
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Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
T-Mobile SGS III

mt3g said:
Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
T-Mobile SGS III
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All of what he said.

Also it might be safe to assume you can just flash over on top of the old version, just don't report bugs if you have some, if things start acting weird and you get force closes, then wipe and start over. Longest run on ever.
T-Mobile SGS III

mt3g said:
Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
T-Mobile SGS III
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Thanks, that worked flawlessly. :victory:

k3vn said:
Thanks, that worked flawlessly. :victory:
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Yeah um gonna try that too thanks for sharing.

Yep. Titanium backup is what you need.

Me I use app2zip in order to backup my apps and what i like about it is that it makes a zip that you can flash right after you flash a rom.
It says that if your data is not erase it will restore it but it doesn't work all the time for me so I use a different app to backup apps and phone data to restore them.
More steps than TB but free
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My backup will restore apps and data and easier to use than titanium.
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backups
depends on the backup i'm doing on which one i prefer:
titanium backup if i want to backup the app and the data
superbox if i want just the .apk backed up for later install

The_F_Word said:
Nandroid backup!
From cwm (rom manager)or (goo manager) from the playstore! It does a whole backup of all you're stuff.
Also titanium backup's you're apps n stuff. Either or but if u want the whole thing I suggest a NANDROID BACKUP!!!
U BETTER AXXEEEEE SOMEONE ABOUT IT! dont forget it
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I don't think he's looking to restore a full backup such as a nandroid. He's wanting to flash a newer version of a rom and make sure all his settings are the same afterwards. I'm sure he wants to have all his messages and bookmarks and apps and widgets to all be there afterward.
Honestly, I don't think there is such an app as I would have found it by now. I hate flashing rom updates every other day and having to restore my messages (and finding out that the backup is from a week ago so I've lost a bunch), downloading my apps and having to reset the settings (usually forgetting an app or 2 every time), not having my bookmarks anymore, etc.
I know you can restore a lot of this stuff from TB, as I usually do, but I always had worries about restoring things from one build onto another for compatibility reasons and to avoid FC's and such. I don't really think there is a foolproof way of doing what he wants. It's a little safer to do this by hand but inevitably you will lose or forget some things along the way.

Using TB I encountered many problems after a frosty upgrade awhile back. Something about the file system? Has anyone encountered this, as I would also like to upgrade from an old nandroid frosty bk
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dito33 said:
My backup will restore apps and data and easier to use than titanium.
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I agree. I prefer this over TB when it comes to backups but that's my personal preference.
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Toz35 said:
Using TB I encountered many problems after a frosty upgrade awhile back. Something about the file system? Has anyone encountered this, as I would also like to upgrade from an old nandroid frosty bk
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Did you try to restore system data? If so, then that's the problem. Never do that for any reason (when updating the rom).

What I usually do is restore apps like evernote with data basically apps that have info on it. While others ones like Pandora without data in which I could start from Scratch without losing anything. If you want to keep actual settings really I think the only way to do it is if your upgrading the same rom to a different version and rom has to support it.
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No to Titanium Backup

I've learned that restoring apps using TB may cause problems.
Is there another way to get the saved files for apps. Like copying it to have a backup. Where can i find such files?
Thanks in advance.
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erljayp said:
I've learned that restoring apps using TB may cause problems.
Is there another way to get the saved files for apps. Like copying it to have a backup. Where can i find such files?
Thanks in advance.
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Restoring apps causes problems mostly if you try to install JB-only apps onto ICS or ICS-only apps onto GB.
Certain Play Store apps have multiple versions, for example one for ICS only, one for GB only etc.
Problems occur if the apps installation fails, one possibility is above, but there are others aswell.

Someguyfromhell said:
Restoring apps causes problems mostly if you try to install JB-only apps onto ICS or ICS-only apps onto GB.
Certain Play Store apps have multiple versions, for example one for ICS only, one for GB only etc.
Problems occur if the apps installation fails, one possibility is above, but there are others aswell.
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Thanks for the answer.
So, is it safer to download the app from play store, to get the right version as you said, and then restore the data using TB
Or will it change the apps version.
I often change rom so app data is always deleted.
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erljayp said:
I've learned that restoring apps using TB may cause problems.
Is there another way to get the saved files for apps. Like copying it to have a backup. Where can i find such files?
Thanks in advance.
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use this app to backup/restore... very good and always works...

erljayp said:
Thanks for the answer.
So, is it safer to download the app from play store, to get the right version as you said, and then restore the data using TB
Or will it change the apps version.
I often change rom so app data is always deleted.
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Download the app from Google Play and restore the data only. It works fine. I have used this method many times when switching from CM10.1 to stock ROM and vice versa.
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erljayp said:
I've learned that restoring apps using TB may cause problems.
Is there another way to get the saved files for apps. Like copying it to have a backup. Where can i find such files?
Thanks in advance.
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What my friend on the post above me said it's always the safer, but something I always use and never failed (perfect recover of everything, apk and data) is Mybackup ROOT, I got horrified when tried to use titanium once, and instantly came back to mybackup, for me it's the best, you do backup everything.

cosmyndemeter said:
use this app to backup/restore... very good and always works...
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Thanks but it doesn't backup the data. I mean, only the apk's so the progress in games are wiped out.
Still. Thanks.
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popthosegaskets said:
Download the app from Google Play and restore the data only. It works fine. I have used this method many times when switching from CM10.1 to stock ROM and vice versa.
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Will try this one.
I switch between ICS and JB roms. Haven't tried GB yet. XD
I think this is really the safest one.
Thank you.
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Phenomzye said:
What my friend on the post above me said it's always the safer, but something I always use and never failed (perfect recover of everything, apk and data) is Mybackup ROOT, I got horrified when tried to use titanium once, and instantly came back to mybackup, for me it's the best, you do backup everything.
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Sounds like a great app.
I will also try this one.
Or maybe combine concepts with the previous post. Just to make things even safer.
Thank you too.
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erljayp said:
Will try this one.
I switch between ICS and JB roms. Haven't tried GB yet. XD
I think this is really the safest one.
Thank you.
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This method is OK since you restore the data without touching the main app, so it doesn't matter which ROM you install the app on.
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