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[Q] Why does Titanium Backup cause problems for new roms?

I've noticed that some ROMS do not suggest restoring apps with data when using titanium backup. Can someone please explain to me why this is so? and for an app that the majority of root users have, why hasn't there been any adjustments on either end to bridge the gap of incompatability?
I just think it sucks that titanium backup is supposed to be able to restore your apps onto a new rom like you never deleted them, but it messes things up when you try

I think restoring apps is fine, its the data that gets u. I dont do sny of thst, i always clean install then reinstall my apps, its not like it takes very long and i love the fact that i never have any issues at all with roms
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KrisPeezy said:
I've noticed that some ROMS do not suggest restoring apps with data when using titanium backup. Can someone please explain to me why this is so? and for an app that the majority of root users have, why hasn't there been any adjustments on either end to bridge the gap of incompatability?
I just think it sucks that titanium backup is supposed to be able to restore your apps onto a new rom like you never deleted them, but it messes things up when you try
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Different roms handle data uniquely..... say you have all your apps on a stock incredible Rom if you flash a custom incredible Rom restoring data shouldn't be a problem.....but when you flash a ported Rom like an evo or z based Rom that's where you get in trouble because all of your data was based off of an incredible Rom.
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Well maybe just stick to incredible framework roms and u wont have to deal with that prob
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You generally shouldn't migrate data between different ROMs...if you're on Cyanogenmod 7 and you update to a newer build you should be fine, BUT if you go to a different ROM you should only restore the app...certain apps you can get away with restoring the data too, but DO NOT migrate system data.

[Q] titanium backup - dumb question

I have never used Titanium Backup before for actual backups of apps. I have used it only to wipe cache data for gmail when the system was dumb and said none was in use.
So here's my dumb question: Titanium backup can backup apps prior to a full factory reset, including dalvik cache, and then restore those apps and their settings after a new ROM is installed, including having the market be aware that said apps are installed (for updating purposes and such)?
Are there any special settings or hangups to be aware of?

[email protected] question but if you have problems click menu then preferences or settings, forgot which, but scroll down to the bottom it'll say if you're haviing problems etc.. click or touch that and click indirect android installer or whatever and when you go to restore apps click restore then app only and then once you've installed the app then go back to the app in titanium back up and click restore then data only..
I had a problem with TB only on ics where I had to do this
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dumb Q pt 2
I am going from an EI22 ROM to an FC09 ROM (people's rom v2). So far I've only backed up user apps, should (or could) I use the 'backup system and user apps' or just stick with user apps?

tigerknight said:
I am going from an EI22 ROM to an FC09 ROM (people's rom v2). So far I've only backed up user apps, should (or could) I use the 'backup system and user apps' or just stick with user apps?
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only back up user if you restore system it tends to cause issues

tazfanatic said:
only back up user if you restore system it tends to cause issues
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Going to different roms yes only restore apps but if your just reflashing the same rom the backup was made from then you can restore system

jbadboy2007 said:
Going to different roms yes only restore apps but if your just reflashing the same rom the backup was made from then you can restore system
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True but not what he is doing

U can backup apps and data. And then restore them on ur next rom. But if u change partition formats such as from bml to mtd, u have to make sure u do not restore system apps. Other wise u r ok
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LORDFIRE00 said:
U can backup apps and data. And then restore them on ur next rom. But if u change partition formats such as from bml to mtd, u have to make sure u do not restore system apps. Other wise u r ok
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It is never a good idea to restore system stuff but it does not matter MTD or BML...it is the same apps just on a different partition...thing FAT32 and NTFS...programs don't care which you use.
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Hope this helps..what I do is use "App Monster PRO". As you download apps....it back them up automatically. But it has to be the "pro" version. The free one s*cks. Go to 4shared.com in the search bar enter " app monster apk". Then download the 2.0 version. Good luck.
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Restoring apps from GB to ICS

How risky is it to restore apps backed up in TiBu on GB to a new ICS install? I imagine some apps would install differently depending on whether your ROM is GB or ICS.
Another question, are apk's from Play Store downloads saved to your phone? I guess instead of the TiBu route I could pull the apk's off my phone and then batch install with Android Injector.
Thanks.

Can't hurt to try, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work. Apps are stored as apks in /data/app, but if you just restore those you won't have the app data.
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ericmtnbkr said:
How risky is it to restore apps backed up in TiBu on GB to a new ICS install? I imagine some apps would install differently depending on whether your ROM is GB or ICS.
Another question, are apk's from Play Store downloads saved to your phone? I guess instead of the TiBu route I could pull the apk's off my phone and then batch install with Android Injector.
Thanks.
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Personally I would always reccomend a full wipe and not restoring aps even if its ics to ics.
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jman42028 said:
Personally I would always reccomend a full wipe and not restoring aps even if its ics to ics.
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Well, of course do a full wipe; as for restoring apps, it won't hurt if it ends up not working, just reinstall it fresh, and it saves time if it does work.

You can restore your apps, but can't restore data. However, I've noticed some apps don't like to be re-installed going back to GB. Youtube is one for sure.

I do it all the time with no problem.
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peledeity said:
I do it all the time with no problem.
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Seconded

[Q] How to backup app + data?

I'm currently using an older FrostyJB rom and would like to update to the latest version. The problem is that I've spent alot of time tweaking the settings, downloading apps, and tweaking app settings to my liking.
Is there a way I can save all the apps, app settings, and data? That way after I update to the latest rom version, I can just load it up and won't have to fiddle with downloading all the apps and setting them up again.

Nandroid backup!
From cwm (rom manager)or (goo manager) from the playstore! It does a whole backup of all you're stuff.
Also titanium backup's you're apps n stuff. Either or but if u want the whole thing I suggest a NANDROID BACKUP!!!
U BETTER AXXEEEEE SOMEONE ABOUT IT! dont forget it
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Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
T-Mobile SGS III

mt3g said:
Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
T-Mobile SGS III
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^^
All of what he said.

Also it might be safe to assume you can just flash over on top of the old version, just don't report bugs if you have some, if things start acting weird and you get force closes, then wipe and start over. Longest run on ever.
T-Mobile SGS III

mt3g said:
Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
T-Mobile SGS III
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Thanks, that worked flawlessly. :victory:

k3vn said:
Thanks, that worked flawlessly. :victory:
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Yeah um gonna try that too thanks for sharing.

Yep. Titanium backup is what you need.

Me I use app2zip in order to backup my apps and what i like about it is that it makes a zip that you can flash right after you flash a rom.
It says that if your data is not erase it will restore it but it doesn't work all the time for me so I use a different app to backup apps and phone data to restore them.
More steps than TB but free
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My backup will restore apps and data and easier to use than titanium.
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backups
depends on the backup i'm doing on which one i prefer:
titanium backup if i want to backup the app and the data
superbox if i want just the .apk backed up for later install

The_F_Word said:
Nandroid backup!
From cwm (rom manager)or (goo manager) from the playstore! It does a whole backup of all you're stuff.
Also titanium backup's you're apps n stuff. Either or but if u want the whole thing I suggest a NANDROID BACKUP!!!
U BETTER AXXEEEEE SOMEONE ABOUT IT! dont forget it
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I don't think he's looking to restore a full backup such as a nandroid. He's wanting to flash a newer version of a rom and make sure all his settings are the same afterwards. I'm sure he wants to have all his messages and bookmarks and apps and widgets to all be there afterward.
Honestly, I don't think there is such an app as I would have found it by now. I hate flashing rom updates every other day and having to restore my messages (and finding out that the backup is from a week ago so I've lost a bunch), downloading my apps and having to reset the settings (usually forgetting an app or 2 every time), not having my bookmarks anymore, etc.
I know you can restore a lot of this stuff from TB, as I usually do, but I always had worries about restoring things from one build onto another for compatibility reasons and to avoid FC's and such. I don't really think there is a foolproof way of doing what he wants. It's a little safer to do this by hand but inevitably you will lose or forget some things along the way.

Using TB I encountered many problems after a frosty upgrade awhile back. Something about the file system? Has anyone encountered this, as I would also like to upgrade from an old nandroid frosty bk
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dito33 said:
My backup will restore apps and data and easier to use than titanium.
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I agree. I prefer this over TB when it comes to backups but that's my personal preference.
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Toz35 said:
Using TB I encountered many problems after a frosty upgrade awhile back. Something about the file system? Has anyone encountered this, as I would also like to upgrade from an old nandroid frosty bk
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Did you try to restore system data? If so, then that's the problem. Never do that for any reason (when updating the rom).

What I usually do is restore apps like evernote with data basically apps that have info on it. While others ones like Pandora without data in which I could start from Scratch without losing anything. If you want to keep actual settings really I think the only way to do it is if your upgrading the same rom to a different version and rom has to support it.
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[Q] Flashing different ROMS SGH-T989

When flashing between ROM's and restoring data i'm having trouble. I just wanted to know if the data from a previous ROM is compatible with the new ROM. I'm doing a full wipe ever time and using TWRP. I tried flashing from slimbean to PACMAN but I always get stuck on the boot in PACMAN when I try to restore data from slim.
Should i be doing a full wipe and restoring apps via Titanium instead?
Thanks

yea restore your apps with tb. from my understanding its never good to restore data

smartguy044 said:
yea restore your apps with tb. from my understanding its never good to restore data
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I've never had a problem restoring data when upgrading the ROM (ie slimbean from 7 to 7.5 most recently). I read somewhere that this was a common practice and have been doing it for a while now with no problems. My issue only surfaced when switching between ROMS.

yea same rom is fine different roms is not

Cbtriplec said:
I've never had a problem restoring data when upgrading the ROM (ie slimbean from 7 to 7.5 most recently). I read somewhere that this was a common practice and have been doing it for a while now with no problems. My issue only surfaced when switching between ROMS.
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U cannot restore system data to different Roms, u can restore apps, apps only with no data, diff Roms have diff signatures, if u try to restore data from one to the other ur going to end up with a soft brick, updating a ROM and restoring is OK because it has the same base files, those same base files are not compatible with a diff ROM, now if its the same base rom like cm or PAC of something like that its doable, still not wise but doable, but seems like u made up t mind already so if anything happens u have been warned lol
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soupysoup said:
U cannot restore system data to different Roms, u can restore apps, apps only with no data, diff Roms have diff signatures, if u try to restore data from one to the other ur going to end up with a soft brick, updating a ROM and restoring is OK because it has the same base files, those same base files are not compatible with a diff ROM, now if its the same base rom like cm or PAC of something like that its doable, still not wise but doable, but seems like u made up t mind already so if anything happens u have been warned lol
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Ahh... got it. Thanks for the explanation (and warning).

Cbtriplec said:
Ahh... got it. Thanks for the explanation (and warning).
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I restore app data all the time....no matter what rom I switch too. Never had an issue. I do NOT restore system app data....just stuff like launcher, bank app, anything I had to set up a lot of settings...like smart keyboard, handcent. I'd say I have about 15 to 20 apps I restore data too.....and have never had a problem. Doesn't matter what rom I flashed.
Just saying!
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Oh....I use titanium backup. And yes...I restore app data for my select apps between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 roms and vice versa too. Again....never an issue.
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You restore using TB ? Or are you able to do this via Twrp?
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Cbtriplec said:
You restore using TB ? Or are you able to do this via Twrp?
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I use tb. After I'm all flashed, debloated the way I like it and a few other things done, I do 2 batch restores. One for apps with data....and one for the other apps with apps only selected...no data. Never ever had an issue. Maybe the odd app doesn't work right, but nothing I have on my phone lately. Everything works fine. The only thing I need to usually fix are ringtones/notification sounds of anything I restored with data...cause it doesn't restore the previous sounds for some reason. (Alarm clock, handcent, Voxer....for examples)
I think the NEVER restore app data started when our jb roms were new and all ports....was a precaution devs suggested to eliminate that as a reason for problems. Now days I think its fine to restore app data. Again....not system app data tho!
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kj2112 said:
I restore app data all the time....no matter what rom I switch too. Never had an issue. I do NOT restore system app data....just stuff like launcher, bank app, anything I had to set up a lot of settings...like smart keyboard, handcent. I'd say I have about 15 to 20 apps I restore data too.....and have never had a problem. Doesn't matter what rom I flashed.
Just saying!
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Oh....I use titanium backup. And yes...I restore app data for my select apps between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 roms and vice versa too. Again....never an issue.
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Yes u are right, I misworded myself, as long as its not a system app is what I should've said, user app data will not have any adverse effects since the data is only related to the app and not the ROM itself, sorry for the misunderstanding
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