[Q] Why does Titanium Backup cause problems for new roms? - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've noticed that some ROMS do not suggest restoring apps with data when using titanium backup. Can someone please explain to me why this is so? and for an app that the majority of root users have, why hasn't there been any adjustments on either end to bridge the gap of incompatability?
I just think it sucks that titanium backup is supposed to be able to restore your apps onto a new rom like you never deleted them, but it messes things up when you try

I think restoring apps is fine, its the data that gets u. I dont do sny of thst, i always clean install then reinstall my apps, its not like it takes very long and i love the fact that i never have any issues at all with roms
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KrisPeezy said:
I've noticed that some ROMS do not suggest restoring apps with data when using titanium backup. Can someone please explain to me why this is so? and for an app that the majority of root users have, why hasn't there been any adjustments on either end to bridge the gap of incompatability?
I just think it sucks that titanium backup is supposed to be able to restore your apps onto a new rom like you never deleted them, but it messes things up when you try
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Different roms handle data uniquely..... say you have all your apps on a stock incredible Rom if you flash a custom incredible Rom restoring data shouldn't be a problem.....but when you flash a ported Rom like an evo or z based Rom that's where you get in trouble because all of your data was based off of an incredible Rom.
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Well maybe just stick to incredible framework roms and u wont have to deal with that prob
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You generally shouldn't migrate data between different ROMs...if you're on Cyanogenmod 7 and you update to a newer build you should be fine, BUT if you go to a different ROM you should only restore the app...certain apps you can get away with restoring the data too, but DO NOT migrate system data.

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Help backing Apps up??

Hiya I need help im rooted already I just need to ask when im backing my Apps with titanium back up do I back all system Apps aswell? Im still on standard rom with all the blur stuff.
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If you plan to stay on same ROM. If not you don't need to a it will cause conflict
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I used Titanium Backup before I switched to CM7 (note, CM7 had no market for me at first, I had to install it manually from here[url].)
Currently restoring all apps and system data. I backed up everything. Hope it works
I've used several different roms since I got my defy last February and I'm so glad I have Titanium Backup. I would recommend it to anyone that is looking for a backup solution on their android phone.
Thanks for the replys im going to put cm rom on but my question was in titanium app do I need to back up all the system Apps and my game Apps before I put c.m rom on. I would of thought that I wouldn't need all the motorola system when im putting cm on.
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Backup question w/ Titanium

What is the recommended batch operation for restoring apps using Titanium backup?
If i backup and restore system data + user apps after flashing ROMs that add files to this list (such as T-mobile wifi calling) will I run into problems?
Should I solely backup and restore user apps, and leave system apps alone?
Thanks. Im using a Telus SG2x w/ Jug 4.1 + Bullet
i would recommend only restoring user apps... and system apps one at a time if needed.
L_B said:
What is the recommended batch operation for restoring apps using Titanium backup?
If i backup and restore system data + user apps after flashing ROMs that add files to this list (such as T-mobile wifi calling) will I run into problems?
Should I solely backup and restore user apps, and leave system apps alone?
Thanks. Im using a Telus SG2x w/ Jug 4.1 + Bullet
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Don't restore apps or data.. download them fresh from the market or you will have issues with Juggernaut
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Never restore system data. You can always restore apps plus data. Why you can't on juggarnaut is a problem with that ROM not titanium.
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xsteven77x said:
Never restore system data. You can always restore apps plus data. Why you can't on juggarnaut is a problem with that ROM not titanium.
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It has to do with the rom + kernel being completely different from stock, and thus a totally different opperating environment.
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i dont use juggernaut, but i dont see how it'd make a difference if youre just restoring your apps+data to your data partition. i've never had any issues doing it going from one device to another, one rom to a different rom, or upgrading/downgrading android os's.
minotauri said:
i dont use juggernaut, but i dont see how it'd make a difference if youre just restoring your apps+data to your data partition. i've never had any issues doing it going from one device to another, one rom to a different rom, or upgrading/downgrading android os's.
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2.3.5 vs 2.3.6... new kernel as well. Guaranteed to cause problems with a TB restore.
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jordanishere said:
2.3.5 vs 2.3.6... new kernel as well. Guaranteed to cause problems with a TB restore.
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I've never had a problem and I've been using to backup since it first came out and used it to transfer across multiple devices starting with the G1 on android 1.0 until now with my my ICS tablet and my 2.3.6 sgs2. The only issue would be apps that specifically would not work for certain OS versions. But I guess ymmv.
Ive restored all my apps+data on jugs without any problem
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Restore apps with data; not system data.. No issues restoring this way when I was on Juggs.
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minotauri said:
I've never had a problem and I've been using to backup since it first came out and used it to transfer across multiple devices starting with the G1 on android 1.0 until now with my my ICS tablet and my 2.3.6 sgs2. The only issue would be apps that specifically would not work for certain OS versions. But I guess ymmv.
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Whitehawx specifically mentioned not doing this on Juggernaut 4.0 if you were coming from 3.7
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I think people are mistaking app data and system data lol. App data can be restored most of the time... But not system data.
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Oh btw, it's a lot easier using mybackup root or pro to restore and backup apps.
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flashing new rom W/O losing shortcuts

is there a way to flash rom's but still have all the apps and screen icons in the same place? I like flashing but hate setting up all the apps and screens to the way i like it..
No your going to lose your apps and placement. If you use Titanium Backup or my backup root you can at least restore your apps. I would not recommend restoring data though it usually causes issues. I just like a fresh install so that I do not have to worry about issues anyway.
bigp750 said:
is there a way to flash rom's but still have all the apps and screen icons in the same place? I like flashing but hate setting up all the apps and screens to the way i like it..
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If you're going between GB and ICS then you do want to do a fresh install of everything. Same if you're going from a custom ROM to a different ROM. Just about the only time it's really safe to keep the apps and settings is when you're updating to a newer version of the ROM you have. Titanium Backup is what you want to use to back-up your apps and system settings.
Some ROM's have a No-Data version you can flash also. Sfhub's usually do. The No-Data version will keep the apps and everything how they were.
bigp750 said:
is there a way to flash rom's but still have all the apps and screen icons in the same place? I like flashing but hate setting up all the apps and screens to the way i like it..
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Yes there is. Make a nandroid of your rom setup the way you like it. Then, whenever you want to switch to a new rom, flash that rom, boot, go back into recovery, then go to restore, advanced restore, advanced restore of data from nandroid. I do this all the time and it works very well. This will only work when going from gb rom to gb rom or ics to ics rom though. Going from gb to ics data restore causes issues.
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j_shelton1988 said:
Yes there is. Make a nandroid of your rom setup the way you like it. Then, whenever you want to switch to a new rom, flash that rom, boot, go back into recovery, then go to restore, advanced restore, advanced restore of data from nandroid. I do this all the time and it works very well. This will only work when going from gb rom to gb rom or ics to ics rom though. Going from gb to ics data restore causes issues.
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You can still run into problems with restoring that way. You really do want to do a fresh install most of the time. It's kind of a crap shoot as to whether or not it will get buggy from restoring apps like that.
If you're using a custom launcher like Nova or ADW, you can back it up with titanium backup then restore it with data once you've got your new ROM installed and it will still have your screens set up. You'll still need to restore/redownload all your apps though.
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Most custom launchers have a backup/restore preferences setting also. Go launcher saves to sd so it doesn't delete its settings between flashing.
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tdunham said:
Most custom launchers have a backup/restore preferences setting also. Go launcher saves to sd so it doesn't delete its settings between flashing.
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On gingerbread I always used the No Data format all between roms. It was usually from stock to Calks though and never had any issues. But these days going from ICS to ICS i just use Titanium Backup and depending on what launcher I am using just lose widgets and maybe 5 minutes total time out my day.

Flashing Inquiry

Hey all, long time no talk.
I noticed everytime a new ROM comes out you guys are always flashing. Is there an easy way to flash without having to "re-install" everything and keeping your screens the way they were previously? Or there is no simple solution?
Mike
Generally not really. If its a minor update for a current Rom u don't always have to erase everything but generally u will have to start from scratch. That's always the best bet for squashing bugs ect
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mrw5641 said:
Hey all, long time no talk.
I noticed everytime a new ROM comes out you guys are always flashing. Is there an easy way to flash without having to "re-install" everything and keeping your screens the way they were previously? Or there is no simple solution?
Mike
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You can always use titanium backup to reinstall apps, I'd definitely recommend dropping a few bucks on the paid version for no click restores. If it's an update to a rom I'm already running, I usually just wipe cache and dalvik before flashing, but you should always wipe before flashing a different rom.
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Excellent that is what I had figured. I just had noticed some guys flashing everytime a new rom comes out, that has to be a pain in the a**. But I have been using Astro to back up everything.
Thanks guys
mrw5641 said:
Excellent that is what I had figured. I just had noticed some guys flashing everytime a new rom comes out, that has to be a pain in the a**. But I have been using Astro to back up everything.
Thanks guys
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Titanium is a great ap. I have noticed that restoring aps with it can cause some issues and slowdowns. I always used titanium but now I prefer a fresh install. When u log into your gmail account u can set it to automatically restore your previous aps also when you look at the "my aps" section you can slide to the right and look at all aps you had ever downloaded.
Good luck, have fun and follow the roms specific instructions!
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jman42028 said:
Titanium is a great ap. I have noticed that restoring aps with it can cause some issues and slowdowns. I always used titanium but now I prefer a fresh install. When u log into your gmail account u can set it to automatically restore your previous aps also when you look at the "my aps" section you can slide to the right and look at all aps you had ever downloaded.
Good luck, have fun and follow the roms specific instructions!
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I'm with you. I used TiBu a couple of times, but had random crashes and stuff.
I do the full wipe now, every time. Stability is worth the trade-off of reinstalling everything
Titanium can be buggy at times but I use the heck out if it... I make a backup of xyz rom and rename it, then switch roms. Set everything up (if it's new to me) and backup/rename. For example I have titanium backupUKB, titanium backupCM9 and titanium backupSRZ all on my SD card...
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I have been using GO Backup instead of Titanium lately and it is pretty good. You can restore all your backed up apps with one click; it only backs up user apps. It also can backup your messages and wifi access points if you backup that kind of stuff, and most of all it's free. I definitely recomend you try it out.
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juzz86 said:
I'm with you. I used TiBu a couple of times, but had random crashes and stuff.
I do the full wipe now, every time. Stability is worth the trade-off of reinstalling everything
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I only restore the user apps using Titanium Backup. I believe that should technically not cause any problems. Well I am glad it didn't the few times I did use it, so far.

Newbie - how do I keep apps and configuration in between flashing roms

I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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nandroid backup will not keep the game data. use titanium backup that's the easiest way
nitropower said:
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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Titanium backup will do the trick but sometimes when restoring old data I've had some issues with lots of force closes and some other unexplainable strange things going on. It's best to start fresh on a new rom.
Titanium backup is your answer
If you back up apps and data from your personally installed apps, restoring should not cause any problems. If you try to backup and restore system apps and data across different roms (ie tw and aosp), you're likely to experience some problems.
When it comes to system data, it can be hit or miss. Generally the only thing that will likely break is contacts, as each provider (samsung, htc) puts their own spin on it, and it tends to not be compatible. but if you use google to store your contacts, you should be golden. After some time you'll know which parts are compatible across all roms (within the same version family).
So, backup everything you want to keep. And make a full nandroid.
Install your new rom.
Restore your personal apps and data (like angry birds)
Make sure everything is golden.
Make a nandroid
One by one, restore any system data you want (like accounts, wifi access points, mms).
After each one, go through a reboot cycle, make sure everything works.
Nandroid and restore next system data
This way you can easily back out of a restore that breaks something without having to start over again. And you will get a feel for what's restorable and what isnt.
Beware changing back to 4.1 from 4.2. There are threads on this worth reading.
And, yes, nandroid will restore everything just like you had it, assuming you choose to backup -everything- (which is advisable).
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nitropower said:
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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Titanium backup works like charm..but u can restore from nandroid backup too..just install nandroid manager app from play store and restore all ur data including call logs, sms n everything!!
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shakeyfingers said:
nandroid backup will not keep the game data. use titanium backup that's the easiest way
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Through philz CWM I'm currently having 3 roms in my back up. After installing a new rom, I just restore data and all my games data comes back without any problem.
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Titanium is the best thing since sliced bread. Although some apps won't give you notifications if you don't clean install them
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Titanium back, my backup pro
these 2 apps have helped me alot while trying out different roms....sometimes when titanium backup fails i use my backup pro

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