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Titanium Backup Pro Questions.....

I have been flashing roms & kernels for the past few years so I don't think I am a "noob". I am in no means a "know it all" either. I have been using Titanium Backup Pro to backup everything before flashing roms. It's great, but I still end up taking 20 minutes to restore everything back to normal. I have seen other posts about the correct way to backup/restore, but I never get a straight answer on the easiest/correct way. Do I let the market redownload my apps or do I let Titanium? Restore user data, system data? I hear about others restoring everything back to normal like email, texts, passwords etc. Please help.... Thanks
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Restoring user downloaded apps is fine, but restoring system data always monkeys everything up.
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I've always restored user apps through titanium, but as the guy above me stated hold off on the data. If need be, the apps where you really need the data do them one by one so you know which one fudges up your system, if any do.
Once I know I'm going to switch roms, I always back all user apps up, then after I load the rom I want, I go ahead and run titanium before the market loads anything. It just takes to long for the market to redownload everything, in most instances.
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Thanks guys!
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Yea titanium way faster than market attempting to re download plus it always misses some and your days gets congested from 50+ apps trying all install at once
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Do you run the batch operation?
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If you want.. you can look into Mybackup root/pro. I always use that to backup my data and apps. It's very straight forward. You can choose DATA and backup sms, mms, android home, settings, playlists etc... then use APP to backup APPS, or APPS +DATA. check it out.. but remember after each backup or restore, restart for best results.

mrbmg said:
I've always restored user apps through titanium, but as the guy above me stated hold off on the data. If need be, the apps where you really need the data do them one by one so you know which one fudges up your system, if any do.
Once I know I'm going to switch roms, I always back all user apps up, then after I load the rom I want, I go ahead and run titanium before the market loads anything. It just takes to long for the market to redownload everything, in most instances.
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How do you get ti backup on your phone after a new rom is installed, but without accessing the market? most roms dont come with it preinstalled.
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Most the time I go to the market and dl it... There were a few devs that did have it in the rom when I had my g2.
Just read that you posted without going to the market. When you buy the pro, its always for dl in the market, just the serial though. So you have to redownload the free version through the market. Don't think there is another way, that I know of.
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I will add, that mybackup is pretty cool. I'm not even rooted with a mytouch4gslide and you can still backup everything. With titanium, you have to be rooted.
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mrbmg said:
I will add, that mybackup is pretty cool. I'm not even rooted with a mytouch4gslide and you can still backup everything. With titanium, you have to be rooted.
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While I am a large fan of Titanium, I would have to think that not being rooted would restrict it's functionality quite a bit. Anyone care to comment?

jordanishere said:
How do you get ti backup on your phone after a new rom is installed, but without accessing the market? most roms dont come with it preinstalled.
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There is an option in Titanium Backup to create a Flashable Zip that you can install within Recovery. In Titanium Backup, Press MENU, then press MORE and it'll be on that list.

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There is an option in Titanium Backup to create a Flashable Zip that you can install within Recovery. In Titanium Backup, Press MENU, then press MORE and it'll be on that list.
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Huh very interesting. thanks for the tip.
Im guessing we should choose the edify scripting method. would you apply the .zip in the same manner as flashing a rom? via the "install zip from sd card" option?
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Different strokes...
Like I said in the OP, it seems that everyone has their own way of doing things on TB. Thanks for all of the great responses, keep them coming.....

jordanishere said:
Huh very interesting. thanks for the tip.
Im guessing we should choose the edify scripting method. would you apply the .zip in the same manner as flashing a rom? via the "install zip from sd card" option?
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yes choose edify, and apply as you would a rom.
good luck.

minotauri said:
yes choose edify, and apply as you would a rom.
good luck.
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Sweet. from now on i can be stingier with my data usage.
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This is the best way I restore after a wipe:
1. TI Pro for batch USER apps and data only -- do not use batch on system files
2. TI Pro for these system files: bookmarks, user dictionary, and wi-fi access points, only. I only use the "DATA Only" option in Ti Pro for these files.
3. I use from market, Call logs Backup & Restore to get my call logs back.
4. I always do a nandroid before flashing a new rom, and then use AppExtractor (free from market) to go to my nandroid to restore my SMS and MMSs. This works better than using TI Pro for sms and mms restore.
It sounds more complicated than it is. It actually is quite simple. I would simply stay away from using Ti Pro for restoring any system files if you can.

Does anyone sync with drop box after backing up through TB ? I attempted this and got about 80% before it says it fails. Any ideas?
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cmoRe-_- said:
Does anyone sync with drop box after backing up through TB ? I attempted this and got about 80% before it says it fails. Any ideas?
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Ehh... Never attempted due to my throttled data plan.
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Restoring apps from GB to ICS

How risky is it to restore apps backed up in TiBu on GB to a new ICS install? I imagine some apps would install differently depending on whether your ROM is GB or ICS.
Another question, are apk's from Play Store downloads saved to your phone? I guess instead of the TiBu route I could pull the apk's off my phone and then batch install with Android Injector.
Thanks.

Can't hurt to try, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work. Apps are stored as apks in /data/app, but if you just restore those you won't have the app data.
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ericmtnbkr said:
How risky is it to restore apps backed up in TiBu on GB to a new ICS install? I imagine some apps would install differently depending on whether your ROM is GB or ICS.
Another question, are apk's from Play Store downloads saved to your phone? I guess instead of the TiBu route I could pull the apk's off my phone and then batch install with Android Injector.
Thanks.
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Personally I would always reccomend a full wipe and not restoring aps even if its ics to ics.
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jman42028 said:
Personally I would always reccomend a full wipe and not restoring aps even if its ics to ics.
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Well, of course do a full wipe; as for restoring apps, it won't hurt if it ends up not working, just reinstall it fresh, and it saves time if it does work.

You can restore your apps, but can't restore data. However, I've noticed some apps don't like to be re-installed going back to GB. Youtube is one for sure.

I do it all the time with no problem.
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peledeity said:
I do it all the time with no problem.
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Seconded

Titanium Backup - Now you can create flashable Zips

For those of you that use Titanium Backup there was a significant update to the application today. You have always had the ability to backup your apps and do a batch restore of your apps and data or just restore the app with no data.
Well now it gives you an option to create a zip (flashable in recovery) of either your apps or your apps with data. This will make the process of switching ROMs and getting your apps back almost seamless. Just flash the ROM, flash the .zip to get all your apps back, reboot and you are ready to go. Fantastic update.
Information below was found on Phandroid. Peace.
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/07/titanium-backup-for-root-users-gets-new-flashable-zip-backups/

Wow nice

This is actually an awesome feature. Unfortunately, I lost my TiBu license quite awhile ago and moved onto RTB. Hoping RTB eventually implements this as well considering they're big competitors. Or I might just pick up another license if it goes on sale again.
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My favorite app because it saves me so much time!.. I'm my opinion this is the most full featured backup/restore app in the play store

I tried the recovery zip after flashing a ROM last night. It restored all my apps no trouble....but no data. And I did select app+data option. Maybe a fluke. See if it works next time.
Anyone else try it?

I love this feature, this is why I bought pro despite the price because of how well it is made
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I never used this app I just started to use app2zip about a month or so ago. It doesnt backup the data just the apps u select including system apps. Seeing this I'm gonna have to give it a go.
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biglil1 said:
I never used this app I just started to use app2zip about a month or so ago. It doesnt backup the data just the apps u select including system apps. Seeing this I'm gonna have to give it a go.
enjoying sith3, thank u to all
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If you purchase the pro key you will not regret it.. If I was only able to make one purchase in the play Store. this would be the app I would buy

biglil1 said:
I never used this app I just started to use app2zip about a month or so ago. It doesnt backup the data just the apps u select including system apps. Seeing this I'm gonna have to give it a go.
enjoying sith3, thank u to all
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It is supposed to back up data and in a batch restore it will give the options...app only...data only...app and data. And it works fine.
But I tried the new recovery zip feature...chose apps and data and the data didn't restore. I had to do it manually later.

I tried this feature. Some data restored, and on first boot after flashing zip, titanium ran on its own to restore the rest. Couldn't make sure the programs all came out ok because the whole rom went south on me. Not a related issue though.
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Grntrenchman said:
I tried this feature. Some data restored, and on first boot after flashing zip, titanium ran on its own to restore the rest. Couldn't make sure the programs all came out ok because the whole rom went south on me. Not a related issue though.
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I wanted to test it out so I made a zip, and a nandroid. I wiped all my data and tried to restore my apps with my zip. File and everything worked but it took forever for the first boot to complete.. So far I'm finding it quicker to do it from within the app.. But I'll try it out a few more times on different roms to see what results I get
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I just did this as I had to replace my SII and the backup wasn't recognizing any of my apps. Zip file was really quick and I got all my data but I had to install them individually after flashing. Was there a quicker way?
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RedLead550 said:
I just did this as I had to replace my SII and the backup wasn't recognizing any of my apps. Zip file was really quick and I got all my data but I had to install them individually after flashing. Was there a quicker way?
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Back up the apps without app data.
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sirdowski said:
Back up the apps without app data.
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Get App2zip from the market it backs up data apps and system apps. Flash it in cwm recovery. Or look up clockwork combiner its nice it combines multiple zips into one zip that you flash in recovery saving you time because everything you need is all in one zip.
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rymanh said:
I wanted to test it out so I made a zip, and a nandroid. I wiped all my data and tried to restore my apps with my zip. File and everything worked but it took forever for the first boot to complete.. So far I'm finding it quicker to do it from within the app.. But I'll try it out a few more times on different roms to see what results I get
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Hi could you please tell me how long did it take in the first boot ? coz i am having the same problem

Sameh mohamed said:
Hi could you please tell me how long did it take in the first boot ? coz i am having the same problem
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It took like 12 minutes
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Great feature. I have pro licenses for RTB and TB since they were on discount. I go between the two since each has features that I like in particular. Some people like an all-in-one solution but I'm fine with them both.

[Q] How to backup app + data?

I'm currently using an older FrostyJB rom and would like to update to the latest version. The problem is that I've spent alot of time tweaking the settings, downloading apps, and tweaking app settings to my liking.
Is there a way I can save all the apps, app settings, and data? That way after I update to the latest rom version, I can just load it up and won't have to fiddle with downloading all the apps and setting them up again.

Nandroid backup!
From cwm (rom manager)or (goo manager) from the playstore! It does a whole backup of all you're stuff.
Also titanium backup's you're apps n stuff. Either or but if u want the whole thing I suggest a NANDROID BACKUP!!!
U BETTER AXXEEEEE SOMEONE ABOUT IT! dont forget it
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Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
T-Mobile SGS III

mt3g said:
Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
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All of what he said.

Also it might be safe to assume you can just flash over on top of the old version, just don't report bugs if you have some, if things start acting weird and you get force closes, then wipe and start over. Longest run on ever.
T-Mobile SGS III

mt3g said:
Titanium backup look up a tutorial vids on YouTube. You can just select backup data and then restore it after wards. Make sure you only select data not system
T-Mobile SGS III
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Thanks, that worked flawlessly. :victory:

k3vn said:
Thanks, that worked flawlessly. :victory:
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Yeah um gonna try that too thanks for sharing.

Yep. Titanium backup is what you need.

Me I use app2zip in order to backup my apps and what i like about it is that it makes a zip that you can flash right after you flash a rom.
It says that if your data is not erase it will restore it but it doesn't work all the time for me so I use a different app to backup apps and phone data to restore them.
More steps than TB but free
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My backup will restore apps and data and easier to use than titanium.
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backups
depends on the backup i'm doing on which one i prefer:
titanium backup if i want to backup the app and the data
superbox if i want just the .apk backed up for later install

The_F_Word said:
Nandroid backup!
From cwm (rom manager)or (goo manager) from the playstore! It does a whole backup of all you're stuff.
Also titanium backup's you're apps n stuff. Either or but if u want the whole thing I suggest a NANDROID BACKUP!!!
U BETTER AXXEEEEE SOMEONE ABOUT IT! dont forget it
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I don't think he's looking to restore a full backup such as a nandroid. He's wanting to flash a newer version of a rom and make sure all his settings are the same afterwards. I'm sure he wants to have all his messages and bookmarks and apps and widgets to all be there afterward.
Honestly, I don't think there is such an app as I would have found it by now. I hate flashing rom updates every other day and having to restore my messages (and finding out that the backup is from a week ago so I've lost a bunch), downloading my apps and having to reset the settings (usually forgetting an app or 2 every time), not having my bookmarks anymore, etc.
I know you can restore a lot of this stuff from TB, as I usually do, but I always had worries about restoring things from one build onto another for compatibility reasons and to avoid FC's and such. I don't really think there is a foolproof way of doing what he wants. It's a little safer to do this by hand but inevitably you will lose or forget some things along the way.

Using TB I encountered many problems after a frosty upgrade awhile back. Something about the file system? Has anyone encountered this, as I would also like to upgrade from an old nandroid frosty bk
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dito33 said:
My backup will restore apps and data and easier to use than titanium.
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I agree. I prefer this over TB when it comes to backups but that's my personal preference.
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Toz35 said:
Using TB I encountered many problems after a frosty upgrade awhile back. Something about the file system? Has anyone encountered this, as I would also like to upgrade from an old nandroid frosty bk
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Did you try to restore system data? If so, then that's the problem. Never do that for any reason (when updating the rom).

What I usually do is restore apps like evernote with data basically apps that have info on it. While others ones like Pandora without data in which I could start from Scratch without losing anything. If you want to keep actual settings really I think the only way to do it is if your upgrading the same rom to a different version and rom has to support it.
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[Q] Flashing different ROMS SGH-T989

When flashing between ROM's and restoring data i'm having trouble. I just wanted to know if the data from a previous ROM is compatible with the new ROM. I'm doing a full wipe ever time and using TWRP. I tried flashing from slimbean to PACMAN but I always get stuck on the boot in PACMAN when I try to restore data from slim.
Should i be doing a full wipe and restoring apps via Titanium instead?
Thanks

yea restore your apps with tb. from my understanding its never good to restore data

smartguy044 said:
yea restore your apps with tb. from my understanding its never good to restore data
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I've never had a problem restoring data when upgrading the ROM (ie slimbean from 7 to 7.5 most recently). I read somewhere that this was a common practice and have been doing it for a while now with no problems. My issue only surfaced when switching between ROMS.

yea same rom is fine different roms is not

Cbtriplec said:
I've never had a problem restoring data when upgrading the ROM (ie slimbean from 7 to 7.5 most recently). I read somewhere that this was a common practice and have been doing it for a while now with no problems. My issue only surfaced when switching between ROMS.
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U cannot restore system data to different Roms, u can restore apps, apps only with no data, diff Roms have diff signatures, if u try to restore data from one to the other ur going to end up with a soft brick, updating a ROM and restoring is OK because it has the same base files, those same base files are not compatible with a diff ROM, now if its the same base rom like cm or PAC of something like that its doable, still not wise but doable, but seems like u made up t mind already so if anything happens u have been warned lol
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U cannot restore system data to different Roms, u can restore apps, apps only with no data, diff Roms have diff signatures, if u try to restore data from one to the other ur going to end up with a soft brick, updating a ROM and restoring is OK because it has the same base files, those same base files are not compatible with a diff ROM, now if its the same base rom like cm or PAC of something like that its doable, still not wise but doable, but seems like u made up t mind already so if anything happens u have been warned lol
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Ahh... got it. Thanks for the explanation (and warning).

Cbtriplec said:
Ahh... got it. Thanks for the explanation (and warning).
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I restore app data all the time....no matter what rom I switch too. Never had an issue. I do NOT restore system app data....just stuff like launcher, bank app, anything I had to set up a lot of settings...like smart keyboard, handcent. I'd say I have about 15 to 20 apps I restore data too.....and have never had a problem. Doesn't matter what rom I flashed.
Just saying!
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Oh....I use titanium backup. And yes...I restore app data for my select apps between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 roms and vice versa too. Again....never an issue.
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You restore using TB ? Or are you able to do this via Twrp?
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Cbtriplec said:
You restore using TB ? Or are you able to do this via Twrp?
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I use tb. After I'm all flashed, debloated the way I like it and a few other things done, I do 2 batch restores. One for apps with data....and one for the other apps with apps only selected...no data. Never ever had an issue. Maybe the odd app doesn't work right, but nothing I have on my phone lately. Everything works fine. The only thing I need to usually fix are ringtones/notification sounds of anything I restored with data...cause it doesn't restore the previous sounds for some reason. (Alarm clock, handcent, Voxer....for examples)
I think the NEVER restore app data started when our jb roms were new and all ports....was a precaution devs suggested to eliminate that as a reason for problems. Now days I think its fine to restore app data. Again....not system app data tho!
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kj2112 said:
I restore app data all the time....no matter what rom I switch too. Never had an issue. I do NOT restore system app data....just stuff like launcher, bank app, anything I had to set up a lot of settings...like smart keyboard, handcent. I'd say I have about 15 to 20 apps I restore data too.....and have never had a problem. Doesn't matter what rom I flashed.
Just saying!
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Oh....I use titanium backup. And yes...I restore app data for my select apps between 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 roms and vice versa too. Again....never an issue.
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Yes u are right, I misworded myself, as long as its not a system app is what I should've said, user app data will not have any adverse effects since the data is only related to the app and not the ROM itself, sorry for the misunderstanding
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