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Hey everyone,
As you may all know, there’s a fairly large demand to put Android on the Omnia. After researching it myself, I decided since no one else is doing it I’ll take the incentive and give it my best shot. Don’t get too excited, since I may not get very far. But before I begin, there’re three questions I have to ask:
*NOTE: I own a Verizon i910 Omnia*
1. How do I extract the bootloader, kernel, and rom from the device? I’ve tried all sorts of rom kitchens and utilities and the things I get are either useless or work but only with i900 roms I downloaded and therefore not very helpful.
2. I need to disassemble WM’s device drivers (for the screen, touchscreen, buttons to start), and port them to a custom Linux kernel (that’s what Android will be placed on top of). What software do you recommend (for disassembling WM drivers for ARM in PE format)? A day’s worth of google searching turned up little to nothing.
3. This will involve flashing my one and only Omnia with bootloaders, kernels, and roms that, in all likelihood, will brick my device as I test it. I read in certain places something about a “jtag” cable. Can I use this to flash data directly to the chips without any kind of software running on the phone? If so, what kind of information can you provide? I don’t really care about my warranty, considering what I’m going to do to it To rephrase the question, what options (besides returning the phone) do I have to recover it if it gets bricked?
If anyone wants to offer their support I’d really appreciate it. I need people experienced with the inner workings of a WM device and also people experienced in Linux, specifically device drivers.
it would be great if you could install the Android OS. but i think we need to wait for the official drivers for Android, even if they would be released by Samsung. i start thinking it is impossible.
I honestly doubt Samsung will go the extra mile for a single product (even one as awesome as the Omnia) and port an entirely different operating system to just one of their products. This is one we're gonna have to do ourself. It is possible to do, I'm just stuck right now because I don't know how to dump the i910's rom, which contains all the device drivers I need to make a full-featured port of Android possible. This is what I need help with. It's really not that impossible, it just takes a bit of work.
Mods, could you move this thread to "development and hacking"? It would probably be seen by the people I want it to be seen by there. Thanks.
hey..dude.. checkup this from this group of ppl @
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431329
may be u can join ..
Hey Guys, I've got an Omnia as well and really really want Android on it. Although I am unable to script. I thought of a way to contribute a bit as well. I set up a website to raise money for the first person or organisation that pulls it off to run Android on the Omnia.
Have a look here:
I chipped in a €100 myself as well to make a start. I hope you guys can contribute some money as well so that it motivates the developers even more.
For the developers out there: "We know you can do it!"
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How can an project be real. If Basics are unknown?
Qualcomm, QCT Tools, Firmware structure etc...
For study:
http://www.4shared.com/file/108584795/bb49ee52/I900_090226.html
Big thanx to barisyalcin.
For Android on Omnia. Good Luck.
The way is the Destination.
Best Regards
Why even bother installing a shell?
the android on the omnia only installs a shell compound, it does not actually convert the omnia into a full fledged Android phone.
I would just scrap it and pick up an actual android phone.
hi all,
I read this thread just now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857188
I wanna talk about the same thing but that thread has been closed.
According to some website, I found both G10 and iPhone4 are based on ARM architecture. I have use IDA to analyse some files in iOS 4.2.1 update packages and I found it use ARM7 instruction set. So I think there is still some possibility to port iOS kernel to G10. Is there anyone who also interested on this? Could you tell me something useful about this project? Thanks a lot.
BTW: If you think this post makes no means, please do not laugh at me as the guys who has done this in the thread above. I only talk about my idea. Although this idea maybe impossible to be implemented. I hope you can give me some adivse, information or others, not your ridicule. Thanks in advance.
It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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dr.m0x said:
It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
jilingshu said:
Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
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Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
ghostofcain said:
Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
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I just discuss about the possibility and gather information about this. So, do not suggest me to buy a iPhone. BTW: I'd like to buy a iPad2 when it released.
Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
sromer said:
Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
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Nowadays Android can run well on iPhone. So why not try to port iOS to Android phone?
I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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hmm... Resolution is a issue only for application developers... It should not be a problem for kernel porting I think.
i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
panyan said:
i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
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Yes. To driver the peripheral device, we have to write all the driver or at least, modify the original driver. Without the source code, this would be too hard.
BTW: Is it possible for us to port xnu(or the kernel of mac os x) to ARM platform just as iOS do?
And why would you want to
Sent from my leedroid 1..... ah the latest one Desire HD
you don't have iOS source right, you will have to disassemble and go thorugh lots of code, replace a lot of things, then fix so that every thing works in a flow..
This will take years! with no assurance of success again. you may also have to find security holes in iOS again to load it on a different phone.
If you had the source then few months!
Not to mention a possible law suit from Apple.
Hi folks.....it s possible have dualboot on DHD?how to install win7 on DHD? It s possible porting os6 of blackberry on DHD or HD2? thanks.....
^^^^ no its not possible right to put up Win7 on DHD! don't think anybody is going to work on that also.
But Win7 is ported to HD2, or not? Correct me, if i'm wrong. And if it's ported to HD2, it should be possible to port it to the DHD.
I think the problem is only the boot not the porting....because on the HD2 is possible load win7, linux, winxp, android, ecc ecc.....
IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
fkofilee said:
IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
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Ok,epic!
Anyway,why would anyone want iOS?I find it pure bs.But even if there was a way and a reason,would porting it be important enough to put you against Apple?Because,and excuse me everyone for the language I use,the bastards over at apple can sue you for naming a product with an "i" in front!
Consider this just morbid curiosity. I don't care if it's a bad idea.
I know I can run a chrooted Linux on these things, but I want to see just how far you can take it. I thought about it and realized we have an impressive amount of hardware in these little devices. A decent CPU+GPU+DSP, hardware support for USB hosting, HDMI output, two built in cameras, etc. I should be able to use my Evo as a full-fledged computer, albeit with a little work.
I started Googling around. Maybe my Google-fu is weak right now, but it seems hard to come across solid information about the hardware in the Evo, and what kind of support you'd find in a vanilla (non-Android) Linux kernel. Every hit I come across is specifically Android related.
Basically, I want to run a vanilla kernel, uCLibC and Busybox, and built a rudimentary software stack on top of that for accomplishing some basic things. Where I go from there really depends on my success getting just that to run.
Can anyone turn up some solid info for what kind of support the Linux kernel has for the Evo's hardware? I don't care about cell connectivity, but it would be pointless if I couldn't get good support for the CPU, GPU, USB controller, wifi controller, HDMI output (hopefully), and touchscreen (I really don't want to lug a keyboard around -- yes, I plan to actually use this). I'll go as far as hacking drivers in that aren't already present, and even developing my own window manager with a soft keyboard, but I can't even find solid info on whether or not all the Evo's hardware has open source reference drivers, or if they're already in the mainline kernel.
Any help at all would be appreciated. Any links that point in the right direction, or any advice from developers who've had to mess around with drivers during ROM/kernel work.
Thanks.
sounds great
What are the Disadvantages of Rooting ?
There are two main disadvantages to rooting and Android phone;
Rooting immediately voids your phone's warranty-Once rooted, don't try to bring your phone back for service or warranty work. You are on your own!
Rooting involves the risk of "bricking" your phone-In essence, a "bricked" phone is no better than carrying around a brick in your pocket. The phone is dead when it has been "bricked."
Other potential disadvantages, though less severe, are still worthy of consideration;
Poor performance-Though the intention of "rooting" a phone is to give the phone more performance, several users have found that, in their attempts to speed up the phone or add additional features, that their phones lost both performance speed and features. Remember that when you "root" your Android phone, you are making changes to the stock operating system.
Viruses-Yes, even phones can get viruses. A common practice that people do with "rooted" phones is to flash their ROM's with custom programs. Whenever you make changes to the code of a software, you run the risk of introducing a virus.
What are the Advantages of Rooting ?
"Rooting" your Android phone does afford you numerous benefits, including;
Running special applications-Superuser is an app that can only be run on a rooted Android phone. This allows you to control which apps have access to the "root" system. Another popular application that "rooting" affords is the ability to tether a computer to your Android phone so that the computer can access the Internet using the phone's data connection. Another program can allow your Android to be used as a WiFi Hotspot without having to pay your provider for the feature.
Freeing up memory-When you install an app on your phone, it is stored on the phone's memory. "Rooting" allows you to move installed applications to your SD card, thus freeing up system memory for additional files or apps.
Custom ROM's-This is the most powerful feature of "rooted" phones. There are hundreds of custom ROM's that can do anything from speeding up the processing speed of your phone to changing the entire look and feel of your phone.
Summary
The decision to "root" your Android phone is one that should not be rushed into. Though the allure of having an unlocked phone is powerful, having a "bricked" phone is, trust me, not very much fun.
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you are condoning warez and should be banned
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akshay.bhat93 said:
Turn your Galaxy Y into a super power turbo
the rest is science
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CALIBAN666 said:
whats that
are u sure u have permission for this confusin scripts.
all these u can downloading here and when an app like juicedefender is required than u becomes this from me:HAHAHA
I think its better u close this post
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caliban look at the first part of your quote and remove the 3rd party link the website since it is warez
deathnotice01 said:
caliban look at the first part of your quote and remove the 3rd party link the website since it is warez
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thanx bro,i have it totaly forgotten,but its done.
Explantion
Another program can allow your Android to be used as a WiFi Hotspot without having to pay your provider for the feature.
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would u xplain these lines?? i lyk to use this feautre...
Basic Stuff
Advantage :Access to system files
Disadvantage : warranty loss
basic stuff: don't make any useless post. *ups...did I say that?*
akshay.bhat93 said:
Rooting immediately voids your phone's warranty-Once rooted, don't try to bring your phone back for service or warranty work. You are on your own!
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Nope, flash any stock ROM, do unroot and then reset your counter, Never had any problems with service centre this way
akshay.bhat93 said:
Poor performance-Though the intention of "rooting" a phone is to give the phone more performance, several users have found that, in their attempts to speed up the phone or add additional features, that their phones lost both performance speed and features. Remember that when you "root" your Android phone, you are making changes to the stock operating system
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This is also wrong, without rooting there would be no major development, and development indeeds boosts the performance. It never reduces speed, performance and features.
akshay.bhat93 said:
The decision to "root" your Android phone is one that should not be rushed into. Though the allure of having an unlocked phone is powerful, having a "bricked" phone is, trust me, not very much fun.
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Soft bricks can be restored quite easily. You would never get a hard brick by following xda posts, also if they dont have the knowledge to unbrick there are load of posts on how to and a whole community to help them.
you should have seen this thread before it was edited
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2. We already have threads like this that give a lot more info.
Hi Folks:
I'm afraid I rooted a couple of my devices via Kingo a couple weeks ago and only now am I learning of the various confirmed/potential consequences. Based on feedback from a couple programmers and developers, coupled with what I've seen in some of the forums, this application employs its exploit as a guise not only to obtain personal information on the device, but also the PC. Furthermore, from what I understand, it installs very questionable, unnecessary material on one's PC that enables KINGO to track a user indefinitely.
In any case, I want to ensure that I can verify the material that was installed on my PC/phone and to greatest extent possible, remove all traces off my PC. That's my first objective. Second, I'd like to address my device in much the same capacity. Unfortunately, I'm quite lay when it comes to technical matters of this nature and thus I reach out to the community for guidance.
Thanks!
rhetorician said:
Hi Folks:
I'm afraid I rooted a couple of my devices via Kingo a couple weeks ago and only now am I learning of the various confirmed/potential consequences. Based on feedback from a couple programmers and developers, coupled with what I've seen in some of the forums, this application employs its exploit as a guise not only to obtain personal information on the device, but also the PC. Furthermore, from what I understand, it installs very questionable, unnecessary material on one's PC that enables KINGO to track a user indefinitely.
In any case, I want to ensure that I can verify the material that was installed on my PC/phone and to greatest extent possible, remove all traces off my PC. That's my first objective. Second, I'd like to address my device in much the same capacity. Unfortunately, I'm quite lay when it comes to technical matters of this nature and thus I reach out to the community for guidance.
Thanks!
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Your PC will have to be cleaned very well.
Your phone will wipe it go back to stock and root away
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BACARDILIMON said:
Your PC will have to be cleaned very well.
Your phone will wipe it go back to stock and root away
TWEAKED 2.0
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Roger that. I feel pretty comfortable rescuing my devices. It's the PC I'm worried about. What, exactly, does "very well" entail? Do you recommend a particular program? So far, Microsoft, McAfee, and Iobit all fail to identify potential vulnerabilities.
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Roger that. I feel pretty comfortable rescuing my devices. It's the PC I'm worried about. What, exactly, does "very well" entail? Do you recommend a particular program? So far, Microsoft, McAfee, and Iobit all fail to identify potential vulnerabilities.
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I am a security freak so you can't go by me. My step would be a full wipe on PC. But that is so extreme. I think is u use good virus protection and a reg checker/ cleaner you should be good. But I am not a pro. You might need to check in PC forums
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I had my PC checked by many friends who are in the security business and they found nothing after using it. Since I have wiped and installed Linux but they found nothing on my system after using it
Temasek CM11 & Yank Powered SM-N900T
I don't know if I'd go so far as to install Linux (unless, of course, that works for you and your needs...then I would recommend the idea highly)...but to guarantee any level of success I would absolutely insist on a complete repartition and reformat of your hard drive (and an ODIN flash of the complete factory restore image....bootloader, recovery and all)
If there is any residual risk of compromise I would expect virus scanners to pick it up (but not McAfee or Norton...they are the most popular therefore the most targeted for compromise)....AVG, Kaspersky, Avira....Just like Opera is the most secure browser or OSX and Linux are the most secure OSs. It's not that it's necessarily the most inherently secure options but they are also representative of the smallest fractions of the market therefore they are less attractive. The effort required to compromise them would be better spent on a more popular attack surface.
If your personal information and device performance means a goddamned thing to you WIPE EVERYTHING AS THOROUGHLY AS POSSIBLE. I am not kidding, I am not overstating the situation in the slightest. Do as I say.
To do anything less is to consider your personal information (top priority) and device performance (secondary priority) less than important.
Seriously now, does anybody have shred of evidence Kingo is a virus, besides hears says? Don't anti virus companies have a place to submit suspicious programs for evaluation? Did anybody with proper tools run trace to see what exactly Kingo is doing? There are tools to see registry entries made by Kingo and what they mean, there are ways to trace program etc I really would like to see some hard evidence or at least link to it.
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I don't know if I'd go so far as to install Linux (unless, of course, that works for you and your needs...then I would recommend the idea highly)...but to guarantee any level of success I would absolutely insist on a complete repartition and reformat of your hard drive (and an ODIN flash of the complete factory restore image....bootloader, recovery and all)
If there is any residual risk of compromise I would expect virus scanners to pick it up (but not McAfee or Norton...they are the most popular therefore the most targeted for compromise)....AVG, Kaspersky, Avira....Just like Opera is the most secure browser or OSX and Linux are the most secure OSs. It's not that it's necessarily the most inherently secure options but they are also representative of the smallest fractions of the market therefore they are less attractive. The effort required to compromise them would be better spent on a more popular attack surface.
If your personal information and device performance means a goddamned thing to you WIPE EVERYTHING AS THOROUGHLY AS POSSIBLE. I am not kidding, I am not overstating the situation in the slightest. Do as I say.
To do anything less is to consider your personal information (top priority) and device performance (secondary priority) less than important.
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LOL wasn't recommending Linux but yes I only installed win 8 to use kingo then back to Linux which is all I have used for years
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The only security concern was their collection of your IMEI number. However, they removed this shortly after being contacted about it. As it currently stands, there are no known risks of using this program.
That and using some public chinese website to store all the software fixes for all different devices, at least as far as I know. This is not some kind of program that appeared from nowhere last night, this was published by Kingoapp technology, or something like that and the program works as advertised. They don't want to publish source code and I don't blame them, maybe they don't want other people to copy their work, maybe they don't want Samsung to patch security holes they found, or maybe they use other developers work, I don't care. I think I read somewhere that none of the 27 or so respectable antivirus programs flag Kingo as harmful and by now somebody should have found something if there was anything to find, especially that there was so much suspicion and controversy. There is always a risk when you download software from the web (whole websites could be fake and look official), but I have not seen one single proof Kingo was harmful in any way from anybody yet and I'm sure many people used it already.
This is all a red herring. The IMEI collection was the really only issue and they stopped that fairly quickly.
krelvinaz said:
This is all a red herring. The IMEI collection was the really only issue and they stopped that fairly quickly.
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So it's safe to use?
I was planing to root my note 3 and kingo seems good was just worried.
xile6 said:
So it's safe to use?
I was planing to root my note 3 and kingo seems good was just worried.
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I have encountered 0 problems using it. Used on my note and both of my note 3's. No problems PC or device wise. And there is no proof of KingoApp doing anything malicious, just hearsay.