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Simple poll, just want to know how many people are using task killers or not.
EDIT. This is for froyo users
Nope. The Desire rarely slows down so I don't see a need for it. Especially with Android's efficient Activity stack management.
Nah, I'm not using one. I was when I first got my phone but I've found that without one I actually get better battery life.
I have one installed but hardly ever use it.
Not for speed or memory, but sometimes I have to kill something in order to get access to camera.
touch of jobo said:
I have one installed but hardly ever use it.
Not for speed or memory, but sometimes I have to kill something in order to get access to camera.
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What would you need to kill to access the camera?
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LED flashlight or bar code scanner. I think there was another one once but I forgot.
Ah I guess that would make sense. I don't think I've ever had an issue like that but I rarely use my camera to be honest.
I don't find a need to use a task killer for my own usage.
task killer came with the rom LeeDroid v1.6
Task killer is useless imho.I was using desire with 2.1 for a long time having 30mb of free RAM and so what.every time system needed more RAM it killed something by itself.really no need to use it. It's Linux powa and the whole awesomnes of its memory management
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Like everyone already said, taskkillers are useless i'd use one only to be sure that sense ui isn't running in background when using an alternative launcher.
I tried using one for a while but I found it to be pretty useless and so I don't use one anymore.
I just got my Defy today and started reading up on some stuff. I got a couple questions that hopefully someone will be kind enough to answer.
Firstly, I wonder if my back cover is loose, cause it seems that I can still push down the bottom part a little so I wonder if anyone else has this problem? Its not really noticeable but it really bugs me though I'm thinking to get a case anyway.
Okay, well I rooted the Defy using z4root and it worked perfect
I have a question about the task manager though, it shows a a lot of apps running but its says CPU 0% , RAM xx.xMB. Should I manually end task all of these apps or just leave it?
Last question for now is about my custom wallpaper not being centered when im on the lockscreen. I know it's nothing but little things like this bothers me xD. Is there a way to fix this? I disabled wallpaper scrolling so on my homescreen the wallpaper is centered but not when im on the lockscreen.
I'm still reading around about rooting, editing themes, and such..it would be cool to change some colors around. So far this phone is pretty awesome for my first smartphone/android.
Great forum btw! Thanks all
i can push my back cover a bit, but I think it's nit a problem
I was using app killer on my stock rom, but now i'm not.still cannot decide. Honestly, it'a good thing, and i'd instal it. I cannot comment on a wallpaper, I'm using the scrollable one. You can try a program widgetlocker, it allow more locksvreen tuning. BTW, you can cut your wallp, to the phone's resolution.that'd solve your problem
A taskkiller for defy is not necessary cauz u have no energy consumption if apps are loaded into ram - and there is quite a lot of ram available, while manually starting an app consumes energy every time. Only for data using apps like skype i use a task killer.
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thanks guys.
everything is working great. Good phone
I really love my Nexus. Gorgeous, perfectly sized 720p display, super sleek black curved display with NO carrier branding or capacitive buttons, nice loud speakerphone & ICS is fantastic. Great things to love about the Nexus!
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
So I got to thinking, on older computers with slower processors - if you try and run youtube at 720p @ full screen, it gets super choppy and laggy. Then I compared that to the nexus. Its trying to push ALOT of pixels. Is a 1.35 ghz processor enough for the resolution it runs?
Would a 1.5 or 1.7 ghz phone run it normally?
Whats with the Lag???
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
Lol well I tried, enjoy Odin and touch wiz
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Google Play won't carry - it's not a Google phone. It will be sold the same way the Galaxy S2 was.
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Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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This, also, maybe try running something other than AOKP for a while. Though its really customisable, it isn't exactly the snappiest ROM.
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
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roflmao. Google Play won't carry it. Its not a Google phone... It'll be sold by your local carrier or importer.
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EyeAndroid said:
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
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I'm bone stock 4.0.4 and don't have any of this lag you're talking of. Essentially perfect, very few noticeable moments of lag.
This phone isn't laggy. You're just doing it wrong.
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Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Hmm well I have never tried the Trinity kernel, just thought everyone raves about franco so why switch? Didn't know the GPU would effect general performance. Always thought it was just for gaming. Trinity can be OC'd?
Too MUCH pRon
shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Ya man, never been a huge fan of the S2 due to the general design of the phone + I hate touchwiz and odin.
Yesterday I was fed up & Just put in an order for an HTC One S but then cancelled it today when I heard the speakerphone and saw how amplified the dots of the pixels really can get when you run Super Amoled on a 960 x 540 res.
LOVE LOVE LOVE Stock ICS.
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!
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Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!
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You must not have Owned any HTC phones
"Surely you cant be serious??!?"
"I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley"
earlyberd said:
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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This is not at all necessary...
martonikaj said:
This is not at all necessary...
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Why do you say that?
(As i Just got finished downloading ATK)
EyeAndroid said:
You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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i have a SG2...getting my nexus delivered tomorrow so i started browsing the nexus section...
for starters on any android you shouldnt press home unless you are leaving the app for a brief moment and are planning on going back to it...home will keep the app running...you have to use the back key to close out of many apps (especially the ones that dont have a designated exit button)
app management is very crucial but auto killing isnt good for the system...android will close apps on its own as space is needed...however there are certain apps that are service hogs and eat up ram...i am somewhat of an app hoarder but i know which apps to keep and which to get rid of...normally if you have like 120mb of free ram or so a dual core phone shouldnt ever lag...if it lags its not due to memory
on my SG2 i have like 200+ apps but almost always have like 250mb ram free (even without a reboot for several days)...on the rare occasions that i feel it lag i check and sometimes i will see that it dropped down to like 80mb free...a quick reboot fixes it
its also good to reboot your phone every few days
I'm reading a bone stock sprint galaxy nexus. I have no lag at all. And I'm coming from an epic touch. In my experience custom rom's slow down after a while. Which is why I usually stay stock with root.
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You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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You want to try to avoid automated task killers because they can lead to stability issues if they're too aggressive, and as an additional background process they have the potential to eat your battery life. The safest way to kill apps is just by swiping them away with the recent apps menu.
Google tries really hard to implement a good system of memory management in Android, the problem is just that developers don't really utilize it. You can clearly see the difference especially if you like to run alternative browsers or old games. All of the stock Google apps work great and I can keep them open forever, but if I leave StumbleUpon or Plants Vs. Zombies open in the background long enough my phone will start to chug.
Hello all!
I'm currently looking into buying the gsm galaxy nexus (S. Korea) and am torn between it and the Galaxy s3, which hasn't been released here yet. I was just hoping to hear from Nexus owners, is there any choppiness or lag to the Nexus (stock version) at all? (app drawers, moving in homescreens, transitions to menus, etc.)
I saw the video posted by xda demoing the S3 and was impressed by how smooth and seamless all the transitions were! Honestly, I love the Nexus design more than the S3 and don't really like the way touchwiz looks.
I don't mind that the Nexus falls behind in terms of specs, I'd just love to hear that day to day use of the phone is a smooth and frustration-free experience...
Thanks!
Not really, and if there is, you can root and fix it.
No.I take it for daily use（no game）and it just runs like flying.
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Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494685&highlight=laggy
After about 6 months of having this phone I can tell you I've had no lag issues whatsoever with stock. I've used animated wallpapers, multiple browsers, graphic intensive games, hd movies and do not remember the phone staggering at all.
In contrast my transformer prime does lag all the time, which doesnt make sense, since the hardware specs are better. But thats not related to your question.
Anyway, if you have the chance to try it somewhere, do so. It's always better to see it for yourself.
Not if you know what you are doing, people who complain of lag do not.
Well said wiredpirate. I have no lag issues here.
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Not if you know what you are doing, people who complain of lag do not.
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Awesome! good to know, thanks guys.
Wiredpirate, do you think you can tell me what you mean by "knowing what I'm doing?" Does that mean using compatible roms/kernels combinations? Moderate widget use?
Do you have any recommendations on kernels? (I'd like to keep stock rom)
Factors that are important to me are:
-smooth, stutter-free performance
-good battery life
-good phone reception/ 3g signal (don't know if this can be influenced by the kernel)
I DON'T plan on doing any intensive (3D) gaming. Web browsing will be fairly important. Customization is not important whatsoever; I love the completely vanilla ICS. Any recommendations would be amazing...Thanks!
Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask another question mid-thread like this.
mataee said:
Awesome! good to know, thanks guys.
Wiredpirate, do you think you can tell me what you mean by "knowing what I'm doing?" Does that mean using compatible roms/kernels combinations? Moderate widget use?
Do you have any recommendations on kernels? (I'd like to keep stock rom)
Factors that are important to me are:
-smooth, stutter-free performance
-good battery life
-good phone reception/ 3g signal (don't know if this can be influenced by the kernel)
I DON'T plan on doing any intensive (3D) gaming. Web browsing will be fairly important. Customization is not important whatsoever; I love the completely vanilla ICS. Any recommendations would be amazing...Thanks!
Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask another question mid-thread like this.
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As far as a kernel I am happy with Franco. Definitely moderate widget use. Don't have to many apps that run in the background, or that stay awake with a background process. Use spare parts to set window animations and transitions to fast. Use a third party Launcher like Nova and set the speeds to fast, or in the case of Nova "faster than light". Don't have too many accounts syncing in accounts & sync. Set other apps not to sync or to rarely sync. Use "full power" setting in kernel. There has to be 10-20 other things I can't think of right now, when in doubt don't change the settings. Somebody else jump in with things you know helps. It's easy for me to change something and be able to tell if it slows down the phone, then I know not to use those settings.
WiredPirate said:
As far as a kernel I am happy with Franco. Definitely moderate widget use. Don't have to many apps that run in the background, or that stay awake with a background process. Use spare parts to set window animations and transitions to fast. Use a third party Launcher like Nova and set the speeds to fast, or in the case of Nova "faster than light". Don't have too many accounts syncing in accounts & sync. Set other apps not to sync or to rarely sync. Use "full power" setting in kernel. There has to be 10-20 other things I can't think of right now, when in doubt don't change the settings. Somebody else jump in with things you know helps. It's easy for me to change something and be able to tell if it slows down the phone, then I know not to use those settings.
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Im running an AOSP Rom and get easily a full days use with an on screen time of about 3.5 hours and 75% brightness. This phone kills my HTC Vivid on battery and performance. There is NO lag. I highly recommend it
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When I got my Tmo gs3 at the launch, it was blazing fast with no lag, maybe an occasional hiccup, and that was completely stock with all of my apps installed. I've been on FreeGS3 & stock kernel for about a month now & I'm starting to see quite a bit of lag in the home screens, opening apps, and especially in the SwiftKey keyboard which has always been extremely responsive in the past? I use the SClean feature that's an add on for the rom to optimize the memory & keep it cleaned up. I also have cleaned cache & dalvik regularly. The first few weeks I ran the rom I had no issues what so ever, so I don't believe the rom is the issue. I check my ram regularly and there's plenty free, and I often close apps that I'm not using. If anyone else has experienced this and has any idea of what's possibly causing it, please share your thoughts. Also, anyone who may have any suggestions or input. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to respond.
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When I got my Tmo gs3 at the launch, it was blazing fast with no lag, maybe an occasional hiccup, and that was completely stock with all of my apps installed. I've been on FreeGS3 & stock kernel for about a month now & I'm starting to see quite a bit of lag in the home screens, opening apps, and especially in the SwiftKey keyboard which has always been extremely responsive in the past? I use the SClean feature that's an add on for the rom to optimize the memory & keep it cleaned up. I also have cleaned cache & dalvik regularly. The first few weeks I ran the rom I had no issues what so ever, so I don't believe the rom is the issue. I check my ram regularly and there's plenty free, and I often close apps that I'm not using. If anyone else has experienced this and has any idea of what's possibly causing it, please share your thoughts. Also, anyone who may have any suggestions or input. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to respond.
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Every time you free up ram you are erasing apps that the phone has put In memory so next time they open fast. Once you clear ram the next time you open the same app it will take longer and might be a little laggy
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I'm having a similar issue. Also running sclean which helps with the keyboard lag but it comes back. I ran sd maid and had a ton if duplicate files. Not sure what's going in but it's driving me nuts.
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RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care
Crisisx1 said:
Every time you free up ram you are erasing apps that the phone has put In memory so next time they open fast. Once you clear ram the next time you open the same app it will take longer and might be a little laggy
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I understand, but I'm not clearing the ram, just simply closing apps when I'm finished with them such as Facebook, browser, YouTube, etc. I never dump the ram, as it kills battery, and the ram is holding commonly used apps in order to start them faster.
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RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care
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I appreciate your link, as communicating via Internet it's difficult to know how much each other understands. However, I'm familiar with ram & its purpose, and I've checked all of the obvious possibilities, and I'm sure that it's not related to user error. I suppose the only thing I can do is try flashing a different rom, or return to stock. If the problem isn't present, I can maybe try reflashing freegs3. I appreciate those that have taken the time to respond.