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gone a bit laggy

when I got my desire it was super fast (anything is compared to the hero)
however ive noticed that over time it has become a little laggy when live wallpapers are running
i have very little running in the background as far as I can tell
the screen movements dont seem as smooth
ive still got 50+mb of program memory left
the only things i have running in the background are
weather and toggle widgets
seepu (processor monitor program)
Gmail counter (screen widgets)
messaging counter (screen widgets)
I also have the following installed
advanced task killer
appbrain market sync
appremover
explorer
ezcam
google service
google translate
mixzing
moodpaper
navigon
oi file manager
onoff widget pack
places directory
pkt auction ebay
shop savvy
spotify
skype
trafficintel
traintimes
xda
i have done a hard reset and it still is sometimes laggy ... gets worse when i install programs ... ive tried to work out which is causing the lag but have give up
any idea#s
i regularly flush the cache also
its still faster that my hero however its annyoying that it appears to get slow
perhaps ive got use to the speed and now want faster speeds however thought id ask if anyone else is having problems

I never use live wallpapers, it makes it slow. You also have lag without live wallpaper on? And I think its very easy to get used to the speed.
I hope we get some update soon (or even the 2.2 eventually) and see some nice speed improvements.
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Live wallpapers altogether make my phone laggy. The nexus live wallpaper seems OKAY though. And yeah, 2.2 will hopefully fix the lag.
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I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.

scotch whisky said:
I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.
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+1 Completely agree.
ATK is the most likely cause of the slowdown.

yeah mine lags only when a) I use live wallpaper (which I dont anymore)
and b) when its installing an app after downloading (for a few seconds) other than that its fine.although I do wish for a fix in the new 2.2 or something

i agree live wallpapers slow mine down a bit (although nexus one seems ok)

I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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I use it too and I don't feel as if it slows down.

jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????

lambrospower said:
where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????
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just search for nexus one live wallpaper in the market. it's there.

60% at least lag free - very very simple solution

Hi guys,
I want to share my solution for fixing the LAG. I tested it on 2 phones and you get rid of 80-90% of the LAG in some easy steps:
replace TwLauncher with LauncherPro
if you use Beautiful Widgets install latest update (3.23) - don't check 'Refresh on wake',
go to Settings->Applications and filter to select all running applications
go to Market and clear cache and after that Force Close (several times )
go to Market Updater and Force Close (several times )
go to Samsung Task Manager, RAM Manag and run a Level 2 RAM clear
My phone is running very smooth for a week now. I have 102 apps and counting. Just an occasional lag, but for a very very short time. Once a day at most.

Samsung Task Manager, sound like you are using Froyo.
Does it work on Eclair?

CWKJ said:
Samsung Task Manager, sound like you are using Froyo.
Does it work on Eclair?
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Its as useless lag solution as it gets. Nothing in this has anything to do with lag on our phones.

dupel said:
Its as useless lag solution as it gets. Nothing in this has anything to do with lag on our phones.
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Agree, the steps above wont solve any lag issue even if its related to having low free mem, zero difference.. nothing.. zilch!

I'm using Eclair with Samsung task Manager from Samsung Apps.
My phone was lagging a lot. There were moments when I just [email protected]#[email protected]$#@ But this is how I got rid of most of the lag. My guess is that maybe it has something to do with the Market. I don't know, but definitely I'm not lying.
In my opinion the problem is not memory related. My wife's phone (just 20 apps installed) always has 100+ MB free memory and still had lag. With this "fix" the problem is almost gone.

You should not clear RAM.
It will empty your ram and clear all running program, so you will have a lot of free ram.
Lot of free ram means WASTED ram!
Linux systems are made to use all available ram and clear it when needed so if you empty it it will just be wasted.

ludovicianul said:
Hi guys,
I want to share my solution for fixing the LAG. I tested it on 2 phones and you get rid of 80-90% of the LAG in some easy steps:
replace TwLauncher with LauncherPro
if you use Beautiful Widgets install latest update (3.23) - don't check 'Refresh on wake',
go to Settings->Applications and filter to select all running applications
go to Market and clear cache and after that Force Close (several times )
go to Market Updater and Force Close (several times )
go to Samsung Task Manager, RAM Manag and run a Level 2 RAM clear
My phone is running very smooth for a week now. I have 102 apps and counting. Just an occasional lag, but for a very very short time. Once a day at most.
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No offence but this is complete rubbish

I know about RAM more than 90% of the persons on this forum. I just run that clear cache L2 ONCE.
If you think is rubbish, don't use it. My phone is running fine for a week with this stupid solution.

ludovicianul said:
I know about RAM more than 90% of the persons on this forum. I just run that clear cache L2 ONCE.
If you think is rubbish, don't use it. My phone is running fine for a week with this stupid solution.
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This is amusingly cute But this is not a "lag fix." It has been established hundreds of times that the "lag" is caused by Samsung's implementation of RFS. It is fixed by replacing the filesystem with something else. Nothing to do with free RAM.
Galaxy S has lots RAM so free RAM is generally not a problem. If it is, flashing one of the kernels with ~341MB of RAM will help notably (a lot better than this mucking around killing things).

Who said something about the RAM being the problem? I was just answering the angry guy who said that you shouldn't clear the RAM
I agree that the problem can be caused by the filesystem. I think that there are other causes too.
I'm not pretending that this is actually a FIX for the solution. I was just sharing my experience. My phone is running faster with these things that I've done. There'e a lot of people that are not willing to flash their phones to apply a lagfix. This can be a temporary solution for them.

ludovicianul said:
Who said something about the RAM being the problem? I was just answering the angry guy who said that you shouldn't clear the RAM
I agree that the problem can be caused by the filesystem. I think that there are other causes too.
I'm not pretending that this is actually a FIX for the solution. I was just sharing my experience. My phone is running faster with these things that I've done. There'e a lot of people that are not willing to flash their phones to apply a lagfix. This can be a temporary solution for them.
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Your thread title says otherwise. Anyways, like some other person has pointed out already this is rubbish.

Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.

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Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.
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I'm trying to be nice here, so please bear with me. We are not offended by your contributions, it is just that what you have written is not substantiated by facts. There is simply no correlation between what you have done to the elimination of the lag in the SGS.
It may have worked for you, and I'm not doubting that. But then again, I'm using hardcore optimized kernel and also the modded twlauncher. Right now, I don't even need to apply any lagfixes. User experience has been very satisfying.

It's actually the TouchWiz adding the RFS and the programming design itself causing the lag, I found one here by replacing the Touchwiz with tweak touchwiz and everything really good, I did the Voodoo the rest is history no more lags... I am using Push emails, Feedback for Facebook and Twitter, Beautiful widgets and I am not freeing RAM. It's really the skinning(touchwiz) causing problems with lag issues. Trust me

ludovicianul said:
Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.
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Apologies if I sounded offended, I am not. However, you did come across as a bit pompous (claiming to know more about RAM etc) and at the same time offered a 'solution' which does nothing to fix the lag issue and is simply misleading at best. Even the changed thread title is still very arbitrary.
Users, especially new users, may stumble upon this 'solution' and it really won't help them (at least as far as the lag is concerned), so it helps to be accurate in providing possible solutions.

Louieboy242000 said:
It's actually the TouchWiz adding the RFS and the programming design itself causing the lag, I found one here by replacing the Touchwiz with tweak touchwiz and everything really good, I did the Voodoo the rest is history no more lags... I am using Push emails, Feedback for Facebook and Twitter, Beautiful widgets and I am not freeing RAM. It's really the skinning(touchwiz) causing problems with lag issues. Trust me
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Nice. But the lag seems to occur with alternative launchers as well and within apps.

Wel i def agree with running LP over TouchWiz.. I found it very laggy on JPO.. LP on the otherhand...Smooth as silk

Ok. Apologies to everyone
The title was wrong. This wasn't intended as a solution, but more like and info sharing
IMO the root cause of the lag fix is not necessarily RFS, but stupid Samsung software.

as always: if you don't know what you're doing, don't post it as a "fix" or general truth...
I've said it before and i'll say it again:
alcohol helps very well against a head each... but it's not a cure!
What we're trying to accomplish here, is a CURE...

ludovicianul said:
Ok. Apologies to everyone
The title was wrong. This wasn't intended as a solution, but more like and info sharing
IMO the root cause of the lag fix is not necessarily RFS, but stupid Samsung software.
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No problem. And thanks for your suggestions.

New here! Installed CM7 2.3.5 recently...got some gripes. Maybe better options?

Hey y'all!
Phone runs damn fast now...2500 with 1.1Ghz /75. Even got as high as 2900 with 1.2ghz BUT... some simple improvements that can be made.
1) Lack of Task Manager that came with the stock 2.2.1 ROM which had auto-end feature. I installed Process Killer app, but maybe one out there that's better? It will kill apps at time intervals, but not prevent from opening again. For example Maps opens up A LOT without me running it (among several others). Eventually, this PK app uses 20% of battery to end these apps.
I tried to install 2.2.1 ROM task manager on CM7 and didn't work. maybe there's another method???
2) I miss the Swipe feature and stock keyboard. Anyway I can transfer these over? I forgot to back them up before CM7.
3) the dialer sucks. No speed dial and doesn't bring up contacts as you type them in the dialer
4) no battery saver mode. i had to download an app. forgot the name.
5) Wasn't connected to 3G at first, but found the answer here and simply is not faster than the stock 2.2.1 ROM. I was easily pulling well over 3Mbps downloads and not uncommon to get 4,5 and even 6mbps on Tmobile 3G. But on CM7 i barely get over 3, if I get there at all. Maybe Tmo throttled back my download speeds? I have been messing with the phone for 2 weeks trying to sort everything out.
Thanks!

1) Android system itself has good memory management, i.e, it automatically closes unwanted apps to free up memory if it really needs. Using task killer apps really do have much effect (at least nothing outright). So there's really no need to have one.
2) you can get swype here : http://beta.swype.com/
3) you can try 'go dialer' or any such dialer apps from market
4) Whats battery saver mode?
5) Have you changed the baseband to your region/provider?

1 & 3 Try the Go apps option,
GoLauncherEX gives a nice launcher very similar to ADW Launcher that comes with CM7 but does add a Running Tab to your app drawer if you wish to close apps down. Although this is not really needed, as mentioned above, Android shuts down apps not needed when needed.
GoDialer/GoContacts as a dialer replacement, themeable, good options, worth a try.
5 Look in the Apps for Defy Baseband and make sure you choose the one best for you. That might help with your 3G problem
Im no expert and still a bit of a novice but switching from Stock to CM7 was one of the best things I did so stick with it and CM7 will shine through

hey guys!
i was trying to figure out if there is any clean, fast rom (gingerbread) for the motorola defy!
i've tried the cm7 2.3.7 but it felt like there was something holding the phone back, plus battery was heating up like crazy.
quad score 2200
tried miui-looks fancy, like quite a few of the options they have like pop up message and the easy customization but not that great for me because theres no app drawer.
quad score 1990
used walter's ms2ginger,like it but not that much. its the fastest of all of these.
so now what i want to know is if theres a rom for the defy that would make me go gaga over my phone all over again!
quad score 1600
not sure if this is the right place for this so apologise my noob-ness
oh and since the defy+ is out, is there a way to get a nandroid of it to install on the older defy???? (since its the same thing except for the 1ghz processor clock speed) :S

Weird, I tried ms2ginger and it's more like a faster defy stock rom with the same random lags.
I haven't tried miui, but cm7 is faster than ms2ginger and (sure) stock rom and almost never lags. If you do not need call recording and you don't care about 720p recording/playback, cm7 is the best of them.
(720p playback in cm7 is not bad, just ms2ginger is better a little)

but the camera app on the ms2 ginger is the best! lol its so much nicer looking and functioning then the cm7! :O

Thanks guys! I actually have 2.3.7 CM7, not 2.3.5
pravarth said:
1) Android system itself has good memory management, i.e, it automatically closes unwanted apps to free up memory if it really needs. Using task killer apps really do have much effect (at least nothing outright). So there's really no need to have one.
2) you can get swype here : beta.swype.com
3) you can try 'go dialer' or any such dialer apps from market
4) Whats battery saver mode?
5) Have you changed the baseband to your region/provider?
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4) I have battery defender app. I shuts off the antenna after 5 min when the screen goes off. It's very similar how T mobile motoblur was on the Defy. They allowed you to set the phone on 3 different performance levels. Now that I have some of the stuff sorted out, the phone will last 2 days no problems (avg/below avg use).
5) There are 3 choices for baseband. They are (not sure of the whole name) XXXX.4, xxxx.9 and 6.0. My phone only works on the xxxx.4 choice. However, one thing i do notice on CM7 is that an 'H' shows up by the bars, whereas 2.2.1 rom just said 3G. This is something that if I had known earlier I would have checked my phone before going to CM7.
Does the APN count for anything?? I did have to enter some values for that.
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1 & 3 Try the Go apps option,
GoLauncherEX gives a nice launcher very similar to ADW Launcher that comes with CM7 but does add a Running Tab to your app drawer if you wish to close apps down. Although this is not really needed, as mentioned above, Android shuts down apps not needed when needed.
GoDialer/GoContacts as a dialer replacement, themeable, good options, worth a try.
5 Look in the Apps for Defy Baseband and make sure you choose the one best for you. That might help with your 3G problem
Im no expert and still a bit of a novice but switching from Stock to CM7 was one of the best things I did so stick with it and CM7 will shine through
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I wonder if the themes for GoLauncher will take care of the dialer issue?
sUpErwHoO said:
i've tried the cm7 2.3.7 but it felt like there was something holding the phone back, plus battery was heating up like crazy.
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check your email settings if you set that up. Mine got real hot and battery drained like crazy because it was set to retrieve every 15 minutes and I was in a place with sh*tty reception. Put those 2 together and your battery won't last long. I set my email for every hour. I also don't have any social sites setup on the phone as I don't use them (T, FB). Also try battery defender app.

[Q] Xperia Arc S performance advice

So I'm stuck in a contract with my Xperia Arc S until next year but it has virtually ground to a halt. I have to wait 10+ seconds for my messages to open on a good day. Every app takes a long time to do anything and I've had to limit my app usage heavily due to this.
I close all non-essential apps through the Manage Applications option of the Settings regularly and still I only really have approx >20 MB RAM left at any point.
I also delete all my messages regularly and don't use any other message applications aside from the stock app.
I'm not running ICS, but rather the original Ginger Bread that came with the phone.
I've tried using a different Home Launcher app to reduce the number of home screens, but it had very little noticeable impact.
My question is what do I do? I'm happy to root, install custom roms etc at this point, I just want my phone to be useable until I upgrade next year.
I have some experience with Android phones but very little technical knowledge to do with hacking/rooting devices so you'll have to bear with me. Any advice will be much appreciated.
Cheers

If you are a casual user and you don't need high performance, I recommend upgrading to ICS. ICS update hasn't got the best performance (in fact the GPU is slower than in GB), but you'll get enough free memory for casual usage.
If you are looking a bit of both, I recommend either using CM or CM based roms. If you got used to Xperia look and feel, put this ROM, for better battery life put stock CM. But beware, unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty, so if you think that you will run into issues and can't fix them yourself, do not unlock it.

I've no experience with Ginger Bread, but maybe clearing app cache and rebooting the phone every one or two days could help?
If the performance once was better and you don't want to root: save your apps, messages and contacts and do a factory reset.

stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.

kaz93 said:
stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.
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This
Or try to install some custom rom, they have previusly removed all useless stuff.

I upgraded to ICS to give it a go before I did a factory reset, and I'm really surprised to say my phone has never been faster. Managed to unlock a lot more RAM, app management seems to be a lot less stunted and easier to implement. A few more stock apps than GB and I prefer the look. I'm a bit confused at all the posts saying ICS is worse. Maybe it will slow down over time, but just right now I feel like I got a new phone.

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I upgraded to ICS to give it a go before I did a factory reset, and I'm really surprised to say my phone has never been faster. Managed to unlock a lot more RAM, app management seems to be a lot less stunted and easier to implement. A few more stock apps than GB and I prefer the look. I'm a bit confused at all the posts saying ICS is worse. Maybe it will slow down over time, but just right now I feel like I got a new phone.
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If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.

Someguyfromhell said:
If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.
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....all this bugs(and many others) are fixed now
Inviato da me!

Someguyfromhell said:
If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.
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Compared to how my phone was the phone pad is lightning fast. I haven't actually noticed the LED thing but now that you mention it. Of course I'm aware of the CPU issues and other stuff, but I've spent the last few months getting really miffed at my phone because it was basically an expensive brick which took years to open a message and the really negative consensus about ICS put me off updating which has solved all my casual user issues.
Now that I know about this site, I'm going to get to know Android a bit better, but for now the tiny details are negligible for me at least.

Just checked my LED and it works fine for all the notifications I receive.

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stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.
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Greenify is for HoneyComb and above... You can't install it on GB.

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Greenify is for HoneyComb and above... You can't install it on GB.
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Oh, okay, my mistake then..sorry

Fake 4 GB of RAM or am I doing something wrong?

Hi everyone, I'm new here, and this is my first post.
Unnecessary Information:
I'm not actually new to this site, since I've got huge amounts of help in the past thanks to the guys here. I am creating this thread because I looked up on these forums and couldn't find a post about my concern.
You see, I'm a Zenfone 2 64GB/4GB 551ML owner and I'am pretty happy with it. The bloatware was not a big deal to me since it can be removed easily, and some ZenUI apps are quite nice though. Sometimes, I wish ZenUI was a little bit more alike to pure Lollipop in terms of UI and UX with those smooth and beautiful animations included, but anyway, that's not the point of this thread.
Actual post:
I am here to ask any of you, ZF 2 owers if you have experienced disappointment when it comes to performance of this cheap little monster. This phone is amazingly fast (for the price) and smooth (most of the time) but there's something that bugs me quite a bit: those so-called 4 GB of RAM seem to be non-existant. I mean, come on! Zenfone 2, you have 4 GB or RAM, behave like so!
When I finally let go my anxiousness of having about 2 GB or free RAM at max (I might yet flash CM 12.1 or something to remove some bloatware apps completely to ensure I get 2.5 3 GB of free RAM), I notice this guy does not keep apps on RAM cache, I have like 3 open apps and when I open a fourth one and get back to the first one BOOM!, the cachè clears itself and have to open it again. It is not actually a big deal since it takes about 2 seconds or less to open the app again from the Recents screen but COME ON!! You have 4 GB for usage!!
I watched a video on Youtube of a dude testing the ZF2 endurance and it kept open like 5 games, kinda heavy games like GTA San Andreas, Nova and some Zombie ones of which I forgot the names. I even noticed the RAM management was better on Performance Mode but even then, it doesn't keep many apps open, more than 6 apps open mean one of the apps must be opened again. :s
Question:
So, is this a common problem? Am I the only one? Is this not a problem?
Thank you in advance. Regards!

It's probably auto start manager cleaning up apps

Yes this is annoying, auto start manager closes apps that are not set to "auto start". To fix this you either set the apps you want to keep in the background to "auto start" or disable (freeze) the auto start manager.
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Interesting...
Thank you for your replies.
I'm gonna test it today if it is the problem and post an update about it.