Hi guys,
I want to share my solution for fixing the LAG. I tested it on 2 phones and you get rid of 80-90% of the LAG in some easy steps:
replace TwLauncher with LauncherPro
if you use Beautiful Widgets install latest update (3.23) - don't check 'Refresh on wake',
go to Settings->Applications and filter to select all running applications
go to Market and clear cache and after that Force Close (several times )
go to Market Updater and Force Close (several times )
go to Samsung Task Manager, RAM Manag and run a Level 2 RAM clear
My phone is running very smooth for a week now. I have 102 apps and counting. Just an occasional lag, but for a very very short time. Once a day at most.
Samsung Task Manager, sound like you are using Froyo.
Does it work on Eclair?
CWKJ said:
Samsung Task Manager, sound like you are using Froyo.
Does it work on Eclair?
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Its as useless lag solution as it gets. Nothing in this has anything to do with lag on our phones.
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Its as useless lag solution as it gets. Nothing in this has anything to do with lag on our phones.
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Agree, the steps above wont solve any lag issue even if its related to having low free mem, zero difference.. nothing.. zilch!
I'm using Eclair with Samsung task Manager from Samsung Apps.
My phone was lagging a lot. There were moments when I just [email protected]#[email protected]$#@ But this is how I got rid of most of the lag. My guess is that maybe it has something to do with the Market. I don't know, but definitely I'm not lying.
In my opinion the problem is not memory related. My wife's phone (just 20 apps installed) always has 100+ MB free memory and still had lag. With this "fix" the problem is almost gone.
You should not clear RAM.
It will empty your ram and clear all running program, so you will have a lot of free ram.
Lot of free ram means WASTED ram!
Linux systems are made to use all available ram and clear it when needed so if you empty it it will just be wasted.
ludovicianul said:
Hi guys,
I want to share my solution for fixing the LAG. I tested it on 2 phones and you get rid of 80-90% of the LAG in some easy steps:
replace TwLauncher with LauncherPro
if you use Beautiful Widgets install latest update (3.23) - don't check 'Refresh on wake',
go to Settings->Applications and filter to select all running applications
go to Market and clear cache and after that Force Close (several times )
go to Market Updater and Force Close (several times )
go to Samsung Task Manager, RAM Manag and run a Level 2 RAM clear
My phone is running very smooth for a week now. I have 102 apps and counting. Just an occasional lag, but for a very very short time. Once a day at most.
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No offence but this is complete rubbish
I know about RAM more than 90% of the persons on this forum. I just run that clear cache L2 ONCE.
If you think is rubbish, don't use it. My phone is running fine for a week with this stupid solution.
ludovicianul said:
I know about RAM more than 90% of the persons on this forum. I just run that clear cache L2 ONCE.
If you think is rubbish, don't use it. My phone is running fine for a week with this stupid solution.
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This is amusingly cute But this is not a "lag fix." It has been established hundreds of times that the "lag" is caused by Samsung's implementation of RFS. It is fixed by replacing the filesystem with something else. Nothing to do with free RAM.
Galaxy S has lots RAM so free RAM is generally not a problem. If it is, flashing one of the kernels with ~341MB of RAM will help notably (a lot better than this mucking around killing things).
Who said something about the RAM being the problem? I was just answering the angry guy who said that you shouldn't clear the RAM
I agree that the problem can be caused by the filesystem. I think that there are other causes too.
I'm not pretending that this is actually a FIX for the solution. I was just sharing my experience. My phone is running faster with these things that I've done. There'e a lot of people that are not willing to flash their phones to apply a lagfix. This can be a temporary solution for them.
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Who said something about the RAM being the problem? I was just answering the angry guy who said that you shouldn't clear the RAM
I agree that the problem can be caused by the filesystem. I think that there are other causes too.
I'm not pretending that this is actually a FIX for the solution. I was just sharing my experience. My phone is running faster with these things that I've done. There'e a lot of people that are not willing to flash their phones to apply a lagfix. This can be a temporary solution for them.
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Your thread title says otherwise. Anyways, like some other person has pointed out already this is rubbish.
Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.
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Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.
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I'm trying to be nice here, so please bear with me. We are not offended by your contributions, it is just that what you have written is not substantiated by facts. There is simply no correlation between what you have done to the elimination of the lag in the SGS.
It may have worked for you, and I'm not doubting that. But then again, I'm using hardcore optimized kernel and also the modded twlauncher. Right now, I don't even need to apply any lagfixes. User experience has been very satisfying.
It's actually the TouchWiz adding the RFS and the programming design itself causing the lag, I found one here by replacing the Touchwiz with tweak touchwiz and everything really good, I did the Voodoo the rest is history no more lags... I am using Push emails, Feedback for Facebook and Twitter, Beautiful widgets and I am not freeing RAM. It's really the skinning(touchwiz) causing problems with lag issues. Trust me
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Title changed. Probably it was not the most suitable title.
Anyway, don't like it, just ignore it. I don't understand why are people feeling so offended.
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Apologies if I sounded offended, I am not. However, you did come across as a bit pompous (claiming to know more about RAM etc) and at the same time offered a 'solution' which does nothing to fix the lag issue and is simply misleading at best. Even the changed thread title is still very arbitrary.
Users, especially new users, may stumble upon this 'solution' and it really won't help them (at least as far as the lag is concerned), so it helps to be accurate in providing possible solutions.
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It's actually the TouchWiz adding the RFS and the programming design itself causing the lag, I found one here by replacing the Touchwiz with tweak touchwiz and everything really good, I did the Voodoo the rest is history no more lags... I am using Push emails, Feedback for Facebook and Twitter, Beautiful widgets and I am not freeing RAM. It's really the skinning(touchwiz) causing problems with lag issues. Trust me
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Nice. But the lag seems to occur with alternative launchers as well and within apps.
Wel i def agree with running LP over TouchWiz.. I found it very laggy on JPO.. LP on the otherhand...Smooth as silk
Ok. Apologies to everyone
The title was wrong. This wasn't intended as a solution, but more like and info sharing
IMO the root cause of the lag fix is not necessarily RFS, but stupid Samsung software.
as always: if you don't know what you're doing, don't post it as a "fix" or general truth...
I've said it before and i'll say it again:
alcohol helps very well against a head each... but it's not a cure!
What we're trying to accomplish here, is a CURE...
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Ok. Apologies to everyone
The title was wrong. This wasn't intended as a solution, but more like and info sharing
IMO the root cause of the lag fix is not necessarily RFS, but stupid Samsung software.
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No problem. And thanks for your suggestions.
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Hi all,
This is my first post here.
I have flashed the InsertCoin stable ROM 03/06 and I have to say it's great (despite the video playback bug). Recently I found another issue that bothers me a lot.
The problem I found is that the ROM seems to be killing non-active apps too aggressively. I learnt if I press "home" button in an active app, it should stay for a while until it is killed to free up memory. However, in my phone, the non-active apps are always killed within one minute even when the phone isn't running out of memory. Why it is an issue to me? Because:
1) It is killing the browser too fast. Usually I switched to other app, do some work, and back to the browser. Since the browser is killed it has to reload the whole page to restore the state. This wastes time and data.
2) Most importantly It is killing my music app!! I tried fire up HTC's music app, select a song, tap to play, leave the app and do other things like web surfing. The music app would surely be killed in a minute. This happens to other music playing app like Winamp.
This makes my phone a relatively single tasking one. I didn't install any 3rd party task killer because I never needed one. But I cannot find any settings regarding this "feature" on my phone.
I found people in this forum seeking help on how to kill some background apps. What I want is the opposite: How to prevent some background apps to be killed.
Anyone here has similar problem and has found a solution?
Thanks in advance!
on 1.0.8 i had no problems
on v45 (which is last 2D Rose version) you need to flash pre46test.zip in order to fix agressive app killing.
other than that i never heard of any complaints regarding apps being killed too quickly.
Thanks, dzumagos. Yes I am running 1.0.8 and unfortunately this happens on my phone
Maybe I'll try flashing the nightly version (v51) to see if things improve.
Whatever you do, don't use task managers and other memory scripts. Every developer makes his own memory parameters which suit his rom the best, so I think you are best off pointing baadnwz to this issue and see what he says.
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Whatever you do, don't use task managers and other memory scripts. Every developer makes his own memory parameters which suit his rom the best, so I think you are best off pointing baadnwz to this issue and see what he says.
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The ROM has HTC's ROM manager built in, and I didn't have any installed by myself. AFAIK the only difference between the Stable and Nightly version is the Rosie 3D homescreen that is missing in the Stable version, so I flashed 1.0.9 and unfortunately the problem persists.
And looks like I'm not eligible to ask on the development thread
When I got my Tmo gs3 at the launch, it was blazing fast with no lag, maybe an occasional hiccup, and that was completely stock with all of my apps installed. I've been on FreeGS3 & stock kernel for about a month now & I'm starting to see quite a bit of lag in the home screens, opening apps, and especially in the SwiftKey keyboard which has always been extremely responsive in the past? I use the SClean feature that's an add on for the rom to optimize the memory & keep it cleaned up. I also have cleaned cache & dalvik regularly. The first few weeks I ran the rom I had no issues what so ever, so I don't believe the rom is the issue. I check my ram regularly and there's plenty free, and I often close apps that I'm not using. If anyone else has experienced this and has any idea of what's possibly causing it, please share your thoughts. Also, anyone who may have any suggestions or input. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to respond.
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When I got my Tmo gs3 at the launch, it was blazing fast with no lag, maybe an occasional hiccup, and that was completely stock with all of my apps installed. I've been on FreeGS3 & stock kernel for about a month now & I'm starting to see quite a bit of lag in the home screens, opening apps, and especially in the SwiftKey keyboard which has always been extremely responsive in the past? I use the SClean feature that's an add on for the rom to optimize the memory & keep it cleaned up. I also have cleaned cache & dalvik regularly. The first few weeks I ran the rom I had no issues what so ever, so I don't believe the rom is the issue. I check my ram regularly and there's plenty free, and I often close apps that I'm not using. If anyone else has experienced this and has any idea of what's possibly causing it, please share your thoughts. Also, anyone who may have any suggestions or input. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to respond.
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Every time you free up ram you are erasing apps that the phone has put In memory so next time they open fast. Once you clear ram the next time you open the same app it will take longer and might be a little laggy
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I'm having a similar issue. Also running sclean which helps with the keyboard lag but it comes back. I ran sd maid and had a ton if duplicate files. Not sure what's going in but it's driving me nuts.
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RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care
Crisisx1 said:
Every time you free up ram you are erasing apps that the phone has put In memory so next time they open fast. Once you clear ram the next time you open the same app it will take longer and might be a little laggy
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I understand, but I'm not clearing the ram, just simply closing apps when I'm finished with them such as Facebook, browser, YouTube, etc. I never dump the ram, as it kills battery, and the ram is holding commonly used apps in order to start them faster.
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RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care
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I appreciate your link, as communicating via Internet it's difficult to know how much each other understands. However, I'm familiar with ram & its purpose, and I've checked all of the obvious possibilities, and I'm sure that it's not related to user error. I suppose the only thing I can do is try flashing a different rom, or return to stock. If the problem isn't present, I can maybe try reflashing freegs3. I appreciate those that have taken the time to respond.
I know that's maybe a noob question but my phone had never been so slow and i don't know why is doing this..
I'm having some serious problem with my phone on every ROM that i try with Jelly Bean. I've tried stock, Linaro, Paranoid Android, Minco...but every rom behave the same. My phone it's really slow, can't load anything without lagging. I've also tried different kernel, obviously. I've made a video to explain this behaviour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48V93aSq9Z0
I don't know if it's just an old phone that needs to be replaced by the new nexus but..i remember that i was doing great with Jelly Bean; about that time i remember that i was surprised for performance improvements after ICS. I've tried to cut of all the sync applications (Currents first of all..) and tried to reduce apps to a minimum but i still got this lag. It's very annoying cause it happens every 5 mintues and i can barely use my phone.
You probably have a ****load of services running.
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Actually for some reason I have been experiencing the same thing the past couple days and I watch my running services and apps like a hawk.
Nothing unusual, installed an app or two in that time frame and uninstalled again - nothing changed.
Looked at BBS logs and also nothing out of the ordinary. Something funky is going on for sure.
I am still convinced there is a memory leak in the UI somewhere since my "free memory" after a few days dwindles down to sometimes even under 100MB which I feel uncomfortable with.
After a fresh restart it sits over 300MB free and before this lag became more apparent it would always tune in around 200MB after a few days.
Now I restart every day, sometimes more than once a day just keep performance somewhat decent.
There's a memory leak in 4.2.x. Unless you restart your phone daily you'll get it. Try a 4.1.2 rom, it's Jellybean, but quick again.
no leaks here 4.2.2 axiom and rootbox
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There's a memory leak in 4.2.x. Unless you restart your phone daily you'll get it. Try a 4.1.2 rom, it's Jellybean, but quick again.
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Rebooting the phone twice in a day fixed this issue for me , Also an Startup manager app to unload all **** apps that eats the ram
yep, i think that everyone is experiencing lag on 4.2.x roms... JB had never been so fast like 4.1...
There are plenty of thread with people complaining about this
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yep, i think that everyone is experiencing lag on 4.2.x roms... JB had never been so fast like 4.1...
There are plenty of thread with people complaining about this
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not me
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
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O_0 ! ! 0_o!
Godra said:
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
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This.
Try greenify. Greenify some apps that are taking a lot of ram. If you have Facebook make sure you greenify that. It takes a hell lotta memory
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So I'm stuck in a contract with my Xperia Arc S until next year but it has virtually ground to a halt. I have to wait 10+ seconds for my messages to open on a good day. Every app takes a long time to do anything and I've had to limit my app usage heavily due to this.
I close all non-essential apps through the Manage Applications option of the Settings regularly and still I only really have approx >20 MB RAM left at any point.
I also delete all my messages regularly and don't use any other message applications aside from the stock app.
I'm not running ICS, but rather the original Ginger Bread that came with the phone.
I've tried using a different Home Launcher app to reduce the number of home screens, but it had very little noticeable impact.
My question is what do I do? I'm happy to root, install custom roms etc at this point, I just want my phone to be useable until I upgrade next year.
I have some experience with Android phones but very little technical knowledge to do with hacking/rooting devices so you'll have to bear with me. Any advice will be much appreciated.
Cheers
If you are a casual user and you don't need high performance, I recommend upgrading to ICS. ICS update hasn't got the best performance (in fact the GPU is slower than in GB), but you'll get enough free memory for casual usage.
If you are looking a bit of both, I recommend either using CM or CM based roms. If you got used to Xperia look and feel, put this ROM, for better battery life put stock CM. But beware, unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty, so if you think that you will run into issues and can't fix them yourself, do not unlock it.
I've no experience with Ginger Bread, but maybe clearing app cache and rebooting the phone every one or two days could help?
If the performance once was better and you don't want to root: save your apps, messages and contacts and do a factory reset.
stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.
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stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.
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Or try to install some custom rom, they have previusly removed all useless stuff.
I upgraded to ICS to give it a go before I did a factory reset, and I'm really surprised to say my phone has never been faster. Managed to unlock a lot more RAM, app management seems to be a lot less stunted and easier to implement. A few more stock apps than GB and I prefer the look. I'm a bit confused at all the posts saying ICS is worse. Maybe it will slow down over time, but just right now I feel like I got a new phone.
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I upgraded to ICS to give it a go before I did a factory reset, and I'm really surprised to say my phone has never been faster. Managed to unlock a lot more RAM, app management seems to be a lot less stunted and easier to implement. A few more stock apps than GB and I prefer the look. I'm a bit confused at all the posts saying ICS is worse. Maybe it will slow down over time, but just right now I feel like I got a new phone.
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If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.
Someguyfromhell said:
If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.
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....all this bugs(and many others) are fixed now
Inviato da me!
Someguyfromhell said:
If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.
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Compared to how my phone was the phone pad is lightning fast. I haven't actually noticed the LED thing but now that you mention it. Of course I'm aware of the CPU issues and other stuff, but I've spent the last few months getting really miffed at my phone because it was basically an expensive brick which took years to open a message and the really negative consensus about ICS put me off updating which has solved all my casual user issues.
Now that I know about this site, I'm going to get to know Android a bit better, but for now the tiny details are negligible for me at least.
Just checked my LED and it works fine for all the notifications I receive.
kaz93 said:
stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.
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Greenify is for HoneyComb and above... You can't install it on GB.
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Greenify is for HoneyComb and above... You can't install it on GB.
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Oh, okay, my mistake then..sorry
Hi everyone, I'm new here, and this is my first post.
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I'm not actually new to this site, since I've got huge amounts of help in the past thanks to the guys here. I am creating this thread because I looked up on these forums and couldn't find a post about my concern.
You see, I'm a Zenfone 2 64GB/4GB 551ML owner and I'am pretty happy with it. The bloatware was not a big deal to me since it can be removed easily, and some ZenUI apps are quite nice though. Sometimes, I wish ZenUI was a little bit more alike to pure Lollipop in terms of UI and UX with those smooth and beautiful animations included, but anyway, that's not the point of this thread.
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I am here to ask any of you, ZF 2 owers if you have experienced disappointment when it comes to performance of this cheap little monster. This phone is amazingly fast (for the price) and smooth (most of the time) but there's something that bugs me quite a bit: those so-called 4 GB of RAM seem to be non-existant. I mean, come on! Zenfone 2, you have 4 GB or RAM, behave like so!
When I finally let go my anxiousness of having about 2 GB or free RAM at max (I might yet flash CM 12.1 or something to remove some bloatware apps completely to ensure I get 2.5 3 GB of free RAM), I notice this guy does not keep apps on RAM cache, I have like 3 open apps and when I open a fourth one and get back to the first one BOOM!, the cachè clears itself and have to open it again. It is not actually a big deal since it takes about 2 seconds or less to open the app again from the Recents screen but COME ON!! You have 4 GB for usage!!
I watched a video on Youtube of a dude testing the ZF2 endurance and it kept open like 5 games, kinda heavy games like GTA San Andreas, Nova and some Zombie ones of which I forgot the names. I even noticed the RAM management was better on Performance Mode but even then, it doesn't keep many apps open, more than 6 apps open mean one of the apps must be opened again. :s
Question:
So, is this a common problem? Am I the only one? Is this not a problem?
Thank you in advance. Regards!
It's probably auto start manager cleaning up apps
Yes this is annoying, auto start manager closes apps that are not set to "auto start". To fix this you either set the apps you want to keep in the background to "auto start" or disable (freeze) the auto start manager.
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Interesting...
Thank you for your replies.
I'm gonna test it today if it is the problem and post an update about it.