[Q] Open Sense SDK released what exactly is this? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Well basically is this SDK helpful for us with our sense 4 devices or only for the devices that already have sense 4 on them?
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/ope...utm_medium=Tweet&utm_campaign=sense4apilaunch

It allows development of apks which can be integrated with the Sense interface.

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Hi all,
I don't know if this is the right place to post or not, but what IDEs do you guys use to develop software for windows mobile 6? I'm using Visual Studio 2010 beta because I don't want to pay for VS, but it doesn't like the WM6 SDK. I found that SharpDevelop3 works just fine if you write compact framework apps, but I can't find the info to write apps that use the radio/gps/g-sensor etc.
Are there any developers out there that could point me in the right direction? I'm willing to help out if you have a project you are getting stuck with. I've been working mainly with Basic and C#, but I'd like to expand.
VS2008. The radio/gps/g-sensor stuff isn't included in the .NET framework, so you'll need to find external libraries for working with them.

How HTC developed Sense UI

I was wondering how HTC has created Sense UI?
I would like to code some apps with a "modern" UI, so custom buttons, ... like the controls we can see in Sense.
On one side, I have a Silvermoon-like solution, using .NET and OpenGL. But in this case, I lost the design time features (i.e. rendering the control when I drop it on a form in Visual Studio).
I guess HTC has developed Sense in native. I have some knowledge in Win32 and I'm not too bad in C/C++ programming. But I'm wondering how you develop custom controls in native? Can you benefit from some design-time rendering? Any information about how Sense is coded and native controls programming is welcome...
Edit: for example, the Sense buttons, are they using images or custom drawing?
I don't know anything about the way Sense was developed but native control programming doesn't allow design-time rendering. You have to create your own controls during runtime. So for example if you want to have something like the tabs in TF3D then you have to take a native tab control and overwrite the paint method to draw the background and add pictures on it, manage finger gestures to switch tabs etc. Something along that way. I usually prefer native Win32 programming but if you're doing such GUI things and need a quick solution it might be better using an already existing .NET library, like i.e. the mentioned Silvermoon.
Manila SDK
Hello,
Search ManilaSDK in this forum. It's a set of .net controls that fit Manila looking. On my side, I'm trying to develop another set of controls that will be more "skinnable"
Kridek said:
Hello,
Search ManilaSDK in this forum. It's a set of .net controls that fit Manila looking. On my side, I'm trying to develop another set of controls that will be more "skinnable"
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i think he's talkin about htc sense on android, not on wm!
screw-you-guys said:
i think he's talkin about htc sense on android, not on wm!
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and thats why he went into the windows development thread and not the android thread ?
He means WM of course
i heard that sense is written in lua as is tf3d

Silverlight 4 Likely as Dev Platform

Given Andy Lees quote about WP7: "It's a very sort of advanced platform that really works across PC, phone, and console," it seems likely he's talking about Silverlight 4, especially given the boost in features that it's getting for version 4. I find this to be a very suitable platform for what they're trying to do. You can't beat multi-platform & RIA support - dev once, run on all. What do you think?
Still very propretiary
chribruu said:
Still very propretiary
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So what? All current phones only support native applications that are created with a proprietary SDK. The big exception is Java which is executed in a VM, but these applications cannot use the full potential of each platform, because they must aim for the lowest common denominator. So without modifications, no native application will run on all platforms.
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Still very propretiary
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It's not any different than the current situation really. How many people write WM code in anything other than Visual Studio?
Basically a different set of GUI libraries on .Net 3.5.
Hope they'll make SL4 available on WM6.5, too. That way it would be a much better platform choice.
You're all right. I replied without really thinking my post trough. :/
The only thing bad with SL (and flash) is if/when they become web "standards".
Just disregard that post
Sorry for the OT.
from the little i have read/seen. it seems like this will prob be the case..
Silverlight will be one of the dev platforms, along with C++ with a XAML UI.
in this video
"Behind the Design of Windows phone 7" on youtube (i could not post the link)
1:25 - 1:29
you can see the ide for wp7.
it looks like blend. that would definitely mean xaml for ui.
pensoffsky said:
in this video
"Behind the Design of Windows phone 7" on youtube (i could not post the link)
1:25 - 1:29
you can see the ide for wp7.
it looks like blend. that would definitely mean xaml for ui.
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And as I said, C++ with a XAML UI...
XNA C#, no dubt for the games.
It's available for the Zune HD, I guess it will follow on to WP7
But maby not for the UI?? any thoughts?
From XNA.com :
XNA Game Studio 3.1 Zune Extensions, to support Zune HD, adds the following functionality to the product:
The ability to target and develop for the Zune HD media player.
The addition of new Touch APIs to the XNA Framework for use on the Zune HD.
The addition of new Accelerometer APIs to the XNA Framework for use on the Zune HD.
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I don't really believe, that they'll be using an unmanaged language for the application developement itself (other than drivers of course).
I think it would be most likely to be using C#, perhaps more in the way of how most android apps use java, e.g. it's precompiled on deployment.
What I really hope for is that, there is no longer the limitation of 32 mb per process.

WP7 + Sense

If HD 2 will be upgradable with WM 7 htc sense will work? or dissapear?
No, no, and not disappear but will continue on with other Mobile OS's such as Android.
shame...can u imagine that HTC rework the Sense to combine with WP7 ...dream...
They won't be able to - at least for now, as Microsoft currently does not allow it, as in: does not provide any APIs for even doing so.
This is not just Sense but all System-UI Changes.

Possible to run WM 6.5 / XP / IOS / WP7 on DHD?

Is it possible to run any of these systems on our phone?
especialy WP7 / WM 6.5
in theory: probably yes
but: neither is open source, thus it'll be rather difficult to port them to any device that they aren't ment for, plus, you'd need a license to run these operating systems on your phone and you probably won't get one
alltogether: no, I am not aware of it being possible to run any of these operating systems on an Desire HD
llama-power said:
in theory: probably yes
but: neither is open source, thus it'll be rather difficult to port them to any device that they aren't ment for, plus, you'd need a license to run these operating systems on your phone and you probably won't get one
alltogether: no, I am not aware of it being possible to run any of these operating systems on an Desire HD
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agreed with you.
but you can flash linux ubuntu on dhd as it's free.
and honeycomb too (but still in devolepment) ported in dhd.
It is impossible so far I think.
Theirs a Windows Phone 7 launcher in the android market, You can check that out if you like it. Havent tried it myself yet.

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