basically i just purchased a dash, i will be replacing the screen as soon as the parts come in, i ordered a new back plate, and will be purchasing new housing as soon as i get everything else fixed. i do need to unlock it for att, and i would like your guy's opinion on how to make this the most badass dash ever. im ive had wimo phones before, but i was younger and didnt really take care of em, not the case anymore.
plz help. and plz tell me the easiest way to unlock the total phone (sin, cid, and everything)
i thank everyone in advance, and i know this has been posted before, but i would like to know the easiest ways to do all of this, thanks guys.
I just did this, myself. Broken LCD, and all. It's a fun project!
I have found that the *easiest* way to do a SIM unlock, is to pay a vendor to generate an unlock code for you. In fact, there's a user on this forum who offers unlock codes, for a modest fee. Jockey.
The *cheapest* way to do a SIM unlock, is to appeal to TMobile, and have them issue you an unlock code for free. I am also on ATT, and TMobile unlocked my phone...but I am wholly unable to get TMobile service in my area, so this may have been a special case. YMMV
The other forms of unlocking are free...CID and app. Just use this forum's search feature, and you'll find them in no time.
I also found a whole housing available from a Chinese retailer site. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15829 Hopefully this doesn't violate any forum rules, but it could be a useful link for the forum members.
Hope this helps you get started.
Chuck
thanks for that, it was very helpful and did kinda give me a confidence boost.
can u tell me how to set up the phone so i can use att internet, or will it automatically set its self up?
whats your fave rom?
and thanks, ima probably pick up that housing after i get the cradle
and what does sid and app unlock actually do?...
well thanks again, cant wait till my screen arrives
bigboibbp said:
thanks for that, it was very helpful and did kinda give me a confidence boost.
can u tell me how to set up the phone so i can use att internet, or will it automatically set its self up?
whats your fave rom?
and thanks, ima probably pick up that housing after i get the cradle
and what does sid and app unlock actually do?...
well thanks again, cant wait till my screen arrives
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You have to app unlock if you want to flash a different rom and use third party apps, cid/sim unlock is if you want to use a different carrier besides tmobile.
roloracer said:
You have to app unlock if you want to flash a different rom and use third party apps, cid/sim unlock is if you want to use a different carrier besides tmobile.
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kool... thanks.
any advice on what rom to use?
cool tweaks and apps?
bigboibbp said:
kool... thanks.
any advice on what rom to use?
cool tweaks and apps?
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Test all the ROMs wont take 15 mins each to get set up as base, the choice is personal and you will find the ROM you like, there are threads about the apps we use & tweaks, please use the search & take a look @ the WIKI
Also many site can be found via Google with smartphone app's.
How long does it usually take after release for a developer to come up with a way to root without unlocking the bootloader? From my understanding, this would make it easier to claim warranty since your IMEI is not registered with HTC as unlocked, so if your phone were partially softbricked you can send it in and cover any tracks of a root. Feel free to correct me if everything I said is BS
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by usually, I mean in the past with other HTC phones
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after some digging I came across a dev who is actively working on this. For anyone else who's wondering, check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576844&highlight=one+x&page=10
What your asking cant be answered, its like asking how long is a piece of string. It will take as long as it takes and it is possible that it may never be done.
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edit 2:
after some digging I came across a dev who is actively working on this. For anyone else who's wondering, check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576844&highlight=one+x&page=10
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If only you had done that first!
Hi Techie folks!
All right, hopefully everyone would excuse any blunders made by a noob but this is my dilemma.
This is my first, and most assuredly not my last, post on this quite interesting platform.
I had recently purchased a device (Google Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 Android Smartphone 16Gb) which was supposedly 'unlocked' from an online store (Expansys USA) out here in the US.
I bought it outright for $409.99
Link: http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-prime-android-smartphone-unlocked-16gb-224148/
I had received that device without any issues and had been using it for over three weeks.
I have the StraightTalk (USA) GSM SIM on it and like I mentioned, no issues whatsoever was faced during daily day-to-day use.
However, yesterday for the first time, I noticed that the network was not connecting and so I rebooted the phone thinking it was some network error.
Now when I did that I received a message after the boot-up which stated 'SIM Network Unlock Pin' and the options were to enter the PIN or dismiss that.
When I dismissed the message notification, I found out that the network was not available.
But the other features of the phone was not affected, as in navigating through the phone and applications (non-internet based) was without an problems.
Just that the network was not connecting although I observed that I could make emergency calls.
So I tried rebooting it again, by taking out the battery and SIM card as well, the issue still persisted.
So I started to troubleshoot the issue, by inserting in another GSM SIM card into the phone, but found the issue to persisting.
To double-check, I took out my StraightTalk SIM card and put in another phone, the SIM card was working fine! :good:
Just to be on the safe side, I called StraightTalk Customer Support and had asked them for some clarification as to why this SIM Network Unlock PIN was shown.
They suggested that this was the phone issue and needed to be sorted out by the place of purchase/manufacturer.
I even tried entering the SIM card's PUK code but did not reach far in that regard.
On searching the net (which is why I had come here for proper support and answers), I had found quite a lot issues with regard to this problem.
I was under the assumption that this phone was the GSM Unlocked International Version, but after this incident, it so happens that this is not the case.
The solution given online and out here is to root the phone using the Wugfresh method and after rooting, run the device with the application (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548210) which would take care of this issue.
However, I am not too keen on voiding my warranty on this account, and also the steps are quite complicated with respect to rooting the device.
Yes I am noob! So please don't roll your eyes!
This is the issue, and now to what I would appreciate this forum's assistance.
Being an expensive product, I dont want to buy another one just because of this issue.
I do not know where this phone is purchased from, which means, I have no idea which network provider this is locked to.
I can only provide the IMEI number.
Question 1: Is it possible to find out to which network this phone is locked to?
I have to add that the phone does not have any network branding on it, nor does it show any during the boot-up process.
Question 2: Can the phone be unlocked with online unlocking sites?
Question 3: If so, can someone provide me any good sites that can unlock the device.
Is this site any good? Link: http://www.unlockallcellular.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-unlock-code-p-196144.html
Like I said, worse case scenario, I would indeed have to root my phone and proceed to install that software which will help me get rid of this issue once and for all.
As you all can see, I'm desperately looking for some solutions/answers and would appreciate it if someone would shed any light to this issue.
PS: I do know that there are threads on this issue, but mine is more or less around finding the invisible network provider that this phone is locked to.
Best Regards,
Reena Johnson
Your device was not factory SIM-unlocked. The vendor probably unlocked it using a code. That said, you should call Expansys and ask them for the code.
Otherwise, you can take a look at the following two threads. The first one is easy, but temporary -- in other words, you will need to do unlock every time you flash a new ROM. The second is permanent, but not as straight-forward to accomplish.
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548210
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606982
Further queries now arise ....
efrant said:
Your device was not factory SIM-unlocked. The vendor probably unlocked it using a code. That said, you should call Expansys and ask them for the code.
Otherwise, you can take a look at the following two threads. The first one is easy, but temporary -- in other words, you will need to do unlock every time you flash a new ROM. The second is permanent, but not as straight-forward to accomplish.
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548210
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606982
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Thanks a lot for the quick reply.
Wow! You guys are fast!
Much appreciated.
Now I have a query. The option 1 which you have stated, is the one which I have looked at.
Even that requires me to root my phone.
Isn't it so?
Cause the OP in that thread specifically mentions the need to root the phone.
I have asked Expansys USA for that code, and since Saturday/Sunday is off for them, I am hoping to get a reply from them on Monday.
Like I said, my main concern is that I would like this process to be hassle free.
You guys (no-offence intended for the male demographic) are quite capable of rooting the phone.
Unfortunately, I wish not to choose that route, unless no options are left available at my disposal.
Which is why I am bending towards the easy unlocking method.
So my next question really is since its (read: the phone) not a factory SIM-unlockedissue, can I find the original network provider to which this phone was locked to?
As in, is there any where on this device which can tell me that information?
Once again, I sincerely thank you for your support and assistance in my life a lot easier! :victory:
Regards,
Reena J
djjohnson said:
Thanks a lot for the quick reply.
Wow! You guys are fast!
Much appreciated.
Now I have a query. The option 1 which you have stated, is the one which I have looked at.
Even that requires me to root my phone.
Isn't it so?
Cause the OP in that thread specifically mentions the need to root the phone.
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Yes, you are right it does require root. (I didn't realize that it was the link you had looked at and mentioned in your post.)
djjohnson said:
I have asked Expansys USA for that code, and since Saturday/Sunday is off for them, I am hoping to get a reply from them on Monday.
Like I said, my main concern is that I would like this process to be hassle free.
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Probably best to wait until Monday then, as that would certainly be the most hassle-free option.
djjohnson said:
You guys (no-offence intended for the male demographic) are quite capable of rooting the phone.
Unfortunately, I wish not to choose that route, unless no options are left available at my disposal.
Which is why I am bending towards the easy unlocking method.
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Believe it or not, "rooting" a Nexus device is extremely easy, and should not take more than 5 minutes. The part the takes the most time is to make sure the drivers are set up properly on your PC... Once that is done, no more than a few minutes is all it takes.
djjohnson said:
So my next question really is since its (read: the phone) not a factory SIM-unlockedissue, can I find the original network provider to which this phone was locked to?
As in, is there any where on this device which can tell me that information?
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Yes, there is a way, although I believe you need root, although I could be wrong here. You need to post this file from your device: /factory/mps_code.dat and someone will be able to tell you. Or you can look in that file and compare the code in there to this list.
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Question 2: Can the phone be unlocked with online unlocking sites?
Question 3: If so, can someone provide me any good sites that can unlock the device.
Is this site any good? Link: http://www.unlockallcellular.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-unlock-code-p-196144.html
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And yeah, you should be able to get it unlocked by one of those site, even the one you mentioned. But I can't vouch for it, nor can I recommend any site, as I have never used any.
Hey djjohnson
I've got the exact same problem, but bought my phone from a different seller.
Did you manage to get any information (or PIN) from expansys??
Thymine said:
Hey djjohnson
I've got the exact same problem, but bought my phone from a different seller.
Did you manage to get any information (or PIN) from expansys??
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It looks like OP disappeared after getting his issue solved. Expansys has great customer service and would have exchanged the phone with no problems. Which retailer did you get it from? There are unlocking sites out there but you have to know which network its locked to. Or root it and try the methods listed in this thread. GL
Cheers mate,
I bought mine from an ebay seller and have already sent them a message asking for either the PIN or the name of the original service provider.
If that falls through, I'll have no other option but to root....or just be the first of my friends to not have a phone number and live exclusively on the internet...
I'll probably root.
A delayed update ...
Techies folks!
This is just to update you guys on this issue and if in future any one else faces such similar issue just do this and get back your peace of mind.
First you need to root your phone as mentioned by Efrant and it is indeed a simple process once you have set up the required drivers.
Once again thanks a lot Efrant for your support and time in helping me out with this.
:good:
First you need to root your phone, period.
I tried all methods before diving into this method.
Rooting isn't complicated and all it takes is patience and the exact details to get this done.
What I am about to suggest is to be taken at the reader's risk and I am not responsible for any damage done to your phone.
That being said, I highly doubt that anything will go wrong unless you arent used to following instructions!
My Nexus was magically locked to an invisible network and you guys can find that out by going into fastboot mode.
What that means is to turn your device off and then press the buttons together (volume Up + volume Down + Power), you will get that info under the "baseband version" and "carrier info".
I could not resort to the online unlocking sites because ALL of them require the original network to unlock the phone.
I suggest that you root the phone and it is quite simple not taking you longer than 10-20 minutes.
1) First you will need to install the drivers onto your phone from your computer which you will need during the rooting process.
You can get that from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20058157&postcount=1
It is called the Universal Naked Driver 0.7.
The download instructions are given in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29044502&postcount=735
The OP was quite comprehensive in providing the exact details in what needed to be done. So once you have installed the necessary drivers proceed to the next step.
2) Download Wugfresh Toolkit which is the main tool needed to root your phone.
First you will need to unlock your phone and then root it.
The beauty of this software is that everything is on it. Just click on the Unlock button first and then you just have to sit back and wait for the magic to happen.
The instructions on the screen will tell you what its doing.
I would suggest reading through the entire process before going through with this.
http://www.wugfresh.com/dev/nexus-root-toolkit/
Extra material on this http://wugfresh.com/Help/
3) Once you have rooted your phone, the hardest bit is over. Then all you need to do is install this application on your device. And run it.
Simple.
You have yourself an unlocked phone!! :victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548210
There will be questions as to if this will work in CDMA or GSM versions.
I got mine from Expansys and it was supposed to be an unlocked GSM model.
I hope that will help as it did with mine.
Actually I got my bf to do this for me as it is a tad bit complicated and it was a birthday gift from him.
mendezj666 said:
It looks like OP disappeared after getting his issue solved. Expansys has great customer service and would have exchanged the phone with no problems.
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Wow!
I seriously didn't realize that I had a personal assistant or the CIA to track my moves!
I apologize if my bf didnt get back to you guys on this issue. I, on the other hand, have work which consumes 12hrs of my day.
So I really do not have the time to post a reply.
But hey! a simple 'I dont know where SHE is, but here's what I can do to help you out' would have sufficed.
I'm just saying. No offense intended mate.
By the way, I'm a girl, and in my opinion Expansys came highly recommended to me by all my co-workers.
But I had the most horrible customer support ever!
My personal opinion would be to NOT buy from there!
Get from Negri's or some place better.
God knows how many times I had tried calling them. Even tried sending them tons of emails and not even one peek into my issue.
Goes to show how "great" of a customer service they have!
Thymine said:
Hey djjohnson
I've got the exact same problem, but bought my phone from a different seller.
Did you manage to get any information (or PIN) from expansys??
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I hope my post will help you also to resolve your issue.
Best way is to root your phone. But like I said earlier, do read everything, and download the drivers and the Wugfresh Toolkit before proceeding.
All the best.
Soon you'll be like me enjoying what can only be said as a beauty of a device.
A big thanks to Efrant for helping a gal out!
Cheers!
Regards,
Reena J
[Q] Same problem, solved, but now how can I network lock it again...
Hi All,
In short, same problem here, I used another unlock code(bought it) and now i want to network lock it again? How can I lock it?
I had very same problem of this thread, I bought phone as factory unlocked but was code unlocked(Vodafone Spain), later after updating to 4.0.4 and then to 4.1.1, it asked for the code again.
I raged with the problem and I rushed to buy a unlock code (8$), a bit shady, but it works fine.
Now I want to confront the shop who sold the phone lying about its lock state, and it would be convincing if i can send them the phone network locked as it was.
How can I network lock the phone again?
I have tryed inputing the code *7465625*638*# or *7465625# and similar combinations with no lock, I don't get a popup asking me for the carrier data to lock it.
I also tryed to downgrade the phone to 4.0.4, with no result and later to 4.1.1 and the same it is not asking for the unlock code...
Just an obvious clarification, I am talking about carrier network locking, not lock/unlock the bootloader.
Thanxs a lot in advance
djjohnson said:
Techies folks!
This is just to update you guys on this issue and if in future any one else faces such similar issue just do this and get back your peace of mind.
First you need to root your phone as mentioned by Efrant and it is indeed a simple process once you have set up the required drivers.
Once again thanks a lot Efrant for your support and time in helping me out with this.
:good:
First you need to root your phone, period.
I tried all methods before diving into this method.
Rooting isn't complicated and all it takes is patience and the exact details to get this done.
What I am about to suggest is to be taken at the reader's risk and I am not responsible for any damage done to your phone.
That being said, I highly doubt that anything will go wrong unless you arent used to following instructions!
My Nexus was magically locked to an invisible network and you guys can find that out by going into fastboot mode.
What that means is to turn your device off and then press the buttons together (volume Up + volume Down + Power), you will get that info under the "baseband version" and "carrier info".
I could not resort to the online unlocking sites because ALL of them require the original network to unlock the phone.
I suggest that you root the phone and it is quite simple not taking you longer than 10-20 minutes.
1) First you will need to install the drivers onto your phone from your computer which you will need during the rooting process.
You can get that from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20058157&postcount=1
It is called the Universal Naked Driver 0.7.
The download instructions are given in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29044502&postcount=735
The OP was quite comprehensive in providing the exact details in what needed to be done. So once you have installed the necessary drivers proceed to the next step.
2) Download Wugfresh Toolkit which is the main tool needed to root your phone.
First you will need to unlock your phone and then root it.
The beauty of this software is that everything is on it. Just click on the Unlock button first and then you just have to sit back and wait for the magic to happen.
The instructions on the screen will tell you what its doing.
I would suggest reading through the entire process before going through with this.
http://www.wugfresh.com/dev/nexus-root-toolkit/
Extra material on this http://wugfresh.com/Help/
3) Once you have rooted your phone, the hardest bit is over. Then all you need to do is install this application on your device. And run it.
Simple.
You have yourself an unlocked phone!! :victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548210
There will be questions as to if this will work in CDMA or GSM versions.
I got mine from Expansys and it was supposed to be an unlocked GSM model.
I hope that will help as it did with mine.
Actually I got my bf to do this for me as it is a tad bit complicated and it was a birthday gift from him.
Wow!
I seriously didn't realize that I had a personal assistant or the CIA to track my moves!
I apologize if my bf didnt get back to you guys on this issue. I, on the other hand, have work which consumes 12hrs of my day.
So I really do not have the time to post a reply.
But hey! a simple 'I dont know where SHE is, but here's what I can do to help you out' would have sufficed.
I'm just saying. No offense intended mate.
By the way, I'm a girl, and in my opinion Expansys came highly recommended to me by all my co-workers.
But I had the most horrible customer support ever!
My personal opinion would be to NOT buy from there!
Get from Negri's or some place better.
God knows how many times I had tried calling them. Even tried sending them tons of emails and not even one peek into my issue.
Goes to show how "great" of a customer service they have!
I hope my post will help you also to resolve your issue.
Best way is to root your phone. But like I said earlier, do read everything, and download the drivers and the Wugfresh Toolkit before proceeding.
All the best.
Soon you'll be like me enjoying what can only be said as a beauty of a device.
A big thanks to Efrant for helping a gal out!
Cheers!
Regards,
Reena J
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Google is selling these phones for $350 ? Why would you pay more and not get it from the source, just curious. Not trying to be argumentative.
jawmail said:
Google is selling these phones for $350 ? Why would you pay more and not get it from the source, just curious. Not trying to be argumentative.
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Maybe they're not in the US or purchased them more than 2-3 months ago.
The point is that google does not sell them worldwide, they don't sell them in my country (Spain), or at least not 3 months ago when I bought mine. And if they would sell them it would be more like 400€ minimum (equivalent to 500$ moreless)
But lets not lose the focus, of the question, any idea of how to network lock the phone again?
jawmail said:
Google is selling these phones for $350 ? Why would you pay more and not get it from the source, just curious. Not trying to be argumentative.
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I had let my nexus update to 4.1.1 before realising I had a sim unlock problem here, the guide above was spot on, if you are on 4.0.4. I just couldnt get the last bit done on JellyBean, so went back to google image 4.0.4 and it work flawlessly
Phone updated to JB an hour ago, and its still working sweet
So I searched this site for quite a while and have not yet found a solution to this problem, so the only thing left to do was to post this.
I have an HTC one running 4.3 on Verizon.
The first problem occurs when I try to post my unlock token to htcdev. When I do I get the "Mid not allowed: error 160".
So to fix this I learned that I need to change my CID to be something like "111111". The weird part is, in order to change my CID I need to be unlocked and have s-off.
You see my problem? I can't unlock because on my CID, and I can't change my CID because I'm not unlocked....
Does anyone have a solution? I'm sorry if the solution is already posted, I just can't find it!
Thanks!
As a side note, I tried to use rumrunner but I got an error. I'm not sure why I got this error but based on some of the things I read I suspect it was due to being on 4.3? Has anyone been able to root/unlock/s-off on 4.3 Verizon?
Nikguy
You simply have not read enough messages in this sub-Forum and its cousins to realize that your version of what is running is not at the moment capable of being upgraded. Search a bit more.
jpradley said:
You simply have not read enough messages in this sub-Forum and its cousins to realize that your version of what is running is not at the moment capable of being upgraded. Search a bit more.
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Ha ok I guess you are right. Maybe I just didn't want to accept it! Thanks though
jpradley said:
You simply have not read enough messages in this sub-Forum and its cousins to realize that your version of what is running is not at the moment capable of being upgraded. Search a bit more.
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Ha ok I guess you are right. Maybe I just didn't want to accept it! Thanks though
Currently we can't root or get s off in 4.3. Would be nice if Verizon tokens were not blacklisted from HTC dev but what can you do.
Only way to get root right now is if you have a java card and that costs a lot of money. There is a guy on here who has one and will do it for a price if you don't mind paying for it with shipping back and forth. But that's up to you, right now we have to wait and let the devs who came up with rumrunner upgrade the program for the newest software.
Wish there was a way to debloat the stock 4.3 from Verizon without soff because then my one wouldn't be sitting on the table anymore lol.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
I just got my Verizon (910v) note 4, and I want to unlock the bootloader, but it is running CQE1 as well as the may 2017 security patch, and I want to make sure it is safe to follow the downgrade and unlock.
***UPDATE***
According to @DesertRatBiggs it is possible to downgrade and unlock your bootloader on CQE1. here is a link to the thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...wngrade-mm-t3573012/post73344263#post73344263
Me, too. I'm very curious to know if this stock baseband has been unlocked ... or if we (and the countless others in our specific situation) will simply never be able to fully unleash these powerful Note 4 Beasts like we'd like. (I'd sure pay some cash for the privilege...)
ibcdub said:
Me, too. I'm very curious to know if this stock baseband has been unlocked ... or if we (and the countless others in our specific situation) will simply never be able to fully unleash these powerful Note 4 Beasts like we'd like. (I'd sure pay some cash for the privilege...)
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If I had any money I could pay I would be more than willing to do so, unfortunately I could not afford it right now.
In my current situation my screen gets very hot(not sure if it is supposed to) and so I would really like to flash a Note 7 port so I could scale down my resolution to 1080p to see if that helps with the heat. I know no one asked I just figured that if I made my situation known maybe someone could/would help me/us out.
BTW I got mine second hand, but it is in fantastic shape. Also the indicator under the battery show no signs of water damage. I say this because I know water damage can definitely cause heat problems
Is there anyone that knows anything that could help us?
In the general section it looks as though it has already been confirmed as doable... check this link and if it helps give me a thanks.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ctory-binary-successful-downgrade-mm-t3573012
Thank you very much I will check it out!
But I didn't see anything about cqe1
Does anyone know?
I just realized I misspoke in my last comment. I want to know if unlocking your bootloader is safe on cqe1. please guys are really need to know.
As it turns out...YES! can downgrade and unlock you bootloader safely. At least as far as I understand, i have not yet tried it BUT in the thread which i have linked in the OP @DesertRatBiggs was kind enough to confirm that it can indeed be done. I will try it tonight and give you my results. I encourage anyone who benefits from @DesertRatBiggs information to give him thanks.
bucs9115 said:
I just realized I misspoke in my last comment. I want to know if unlocking your bootloader is safe on cqe1. please guys are really need to know.
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No but you can downgrade to bpa1 and run the gauntlet