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[Q] Helping fiance root his Candian/Bell S3 SGH-1747M

The thing is, we weren't even going to root it. I thought that Teamviewer Quicksupport supported all S3's.
I looked and he is running 4.1.1. So...I'm not sure what the big deal is, but no matter what, Quicksupport is not "supported" when we go to the Play Store. If there is a simple fix, I would love this, because he is not tech-savvy and this is why we got this model.
However -
I've only rooted one phone in my life before, when there was only really one way of rooting. It seems I have read that problem abound with these S3 models - more specifically, IMEI may be lost, and choosing exactly which way to root, since there are varying stock kernels.
I see this thread here on the IMEI backup/injection. Am I safe to assume, that is where I start? (I have read that the Bell is just a ATT version, so will the ATT version instructions work here? I will ask in that thread but not sure).
Then - once that is done - I have to pick a way to root it that works for Bell's SIII SGH-1747M. That is where I am running into a bit of a wall. I wonder if I can get someone who has done this with this model to help me out and pick a safe way to mod it? Do I need to post more info to help decide this? I can get on his device and get whatever info is needed.
I also read, that perhaps Bell's stock kernels either do or do not need unsecuring (not quite sure after a lot of reading) before doing anything else. I really am trying to learn - it's just all very daunting and when I'm reading and not understanding, I can still read til the sun explodes and never be able to do this correctly. Well, maybe if I had an unending supply of phones.
Thank you for your help...
I would just ask in the IMEI and other forums but they are not available to me (either post count too low or I'm not sure).
Sincerely,
Foxdev

foxdev said:
The thing is, we weren't even going to root it. I thought that Teamviewer Quicksupport supported all S3's.
I looked and he is running 4.1.1. So...I'm not sure what the big deal is, but no matter what, Quicksupport is not "supported" when we go to the Play Store. If there is a simple fix, I would love this, because he is not tech-savvy and this is why we got this model.
However -
I've only rooted one phone in my life before, when there was only really one way of rooting. It seems I have read that problem abound with these S3 models - more specifically, IMEI may be lost, and choosing exactly which way to root, since there are varying stock kernels.
I see this thread here on the IMEI backup/injection. Am I safe to assume, that is where I start? (I have read that the Bell is just a ATT version, so will the ATT version instructions work here? I will ask in that thread but not sure).
Then - once that is done - I have to pick a way to root it that works for Bell's SIII SGH-1747M. That is where I am running into a bit of a wall. I wonder if I can get someone who has done this with this model to help me out and pick a safe way to mod it? Do I need to post more info to help decide this? I can get on his device and get whatever info is needed.
I would just ask in the IMEI and other forums but they are not available to me (either post count too low or I'm not sure).
Sincerely,
Foxdev
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You can root without worrying about losing your IMEI.. Give this thread a look over.. Click

BAM1789 said:
You can root without worrying about losing your IMEI.. Give this thread a look over.. Click
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Thanks, I just added it as a part of the research I did I am not worried so much about that anymore, but the other things are like....making my mind explode. All I've ever done so far is my Thunderbolt 2 years ago and that was so easy.

foxdev said:
Thanks, I just added it as a part of the research I did I am not worried so much about that anymore, but the other things are like....making my mind explode. All I've ever done so far is my Thunderbolt 2 years ago and that was so easy.
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this is actually a pretty simple device to root too. Just pick a method and read it over and it'll be pretty hard to screw anything up
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Also make a backup of your imei just in case something goes sideways.
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d3athsd00r said:
Also make a backup of your imei just in case something goes sideways.
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Thanks, going to do that for sure
Also, does anyone know with this model if Teamviewer Quicksupport just doesn't work at all? I cant get answers from Teamviewer. If it did I wouldn't need to root the stupid thing!

i don't understand why you believe you need to root to have this app supported. i attempted to use the app and it told me i needed to download an app from here. try that before you root?
edit: also i am rooted and it still did not allow me to use the app. rooting isn't your solution here
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Does CM11 Require S-Off or Root?

I already asked this in the newbie thread but they sent me here...
I'm getting confused after reading countless threads regarding root, s-off, and 4.4.2 so I'll keep my question brief:
Can I get CM11 on my HTC One (Verizon)? I have a stock phone with 4.4.2, not rooted, and s-on. I know s-off cannot be achieved due to root being unavailable at this time. Is there another method to get a custom ROM onto the phone?

cartisdm said:
I already asked this in the newbie thread but they sent me here...
I'm getting confused after reading countless threads regarding root, s-off, and 4.4.2 so I'll keep my question brief:
Can I get CM11 on my HTC One (Verizon)? I have a stock phone with 4.4.2, not rooted, and s-on. I know s-off cannot be achieved due to root being unavailable at this time. Is there another method to get a custom ROM onto the phone?
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You're kind of in a waiting game right now. Sounds like Mobile Tech Videos can get you S-Off...for $75. Beaups has been quiet for awhile, I would assume he's working on an exploit though.
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brholt6 said:
You're kind of in a waiting game right now. Sounds like Mobile Tech Videos can get you S-Off...for $75. Beaups has been quiet for awhile, I would assume he's working on an exploit though.
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Ok, I kind of figured that was going to be the answer. I wasn't sure if there was some sort of side loading method floating around that I missed. I'm definitely not paying $75 for root. Does the java card method that only costs $25 not work? I'd be willing to pay that but not much more...

cartisdm said:
Ok, I kind of figured that was going to be the answer. I wasn't sure if there was some sort of side loading method floating around that I missed. I'm definitely not paying $75 for root. Does the java card method that only costs $25 not work? I'd be willing to pay that but not much more...
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I believe it would, but I don't think anyone has successfully gotten a hold of Sonic. I tried back when 4.3 wasn't able to be cracked and Ive never heard back.
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There is talk of a guy that says he has an exploit for 4.4.2 but he isn't willing to release it till August. People has linked his twitter where he has talked about it. I know it does no one any good from now till then and I am sire we will get more updates by then and could patch his exploit. So basically a waiting game for people that has 4.4.2. Not Mich else you can do. Worse case scenario is not to take any ota till August and hope the guy releases it.
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Dark Jedi said:
There is talk of a guy that says he has an exploit for 4.4.2 but he isn't willing to release it till August. People has linked his twitter where he has talked about it. I know it does no one any good from now till then and I am sire we will get more updates by then and could patch his exploit. So basically a waiting game for people that has 4.4.2. Not Mich else you can do. Worse case scenario is not to take any ota till August and hope the guy releases it.
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Yeah I've been following those threads. Let's just hope someone else finds a way to root the darn thing. I'm so pissed at myself that I took the update without thinking about it. The phone works fine without a custom ROM but I just installed an appradio in my car and I want full mirroring. ARUnchained requires root to work....ugh

cartisdm said:
Yeah I've been following those threads. Let's just hope someone else finds a way to root the darn thing. I'm so pissed at myself that I took the update without thinking about it. The phone works fine without a custom ROM but I just installed an appradio in my car and I want full mirroring. ARUnchained requires root to work....ugh
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Trust me most of us are waiting and are on the same boat. I can't wait to put cm11 on my work Verizon phone because the battery life is so horrible and I actually do use the phone for work. On a normal work day from 10-8pm I usually have to plug it up to charge by 1-2pm :-/

[Q] chain fire auto root

Okay i know the answer is somewhere out there already but i looked and could not find.. has anyone tried chainfires auto root for verizon note 4.. there is a link to the verizon model and i have not seen any report on this. Please answer my stupid question lol. I know it has been talked about but simply cannot find anything on this..

IIRC it requires an unlocked bootloader. Thus, no dice.
They're is as yet no root, it'll show up in this forum when it happens. No reason to ask about xyz root method, none work.

WyoSi said:
IIRC it requires an unlocked bootloader. Thus, no dice.
They're is as yet no root, it'll show up in this forum when it happens. No reason to ask about xyz root method, none work.
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Yeah thats what i figured.. i know the boot is on lockdown but i didnt know why they would have a root method if it was still locked down... okay thank you.. i pray to the phone gods for a solution.. i used to have the g2 and that boot was locked down and i think it still is.. they had some loky patch file that walked around the boot.. is this not an option for the note.. i dont know much about this level of information lol. Im just a simple geek that has crack flashed phones into bricks and then saved them from pure persistence!

Wait had anyone actually tried it. LOL 15K bounty but it's been out there for weeks hahahaha.
That's because the is a DEV ed. Of the phone that has an unlocked bootloader that's why it's available if that wasn't the case I am pretty sure chain would have claimed the thousands of dollars just waiting there for him and if he didn't want it he would donate it.
Search before you post, think before you speak.

Note4 AT&T CF-Auto-Root
Wrong post

No dice with towelroot huh? Worked great on verizon S5

zounduser said:
No dice with towelroot huh? Worked great on verizon S5
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That exploit was closed up prenote 4 release.
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WyoSi said:
IIRC it requires an unlocked bootloader. Thus, no dice.
They're is as yet no root, it'll show up in this forum when it happens. No reason to ask about xyz root method, none work.
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this. it has been discussed over and over no root for retail and probably wont ever see it

This Is Just Bananas.. Like A Monkey Doing A football. Like a one man funeral. Like .... well you get the point.. I need root! Wish I would have investigated this a bit before I purchased it. My friend has the 3 and tons of roms for it so I didn't know. Ignorance is death

joewaz said:
This Is Just Bananas.. Like A Monkey Doing A football. Like a one man funeral. Like .... well you get the point.. I need root! Wish I would have investigated this a bit before I purchased it. My friend has the 3 and tons of roms for it so I didn't know. Ignorance is death
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Sell it and buy developer edition

Think I could get close to the new value?

what you mean? check swappa and see

S-Off as of January 2015

Would someone please point me in the right direction of a post / guide for performing S-OFF given current available resources? I just picked up a refurbished M8 ($1 !!!) and have already unlocked the bootloader and flashed TWRP. However all of the videos and guides I have seen involve obtaining S-OFF through using firewater (ran into an error due to an unrecognized character - the open parenthesis character to be exact - and I couldn't get to the part where you have to type "Yes" in the command window) and I really don't want to pay 25 bucks for the sunshine S-Off method. Any advice? Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere already, I couldn't find anything when I looked......

Firewater is no longer supported. Sunshine is the only S-off method for the M8.

frankp124 said:
Would someone please point me in the right direction of a post / guide for performing S-OFF given current available resources? I just picked up a refurbished M8 ($1 !!!) and have already unlocked the bootloader and flashed TWRP. However all of the videos and guides I have seen involve obtaining S-OFF through using firewater (ran into an error due to an unrecognized character - the open parenthesis character to be exact - and I couldn't get to the part where you have to type "Yes" in the command window) and I really don't want to pay 25 bucks for the sunshine S-Off method. Any advice? Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere already, I couldn't find anything when I looked......
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The only advice I have is to cough up the $25. It is worth it for the freedom it gives you.

Would anyone tell me if I flash latest 4.4.4 though .zip via recovery or run HTC RUU then I will loose S OFF? I want to flash ViperOne but needs 4.4.4 firmware cause of WiFi issues. Thanks

Once you get S-Off you will not lose it using RUU 's or custom ROM's no matter how many time's you flash
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@scoot0073
Thanks, Yeah I just found out that S OFF and Unlocked Bootloader stays the same even if I run HTC RUU or flash stock firmware.zip :good:
Edit; I will only loose root. And, I will need stock recovery to run HTC RUU or custom recovery to flash .zip firmware

maheshpatel said:
@scoot0073
Thanks, Yeah I just found out that S OFF and Unlocked Bootloader stays the same even if I run HTC RUU or flash stock firmware.zip :good:
Edit; I will only loose root. And, I will need stock recovery to run HTC RUU or custom recovery to flash .zip firmware
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You don't need to install the stock recovery to run a RUU. Also, firmware is flashed through the bootloader, not recovery.

xunholyx said:
The only advice I have is to cough up the $25. It is worth it for the freedom it gives you.
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Firewater is no longer supported. Sunshine is the only S-off method for the M8.
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Drat. Well thanks for the input guys, I guess I'll "spring" for sunshine..... It's just so disappointing to see things come to this. I see countless posts and threads on this site where dedicated devs/advanced users just want to lend a helping hand or make someone else's mobile phone experience a little better, asking for nothing but an optional donation in return. You are the people that make this world a better place!!!! I had the LG Optimus as my previous device and I remember paying a dollar for the FreeGee app, which did a similar thing. Now, $1 is essentially a small donation, I can deal with that and am happy to support my devs. But $25 ? come on now, that's just embarrassing. If I were 2-3 years older I would have the requisite comp sci experience to figure out how to S-OFF myself! Oh well. Can't blame the guy for just trying to make a quick buck.....or 25..................
Cheers.

frankp124 said:
Drat. Well thanks for the input guys, I guess I'll "spring" for sunshine..... It's just so disappointing to see things come to this. I see countless posts and threads on this site where dedicated devs/advanced users just want to lend a helping hand or make someone else's mobile phone experience a little better, asking for nothing but an optional donation in return. You are the people that make this world a better place!!!! I had the LG Optimus as my previous device and I remember paying a dollar for the FreeGee app, which did a similar thing. Now, $1 is essentially a small donation, I can deal with that and am happy to support my devs. But $25 ? come on now, that's just embarrassing. If I were 2-3 years older I would have the requisite comp sci experience to figure out how to S-OFF myself! Oh well. Can't blame the guy for just trying to make a quick buck.....or 25..................
Cheers.
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How many devices do you think they bricked before they cracked that exploit? Should they just write off thousands of dollars in lost devices so that you can have a "better" experience?
$1 Donation from 100 people out of the 50,000 that used it means nothing to them. That's then not even enough to replace one device that they bricked beyond repair. Then we're not even talking about the hours that they have to put in to actually do this and to write the codes etc to get the exploit...
Entitlement generation

frankp124 said:
Drat. Well thanks for the input guys, I guess I'll "spring" for sunshine..... It's just so disappointing to see things come to this. I see countless posts and threads on this site where dedicated devs/advanced users just want to lend a helping hand or make someone else's mobile phone experience a little better, asking for nothing but an optional donation in return. You are the people that make this world a better place!!!! I had the LG Optimus as my previous device and I remember paying a dollar for the FreeGee app, which did a similar thing. Now, $1 is essentially a small donation, I can deal with that and am happy to support my devs. But $25 ? come on now, that's just embarrassing. If I were 2-3 years older I would have the requisite comp sci experience to figure out how to S-OFF myself! Oh well. Can't blame the guy for just trying to make a quick buck.....or 25..................
Cheers.
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Well, to tell the truth you don't have to pay. All you have to do is try to find the exploits to gain S-Off on your own. I figure after less than a day (after your first brick), $25 will seem like a bargain.

BerndM14 said:
How many devices do you think they bricked before they cracked that exploit? Should they just write off thousands of dollars in lost devices so that you can have a "better" experience?
$1 Donation from 100 people out of the 50,000 that used it means nothing to them. That's then not even enough to replace one device that they bricked beyond repair. Then we're not even talking about the hours that they have to put in to actually do this and to write the codes etc to get the exploit...
Entitlement generation
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Not trying to start a fight dude, just pointing out that in the past all the development software I've used was absolutely free. And I'm sure that over the last 7 years there have been millions of dollars of devices that have been bricked by devs trying to work on new ROMs, exploits, hacks, and the like. Times have changed I guess.... more challenging software to exploit and such.

It has already been discussed several times in several threads!!! the Sunshine developer team has the right to charge as much money as they want. they have selected an amount that they needed. its not about you and me or some other person who cant or wont pay that for S-off. i myself have not yet gotten S-off. so please refrain from posting such absurd logic about previous things being free and others points just to justify this.
If you cant afford $25 then just be practical and flash stuffs with caution like me. Sunshine is not something illegal that posting against it will eventually make it free!!!!! Happy Flashing!!!!

Not to mention, sunshine is actually pretty revolutionary.. Think about how hard it is to gain s-off now days, and then think about the fact that with Sunshine,they not only cracked it, BUT ALSO made it a 1-click method. Best $25 I ever spent, no question

Rantrave07 said:
It has already been discussed several times in several threads!!!
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Yeah, that horse has been beaten to death 10 times over, in pages and pages of threads!
If the OP got the phone for $1, than they get a s-off phone with "full freedom" for $26. Still a pretty awesome deal.
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However all of the videos and guides I have seen involve obtaining S-OFF through using firewater
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Be aware that s-off is only needed for a few isolated things. Unfortunately, updating firmware manually to run the more recent ROMs is one of those things. And the most common reason for wanting s-off.
I gather from your device history that you are on AT&T. If the goal is to update firmware, your alternative is to stay with ROMs that match your firmware and wait for AT&T to roll out the 4.4.4 update (which will update the firmware). Since unfortunately, AT&T is one of the few versions that haven't had 4.4.4 rolled out. Hopefully that will happen soon. One source has reported the rollout was delayed twice in December due to issues incorporating VoLTE (voice over LTE).

5.1 Update and s-off

The official 5.1 update is on it's way from Verizon next week. For those of us waiting patiently for jcase to release an s-off method, I'm thinking it might be better to avoid updating? I can only imagine the hboot will get an update with this 5.1 update. With that, it will probably undo all the work jcase has done up to this point.
Am I wrong to think this?
Is it harmless to take the update?

guitarist5122 said:
The official 5.1 update is on it's way from Verizon next week. For those of us waiting patiently for jcase to release an s-off method, I'm thinking it might be better to avoid updating? I can only imagine the hboot will get an update with this 5.1 update. With that, it will probably undo all the work jcase has done up to this point.
Am I wrong to think this?
Is it harmless to take the update?
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Harmless unless you want to meet up the next time I drive down to Delaware.

There is no sense in waiting on an update for a root exploit that may or may not ever come. S-Off already works on 5.1 but Verizon users are still waiting for a root exploit as before. Odds are you could be waiting a long time. Might as well enjoy the new software while you wait.

guitarist5122 said:
The official 5.1 update is on it's way from Verizon next week. For those of us waiting patiently for jcase to release an s-off method, I'm thinking it might be better to avoid updating? I can only imagine the hboot will get an update with this 5.1 update. With that, it will probably undo all the work jcase has done up to this point.
Am I wrong to think this?
Is it harmless to take the update?
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Plenty of helpful members with Java Cards to get you S-Off now. Best if you can find someone in your area to meet with to avoid shipping the device.
Went that route a couple of months ago and been happily flashing custom Rom goodness ever since.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247

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...it will probably undo all the work jcase has done up to this point.
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There's nothing (public) to undo. Unless by chance jcase discovered an exploit and HTC found it as well and fixed it....
It's starting to appear that many of these folks who can figure this sh*t out are losing interest in working on devices from Verizon and other carriers who go to extreme lengths to lock them down. I mean, my previous phone was a Galaxy S3 and Samsung / VZW locked them down tight. The S4 uses presumably the same security (my wife had one so I was a little up to speed on them). I haven't bothered checking the S5 or S6 but I'm confident they're not exploitable either.... Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing those folks if they're no longer trying. That's 150% their decision and choice !

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There's nothing (public) to undo. Unless by chance jcase discovered an exploit and HTC found it as well and fixed it....
It's starting to appear that many of these folks who can figure this sh*t out are losing interest in working on devices from Verizon and other carriers who go to extreme lengths to lock them down. I mean, my previous phone was a Galaxy S3 and Samsung / VZW locked them down tight. The S4 uses presumably the same security (my wife had one so I was a little up to speed on them). I haven't bothered checking the S5 or S6 but I'm confident they're not exploitable either.... Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing those folks if they're no longer trying. That's 150% their decision and choice !
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Surprisingly the SG6 is able to flash ROMs. no bootloader unlock, but still surprising considering how hard SG3/4 was locked down when I was on them.

andybones said:
Surprisingly the SG6 is able to flash ROMs. no bootloader unlock, but still surprising considering how hard SG3/4 was locked down when I was on them.
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So going forward, after our edge programs are eligible etc etc, what is the best alternative to have an unlocked bootloader and root even be an option without extreme measures? Pay off the edge program and go to T-Mobile and HTC? That way the bootloader can be unlocked from HTC? I'm very thankful to have my M9 rooted and unlocked but thinking ahead, what's the best course of action? Thoughts?

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Surprisingly the SG6 is able to flash ROMs. no bootloader unlock, but still surprising considering how hard SG3/4 was locked down when I was on them.
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Is it the same as can be done on the S3 with a locked bootloader ? I'd have to go back to that forum to get the name as I don't remember it.... Safestrap ?
Looks like it's not Safestrap after all. I'm quickly scanning but don't see much details yet. I do see quite a few ROMs available though !

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Is it the same as can be done on the S3 with a locked bootloader ? I'd have to go back to that forum to get the name as I don't remember it.... Safestrap ?
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I hated SS.
I'm not exactly sure how it's done I just have a buddy on SG6 on VZW and loves it, being able to mke ROM.
I do know it isn't SS
"ping pong root"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016

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I hated SS.
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Never had to deal with it.... I rooted mine the same day I rec'd it ! Same with my previous phones - all rooted in less than (2) days. Well, except for my HTC Eris. That one took a couple of months after I got it before jcase came up with an exploit.
I had scott123 "free" my M9 the day after I rec'd it.

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Never had to deal with it.... I rooted mine the same day I rec'd it ! Same with my previous phones - all rooted in less than (2) days. Well, except for my HTC Eris. That one took a couple of months after I got it before jcase came up with an exploit.
I had scott123 "free" my M9 the day after I rec'd it.
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only reason i had to use SS was cos my dad got a new phone and gave me his old sg3, and at this point it had 4.4.4 so bootloader couldnt be unlocked anymore and had to use SS, it was horrible imo