Hi all, I'm from Sonr Labs, we just released a universal plug in speaker dock for android with a remote control (it uses the headphone jack for both data and audio). The app that powers it is open source and there's a dead simple API (for integrating thumbs up/down etc into your app)
Is this of interest? If so, I'm happy to answer questions, etc. I can't post the URL because I'm too new here, but hopefully if its of interest, then someone more senior can post the Sonr Labs website.
What advantages over something like this would your system offer. This one works via the micro usb port and also has BT capability. Being micro usb it actually charges the device as well. I am not tearing down your product just asking for a breakdown of the advantages is all.
fair question, the idea is just easier and more reliable than bluetooth. Our feeling was if you are plugging it in anyway, easier to eliminate pairing, etc.
JoeBorn said:
fair question, the idea is just easier and more reliable than bluetooth. Our feeling was if you are plugging it in anyway, easier to eliminate pairing, etc.
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Sounds interesting and will keep eyes on the progress...
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Hi Devs,
first of all, sorry for starting a new thread, but searched the forum and didn't find exactly that.
Like I've read, there is no audio over USB support built-in to our mighty Desire.
I tried a few different microUSB to 3.5mm jack adapters from ebay - even one declared as for HTC Desire. Checked the usb-pins-assignment also and it seems that HTC hasn't built in (or turned off) that function in opposite to some other manufacturers.
So will it be possible to write a rom or a kernel, that'll support that?
If it is possible, I would appreciate a few hints what I'll have to do, to get this thing working!
Thanks in advance!
Can I know why you need that? Is it for A/V out?
brianius said:
Hi Devs,
first of all, sorry for starting a new thread, but searched the forum and didn't find exactly that.
Like I've read, there is no audio over USB support built-in to our mighty Desire.
I tried a few different microUSB to 3.5mm jack adapters from ebay - even one declared as for HTC Desire. Checked the usb-pins-assignment also and it seems that HTC hasn't built in (or turned off) that function in opposite to some other manufacturers.
So will it be possible to write a rom or a kernel, that'll support that?
If it is possible, I would appreciate a few hints what I'll have to do, to get this thing working!
Thanks in advance!
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Its not possible to send analog audio signal over the usb since its a standard usb plug. Only the old htc phones with extUSB had audio, but its was a bigger plug with more pins.
On that note i dont get why you want to get audio from there, when theres a nice 3.5mm jack socket on the top of the phone.
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Can I know why you need that? Is it for A/V out?
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Thanks for your quick answers!
Yes, since there are no music docks for desire I built my own and it has to be possible, other phones with microUSB have that function - why not ours?
I know the old extUSB plug from my magic, there it is no problem. But there must be a way to get this working! I think it is only a software and/or driver issue.
If you'll get a music dock you'll have to plugin the phone + jack everytime? ? ? Look on ebay there are a few universal docks over microUSB, but not working for the nearly best and most sold android phone on market?
Pls give me some hints if there is a way to do that - everything is possible!
Sent from my HTC Desire
brianius said:
Pls give me some hints if there is a way to do that - everything is possible!
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Umm, well not really. Because who says that the USB port of your phone is connected the right way internally to actually SEND data over the cable/dock.
I have no idea on how to do it. Thats just what I think, but with Android, a LOT is possible
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Umm, well not really. Because who says that the USB port of your phone is connected the right way internally to actually SEND data over the cable/dock.
I have no idea on how to do it. Thats just what I think, but with Android, a LOT is possible
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YEAH IT IS!
On Nexus one they built in extra pins for docking and audio over that works like a charm.
I'm having a few adapters microUSB to 3.5mm jack for Motorola,Samsung,Nokia...phones from ebay, but not one reaction from Desire
Maybe the adapter for Desire needs a Digital-to-analog converter to get analog audio out of the microUSB port.
But no technical details over that from HTC - does anyone know more about the microUSB connections on our Desire? Tried to get a technical manual for Desire, but no chance on google...
If there is no other solution, I'll have to disassemble my expensive Desire to get a view on connections and maybe some hints which IC is managing the microUSB.
Does any dev know what would be possible by modding a kernel or rom?
Thanks in advance!
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Can I know why you need that? Is it for A/V out?
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im also looking for something like this, though i want digital-audio out. for example in my car, plug and play so i get spotify from my usb to my stereo and able to control spotify from my stereo. there is no problem for this if you use iphone, though id like to be able to do it on my htc.
any solution?
Ability to stream out the audio through USB would be something nice to have.
There's a guide online on how to splice a USB and 3.5mm cable to the Apple USB cord so that you can charge and play audio on ipod accessories, as long as you don't mind having USB and audio plugged in at the same time. http://www.erwanmace.com/2012/07/ipod-dock-android/
Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
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Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
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Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
indie said:
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
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Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
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Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
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That's totally proprietary. The phone that that is made for probably doesn't even have a 3.5mm jack.
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Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
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Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
Your best bet for a single plug into your phone would probably be to use an MHL>HDMI adapter, and then get another adapter to convert from HDMI audio to 3.5mm.
That would be rather clunky though. HDMI > Anything (that isn't DVI) converters are going to run you at least about $40 for a start, and they aren't small either (probably not much smaller than the phone itself .) And they are externally-powered, so you'd need to provide power to both the MHL dongle and the HDMI converter, so it'd be super untidy.
You could do it though.
But you're probably better off using Bluetooth.
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Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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My assumption comes from the fact that there is a "docking" option in the system settings of the Galaxy Note, meaning that there is support for docking stations and probably audio output for them.
I'm not saying that the Note is the only and first phone to have it, I'm just wondering if there are such cables out there and if such thing possible to be made through Micro USB.
I had an iPhone almost 2 years ago and such cable was available easily and it did really help in my car setup, and since the Note has the same slot setup of my old iPhone I would really like to know if a cable like that is somewhere out there.
Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
Hmmm, the both the official desktop dock and car dock have a 3.5mm audio out. It seems unlikely that there would be a USB DAC in the docks themselves, which suggests that analogue audio is being piped out the microUSB port on the phone itself.
Of course, the OP could just buy the official car dock to get nice tidy cabling...
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
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Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
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Exactly! I found out about this dock yesterday and I'm still wondering why isn't anything like of what I suggested earlier available? How come now one asked about this before!
zylor said:
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
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That is exactly what I want!
Very Interested in this as well. OEM dock wont work with a case. So this would be a great alternative paired with a car cradle such as this.
biggy83 said:
Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
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This:
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This:
$7 + Shipping
I too really want one of these.
It is obviously possible as the destop & car dock do this.
The only way is, for someone with some electronics knowledge to pull one of these apart to see how its done. It would be interesting to see if it is straight audio out, or if there is a "Digital to Analogue Converter in there"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-ET-...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=5051243939125627988
This might do the trick in the unlikely case that Note's microusb outputs audio. Tough I'm really interested in knowing for sure if the Galaxy Note microusb pumps line level audio.
Judging by the price of the desktop dock i wouldn't bet my money on the idea that it has not a dac. I
Use Bluetooth.
maybe at usbfever.com or dealextreme.com
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http://www.cablejive.com/ maybe
Hey guys,
Bought some nice headphones with the 3 button control on it. The center button works for pausing/playing and skipping to the next track, but the volume controls don't work for some reason... Can I do something to get them working? Maybe download something? Change some settings?
Thank you!
I don't think the phone supports that, did you try the mic? In some of the three buttons headsets the mic does not work.
Mic does not work either, is there a way to make the headset supported?
Have you tried Tasker?
Not very familiar with the program? Could you recommend what to do?
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Have you tried Tasker?
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Any suggestions?
Thank you!
From my point of view, you can always try to create a profile for your headphones, that can control the way you want, signing buttons to work like you want. You can always use other automate programs but, tasker is the most complete and powerful IMO.
If you can not use it, our can't find the your way to work with it there's always a wiki for it (just search for it) our try to use others like "Smartkey" or "RemoteControl for Earphones" (search playstore).
I tried an app called headset button controller and it recognized the center button clicks but did not recognize the volume button clicks. Can I somehow in tasked or another program get the volume buttons to recognize?
It sounds like you've got a iPhone compatible headset rather than an android one. I've only just started looking into this myself (as I'm in the market for a new headset) but as I understand it Apple have swapped the pin out on the TRRS connector. I think there might be adapters available if you're married to you're current headset but I haven't really investigated that as I haven't bought anything yet and I think an adapter would end up being clumsy.
On mobile so don't have my links in front of me but hopefully that's enough to give you an appropriate Google query.
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It sounds like you've got a iPhone compatible headset rather than an android one. I've only just started looking into this myself (as I'm in the market for a new headset) but as I understand it Apple have swapped the pin out on the TRRS connector. I think there might be adapters available if you're married to you're current headset but I haven't really investigated that as I haven't bought anything yet and I think an adapter would end up being clumsy.
On mobile so don't have my links in front of me but hopefully that's enough to give you an appropriate Google query.
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The headset I have has an extension that I put on to make the cord longer, I wouldn't mind buying the trrs adapter and using this new cable/adapter instead of my current one.... Would this fix my problem of the buttons not working?
Nope, sorry!
arty93 said:
The headset I have has an extension that I put on to make the cord longer, I wouldn't mind buying the trrs adapter and using this new cable/adapter instead of my current one.... Would this fix my problem of the buttons not working?
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Hiya,
I finally got around to doing some more research into this, apparantly there are two different issues with using Apple headsets with Android devices.
1 - Wiring change on 3.5mm TRRS connector. - This is why the microphone doesn't work for calls, Apple changed the pin out on the headphone jack to the reverse of most other manufacturers. This is the problem that can be solved by the adapter I was talking about originally.
2 - Different resistance on the button commands. - In addition to the wiring changes Apple also use a different electrical resistance on the buttons (and have patented their specific level). The adapter doesn't fix this unfortunately so even with it the buttons still won't work.
Looks like there isn't a solution to #2 unfortunately so it might be time to start looking at a different headset entirely.
Sorry for getting your hopes up with my original post.
BDC
G'day guys,
I've done a heap of google searching in an attempt to find out whether anyone has attempted what I'm trying to achieve. Ofcourse there appears to be zero information so I'm turning to XDA in hope of being pointed in the right direction. I drive a Ford Falcon so wanting to put a double din android head unit in is essentially out of the question without irreversibly modifying anything. Which I'm not going to do.
I've installed a Parrot Asteroid Tablet into my car. The whole system works quite well, it does exactly what the box describes. I have done the obligatory root and install the Playstore to get some real usability out of it. My problem is the tablet is woefully outdated in terms of internal storage, processing power and its running Android 2.3 (it's severely limited on available apps these days). Basically once i rooted and installed the Playstore plus a couple of other small apps, it has run out of internal storage and I've discovered its quite difficult to move any apps over to the SD card.
Now to my crazy and I think difficult plan.
Basically i would like to upgrade the tablet to something far more modern, either a small tablet or phablet. Why I think this plan may work, not that i think i will be easy. The Parrot tablet communicates with a box that sits under the dashboard in my car which contains all the bits that are plugged in to get all the functionality (bluetooth mic, usb hub, aux in etc.) The tablet communicates with the box via mini USB (this is where i think my plan may have some merit).
The first thing I have tried is getting a micro USB OTG cable and a mini USB cable and plugged my Galaxy Note Edge straight in to see if i could get any communication or atleast sound output from my phone. Of course that didn't work. The only thing that happened was the screen illuminated, no sound output, no charging, no recognition of the usb stick which was plugged into the box full of music.
I'm not really sure what the next step would be making this plan work, that's where I'm hopeful you guys can help.
Any help or guidance to point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Stefan
Install a Nexus 7 2013 and go from there.
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Install a Nexus 7 2013 and go from there.
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I did think about doing that, if i could get it to work with Parrots Ebox that sits under the dash. Unfortunately in Ford Australia's infinite wisdom, they thought it would be a great idea to design a car where it is extremely difficult and time consuming to do anything to the stereo (it was an absolute nightmare just to install an amplifier). Being a car that was sold only in Australia and New Zealand means there is also next to no aftermarket support for doing things like this.
Basically my one and only real option was to install the Parrot Asteroid Tablet because there is a plug and play loom for it which makes it communicate with the factory stereo. In reality I'm not really sure its feasible to install a Nexus 7 in the same way.
Wasn't really sure if this was the right sub-forum to post this in, so please move if needed mods.
Can anyone recommend a speaker dock? There are plenty around for the iPhone such as this one, but where are the equivalent with a USB-C or USB mini connection?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AZATOM-Hom...s=network-media&ie=UTF8&qid=1524055317&sr=1-3
Perhaps these are going out of fashion now as more people use services like Spotify or Google Music, or they prefer to connect via Bluetooth, but there is something I do like about having a wired connection that doesn't involve either an Aux or USB cable connected round the back of a speaker. Having my phone resting on the speaker, charging, while I can listen to my music appeals, but I can't find any equivalent products like the one above that have a non-Lightning connection.
Any recommendations?
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Wasn't really sure if this was the right sub-forum to post this in, so please move if needed mods. Can anyone recommend a speaker dock? There are plenty around for the iPhone such as this one, but where are the equivalent with a USB-C or USB mini connection?...
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Your best bet is probably to post this question within one of the following threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Good Luck!
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