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I was just curious. I kind of don't want to go back to stock ROM because its backed up on my computer. Also, it wad becoming unstable so now I'm on Virtuous. I rather get a ROM thats based off that release because of the TV out cable. I hope there will be
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Yes. There will be at least one rooted stock ROM. However, most other ROMs will be customized ROMs that utilize the new Gingerbread kernel.
I'd like to point out the kernel source may be for a kernel that only works with the OTA. That's how its been with the Tbolt. Not so bad because it would spawn a whole new generation of much improved gingerbread ROMs.
Thats all I wanted to know seeing how they got gingerbread roms from devices like the HTC Sensation, I don't think it'll take that long to get a custom ROM cooked up haha! As long as there will be roms based off it, I'll be happy hopefully they'll have custom themes
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rosedillinger said:
I was just curious. I kind of don't want to go back to stock ROM because its backed up on my computer. Also, it wad becoming unstable so now I'm on Virtuous. I rather get a ROM thats based off that release because of the TV out cable. I hope there will be
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Nope, absolutely no developer will create a custom rom from this new official rom that's coming out. They haven't done it in the past, why would they start making new custom roms based off of official OTA roms?
Being on a custom rom rooted will we be able to update to stock?
Or will something go dearly wrong if we try?
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okay, so, for us rom users who don't want to go back to stock.
do we have to flash stock back onto the device?, to get the update? or just wait for a custom kernal
and how does one flash the radio without bricking the phone?
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Nope, absolutely no developer will create a custom rom from this new official rom that's coming out. They haven't done it in the past, why would they start making new custom roms based off of official OTA roms?
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devs play with the source code kernal and work from there.
You will lose root if you update to stock.
Kiboe said:
okay, so, for us rom users who don't want to go back to stock.
do we have to flash stock back onto the device?, to get the update? or just wait for a custom kernal
and how does one flash the radio without bricking the phone?
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Someone will release a rooted version of the ROM which you can use, or just wait for your developer to update their ROM.
No. That update won't be supported. Everyones gonna stop devving the day before its released. Just kidding lol.
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I'll wait for a rooted version to release. But if custom roms like Virtuous, Skyraider, or Incrom update, I'll do that
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I'm personally going to wait until there is a root method. I'll unroot my stock froyo. update. root the update, adb shell and remove the vzw crap and install whatever new kernel has been created from the source code. best way to ensure everything works 100%
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I'll wait for a rooted version to release. But if custom roms like Virtuous, Skyraider, or Incrom update, I'll do that
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skyraider won't see the update, i doubt it, the dev of that rom already moved on to the t-bolt.
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I'm personally going to wait until there is a root method. I'll unroot my stock froyo. update. root the update, adb shell and remove the vzw crap and install whatever new kernel has been created from the source code. best way to ensure everything works 100%
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if you can root the update, no one knows for sure if unrevoked or any method will work, let us know if it does or not!
I'm on 2.2 rooted using unrevoked3 - such a easy process. From what I have been reading, it's not as simple in reverse. I really want 2.3 for the VoIP capabilities and improved keyboard but I'm afraid to brick my phone unrooting it. Also, I live off of WiFi tether for root users and I don't know how long I could wait for another unrevoked or similar to give root on 2.3 so that I can reinstall the app.
So I'm assuming I should just wait for a custom ROM like most everyone else. Is it hard to flash a custom ROM? More or less difficult than the painless 1-click root?
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Probably not quite as painless as unrevoked, but certainly not difficult either. Rom manager actually makes rom flashing pretty simple but seems buggy for a lot of people. I'd wait for the rooted OTA to be posted and flash that. Might want to do a little reading on flashing roms and root in general, there are some good stickies in the incredible forums.
Can I use the root method even on a custom sense ROM?
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Can I use the root method even on a custom sense ROM?
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I'm not wanting to insult you, honestly, but that question reflects a deep lack of knowledge. But, you're at XDA and that's the best place to fix that!
I'll answer your question....
Nobody could probably tell you because nobody has ever tried rooting a custom ROM before.
That said, do some searching and some reading and get familiar with what this community is all about. You will be amazed.
So I flashed the 2.3.4 GB Rom posted by JoelZ yesterday. Some stuff looks diferent but not a whole lot. Was I wrong to expect the newer style keyboard, lockscreen and notification bar? Nevertheless, it boots wicked quick and feels faster.
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My GSII is running stock 2.3.6. I lost root after the update , so the old root method wont work. I want root but I HATE! HATE! HATE! ODIN. (can't even count how many times iv'e bricked my vibrant and GS4G.) I know what i'm doing ive been rooting since my cliq! I have never had any issues with htc devices. (I think rooting and such is easy as long as you read instructions, ask questions if your not sure, and NEVER do anything that can't be found under your device on xda. )
Reading around XDA Iv'e seen threads where people say clockwork doesn't work right or normal reboots caused hard brick. and it's freaking me out! I don't event want to risk soft brick. Should i just get it over with and root now or wait for development to pick up and get the bugs worked out?.....Because I don't know what i would do if i lost my (second) favorite device of all time.
Root using odin. Takes 2 seconds. I never had a samsung before or used odin before, so I went to android monsters in austin and had my buddy do it. But, the info in the sticky is what he used and it worked great.
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I forgot how I did it but is easier than rooting and unlocking the bootloader on a Nexus One that's for sure.
its easier than newer htc phones. just use a the updated superuser apk wit root
Maybe it's just me, but how can you dislike a simple program so much that you refuse to use it to root a phone? From my own experience, it's quick, easy and painless. It's as simple as flashing ClockworkMod Recovery and Superuser with Odin. I've yet to have any issues with Odin and even if you did mess something up, you have all the resources here to get back up and going again with stock - that's what backups are for. There is no reason not to root your phone if you're at least somewhat tech savvy and have a reason to do so.
I think ODIN would be the best tool in the android world if it were more stable. For example something as simple as flashing back to stock on a custom rom-ed vibrant took me 3 tries with all the right files and I know its not my computer, used mine then a friends. I think I have a phobia of the phone to computer screen or yellow triangle lol
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But my main question is, Are the dangers worth the benefits with this phone? Im just scared because I got it for Christmas and Im in high school. If i brick Im pretty much S.O.L, I could never afford one and don't wanna go back to an HD2 haha
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I couldn't own a phone without root. Too many apps that need it, and too much bloat. Stock vs. how my phone is now, rooting and flashing a custom ROM is 100% worth it.
I rooted with superoneclick on 2.3.5. Does superoneclick work with 2.3.6?
IMHO there's no point in flashing superuser via cwm..... just flash a custom rom instead. Mr x has a 2.3.6 rom you can flash.
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I rooted with superoneclick on 2.3.5. Does superoneclick work with 2.3.6?
IMHO there's no point in flashing superuser via cwm..... just flash a custom rom instead. Mr x has a 2.3.6 rom you can flash.
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Flash recovery. Once recovery is good to go, its near impossible to break the phone just make a nandroid of your stock ROM and store it safley somewhere. Have fun flashing :-D
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found my answer
So I know the rule about never accepting otas but I was asked a question and couldn't remember. So if I accept an ota will it brick my phone or will it just update and unroot?
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depends on what you did to your phone with root access.
are you on stock? ROM?
Yea stock rom just rooted
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Well if you are on stock and you rooted, you will most likely lose your root (although some posts around here say that root aces is preserved during update in some rare cases).
If you are on a custom rom (e.g. if you installed an update using a custom recovery) and you are updating to a stock update then you will be likely screwing your phones system. depending on where you messed (or let a programmer mess using custom recovery or Rom managers) you could be bricking your phone as well since there are updates for boot and recovery in the stock updates to 4.0.2 and 4.0.4 (I don't count 4.0.3 since google pulled it off their site).
If you want a stock version of the newest android for your GN make it a manual patch by following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391881 make sure you do flash the boot, recovery and radio as well...
But before you do that check in with the forum thread or website were you got your custom rom or root method and ask them for advice, Yeah do that! It's the safest way to do something when you know how others got to the point where you wanna go!
Thx alot
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Please let us know how things worked out for you.
Hint: after following the steps above you are on the official google builds. Nice thing about that is you get new android versions as updates on the very second they are released. And most things that come with root are already available in the unrooted system (except overclocking) so why bother about root and stuff when you as a non-developing user can acces more priveleges on stock while rom builders for other phones try to keep up with YOUR system?
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I'm completely stock right now just a rooted 4.0.2 I will probably stay like this until cm9 becomes stable or AokP next milestone comes out because he current one did not agree with my phone at all
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Just picked one up yesterday after years of the iphone, Was wondering whats the best way and most up to date way to root the phone? Also would like advice on roms, etc etc.
droidgalaxy said:
Just picked one up yesterday after years of the iphone, Was wondering whats the best way and most up to date way to root the phone? Also would like advice on roms, etc etc.
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Quickest way is to use one of sfhub's many one-click stock-rooted options. From there you can install a custom recovery and then start ROM shopping, but please, please, please read everything thoroughly and ask questions 'before' flashing to avoid bricking your phone.
As far as custom ROMs it's going to depend on if you stay on GB or jump to ICS. I've only used Calkulin's GB ROMs and they are great, for ICS I've used Venum's ROMs, Agat63 and currently run Blu Kuban by Rujelus22.
Good luck and happy flashing, remember when in doubt ask and wait for an answer.
Link to sfhub's one-click for EL29 (GB)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
Link to sfhub's one-click for FF11 (ICS)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705730
Is there an advantage running ICS over GB? I will for sure ask questions if I have them, With the Iphone it was just one click and boom jailbroke, this seems a little more in detail, but doesn't mean Im not gonna give it a shot, lol
droidgalaxy said:
Is there an advantage running ICS over GB? I will for sure ask questions if I have them, With the Iphone it was just one click and boom jailbroke, this seems a little more in detail, but doesn't mean Im not gonna give it a shot, lol
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It really seems preference at this point, battery life for me on ICS isn't what it was on GB, but I'm on the latest release of ICS MIUI. LOVE IT. Have fun, and as mentioned, read the sticky relating to" how not to brick"
Have fun!
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So If I wanna try ICS do I root first then do ICS? Or does the program link you gave me root it also?
droidgalaxy said:
So If I wanna try ICS do I root first then do ICS? Or does the program link you gave me root it also?
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The linked program roots the phone as well as giving you the ability to easily flash a custom recovery. It is through that custom recovery that you will flash roms. Also get acquainted with ODIN! It is very important and you'll need to use that program if you decide to return to GB. Search qbking and EPIC4G Touch in you tube. He will walk you through the necessary steps.
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droidgalaxy said:
So If I wanna try ICS do I root first then do ICS? Or does the program link you gave me root it also?
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Look to be honest you came from the iPhone. I'm not starting a war here lol. Stick with GINGERBREAD for awhile, you will thank me! Flash different GINGERBREAD Roms! Why? Because you will get the hang of things! I bet one of your questions will be
"I flashed a recovery, but when I flashed a new rom, the old recovery I flashed is no longer there?"
Get use to the phone first. Read a lot we can't stress that enough. But if you need a guide to walk you through step by step I'm offering my help to you! & so you can see how Android is way better than iPhone! lol
Edit: I personally don't suggest you jump to ICS just yet. Because messing with ICS will cause you to brick your phone! Dead, wasted, basura, R.I.P..... so get the hang of things and remember ODIN & MOBILE ODIN IS YOUR BEST FRIEND
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Fair enough, I'll stick with GB for awhile. And take you up on your offer, lol
So if I want to try a different rom, how do we go about that? Do I need to root first?
droidgalaxy said:
Fair enough, I'll stick with GB for awhile. And take you up on your offer, lol
So if I want to try a different rom, how do we go about that? Do I need to root first?
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Yes you need root! Use Odin and flash this one click root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21053277
Once your done with that you will have a recovery you can use to flash different Gingerbread roms
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I have Galaxy Nexus, I was prompted to Install the Jelly Bean upgrade, but I don't want to.
I know there is a work around to have Flash working, but I don't want to part with Flash and its officla updates just yet. I don't see much gain on Jelly Bean at this moment. If I decide not to upgrade now, will I be able in the future? Will I be prompted again? I don't want to root my device.
Thank you for your assistance.
DigiPanda said:
I have Galaxy Nexus, I was prompted to Install the Jelly Bean upgrade, but I don't want to.
I know there is a work around to have Flash working, but I don't want to part with Flash and its officla updates just yet. I don't see much gain on Jelly Bean at this moment. If I decide not to upgrade now, will I be able in the future? Will I be prompted again? I don't want to root my device.
Thank you for your assistance.
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Keep denying it. Although you make absolutely no sense as to why you wouldn't want Jb. You can install flash and use it just the same. Also since you are upgrading its not going to magically disappear from your phone.
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From what I understand OTA Updates come in cycles and have deployment dates. I don't know if that is different between different carriers, phones, or OS levels, but there was a Gingerbread update on my other phone that is no longer available OTA. So it's possible, I guess, that eventually you may not be able to get it at all.
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From what I understand OTA Updates come in cycles and have deployment dates. I don't know if that is different between different carriers, phones, or OS levels, but there was a Gingerbread update on my other phone that is no longer available OTA. So it's possible, I guess, that eventually you may not be able to get it at all.
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Nope. Some phones may stop prompting you tho
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netbuzz said:
From what I understand OTA Updates come in cycles and have deployment dates. I don't know if that is different between different carriers, phones, or OS levels, but there was a Gingerbread update on my other phone that is no longer available OTA. So it's possible, I guess, that eventually you may not be able to get it at all.
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Actually, I just remembered that if you flash a custom Recovery that's one way of ensuring you won't be upgraded to JB automatically as that process requires a stock recovery.
Why you no wantz butter?
Take the update. Its well worth it.
Just install the flash apk
Project butter... I still love my iPhone, but I honestly believe my jelly beans running gnex is smoother. Project butter is amazing.
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DigiPanda said:
I have Galaxy Nexus, I was prompted to Install the Jelly Bean upgrade, but I don't want to.
I know there is a work around to have Flash working, but I don't want to part with Flash and its officla updates just yet. I don't see much gain on Jelly Bean at this moment. If I decide not to upgrade now, will I be able in the future? Will I be prompted again? I don't want to root my device.
Thank you for your assistance.
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Flash will remain on your phone if you already have it. Speaking of Flash, the last update on my PC for Firefox hosed my machine and I had to go back a few versions. Sometimes no updates is a good thing.
Yep, i have flash installed and its still there after jelly bean so...
Do it
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Actually, I just remembered that if you flash the Stock Recovery that's one way of ensuring you won't be upgraded.
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...if you flash a custom recovery, you wont be able to update through ota.
edit: it seems you can update with a custom recovery installed, but everything else needs to be stock.
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I'd say go with JB. I only really had ICS the first hour I had the phone (Although I used ICS on my work cell).
As others said, if you already have flash installed, you'll continue to have it. There is absolutely no excuse not to upgrade to jellybean.
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...if you flash a custom recovery, you wont be able to update through ota.
edit: it seems you can update with a custom recovery installed, but everything else needs to be stock.
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Yeah, thanks for correcting me, I meant to say "flashing custom recovery", not "stock recovery".
losing free hotspot
I know with verizon after jellybean you cannot be a free mobile hotspot using PDAnet
Which is what brings me here looking for a workaround so I dont have to install Jellybean