I don't really know much about overclocking but it is it worth it? And how do I do it?
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schust3r5 said:
I don't really know much about overclocking but it is it worth it? And how do I do it?
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Well its really a matter of taste. Overclocking makes the phone a bit snapier and makes large games a bit quicker, but it also eats away at your battery faster. In my opinion overclocking is not worth it based on the small performance boost and larger battery drain. I actually under clock and undervolt to get max battery life with little or no hit to performance.
To over/under clock/volt you need to be rooted and install a kernel that supports the features and is compatible with your type of rom. From there you can use scripts or one of several apps on the market to change the values to your liking.
schust3r5 said:
I don't really know much about overclocking but it is it worth it? And how do I do it?
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It makes your CPU run faster and things MAY be smoother for you. Is it worth it? Depends on how concerned for stability you are. Things could be more unstable for a possibly unnoticeable performance gain. This is coming from someone who enabled overclocking in his kernels.
If you think it's still worth it, you'd need to flash an appropriate custom kernel for the ROM you're using and install an app such as nofrills or incredicontrol or setcpu or system tuner (to name a few) to activate overclocking.
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I'm using XDA app and been searching forums on what kernals do, I'm running cm7 latest nighty with tiamat latest version. Not sure what all the features are , I know it does overclocking and under and voltage adjustments, just wondering if it was worth going to tiamat from cm7 kernal and if it gives better performance and better battery? Thanks
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fierceeagle2003 said:
I'm using XDA app and been searching forums on what kernals do, I'm running cm7 latest nighty with tiamat latest version. Not sure what all the features are , I know it does overclocking and under and voltage adjustments, just wondering if it was worth going to tiamat from cm7 kernal and if it gives better performance and better battery? Thanks
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Different kernels work better for different phones... give them a try (give it a few days) and see which works best for you! Like you said, undervolting, under/overclock, BFS, HAVS, CFS, all features to increase battery life and/or performance!
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The kernel is the part of the operating system that is in direct control of the hardware, its the lowest level of the OS. It controls the frequency the CPU runs at, how much power to pull from the battery, how to schedule I/O, how many frames per second animations run at, and things of that nature.
In my opinion, rooting is almost useless without flashing a custom kernel. Thats really the only way to increase the performance of your phone.
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The kernel is the part of the operating system that is in direct control of the hardware, its the lowest level of the OS. It controls the frequency the CPU runs at, how much power to pull from the battery, how to schedule I/O, how many frames per second animations run at, and things of that nature.
In my opinion, rooting is almost useless without flashing a custom kernel. Thats really the only way to increase the performance of your phone.
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Thanks..
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Is it worth rooting my phone and overclocking it?
Is overclocking it really noticable in performance to say approx 1.5GHz? And is it going to kill battery? Thanks
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Simmo3D said:
Is it worth rooting my phone and overclocking it?
Is overclocking it really noticable in performance to say approx 1.5GHz? And is it going to kill battery? Thanks
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Yes and Yes to both of your questions. There is a noticeable diffrence in performance when overclocking. But it will obviously use more battery
cant say ive noticed 1.5ghz killing my battery.. might be used a bit faster.. but u can easily offset this by lowering your clockspeed and voltage for your sleep state in addition to minimising the required voltage that 1.5ghz requires, id say my battery life is probably better overall, and i run 1.5ghz 24/7.
of course your mileage may vary depending on usage and various settings.
How hard is it to overclock it? My phone is rooted but I have no experience with overclocking.
I'm guessing it wouldn't be a wise idea?
Yeah this seems a little over my head.. thinking of buying another Xperia Play just to mod the crap out of.
Dont really wanna mess with the overlocking now I think about it incase I fry the chips and kill the phone.
At 1.4 and 1.5ghz its quite safe.
To chill out the battery put some screen off underclocking like at Real low with but not the least
1. 4 ghz scaling interactiveX I get 252/282 MS, thats pretty fast with nitro lag Nullifier too
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i currently overclocking my play to 1.6ghz and it runs fine.. games and apps run a lot more quicker
i'm quite interested in overclocking.. been thinking about it for the last months..
but i don't know, 1GHz is quite enough for me.. im not experiencing any slow down..
Well with 1.5Ghz then, you'll be amazed!
PsychoShaft said:
i currently overclocking my play to 1.6ghz and it runs fine.. games and apps run a lot more quicker
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Uaed same but not recommended, when you see problems cool it
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?
Using phone now but mostly use the pc
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Which one do you think provides the best battery life and performance?
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jbadboy2007 said:
Which one do you think provides the best battery life and performance?
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The one that shuts your phone completely off...LOL.
All kidding aside, the only thing I have seen actually provide better battery life with these is to lower the max speed. Even the author of SetCPU says you can have performance or better battery life, not both. I believe SetCPU provides more options for profiles whereas Voltage control lets you play with voltages which of course is very dangerous for stability. There are so many options in both that it will be hard to get a definitive answer and since every phone is different, Your Mileage May Vary.
kennyglass123 said:
The one that shuts your phone completely off...LOL.
All kidding aside, the only thing I have seen actually provide better battery life with these is to lower the max speed. Even the author of SetCPU says you can have performance or better battery life, not both. I believe SetCPU provides more options for profiles whereas Voltage control lets you play with voltages which of course is very dangerous for stability. There are so many options in both that it will be hard to get a definitive answer and since every phone is different, Your Mileage May Vary.
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With voltage control (and now setcpu), you can undervolt and overclock which could theoretically give you performance and speed. I'm a setcpu supporter, btw.
Tegrak. 'nuff said
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kennyglass123 said:
The one that shuts your phone completely off...LOL.
All kidding aside, the only thing I have seen actually provide better battery life with these is to lower the max speed. Even the author of SetCPU says you can have performance or better battery life, not both. I believe SetCPU provides more options for profiles whereas Voltage control lets you play with voltages which of course is very dangerous for stability. There are so many options in both that it will be hard to get a definitive answer and since every phone is different, Your Mileage May Vary.
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Very well put,,
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I like SetCPU myself , but mainly because my phone doesn't do well with undervolting
Did setcpu in the past dropped for tegrak.....way better!
rootxda said:
Did setcpu in the past dropped for tegrak.....way better!
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I'm undervolting with tegrak right now because I can't with setcpu. Definitely worth the money
It also depends what you are running. Voltage Control won't work with Gingerbread leaks and Tegrak with SetCPU is working nicely to prevent the random reboots in the leaks.
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Tegrak. 'nuff said
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Same here...
I used Voltage Control on my phone and SetCPU on my tab.
I support setcpu, i use it well, as u concerned thd battery life, so lower the max frequency, hope to help u!
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Does anybody know if having the normal settings are better or under clocking (say 1Ghz) for battery for this particular phone?
I also know that a higher speed can perform the calculations faster and thus save power. But, I'm just curious if there is a sweet spot.
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Have you tried under volting, by using a custom kernel. Word of warning not all CPU built equal.
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I'm using Faux's kernel which had reduced voltage setting already.
I'm just curious.
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The best way to really tell woukd be to step the max freq. down by one or two and run it for a day or two. If it runs stable and you don't notice any issues you'll prob be good to go. My guess would be running between 1.2-1.3ghz would be a good spot.
I'm honestly not sure you'd see much difference in battery though since its probably running much slower than that most of the time its not sleeping anyway.
Plus I think I remember seeing somewhere that the power used to run at 1.5 is the same it uses to run at 1.3.
If your going to see improvement in battery its more likely you'll get that from voltage adjustments and your governor choice. You'd probably be best served by reading through the kernel thread to see what others have tried and reported.
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DocHoliday77 said:
The best way to really tell woukd be to step the max freq. down by one or two and run it for a day or two. If it runs stable and you don't notice any issues you'll prob be good to go. My guess would be running between 1.2-1.3ghz would be a good spot.
I'm honestly not sure you'd see much difference in battery though since its probably running much slower than that most of the time its not sleeping anyway.
Plus I think I remember seeing somewhere that the power used to run at 1.5 is the same it uses to run at 1.3.
If your going to see improvement in battery its more likely you'll get that from voltage adjustments and your governor choice. You'd probably be best served by reading through the kernel thread to see what others have tried and reported.
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That make sense.
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Ive been working(slowly due to work) on a kernel for the lgog. I've been able to do some pretty heavy overclocking but I need some community preference.
Overclocking obviously causes more heat and reduced battery life. Higher overclocks require overvolting beyond required to maintain 1.5ghz set by Qualcomm/lg. Keep this in mind before asking for 2.0+ overclocks in daily kernels.
What top clock are you guys wanting for a performance kernel? Also are you guys interested in a reduced clocks kernel. 1.0-1.2 top clock with a lowered low end clock along with lower GPU and system clocks.
Personally I Dont see a big need in heavy overclocking on a quad core. However I would like some opinions before I release test kernels. I will attempt to see just how far the lgog can go at least once, but that will take around 10-20 test kernels to find the top speed.
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I like the idea about under clocking. This bad boys fast already. The battery savings would be nice.
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The highest overclock that I would like to see is around 1.7-1.8Ghz even though I don't know what I would need my phone running that fast for. Now the under clocked kernel sounds very interesting .
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Would like to see underclocked as well. Phone is plenty fast.
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I don't see a need for anything over 1.6. The underclocking idea sounds great though
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Just looking at how this governor uses CPU, it hardly uses the middle ranges. Maybe some better governors? Just another thought.
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I would be interested in a kernel with A 1.8 top speed slightly lower bottom end and different governors. While 1.5 is fast 1.8 with a better governor along with a 128 minimum speed would be a good comprise kernel
I don't know of anyone having speed issues to warrant an over clocking kernel, seems more for bragging rights.
I think most people would want a kernel that saves battery but doesn't compromise on speed. Also, have you looked into the wake lock issue yet?
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I would love to see some undervolting, while maintaining a decent clock rate. Battery life is important, but i love to game too and wanna see consistent framerates.
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I say use 1.7 max
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is it hard to do 2 kernels? one for everyday use and other for some extra situations...
underclocked and overclocked...
as for me...i would like to see
-voltage control in apps (undervolting)
-usb otg
engine95 said:
Just looking at how this governor uses CPU, it hardly uses the middle ranges. Maybe some better governors? Just another thought.
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You can pick other governors already but i do plan on adding a couple extra
bizzshow26 said:
I would be interested in a kernel with A 1.8 top speed slightly lower bottom end and different governors. While 1.5 is fast 1.8 with a better governor along with a 128 minimum speed would be a good comprise kernel
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You won't see a 128 min. I'll be lucky if I get 256 stable, but it is in the works
johnq54 said:
I don't know of anyone having speed issues to warrant an over clocking kernel, seems more for bragging rights.
I think most people would want a kernel that saves battery but doesn't compromise on speed. Also, have you looked into the wake lock issue yet?
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Wake lock fixed by Qualcomm. Just gotta add it.
agurzhiy said:
is it hard to do 2 kernels? one for everyday use and other for some extra situations...
underclocked and overclocked...
as for me...i would like to see
-voltage control in apps (undervolting)
-usb otg
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I'll probably use faux's volt control. This is my first Qualcomm kernel so I've been mainly running through it. The n4 is far far far cleaner. Our source is a jumbled mess to an extent.
Also the other devs have found a way to run n4 stock ROM with kernel. However finding the best way for everyone to benefit is being sought after.
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Faster=Better
Faster is always better in my book. Pump that baby into overdrive!
if n4 kernel is portable to us, than usb otg - too???
and is n4 better?
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Faster is always better in my book. Pump that baby into overdrive!
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Something to consider. The n4 if pushed to far will actually brick. Our device might be the same.
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Haven't looked but how far can most n4 go I hope it can take at least a 300mhz oc.
jokersax11 said:
Wake lock fixed by Qualcomm. Just gotta add it.
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I am having huge wakelock issues. Will this is implemented in a future kernel from you or is this already available to use?
I think he meant Quallcom fixed it with a patch so once the kernel is build he can add that patch into his kernel along with whatever other option he chooses to build it with
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I think he meant Quallcom fixed it with a patch so once the kernel is build he can add that patch into his kernel along with whatever other option he chooses to build it with
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Correct
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I think he meant Quallcom fixed it with a patch so once the kernel is build he can add that patch into his kernel along with whatever other option he chooses to build it with
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I know what he meant, I saw a kernel that has been floating around, didn't know if that had it implemented or not.
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Correct
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Thanks man!