Setcpu or voltage control? - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Which one do you think provides the best battery life and performance?
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jbadboy2007 said:
Which one do you think provides the best battery life and performance?
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The one that shuts your phone completely off...LOL.
All kidding aside, the only thing I have seen actually provide better battery life with these is to lower the max speed. Even the author of SetCPU says you can have performance or better battery life, not both. I believe SetCPU provides more options for profiles whereas Voltage control lets you play with voltages which of course is very dangerous for stability. There are so many options in both that it will be hard to get a definitive answer and since every phone is different, Your Mileage May Vary.

kennyglass123 said:
The one that shuts your phone completely off...LOL.
All kidding aside, the only thing I have seen actually provide better battery life with these is to lower the max speed. Even the author of SetCPU says you can have performance or better battery life, not both. I believe SetCPU provides more options for profiles whereas Voltage control lets you play with voltages which of course is very dangerous for stability. There are so many options in both that it will be hard to get a definitive answer and since every phone is different, Your Mileage May Vary.
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With voltage control (and now setcpu), you can undervolt and overclock which could theoretically give you performance and speed. I'm a setcpu supporter, btw.

Tegrak. 'nuff said
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kennyglass123 said:
The one that shuts your phone completely off...LOL.
All kidding aside, the only thing I have seen actually provide better battery life with these is to lower the max speed. Even the author of SetCPU says you can have performance or better battery life, not both. I believe SetCPU provides more options for profiles whereas Voltage control lets you play with voltages which of course is very dangerous for stability. There are so many options in both that it will be hard to get a definitive answer and since every phone is different, Your Mileage May Vary.
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Very well put,,
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I like SetCPU myself , but mainly because my phone doesn't do well with undervolting

Did setcpu in the past dropped for tegrak.....way better!

rootxda said:
Did setcpu in the past dropped for tegrak.....way better!
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I'm undervolting with tegrak right now because I can't with setcpu. Definitely worth the money

It also depends what you are running. Voltage Control won't work with Gingerbread leaks and Tegrak with SetCPU is working nicely to prevent the random reboots in the leaks.

xopher.hunter said:
Tegrak. 'nuff said
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Same here...

I used Voltage Control on my phone and SetCPU on my tab.

I support setcpu, i use it well, as u concerned thd battery life, so lower the max frequency, hope to help u!
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Voltage control settings

Hello i been wanting to see what kind of settings people have on their voltage control that give them great battery life. I currently have -75 on everything from 1ghz all the way down and -50 at 200mhz. I'm getting pretty good life on that. Anything better?
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Sangredelsalvador said:
Hello i been wanting to see what kind of settings people have on their voltage control that give them great battery life. I currently have -75 on everything from 1ghz all the way down and -50 at 200mhz. I'm getting pretty good life on that. Anything better?
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Every phone is different. You have to find the numbers that work best for you with no freezes, force closes or not waking up.

Stock vs Overclocked

Is it worth rooting my phone and overclocking it?
Is overclocking it really noticable in performance to say approx 1.5GHz? And is it going to kill battery? Thanks
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Simmo3D said:
Is it worth rooting my phone and overclocking it?
Is overclocking it really noticable in performance to say approx 1.5GHz? And is it going to kill battery? Thanks
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Yes and Yes to both of your questions. There is a noticeable diffrence in performance when overclocking. But it will obviously use more battery
cant say ive noticed 1.5ghz killing my battery.. might be used a bit faster.. but u can easily offset this by lowering your clockspeed and voltage for your sleep state in addition to minimising the required voltage that 1.5ghz requires, id say my battery life is probably better overall, and i run 1.5ghz 24/7.
of course your mileage may vary depending on usage and various settings.
How hard is it to overclock it? My phone is rooted but I have no experience with overclocking.
I'm guessing it wouldn't be a wise idea?
Yeah this seems a little over my head.. thinking of buying another Xperia Play just to mod the crap out of.
Dont really wanna mess with the overlocking now I think about it incase I fry the chips and kill the phone.
At 1.4 and 1.5ghz its quite safe.
To chill out the battery put some screen off underclocking like at Real low with but not the least
1. 4 ghz scaling interactiveX I get 252/282 MS, thats pretty fast with nitro lag Nullifier too
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i currently overclocking my play to 1.6ghz and it runs fine.. games and apps run a lot more quicker
i'm quite interested in overclocking.. been thinking about it for the last months..
but i don't know, 1GHz is quite enough for me.. im not experiencing any slow down..
Well with 1.5Ghz then, you'll be amazed!
PsychoShaft said:
i currently overclocking my play to 1.6ghz and it runs fine.. games and apps run a lot more quicker
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Uaed same but not recommended, when you see problems cool it
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?
Using phone now but mostly use the pc
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Undervolting//how low can your phone go :D

just a little information/ competition to see which SGS2 is the best , i want to see how low of a voltage you can go. I am using Stability test to test out the voltage, 3 round of classic test at 1.73ghz at 1125mV, and it stable, a little scare to go down more but here some info on my SGS2
running
beastmod 4.2
kernel 2.3.6
Was running originally at 1175 but i undervolt to 1125 and running stable at a stable temp of 41-42..
what's yours
be careful with such drastic undervolting at those frequencies, could result in corrupt nand.
G1_enthusiast said:
just a little information/ competition to see which SGS2 is the best , i want to see how low of a voltage you can go. I am using Stability test to test out the voltage, 3 round of classic test at 1.73ghz at 1125mhz, and it stable, a little scare to go down more but here some info on my SGS2
running
beastmod 4.2
kernel 2.3.6
Was running originally at 1175 but i undervolt to 1125 and running stable at a stable temp of 41-42..
what's yours
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This isn't undrevolting..... this is underclocking.
Undervolting is pretty dangerous with trial and error. The lowest I'll go is -75.
And my frequencies at min 384 and mas 1350 ondemand
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xxKamikazexx said:
This isn't undrevolting..... this is underclocking.
Undervolting is pretty dangerous with trial and error. The lowest I'll go is -75.
And my frequencies at min 384 and mas 1350 ondemand
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no underclocking meaning i would use less ghz than the stock, this is minimizing the voltage on the core.
what your doing is underclock, i put mine fixed on 1.73ghz at 1125mV of voltage
icenight89 said:
be careful with such drastic undervolting at those frequencies, could result in corrupt nand.
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I have never heard of such thing, i'm not doubting you but from over the years, i heard undervolting have positive affect on the CPU by lowering temp and give battery more juice.
where did you get those facts from?
G1_enthusiast said:
no underclocking meaning i would use less ghz than the stock, this is minimizing the voltage on the core.
what your doing is underclock, i put mine fixed on 1.73ghz at 1125mV of voltage
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Ohhhh my mistake, I didn't catch the mv after the 1125 lol that's why I thought you were only messing with ghz ha ha ha
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xxKamikazexx said:
This isn't undrevolting..... this is underclocking.
Undervolting is pretty dangerous with trial and error. The lowest I'll go is -75.
And my frequencies at min 384 and mas 1350 ondemand
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As far as I know, there are no dangers associated with undervolting. I run at those frequencies too at -112.5 and have never had a problem of any sort.
I run about 1ghz. No under volt with this ics kernel but with my old gb kernel I undervilted with faux -100 at 1ghz...ran cool even with games and video, great battery life. And honestly 1ghz is plenty for snappy fast speed
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i also run 1ghz, runs super smooth across the board
zander21510 said:
I run about 1ghz. No under volt with this ics kernel but with my old gb kernel I undervilted with faux -100 at 1ghz...ran cool even with games and video, great battery life. And honestly 1ghz is plenty for snappy fast speed
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How did you undervolt by -100?
yoft1 said:
As far as I know, there are no dangers associated with undervolting. I run at those frequencies too at -112.5 and have never had a problem of any sort.
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I don't know if you're familiar with overclocking, but the same type of stability issues can occur. When you're undervolting you can think of your stock speed as an "overclock" and you're just trying to minimize the voltage necessary for stability. If you undervolt too much you can experience freezing, corruption, bad lag, etc. It's all the same process for desktop computers, laptops, and anything else you can play with the voltage.
Personally I'm at -62.5, but after seeing how low people are going I might be a bit more adventurous. Don't use the "Set at Boot" option when you're experimenting.
SupaKid said:
How did you undervolt by -100?
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I did it gradually...and the fact that I was at 1ghz might have also made it possible. Started at -50 since most had said it was safe...then tried 60 then 75 then 90 then maxed at 100...worked beautifully.
I have heard and it is true that phones are made very different. Some exact same models can't oc or UV as high or low as others...I got lucky with a really good model...my old nexus S couldn't oc to 1.4 without freezing while others could.
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Nice!
Could I try your script?
SupaKid said:
Nice!
Could I try your script?
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My bet is he used romanbb's FauxClock (which maxes out at -100mv).
What's the best app to under volt with?
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asting said:
I don't know if you're familiar with overclocking, but the same type of stability issues can occur. When you're undervolting you can think of your stock speed as an "overclock" and you're just trying to minimize the voltage necessary for stability. If you undervolt too much you can experience freezing, corruption, bad lag, etc. It's all the same process for desktop computers, laptops, and anything else you can play with the voltage.
Personally I'm at -62.5, but after seeing how low people are going I might be a bit more adventurous. Don't use the "Set at Boot" option when you're experimenting.
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Right, I meant that there are no risks to undervolting in terms of physical damage to your phone, only stability issues which is fixed with a reboot, assuming you didn't set at boot. Overclocking is a bit different in that the risk overclocking presents in addition to stability issues is the risk of overheating which can permanently damage your phone. Undervolting can compensate for this somewhat by letting the power supplied to the processor and thus reducing the risk of overheat.
hiz99 said:
What's the best app to under volt with?
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I use system tuner, you can also look for Gideons script that is flashable in cwm to undervolt.
Im undervolted to -75mv for quite some time running a script clocked at 1.518min384
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I have Gideon's OC/UV script. How could I edit it to undervolt by -100?
SupaKid said:
Nice!
Could I try your script?
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yup that's what I used lol.

Regular CPU Settings or Reduced CPU for Battery

Does anybody know if having the normal settings are better or under clocking (say 1Ghz) for battery for this particular phone?
I also know that a higher speed can perform the calculations faster and thus save power. But, I'm just curious if there is a sweet spot.
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Have you tried under volting, by using a custom kernel. Word of warning not all CPU built equal.
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I'm using Faux's kernel which had reduced voltage setting already.
I'm just curious.
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The best way to really tell woukd be to step the max freq. down by one or two and run it for a day or two. If it runs stable and you don't notice any issues you'll prob be good to go. My guess would be running between 1.2-1.3ghz would be a good spot.
I'm honestly not sure you'd see much difference in battery though since its probably running much slower than that most of the time its not sleeping anyway.
Plus I think I remember seeing somewhere that the power used to run at 1.5 is the same it uses to run at 1.3.
If your going to see improvement in battery its more likely you'll get that from voltage adjustments and your governor choice. You'd probably be best served by reading through the kernel thread to see what others have tried and reported.
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DocHoliday77 said:
The best way to really tell woukd be to step the max freq. down by one or two and run it for a day or two. If it runs stable and you don't notice any issues you'll prob be good to go. My guess would be running between 1.2-1.3ghz would be a good spot.
I'm honestly not sure you'd see much difference in battery though since its probably running much slower than that most of the time its not sleeping anyway.
Plus I think I remember seeing somewhere that the power used to run at 1.5 is the same it uses to run at 1.3.
If your going to see improvement in battery its more likely you'll get that from voltage adjustments and your governor choice. You'd probably be best served by reading through the kernel thread to see what others have tried and reported.
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That make sense.
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[Mod] Thermaconfig changes for Better Performance

Hi All,
There are modifications for the thermald.conf, which controls your CPU and GPU after a certain temperature.
I've modified the file to fit different profiles that'll work for people. So without further ado, here are the profiles.
Remember to backup before flashing, and not responsible for bricks and blah an blah, but if you do happen to
here's the guide on soft-bricking Guide
Stock
This is the stock file with no change.
Stock Therma
Optimized Stock
This is a slightly optimized stock that deals with the overheating and throttles the CPU and GPU properly.
Optimized Stock
Gaming
This prioritizes the GPU for gaming over any other feature
Gaming Therma
Gaming (Plus Battery Saver)
This prioritizes gaming; however, also throttles your CPU to help save battery.
Gaming Therma + Battery Saver
Better CPU
This is probably the best battery saver; however, it drastically throttles the GPU.
Better CPU
Full Power
Ignores any throttling rules, but battery drain will happen. And phone will overheat quicker. However, you'll experience the fastest speeds.
Full Power
Best Battery and Overheating
This sacrifices performance to optimize battery and subdue the heating issues.
Best Battery
Sweet, thank you
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How does this differ from Eco-Mode in terms of cpu throttling? Or is this strictly throttling for the GPU, and has nothing to do with the CPU?
Carrick1973 said:
How does this differ from Eco-Mode in terms of CPU throttling? Or is this strictly throttling for the GPU, and has nothing to do with the CPU?
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Eco-mode utilizes two cores rather than all four.
This mod is based on temperature, and throttles according to the devices temperature. Currently, throttling already happens when the phone reaches a certain temp; however, this mod alters the throttling to either enforce stricter rules, or ignore the throttling completely.
AdriVelazquez said:
Eco-mode utilizes two cores rather than all four.
This mod is based on temperature, and throttles according to the devices temperature. Currently, throttling already happens when the phone reaches a certain temp; however, this mod alters the throttling to either enforce stricter rules, or ignore the throttling completely.
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Will it help with the heating problem everyone has?
cthedogg said:
Will it help with the heating problem everyone has?
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It can; however, you'll be sacrificing performance.
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It can; however, you'll be sacrificing performance.
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Good enough for me.
cthedogg said:
Good enough for me.
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how could i reverse it if I don't like it?
angelpenny48 said:
how could i reverse it if I don't like it?
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Flash the stock zip.
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I add an optimized stock that scales the throttling more optimally.
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Question. Will it affect that stupid bug that they keep on this phone that as soon as the phone is a tiny bit hot the brightness lowers and will not let you make it higher until it cools off even though the phones not really that hot?and what is this heating problem everyone has? My phone never gets hot!! Never! 90° and screen brightness lowers... Is that what post meant? Cuz ya I just mentioned that but real heat.. .never
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Crwolv said:
Question. Will it affect that stupid bug that they keep on this phone that as soon as the phone is a tiny bit hot the brightness lowers and will not let you make it higher until it cools off even though the phones not really that hot?and what is this heating problem everyone has? My phone never gets hot!! Never! 90° and screen brightness lowers... Is that what post meant? Cuz ya I just mentioned that but real heat.. .never
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Yes, this can deal with that; however, I still enforced the rule to lower brightness if the phone reaches a certain temperature.
Despite the fact the phone doesn't feel hot, the temperature my very well be on the rise.
I would recommend that you use the optimized stock. This version would scale the phone better, and never really overheat this never causing the brightness to go down.
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Most of the links say server offline. Is that normal at times?
bowhunt2005 said:
Most of the links say server offline. Is that normal at times?
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it's just goo.im doing site maintenance. It looks like it's a ll back up. .
Will these still work on zvb?
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AOKPBrownNoser said:
Will these still work on zvb?
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Probably stick with this thread, posted under general, for now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173118
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