Regular CPU Settings or Reduced CPU for Battery - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

Does anybody know if having the normal settings are better or under clocking (say 1Ghz) for battery for this particular phone?
I also know that a higher speed can perform the calculations faster and thus save power. But, I'm just curious if there is a sweet spot.
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Have you tried under volting, by using a custom kernel. Word of warning not all CPU built equal.
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I'm using Faux's kernel which had reduced voltage setting already.
I'm just curious.
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The best way to really tell woukd be to step the max freq. down by one or two and run it for a day or two. If it runs stable and you don't notice any issues you'll prob be good to go. My guess would be running between 1.2-1.3ghz would be a good spot.
I'm honestly not sure you'd see much difference in battery though since its probably running much slower than that most of the time its not sleeping anyway.
Plus I think I remember seeing somewhere that the power used to run at 1.5 is the same it uses to run at 1.3.
If your going to see improvement in battery its more likely you'll get that from voltage adjustments and your governor choice. You'd probably be best served by reading through the kernel thread to see what others have tried and reported.
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DocHoliday77 said:
The best way to really tell woukd be to step the max freq. down by one or two and run it for a day or two. If it runs stable and you don't notice any issues you'll prob be good to go. My guess would be running between 1.2-1.3ghz would be a good spot.
I'm honestly not sure you'd see much difference in battery though since its probably running much slower than that most of the time its not sleeping anyway.
Plus I think I remember seeing somewhere that the power used to run at 1.5 is the same it uses to run at 1.3.
If your going to see improvement in battery its more likely you'll get that from voltage adjustments and your governor choice. You'd probably be best served by reading through the kernel thread to see what others have tried and reported.
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Darkside kernel questions.

So I'm currently running Juggs 5.0 and using the Darkside kernel. First day was rocky but relished it and love how smooth it is. Now am just testing the battery life. Here are much questions... 1) I was using cpu tune for my Faux kernel and used different profiles for it. Since I have Gideons script can I still do that? 2) Do you recommend it since I have this script? 3) I want my phone to not use hardly any battery when at rest or sleep, what's the best way to do this with the info I have given? Also I am using juice defender. Thanks in advance fellas !!
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suaverc118 said:
So I'm currently running Juggs 5.0 and using the Darkside kernel. First day was rocky but relished it and love how smooth it is. Now am just testing the battery life. Here are much questions... 1) I was using cpu tune for my Faux kernel and used different profiles for it. Since I have Gideons script can I still do that? 2) Do you recommend it since I have this script? 3) I want my phone to not use hardly any battery when at rest or sleep, what's the best way to do this with the info I have given? Also I am using juice defender. Thanks in advance fellas !!
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1) Yes but I wouldn't recommend it, its equivalent to having two CPU apps, they'll conflict, so pick one
2) See point one
3) Make sure your phone is deep sleeping, by using CPU spy and betterbatterystats to avoid app wake locks, which keep your phone from entering deep sleep and draining more battery.
For better performance all around (including deep sleep) i recommend undervolting with either faux clock or system tuner. Gideon script can also be modified to undervolt more if you read up on it a little.
As a side note, the general consensus among power users is that juice defender sucks. It drains more than it saves
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1) Yes but I wouldn't recommend it, its equivalent to having two CPU apps, they'll conflict, so pick one
2) See point one
3) Make sure your phone is deep sleeping, by using CPU spy and betterbatterystats to avoid app wake locks, which keep your phone from entering deep sleep and draining more battery.
For better performance all around (including deep sleep) i recommend undervolting with either faux clock or system tuner. Gideon script can also be modified to undervolt more if you read up on it a little.
As a side note, the general consensus among power users is that juice defender sucks. It drains more than it saves
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1) thanks. I think I will delete this app for this particular app
2)got it
3)I downloaded them and will need to learn more about wakelocks.
Have never heard if this.
Here are my stats.
384 mhz 33%
1080 mhz 13%
Total state time 4:30.30
Deepsleep 47%
Ill try a tune to see which is best for undervolting . Thanks for your assistance
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Ok partial wakelocks unplugged had juicedefender at 11 mins and 4.1%. Partial since charged JD is 29 mins 3.8% and activity manager launcher .8%.... This is what I got. So is JD really draining more than it saves? Just curious.
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suaverc118 said:
Ok partial wakelocks unplugged had juicedefender at 11 mins and 4.1%. Partial since charged JD is 29 mins 3.8% and activity manager launcher .8%.... This is what I got. So is JD really draining more than it saves? Just curious.
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yup, it causes all those wake locks ur reading about. No point having an app the reportedly saves battery life but really just prevents deep sleep?? kinda useless in my opinion lol
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yup, it causes all those wake locks ur reading about. No point having an app the reportedly saves battery life but really just prevents deep sleep?? kinda useless in my opinion lol
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Got it. So my kernel will kill the radio and etc that JD already does and save me battery? Because that is what JD is for right? Also I can't find faux clock on the market.
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Actually I found it another way. I remember reading something at one time about undervolting and I may be wrong, but should I try at -25mv increments??
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Got it. So my kernel will kill the radio and etc that JD already does and save me battery? Because that is what JD is for right? Also I can't find faux clock on the market.
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No, a kernel won't kill the radio. Jd sucks, and it eats up more battery than it saves. Having your radios shut off makes a smartphone dumb. Run gideons script and call it a day.
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OK so here is my current stats.
Deepsleep 73%
384MHz 14%
1188MHz 8%
Battery stats say it's been unplugged for 10h 4m with 50% left.
My question is why isn't my phone using the higher 1188 and using the lower number? So does this.mean my phone is moving at a slow rate? Thanks again!
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Oh on my darkside kernel using Gideon's script -50v setting and I went ahead and did my own-50v as well. Any tips??
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suaverc118 said:
OK so here is my current stats.
Deepsleep 73%
384MHz 14%
1188MHz 8%
Battery stats say it's been unplugged for 10h 4m with 50% left.
My question is why isn't my phone using the higher 1188 and using the lower number? So does this.mean my phone is moving at a slow rate? Thanks again!
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Did you read what the script does? It underclocks your cpu and undervolts it
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Did you read what the script does? It underclocks your cpu and undervolts it
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Yeah I know that but I still don't know a lot about it still. I have to read here and there and processing time for me may not be as quick as some of y'all But what I thought underclocking was is it is going below the standard speed that my phone typically does like 1242. So it would run at 1080 or whatever rate I chose. So I guess I'm wondering is when does it decide to run at whatever MHz it runs at? So the numbers I showed, is that about right or good? Again thanks
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Yeah I know that but I still don't know a lot about it still. I have to read here and there and processing time for me may not be as quick as some of y'all But what I thought underclocking was is it is going below the standard speed that my phone typically does like 1242. So it would run at 1080 or whatever rate I chose. So I guess I'm wondering is when does it decide to run at whatever MHz it runs at? So the numbers I showed, is that about right or good? Again thanks
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It scales up depending on CPU load, and the governor used
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xcrazydx said:
It scales up depending on CPU load, and the governor used
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Thanks for your patients dude. I'm assuming mine is running the way it's supposed to be. No lags that I can notice even with me undervolting a little more.
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Thanks for your patients dude. I'm assuming mine is running the way it's supposed to be. No lags that I can notice even with me undervolting a little more.
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Sounds like it's doing just fine to me! Don't be afraid to push the thanks button, lol
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Sounds like it's doing just fine to me! Don't be afraid to push the thanks button, lol
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Oh yeah, my bad LOL!
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Quadrant Standard Score

This is unbelievable, this phone gets faster BY the minute
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Hows your cpu set up and governors ro achieve thatscore
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Hows your cpu set up and governors ro achieve thatscore
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It's more based on how the rom works, and the kernel yes helps with CPU and GPU scores but I noticed his GPU scores are lower than mine, one of the nation reasons I'm still stock. Because it's probably persues kernel and has issues with FPS in real world and quadrant performance.
He probably ran it 1600/1600 on performance or something on those lines
Edit: this is mine stock rooted GPU much better than his, until persues can match this without overclocking the GPU just to get the same performance I do on stock I'm not switching.
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Overclocked at 1.9ghz and gpu to 640 mhz with specific undervolting. Redpill kernel...
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Whats your battery life like? 1.9 is amazing
Lol see if that thing isn't a brick after a week of use.
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Lmao this guy^^^^^ op dont let him scare you. Talk when it has actually happend if so care to share the story?
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Lmao this guy^^^^^ op dont let him scare you. Talk when it has actually happend if so care to share the story?
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Maybe you should consider that you're not the brightest, most experienced person in this thread before talking smack.
Exposing a component to more heat means you are shortening its life, there is no doubt about that. Those with overclocked desktop CPUs often have elaborate setups with overclocking in mind. You can't add a better heatsink, or a fan to your phone. Mobile CPUs, especially, are designed to be efficient at a certain range of clock frequencies. Moving it too far from the norm means you eventually see diminishing returns.
I've fried everything from my first Commodore 64 to my current box, and everything in between. If you think the phone can function at that level for an extended period of time without failure, best of luck to you.
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swalter718 said:
Lol see if that thing isn't a brick after a week of use.
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Dude it was part of the whole meaning of rooting and tweaking. Checking different settings for a little bit, testing them and then reverting back to defaults. I will never leave overclocked/ undervolted or vice-versa settings for a whole day... its just part of the fun of tweaking and experimenting with our devices...
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I am all for overclocking, modding, tweaking, hacking, etc. Breaking **** is the best way to learn. But that doesn't mean you should push your hardware past the point of exponentially diminishing returns, and increased risk of burning your chips out. That is, unless, you have no problem with the very real possibility that you'll need to buy a new phone.
That being said, kudos on "going plaid" with your Quadrant score
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I am all for overclocking, modding, tweaking, hacking, etc. Breaking **** is the best way to learn. But that doesn't mean you should push your hardware past the point of exponentially diminishing returns, and increased risk of burning your chips out. That is, unless, you have no problem with the very real possibility that you'll need to buy a new phone.
That being said, kudos on "going plaid" with your Quadrant score
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Im with you 100% thus my paranoia about leaving the tweaked cpu/gpu settings for more than an hour or so... Too "paranoid android"
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redpill?
friedrich420 said:
Overclocked at 1.9ghz and gpu to 640 mhz with specific undervolting. Redpill kernel...
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How is the kernel treating ya? Which one did you flash?
XxLostSoulxX said:
It's more based on how the rom works, and the kernel yes helps with CPU and GPU scores but I noticed his GPU scores are lower than mine, one of the nation reasons I'm still stock. Because it's probably persues kernel and has issues with FPS in real world and quadrant performance.
He probably ran it 1600/1600 on performance or something on those lines
Edit: this is mine stock rooted GPU much better than his, until persues can match this without overclocking the GPU just to get the same performance I do on stock I'm not switching.
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I'm stock rooted for this very reason.
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How is the kernel treating ya? Which one did you flash?
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Its the Redpill v1.42... I prefer it compared to all the others i used ( stock, perseus, n.e.a.k., note2core). Those results were with stock rom but redpill kernel. Im a fan of omega but today i discovered another Rom (Hawkish extreme series Rom for N7100). I may try Perseus with that rom and see how it treats it...
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Kernel inquiry

Ive been working(slowly due to work) on a kernel for the lgog. I've been able to do some pretty heavy overclocking but I need some community preference.
Overclocking obviously causes more heat and reduced battery life. Higher overclocks require overvolting beyond required to maintain 1.5ghz set by Qualcomm/lg. Keep this in mind before asking for 2.0+ overclocks in daily kernels.
What top clock are you guys wanting for a performance kernel? Also are you guys interested in a reduced clocks kernel. 1.0-1.2 top clock with a lowered low end clock along with lower GPU and system clocks.
Personally I Dont see a big need in heavy overclocking on a quad core. However I would like some opinions before I release test kernels. I will attempt to see just how far the lgog can go at least once, but that will take around 10-20 test kernels to find the top speed.
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I like the idea about under clocking. This bad boys fast already. The battery savings would be nice.
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The highest overclock that I would like to see is around 1.7-1.8Ghz even though I don't know what I would need my phone running that fast for. Now the under clocked kernel sounds very interesting .
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Would like to see underclocked as well. Phone is plenty fast.
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I don't see a need for anything over 1.6. The underclocking idea sounds great though
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Just looking at how this governor uses CPU, it hardly uses the middle ranges. Maybe some better governors? Just another thought.
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I would be interested in a kernel with A 1.8 top speed slightly lower bottom end and different governors. While 1.5 is fast 1.8 with a better governor along with a 128 minimum speed would be a good comprise kernel
I don't know of anyone having speed issues to warrant an over clocking kernel, seems more for bragging rights.
I think most people would want a kernel that saves battery but doesn't compromise on speed. Also, have you looked into the wake lock issue yet?
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I would love to see some undervolting, while maintaining a decent clock rate. Battery life is important, but i love to game too and wanna see consistent framerates.
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I say use 1.7 max
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is it hard to do 2 kernels? one for everyday use and other for some extra situations...
underclocked and overclocked...
as for me...i would like to see
-voltage control in apps (undervolting)
-usb otg
engine95 said:
Just looking at how this governor uses CPU, it hardly uses the middle ranges. Maybe some better governors? Just another thought.
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You can pick other governors already but i do plan on adding a couple extra
bizzshow26 said:
I would be interested in a kernel with A 1.8 top speed slightly lower bottom end and different governors. While 1.5 is fast 1.8 with a better governor along with a 128 minimum speed would be a good comprise kernel
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You won't see a 128 min. I'll be lucky if I get 256 stable, but it is in the works
johnq54 said:
I don't know of anyone having speed issues to warrant an over clocking kernel, seems more for bragging rights.
I think most people would want a kernel that saves battery but doesn't compromise on speed. Also, have you looked into the wake lock issue yet?
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Wake lock fixed by Qualcomm. Just gotta add it.
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is it hard to do 2 kernels? one for everyday use and other for some extra situations...
underclocked and overclocked...
as for me...i would like to see
-voltage control in apps (undervolting)
-usb otg
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I'll probably use faux's volt control. This is my first Qualcomm kernel so I've been mainly running through it. The n4 is far far far cleaner. Our source is a jumbled mess to an extent.
Also the other devs have found a way to run n4 stock ROM with kernel. However finding the best way for everyone to benefit is being sought after.
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Faster=Better
Faster is always better in my book. Pump that baby into overdrive!
if n4 kernel is portable to us, than usb otg - too???
and is n4 better?
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Faster is always better in my book. Pump that baby into overdrive!
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Something to consider. The n4 if pushed to far will actually brick. Our device might be the same.
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Haven't looked but how far can most n4 go I hope it can take at least a 300mhz oc.
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Wake lock fixed by Qualcomm. Just gotta add it.
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I am having huge wakelock issues. Will this is implemented in a future kernel from you or is this already available to use?
I think he meant Quallcom fixed it with a patch so once the kernel is build he can add that patch into his kernel along with whatever other option he chooses to build it with
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I think he meant Quallcom fixed it with a patch so once the kernel is build he can add that patch into his kernel along with whatever other option he chooses to build it with
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Correct
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I think he meant Quallcom fixed it with a patch so once the kernel is build he can add that patch into his kernel along with whatever other option he chooses to build it with
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I know what he meant, I saw a kernel that has been floating around, didn't know if that had it implemented or not.
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Correct
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Thanks man!

moved

please close
Btw alcohol was used to create this. Might be flammable.
Awesome, is there a slight rundown of what this has to offer over stock?
well, it may or may not be faster/more battery life. its a test kernel to find build method and make sure things are going to work before putting 1000s of lines of code changes in
Sounds good. Flashing now, will test as much as I can.
Will test also thanks
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How's the tests going? How risky is this?
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So far it seems to be running well. Run Quadrant and it is using Eco mode as my scores varied by 2000. Don't care about scores just the feel.
The governor is ondemand and uses 1134 alot more. Which is nice not seeing 1512 mostly so battery should be better.
Do have a question though. Do you want us to test different governors? If so, what's the preferred program?
Thanks joker!! It's great to finally have a kernel to play with!!
edit. Decided to use Set CPU. Seems to be working fine. I take that back about using 1134. Guess it just happened to be the speed of choice by what I was running. Still mostly 384 and 1512. And of course Deep sleep
This has worked fine in my testing Bluetooth steaming and calls work without issue. Camera works so does WiFi. I still see the msm host wake lock but it's not that high. Got 20 thousand in antutu so it seems to work without issue.
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So far it seems to be running well. Run Quadrant and it is using Eco mode as my scores varied by 2000. Don't care about scores just the feel.
The governor is ondemand and uses 1134 alot more. Which is nice not seeing 1512 mostly so battery should be better.
Do have a question though. Do you want us to test different governors? If so, what's the preferred program?
Thanks joker!! It's great to finally have a kernel to play with!!
edit. Decided to use Set CPU. Seems to be working fine. I take that back about using 1134. Guess it just happened to be the speed of choice by what I was running. Still mostly 384 and 1512. And of course Deep sleep
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I didnt do anything to the govenors on this release. This is mainly a basic kernel close to stock with a couple tweaks.
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This has worked fine in my testing Bluetooth steaming and calls work without issue. Camera works so does WiFi. I still see the msm host wake lock but it's not that high. Got 20 thousand in antutu so it seems to work without issue.
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It won't get rid of wake locks. They do have a purpose, but it should reduce them. Hopefully
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Flashed no problems. Chuckled at "raping malware" and "licking ICS." We'll see what happens after it settles in over a few days.
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So far everything seems to be going well. No stability issues, camera and WiFi work fine, everything runs smoothly. Though its hard to see if this runs better or not since it ran pretty well from stock.
Woohoo! Good to see you back Joker! I was a religious follower in the MoPho forums. I don't post very often but I just wanted to say it's good to see you and I can't wait to see what you do with this ridiculously powerful phone.
Re: jokers kernels 1/17/13
tested the oc kernel and its actually works well except WiFi is broken and can't OC,
just posting info for the dev
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Re: jokers kernels 1/17/13
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tested the oc kernel and its actually works well except WiFi is broken and can't OC,
just posting info for the dev
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I never released the kernel, but yeah I reverted those oc's and decided to handwrite it. Plus I wanted to update stockish.
So Dont use octest1. It was a test.
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I never released the kernel, but yeah I reverted those oc's and decided to handwrite it. Plus I wanted to update stockish.
So Dont use octest1. It was a test.
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Sorry hahaha couldn't help myself I'm a flashaholic
A question:
What's the point of the UC kernel if one can just lower clock speeds on OC kernel and stockish kernel?
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Sorry hahaha couldn't help myself I'm a flashaholic
A question:
What's the point of the UC kernel if one can just lower clock speeds on OC kernel and stockish kernel?
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The gpu/avp/mem/cpu/etc etc will be underclocked and undervolted. sort of a "hey we have way way to much phone and everything is designed for slower crap anyways so lets also go slow" kinda kernel
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Because these kernels also have libs in the zip, are we OK to just move kernel to kernel?
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Because these kernels also have libs in the zip, are we OK to just move kernel to kernel?
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Re: jokers kernels 1/17/13
Been on it since last night and its going good , great battery life increase. Still seeing about 40 minute of msm wake lock since being unplugged 7 hours. Thanks !
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Hot and rooted

Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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Hm maybe try underclocking a little bit?
Clock speed is same as stock. Shouldn't be the problem.
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Have you done anything to the CPU controls?
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dima470 said:
Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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drock212 said:
My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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Location services off. Battery stats say screen takes up most of battery(normal for s3.) I used teamwin root from recovery. Anything other than full stock. Includes rooted stock and custom ROMs/kernels.
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Rooting would not cause any extra heating to occur lol
Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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Alright will post my findings today. Im sure that my phone gets the deep sleep it needs. It gets really hot during use.
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Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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dima470 said:
Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep
hednik said:
I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep
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My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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dima470 said:
My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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If it's during use then CPU states. It might be running at higher mhz during use causing the heat problem.
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Alright will share CPU stats by end of the day. I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
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Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
xBeerdroiDx said:
that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Can we maybe explain it as having a device that just run's hot ? It was my first inclination.
OP, maybe I glanced over it at first but you stated you have used many rom's and kernels and got the exact same response on all the ones you used ?
Did you you try going back to stock rooted and seeing how it was from there ? A completely clean slate might be your best idea. The only way a device will get hot is is more power is being used to keep the processor at higher temperatures. There really isn't any other way or than faulty hardware issue.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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dima470 said:
Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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its not a price tag. its a script set to take advantage and make the most of the hardware on your phone. as soon as the task has begun, the CPU speed drops immediately.
see above post by hednik. i lean towards his thinking on this
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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I almost always use ondemand governor. In my humble opinion nearly all the other ones are inefficient or just placebo's. My phone runs streaming radio 4-5 hours a days on LTE and it never gets hot. Stays at around 918mhz at the highest. There a few bugs in 4.1.1 like the media server scanning where it will constantly scan your media because of a bad file.
Odin stock rooted 4.1.1 and then see how it goes. Factory reset it and erase /data or move to to pc or ex sd card. Won't take long and if it still does it I can't see what it would be.

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