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Who Are the Current Developers Working on This Phone?

I'm curious to see which are working in our phone. Sometimes I just feel that no one is developing for our phone.

We got new roms this week. Shut up
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Its a valid question. And just how new are the elements of these roms?
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Really? Experience them for yourself to find out. There are definitely some new roms.
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Not trying to be negative but new roms does not equal development. 90% of what we have is MODDED roms. Very few actual roms that are DEVELOPED. We have lots of modders, one or two developers.

xsteven77x said:
Not trying to be negative but new roms does not equal development. 90% of what we have is MODDED roms. Very few actual roms that are DEVELOPED. We have lots of modders, one or two developers.
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At last someone understands me!

I dont think you people understand. Theres a developer who starts from scratch on a stock pure rom. As a base. Not someones deodexed or debloated rom. A stock non root. Then they work on rooting the rom. And then deodexed the rom. Then they debloat (optional). Then add their apks. And then add theming. Honestly the devs here use other peoples base rom and just theme it nd tweak it a lil bit. To be honest the only developer that stands out is romanbb and whitehawx. They made juggernaut 4.1 as said in the description from scratch. They didnt kang anything or use someone elses work. They are true devs. The others are themers and tweakers and such. Now i love their work.. Honestly i love them too they make my phone that much better. Im just trying to clarify what it means to be a dev
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Do u see the 13 toggles? They had to code everything for it to work on our device. You know how long that takes?! Like i said they used a SAMSUNG PURE NON ROOT ROM! Others use other devs deodexed roms or debloated roms. They do everything themselves it
clemsonboyz said:
So, whitehawx and romann didn't simply tweak stock Samsung twiz? How could those two build from scratch? All there has been are Samsung stock twiz so far. They cry abt Kang, but don't they Kang themselves?
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And no they do not kang. For the love of god. You shouldve done some reaserch before you try to prove me wrong. They make their own stuff. They are recognized developers. Not senoir members.
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Well i want to be a dev, just dont know how besides android kitchen
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Why does every thread turn into an argument? And if you think you have the right to complain about a devs ROM, then put out something of your own that's better. If you can't, well then anyone who can even kang a ROM is lightyears ahead of you so don't complain.
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What difference does it make whether they're kang'ed or not?
The developers we have working on this phone have stepped up and released some very decent kernels and roms and they've worked hard to do so. I don't expect a developer to build CM7 or 9 from scratch, but I've used DARKSIDE's CM7 Hybrid for a while and it's incredible. Other developers (TricH, faux123, Team Kang) have all released some great stuff as well.
We've had a slow start getting this phone off the ground and I think it's due to the attitude some people have that we're owed something by simply owning this phone and having the ability to flash roms. Let's show the developers we have a little gratitude and patience and development for this phone will continue to take off as it has over the past few weeks.

If yall want to view it that way, everyone is using samsung's ROM as a base ROM and modifying it. If any of you have tried to develop than you would know that even minor variations from a "stock" takes time and effort. All developers start somewhere and the hope is for them to contribute to the community and learn and get better. My solution to people who are complaining about real vs "fake" developing is this:
I came from the i9100 forums and they had two sections for Android development-original and the normal Android development. The original Android development are for developers who build everything from scratch from source. The regular development is for everything else.
Like I said we don't want to discourage development because you never know which dev will grow up to be the next great!
Everyone kanged samsung's ROM hahaha...

Total noob new

Hey, all, just wanted to say that I'm new to Android and have probably been on here during the Samsung Blackjack days.
Any who, I need to be pointed on the right direction. What is the best ROM to use right now (stable)? I really hate the T-Mobile bloatware and have already rooted my phone, using the required steps given by this site.
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Juggernut
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Saying which ROM is best is very subjective. I would recommend trying dewizzed, macnut, and juggernaut. Those in my opinion and in same order are the most stable. Try each one for a days and see which one out ultimately feel suits you best. Everybody likes something different so start flashing and testing.
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

I use spotify with my phone, does it need a specific ROM or it just needs to be based off of Gingerbread or whatever?
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If you like the feel of the stock ROM, but want extra features and tweaks, go for Juggernaut. It is extremely fast, stable, and well developed overall.
And spotify should work.
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unlvmike said:
Saying which ROM is best is very subjective. I would recommend trying dewizzed, macnut, and juggernaut. Those in my opinion and in same order are the most stable. Try each one for a days and see which one out ultimately feel suits you best. Everybody likes something different so start flashing and testing.
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
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Yea, I hear yea. What I meant to say is I want a stable ROM without the Tmobile bloatware and I want it to be faster than what is already loaded; a slimmed down version.
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chlehqls said:
If you like the feel of the stock ROM, but want extra features and tweaks, go for Juggernaut. It is extremely fast, stable, and well developed overall.
And spotify should work.
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I think that's what I will do. Thanks for the info all!

Also, just wanted to ask because I didn't do a backup of my original ROM, would I search for stock rom in this sub-forum?

dasAndressen said:
Also, just wanted to ask because I didn't do a backup of my original ROM, would I search for stock rom in this sub-forum?
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You would look in the development forum, there are quite a few ways to get back to stock.
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Can someone please point me in the right direction...I have Juggernaut, pretty effin sweet, I must say. I have Go Locker with the Honeycomb theme. How can I install different lock screens, and do they have to be compatible with the Honeycomb theme?
Mod, if this is in the wrong place, please move it accordingly.

Get the Tuesday rom... best, stable , fast newly updated rom
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dasAndressen said:
Can someone please point me in the right direction...I have Juggernaut, pretty effin sweet, I must say. I have Go Locker with the Honeycomb theme. How can I install different lock screens, and do they have to be compatible with the Honeycomb theme?
Mod, if this is in the wrong place, please move it accordingly.
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havent used jugs in awhile but i believe you have lockscreen options under rom manager..and on the market there are tons lock screen replacements. go locker, magic locker, those are 2 good ones out of many. once you have either those simply find what theme you like.

[WIP]MIUI.us 2.7.20

I should have it up soon just havent even rooted or flashed my phone for that matter touched it since June 27th but i will now since MIUI.com<<China has finially put something out but i will get this up hopefully in the next couple of days. MODS u can lock the thread till otherwise ok thank just leeting everyone know its coming ok thanks. With 60 hours a week and a newborn i will still get u this hopefully but may not boot bc theres no CM or AOSP yet but i will try ok so thank u bear with me it will come. Im a official porter for the Sprint GNEX and i have helped with the E4GT and i have a DianXin Rom also for sprint GNEX. But yes thank u and we should see this soon

I'm sure many will appreciate it, though respectfully, if you won't have it ready for a few days, why would you make the thread now?

teh roxxorz said:
I'm sure many will appreciate it, though respectfully, if you won't have it ready for a few days, why would you make the thread now?
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So people know its coming lol

[ROM][NIGHTLY] CyanogenMod 9 Sprint Galaxy S III(d2spr) Nightly Discussion - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765247
[ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10 Preview Builds for SPH-L710 [7/20] - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778266

Heeellllll yes boiii
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We look forward to one of the best ROMS in the world.
Thank You
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Whats the eta for when it will have 4g??
lol sorry old evo4g joke! I was j/k.
-Sprint Galaxy Slll-_-Transformer Prime-

Anon9mouz said:
So people know its coming lol
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You dont post things to "let people know" in the development section dude. There's a General section for that. There is no development going on here so how would it even equate to be considered as development? It doesn't. Please follow XDA rules or don't post. Thanks.

task650 said:
Please follow XDA rules or don't post.
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No need to be an ass.

woshiweili said:
No need to be an ass.
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No need to make pointless threads.
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Everyone let the thread die out for now. Let's all be mature and not state the COMPLETE obvious that this doesn't belong here.
Cheers.

What's up Anon!
Nice to see you here!

I agree with Howard Johnson agreeing with Howard Johnson.

Why is everyone tripping. Now i really love my SGS2 family. No one from our thread actually complained about my earlier release warning lol. I and we never got hassle. People actually was grateful to know that they have time to prepare for a rom. So they could have their backups in order. Thanks for letting us no this. And i support 100% and if anyone thinks im just some random im not. Actually im about to port all of my roms from SGS2 to 3 and when i tell yall i really dont care if u complain about my early warning. I BET YOU STILL FLASH IT!!!!! LOL
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Now I have to decide if I should stay on CM10 or go back to the MIUI I love. I'm really digging how smooth Jelly Bean is, and Google Now is awesome. But then, MIUI is where I feel most comfortable UI-wise. This will be a tough decision until MIUI moves to JB.

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Now I have to decide if I should stay on CM10 or go back to the MIUI I love. I'm really digging how smooth Jelly Bean is, and Google Now is awesome. But then, MIUI is where I feel most comfortable UI-wise. This will be a tough decision until MIUI moves to JB.
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Cm10 isn't any smoother than stock imo. Both are smooth as glass

lorjay589 said:
Why is everyone tripping. Now i really love my SGS2 family. No one from our thread actually complained about my earlier release warning lol. I and we never got hassle. People actually was grateful to know that they have time to prepare for a rom. So they could have their backups in order. Thanks for letting us no this. And i support 100% and if anyone thinks im just some random im not. Actually im about to port all of my roms from SGS2 to 3 and when i tell yall i really dont care if u complain about my early warning. I BET YOU STILL FLASH IT!!!!! LOL
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What type of Roms do you have? Touchwiz, MIUI, AOSP, CM?
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Just Flash It !!!

Skunk Ape1 said:
What type of Roms do you have? Touchwiz, MIUI, AOSP, CM?
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Just Flash It !!!
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TW roms
here they are
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736233
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712362

Can't wait this man has the best themed roms that platinum rom nasty
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piiman said:
Cm10 isn't any smoother than stock imo. Both are smooth as glass
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That's what I was thinking at first, but after using CM10, it manages to be a smoother experience for me. I especially like that the XDA Premium app no longer has problems. I also prefer the new notification bar over the TW bar.
None of this really matters in CM10 vs. MIUI, though. It'll be a tough choice.

Wheres everyone at

I have had this phone for a couple days and have tried every rom in the dev section, when nothing is extraordinary from stock.
Wheres everyone at? I know this phone is pretty popular, but we dont have alot of devs. The dev section is damn near dead. Not many selections
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fateownzyou3 said:
I have had this phone for a couple days and have tried every rom in the dev section, when nothing is extraordinary from stock.
Wheres everyone at? I know this phone is pretty popular, but we dont have alot of devs. The dev section is damn near dead. Not many selections
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What? You have stock, CM9, AOKP, and CM10. That's all you need.
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joshnichols189 said:
What? You have stock, CM9, AOKP, and CM10. That's all you need.
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+1
Besides, the roms we have are awesome and are constantly developed and improved.
We have some fantastic devs here!
Not sure what you're looking for op, but a good deal of the mods I can think of are already incorporated into many of the roms.
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I can kinda see where the OP is coming from. On the G2X forums the stock roms were very very customized. These are all "tweaked" stock roms with little difference between the many... based off different bases, and have "build prop" tweaks and "init.d" tweaks, animations and so on. The att section has truly optimized and custom stock roms.
I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining cause I use aokp and cm10 mostly. But it'd be nice to have the extremely custom stock options like att users got.
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With JellyBean around the corner, it will kinda slim for awhile, like the above post, all are stable that are there, and well maintained. I agree good devs here....

mt3g said:
I can kinda see where the OP is coming from. On the G2X forums the stock roms were very very customized. These are all "tweaked" stock roms with little difference between the many... based off different bases, and have "build prop" tweaks and "init.d" tweaks, animations and so on. The att section has truly optimized and custom stock roms.
I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining cause I use aokp and cm10 mostly. But it'd be nice to have the extremely custom stock options like att users got.
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You and I both know a ton of customization was required to make the G2x usable. That is not the case with the GS3.

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You and I both know a ton of customization was required to make the G2x usable. That is not the case with the GS3.
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True. I'm also coming from the G2x and even tho we did I tend to stay closer to stock because I actually like tw. I will occasionally flash cm nightly just for ****s and giggles.
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I don't mean customization for stability. I mean like whitehawkX edt tweaks and such. ATT roms have skipping tracks via long press on volume rocker and such. We have good stuff but it'd be awesome to have more options then different color stock roms. Most of the stuff I want is flashable any ways. Just a little rant... I'm just happy this thing is stable no matter what haha.
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I wasn't trying to complain a lot. It was mainly what the above poster said. Just not a lot of variety like some phones have. Don't get me wrong, we have some of the best devs on the sgs3. I just like more options though
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In my opinion OP Android is maturing and the devices are much more usable than they once were with now just minor annoyances now.. There will be more development soon but the GS3 is enjoyable stock with tweaks for now... Such was the case with the OG Vibrant when Team Whiskey and Eugene tweaked and enhanced stock Twiz and the dev scene for that device took off and is still prevalent with the Vibrant being one of the first devices to run a stable JB... As a matter of fact because of devices like the Vibrant we have many of the staple dev names we see amongst many threads amongst many forums and for several devices including this one, for example Whitehawkx, Annex and others..
Stay tuned as I suspect it is going to be fun..

Those devs aren't focusing on TW at all. They have cm10 and variants to do and kernels to work on. Things are especially going to die down for a little with JellyBeen coming around the corner.
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joshnichols189 said:
What? You have stock, CM9, AOKP, and CM10. That's all you need.
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Don't forget miui!. And op this is only a few months old. Dude our cm based ROMs 9/10 jb are stable As hell its crazy previous phones I had like s2 for instance had the echo bug data problems just crazy ****. The ROMs here are dd its crazy it will get way better when we get official jb and that should be soon. And we have some of the best devs in the game right now.....I love my s3

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I don't mean customization for stability. I mean like whitehawkX edt tweaks and such. ATT roms have skipping tracks via long press on volume rocker and such. We have good stuff but it'd be awesome to have more options then different color stock roms. Most of the stuff I want is flashable any ways. Just a little rant... I'm just happy this thing is stable no matter what haha.
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If you want features of an AT&T ROM flash an AT&T ROM.. what's stopping you? They work fine if you set up the APNs correctly. I mean look at the i9100 forums. There's so many ROMs there but all of the touchwiz ROMs differ in what, a few build.prop lines and a theme? I'm not trying to attack you I just am not understanding what exactly you or OP are asking for. I understand some features aren't in our ROMs but like I said, flash an AT&T one if you want that feature. Or flash CM10, we have that feature

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If you want features of an AT&T ROM flash an AT&T ROM.. what's stopping you? They work fine if you set up the APNs correctly. I mean look at the i9100 forums. There's so many ROMs there but all of the touchwiz ROMs differ in what, a few build.prop lines and a theme? I'm not trying to attack you I just am not understanding what exactly you or OP are asking for. I understand some features aren't in our ROMs but like I said, flash an AT&T one if you want that feature. Or flash CM10, we have that feature
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You're stating exactly what I stated.
Only reason I flash stock based roms are for WiFi calling cause of some locations I work at... which isn't on any of the AT&T roms.
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mt3g said:
You're stating exactly what I stated.
Only reason I flash stock based roms are for WiFi calling cause of some locations I work at... which isn't on any of the AT&T roms.
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You said you mostly use CM10/AOKP but you won't flash an AT&T ROM because of no WiFi calling? You can set up WiFi calling on any ROM you want. I do it on CM10. Sure it is roundabout and not T-Mobile WiFi calling but it's still free and still WiFi calling.
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You said you mostly use CM10/AOKP but you won't flash an AT&T ROM because of no WiFi calling? You can set up WiFi calling on any ROM you want. I do it on CM10. Sure it is roundabout and not T-Mobile WiFi calling but it's still free and still WiFi calling.
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Its not that big of a deal I prefer AOKP over all and I only work at those sites for a couple days a month so I just nandroid an old stock rom... not that big of a deal to me. I was just stating that I understand where the OP was coming from. I don't like setting up other forms of WiFi calling through third party apps.
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joshnichols189 said:
If you want features of an AT&T ROM flash an AT&T ROM.. what's stopping you? They work fine if you set up the APNs correctly. I mean look at the i9100 forums. There's so many ROMs there but all of the touchwiz ROMs differ in what, a few build.prop lines and a theme? I'm not trying to attack you I just am not understanding what exactly you or OP are asking for. I understand some features aren't in our ROMs but like I said, flash an AT&T one if you want that feature. Or flash CM10, we have that feature
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Good answer. Seriously. All of the stocks only differ by a color here and a icon there. Running the Cm10 nightlies, and seeing the new additions and fixes is what I'm impressed with. I am sure soon, we will see more roms being done with the cm10 base and others. My daily, is CM10 period. Seen enough of the stock stuff. HTC MyTouch took awhile, but was flooded later with some good roms.
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TheAxman said:
Good answer. Seriously. All of the stocks only differ by a color here and a icon there. Running the Cm10 nightlies, and seeing the new additions and fixes is what I'm impressed with. I am sure soon, we will see more roms being done with the cm10 base and others. My daily, is CM10 period. Seen enough of the stock stuff. HTC MyTouch took awhile, but was flooded later with some good roms.
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Man all I know is the cowgirls are going down this year. Watch out for them birds baby!

sarni84 said:
Man all I know is the cowgirls are going down this year. Watch out for them birds baby!
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Now why did ya have to jinx my boys?
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Man all I know is the cowgirls are going down this year. Watch out for them birds baby!
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I'm a die hard Cowboys fan. Care to make a signature wager? Maybe adding logos of the winning team?

We make ROM they make kernels

Anyone else find it funny that t989 devs have twice as many ROMs and the skyrocket has like 4 custom kernels
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Hey anything better then nothing lol
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That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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And we STILL dont have a custom 4.0.4 kernel.

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And we STILL dont have a custom 4.0.4 kernel.
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Pmt3r claims that he does.. I don't buy it though. A 4.0.4 kernel built from the ground up would be cool. In the mean time I'm perfectly happy with aokp and CM. I was just stating the obvious.. or unobvious I guess lol.
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RushAOZ said:
That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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Exactly, ive said this before in rushings "rom" thread. Just update one rom with flashable add ons and themes..

don728871 said:
Anyone else find it funny that t989 devs have twice as many ROMs and the skyrocket has like 4 custom kernels
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I bought this phone in March ,the best ROM at the time was Juggernaut and Darkside digital warfare. I say things have VASTLY improved. I appreciate anybody that puts in work and hooks it up for free. It would be nice to have more top notch devs on our forum.

Either way they're all interchangeable, basically could all be in one forum
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RushAOZ said:
That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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I love how you're quick to place blame in everyone else but what have you attempted? If its such a huge problem and there's a lack of development work going on, why don't you go ahead and create your own ROM from the ground up or better yet, create us a custom kernel. Until you can do either of these things, where do you even stand? This is not an insult or because I even take offense to it. I say this because people like jovy actually put time into their ROMs.
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RushAOZ said:
That's because devs like jovy, Rushing and pmt3r pump out the same ROM with 17 thousand different themes. Then we have 5 other guys compiling the same damn cm10 or aokp ROM from source.. In reality we have a small amount of ROMs that are actually built from the ground up. Then our guys take that base and do what they want to it. They have skyICS which to them is their go to touchwiz ROM (and honestly skyICS is better than all of our TW roms combined.) just like Darkside Evolution was ours. Then we have thelastsidekick making another thousand roms instead of just working on one and making it the best it can be. IMO our dev section is cluttered with a bunch of unneeded crap. I'd rather have a few more devs that know enough to cook some kernels instead of devs that just copy and paste what they want to an already existing base.
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I'm just holding out for the new Nexus so I can move on out to a different phone. The Dev forum is a mess here. There's even ROM threads without ROMs in them. It's like a DMZ free for all.

TheLastSidekick said:
I love how you're quick to place blame in everyone else but what have you attempted? If its such a huge problem and there's a lack of development work going on, why don't you go ahead and create your own ROM from the ground up or better yet, create us a custom kernel. Until you can do either of these things, where do you even stand? This is not an insult or because I even take offense to it. I say this because people like jovy actually put time into their ROMs.
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Don't get offended. It's the truth. Go look at the dev section. Its a mess. Half of you guys don't even post your githubs, sources, or code. So.. you're basically taking bases and kanging them to death. Making the same ROM 10 times . Which I have no problem with. Its open source that's the point. But.. Keep it organized! Work on one project at a time and atleast finish it. You have dumped at least 2 ROMs yourself to start on others. This leaves the dev section a huge mess and easier for newcomers to flash something they shouldn't and risk a brick. Look at the general section. Brick threads galore. And honestly I don't need to contribute by making a ROM or anything of that sort. I contribute by donating like any good flasher should and trying to help others with issues I've had myself. If the garbage was thrown out and the dev section cleaned up we would have less than 7 active threads. Rushing making a new thread for an already made ROM just because it has a different theme? Insanity.
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RushAOZ said:
Don't get offended. It's the truth. Go look at the dev section. Its a mess. Half of you guys don't even post your githubs, sources, or code. So.. you're basically taking bases and kanging them to death. Making the same ROM 10 times . Which I have no problem with. Its open source that's the point. But.. Keep it organized! Work on one project at a time and atleast finish it. You have dumped at least 2 ROMs yourself to start on others. This leaves the dev section a huge mess and easier for newcomers to flash something they shouldn't and risk a brick. Look at the general section. Brick threads galore. And honestly I don't need to contribute by making a ROM or anything of that sort. I contribute by donating like any good flasher should and trying to help others with issues I've had myself. If the garbage was thrown out and the dev section cleaned up we would have less than 7 active threads. Rushing making a new thread for an already made ROM just because it has a different theme? Insanity.
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I suppose you're right in some ways.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
I'm just holding out for the new Nexus so I can move on out to a different phone. The Dev forum is a mess here. There's even ROM threads without ROMs in them. It's like a DMZ free for all.
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He!! Yea! I just want a nexus so I can have updates im not waiting around anymore..

RushAOZ said:
Pmt3r claims that he does.. I don't buy it though. A 4.0.4 kernel built from the ground up would be cool. In the mean time I'm perfectly happy with aokp and CM. I was just stating the obvious.. or unobvious I guess lol.
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You don't buy it? I have been testing it for over a week now and its Better than the skyrockets kernel that everyone is flashing. I have screenshots to prove it...
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style154 said:
You don't buy it? I have been testing it for over a week now and its Better than the skyrockets kernel that everyone is flashing. I have screenshots to prove it...
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Definitely +1.

Correct me if I'm wrong.. Aren't Cyanogenmod and TW just customized ports from the originals as well? The only roms built from the ground up are the ones that come from Google, samsung, etc. Not being a **** just clarifying not sure if im right
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garth719 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong.. Aren't Cyanogenmod and TW just customized ports from the originals as well? The only roms built from the ground up are the ones that come from Google, samsung, etc. Not being a **** just clarifying not sure if im right
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Yes and no. Cyanogenmod is built from the ground up using their own source code that sticks closely to the AOSP source code. As far as Touchwiz goes, it's built from the ground up by Samsung. It's the reason why Wi-Fi calling isn't available on AOSP or AOKP.
Now as far kernels, Samsung has released 4.0.4 source but the only devs I know that have built their own kernel FROM THE GROUND UP are Eugene373s streamline and TDJ venom kernels. As far as other kernels, they all include mods and changes that they have made to the original Samsung kernel. In other words, modding instead of building from scratch.
Like I said, I don't have an issue with this. If I had the time to learn how to dev and cook up my own idea on what a ROM should look like and perform I totally would. But some of us lead different lives and some things just aren't possible. That's why I donate. I feel like a scumbag using something someone made for free that's better than what I actually paid for. But that's just me.
All I'm saying is.. dev section is a mess. Lol mods, let's clean it up and get rid of discontinued ROMs. As a dev if you have different theme ideas and want to post them for your ROM? Put it in its rightful forum. There's a reason the THEMES and apps forum exists. If we already have a certain official ROM unofficially compiled from source, let's agree on one thread instead of having 5 people compile the same ROM. Don't make 10 threads with the same rom and a different theme.
Voiddweller was right. It's a bit out of control. We got too many brick threads and too many people cluttering up threads with questions that have pre-existing answers obtained with a simple search.
Just sayen' fellas. I still visit the NS4G forums, I gave it to my gf and got this. I love that forum. This one? Not so much. When we get devs leaving (TDJ wasn't the first) that says something. You guys wanna see 4.2 on this phone? Fix the forum.
Sorry for wall o text.
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RushAOZ said:
You guys wanna see 4.2 on this phone? Fix the forum.
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I completely agree.