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Quick question..

I'm new 2 the rooting and the Android itself.. I got the 2.2 on my EVO like most ppl have via update, I'm kinda skeptical of rooting it still.. I guess my question is, is it worth rooting it and what changes on the device itself?
Any information would and will be extremely appreciated..
Thanx in advance...
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Good day to you.
First off. welcome. second, as its your FIRST post I hope you wont get flamed too hard because there are many many threads that cover the pros/cons of rooting.
I suggest next time you have a question, take a minute to use the search function (and post in the right forum! questions go in Q&A).
A few quick pros of rooting.
Free wireless tether (sharing your phones internet connection with a laptop or other wifi enabled device)
The ability to flash custom ROMs, these are the operating systems of the phone, they're all built off of (for the most part) stock htc/sprint images, but there are plenty and many options, find one that suits your needs and try it out.
Custom kernels, they are the set of drivers and the "brain" of your phone, want it overclocked? get a custom kernel, want it undervolted (Save battery) get a custom kernel. many options to choose from
Custom Boot screens.
Root only applications, titanium backup (backs up stuff, i dont use it so i cant elaborate), shootme (screenshot program) and others im sure.
Hope this clears up some stuff, welcome, use the search (really im just trying to help ya here) and have fun!

Round of applause for nenn. While I agree with your first few sentences, there aren't many "nice guys" on this site and especially on the Evo boards. People tend to forget that this phone is relatively new and has attracted many new people to the world of Android (like myself) who know nothing about anything.
OP: A few things you can do with root that nenn did not mention:
1) You can read/write from your SD card.
2) You can remove all the garbage that your phone came loaded with from Sprint and HTC (like Sprint Nascar and Peep).
3) With Titanium back-up, it allows you to transfer all user apps to the SD card keeping your phones internal memory clean, you can back up and restore all apps and system data, and you can use it to uninstall apps you don't want as mentioned in point #2.
4) Custom kernels also remove the 30 fps cap on our phones (I get 52 fps average with my set up).
5) You can use other root-only programs like ROM Manager which lets you flash files onto your phone easily via a custom recovery. Also, you can back up several ROM's and switch from one to the other, or go back to a previous working ROM if you flash something on your phone that doesn't sit well with it.
If everything that we have mentioned means nothing to you, then just enjoy your phone as it is. It is a great device and you can get plenty of use out if without rooting it.

*bow* thanks for the kind words rudegraw, its not a day from hell at work so im in a chipper mood for the most part, yesterday, i woulda ripped this yougin to shreads so i posted very little, lol.
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1) You can read/write from your SD card.
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eh? what do you mean? thats worded very oddly.

Thanx to the both of ya.. I do luv the phone the way it is and specially since yesterday I turned on the 4G and it actually came on, you can pretty much assume my excitement lol.. But I'll read up on the pros/cons of rooting before I make any decision as to root my Evo..
Thanx again..
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nenn said:
*bow* thanks for the kind words rudegraw, its not a day from hell at work so im in a chipper mood for the most part, yesterday, i woulda ripped this yougin to shreads so i posted very little, lol.
eh? what do you mean? thats worded very oddly.
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I'd rather not get into details about this on the thread. I worded it this way on purpose. PM me and I'd be more than happy to explain what I meant.

Rooting 2.2
I am rooting for the first time and I'm stuck now. I am in the section where you enter the commands into the cmd command box.
I just entered the ./rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
and it says that it not found but when I entered it earlier it worke just fine, can anyone help me plz

rugedraw said:
Round of applause for nenn. While I agree with your first few sentences, there aren't many "nice guys" on this site and especially on the Evo boards. People tend to forget that this phone is relatively new and has attracted many new people to the world of Android (like myself) who know nothing about anything.
OP: A few things you can do with root that nenn did not mention:
1) You can read/write from your SD card.
2) You can remove all the garbage that your phone came loaded with from Sprint and HTC (like Sprint Nascar and Peep).
3) With Titanium back-up, it allows you to transfer all user apps to the SD card keeping your phones internal memory clean, you can back up and restore all apps and system data, and you can use it to uninstall apps you don't want as mentioned in point #2.
4) Custom kernels also remove the 30 fps cap on our phones (I get 52 fps average with my set up).
5) You can use other root-only programs like ROM Manager which lets you flash files onto your phone easily via a custom recovery. Also, you can back up several ROM's and switch from one to the other, or go back to a previous working ROM if you flash something on your phone that doesn't sit well with it.
If everything that we have mentioned means nothing to you, then just enjoy your phone as it is. It is a great device and you can get plenty of use out if without rooting it.
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Recording at 720p, is it any better with 52 fps?

To root 4g or not 4g... askn pros oppinions

I hope this is a resonable ?.... what is rooting, what's the benifits, should I or shouldn't I root my phone, and can u unroot? Simply can u explain to a intrested and user who likes to take it to maximum capeabilities.! Thnx 4 your input pros!
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qbking77 made some awesome videos that explains most everything, but the simplest answer is to run applications that require root access such as wireless tether, titanium backup, and get full access to your system. Of course the next step is to put on custom rom's to get rid of sprint bloatware. Watch the videos and make your own call. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997

If you don't know why you should root, you probably shouldn't be. There's no shame in not rooting, but rooting just to root is pretty stupid.

063_XOBX said:
If you don't know why you should root, you probably shouldn't be. There's no shame in not rooting, but rooting just to root is pretty stupid.
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I think his reason for asking is to avoid "rooting just to root"...
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There's a rooting WIKI stickied at the top of the Q&A section that explains a lot about rooting. See link below..this is a section of the wiki that I think can answer a lot of your questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067
Good luck and remember...don't go down this path if you're not willing to do a lot of reading and you're willing to deal with the possibility of turning your phone into a paperweight. The more you research you do the less likely that this will happen.

badmoment said:
I hope this is a resonable ?.... what is rooting, what's the benifits, should I or shouldn't I root my phone, and can u unroot? Simply can u explain to a intrested and user who likes to take it to maximum capeabilities.! Thnx 4 your input pros!
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Rooting just to root can give you some nice backup options, but on stock I never personally found a need to restore anything. So that's not a huge reason to do it, and besides, MyBackup Pro can handle all your backup needs non-rooted.
Moving on, as mentioned higher up, one of the biggest reasons for rooting is for Wifi Tethering without using Sprint's Hotspot. You're paying for the data, it only seems right that you should be able to use that great power on other devices as well. That said, don't abuse it unnecessarily .
Many people will root simply to take advantage of theming options, changing the lockscreen appearance, pull-down menu, icons, launcher, startup/shutdown animations, and the appearance of system apps. That mentioned... you can remove annoying system apps that otherwise can't be removed.
Finally, but certainly the most exciting, rooting allows you to take advantage of the many custom roms floating around XDA! That is, it allows you to essentially replace the phones operating system with one of the many custom rebuilt versions, enabling new features, removing bloatware, increasing battery life and more than doubling performance speeds!
Personally, I do it for all of these reasons! Check out the links in my signature for my favorite modifications.

Good Reasons To Root:
Applications Like-
1.ADFREE-ZERO ADS In 90% Of apps
2.Wireless Tether/Wired Tether- Free Internet Sharing
3.Titanium Backup- Backup everything on a schedule at a time that u arent using your phone so u never lose apps or text messages, contacts and other important stuff
4. SDX Stock App Removal- Remove Outdated or Bloatware that you dont want.
5. Custom Roms/Kernals- Make it so u can have a more reliable faster phone and undervolt and overclock the kernal meaning- make you phone faster then its suppose to go and make it go slower to save battery, as well as NO Carrior IQ Adgent Service on some roms- meaning sprint cant track your personal info..
6. Custom Themes- Meaning custom pulldowns,custom menus , fonts and all that fun stuff
7. Mods: Including themes, Battery mods,Hulu mod, and way too many to keep track of.
BAD Reasons To Root:
1. If you dont read and know how to get back to a fresh state you could very possibly brick your phone or soft brick it.
2.Void Warranty-However if you know read up on ODIN, u can flash back to stock and they will never know
3. Thats all i got in my opinion for bad
If you want to root just make sure you read all instructions on how to and read about odin/titatanium backup/and nandroid backups as Those are life savers.
Hope this helps, dont forget to hit thanks or checkout dropbox if u find this info helpful
Have a nice day

dkechitkid said:
Good luck and remember...don't go down this path if you're not willing to do a lot of reading and you're willing to deal with the possibility of turning your phone into a paperweight. The more you research you do the less likely that this will happen.
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This is why i dont root. Even though i've been here since October lol
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Always root at least to remove.bloatware
Sent from Snarf phone

I have to greatly compliment you on your informative and very professional reply. Thanx abunch. You answerd all i wanted to know without asking. I hope you respond again to my endless need to master this piece of technology. ROCK ON BRO!!
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Why not just uninstall bloatware?

Everyone seems to always suggest downloading titanium backup and freezing everything instead of just deleting it. Why? We have plenty of evidence of the apps that it is safe to get rid of and the ones that ya better not. So why does it seem that people are worried about deleting them. I am not a NASCAR fan and I don't see myself becoming one so why not just get rid of the app completely? Am I missing something?
Safe from what I have been told and read to delete are :
Blockbuster
Kindle
Amazon mp3
NOVA
Sprint TV
NASCAR
Sprint Football
Sprint Hotspot
Sprint Navigation

Personal preference, if you don't want them, delete away.

I would say from your list that you are right as long as you have a nandroid backup to restore. I have had my Evo start acting weird after I uninstalled some bloat ware so I restored the nandroid and just froze the apps instead. After CM7 final came out I dropped the stock rom, still have a backup, installed the Cyan goodness and have no plans of going back other than install new radio updates. The main benefit to uninstalling them is to free up space. The choice is yours.

Why waste time deleting them? They are installed to /system, so freeing that up doesn't free up the /data partition.

strung said:
Why waste time deleting them? They are installed to /system, so freeing that up doesn't free up the /data partition.
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I'm confused , elaborate for me please.

Everyone is not experienced at flashing and tinkering with their devices. Think about it. A lot of people do things to their devices and when they've messed something up, they post here looking for help without stating what they have already done. Telling people to freeze the stuff they don't want is just a safeguard. Those of us who are a bit more experienced will go beyond TB. I hope that made sense.
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Everyone is not experienced at flashing and tinkering with their devices. Think about it. A lot of people do things to their devices and when they've messed something up, they post here looking for help without stating what they have already done. Telling people to freeze the stuff they don't want is just a safeguard. Those of us who are a bit more experienced will go beyond TB. I hope that made sense.
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That was all I was trying to get across was that if you are new to rooting and deleting/changing system files then you are better off just freezing the apps. It is normally safe but most people try to change something before they realize what they are doing, and don't have or know of a way to fix it. If a person wants to uninstall an app by all means go ahead that is one of the main reason for rooting your phone. It also makes it a lot easier to help them fix it if they know what they did.

Smurph82 said:
That was all I was trying to get across was that if you are new to rooting and deleting/changing system files then you are better off just freezing the apps. It is normally safe but most people try to change something before they realize what they are doing, and don't have or know of a way to fix it. If a person wants to uninstall an app by all means go ahead that is one of the main reason for rooting your phone. It also makes it a lot easier to help them fix it if they know what they did.
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I understand. Thank you for your reply and enjoy the rest of your day...
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I've also heard people use the reasoning that if you uninstall system apps you cannot accept an ota, so they freeze them. This way if they want to update, they can just defrost and accept.
I don't understand wanting to accept an OTA, but I also don't understand staying on the stock rom when there are so many great devs making awesome roms.
But people like what they like, I guess you can't knock that.

Hey there are 3 different people from NC in this thread.
I've also heard people use the reasoning that if you uninstall system apps you cannot accept an ota, so they freeze them. This way if they want to update, they can just defrost and accept.
I don't understand wanting to accept an OTA, but I also don't understand staying on the stock rom when there are so many great devs making awesome roms.
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I thought about staying with the stock rom at first then I saw what I am missing. I love running CM7 and I have tried others. The main thing for me is that I'm now running Android 2.3.3 which has several features that I wanted and got tired of waiting on Sprint. Don't get me wrong I will stay with Sprint and they have one of the better update records but when Android 2.4 is coming fast and I am stuck on 2.2 with 2.3.3 what seems to be everywhere else. I can't stand that. I only hope that the HTC Evo 3D will get rooted because I plan on getting it as soon as it comes out. I was the first person at the Greensboro Besy Buy that got the Evo 4g and I will do it again.

Smurph82 said:
Hey there are 3 different people from NC in this thread.
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I'm actually from Orlando, Florida and I moved to NC a year ago, however, I will be moving back to Orlando in about a week...LOL...I was getting the "evil eye" for being bold enough to strut around wearing a University of Miami shirt in the land of Hoyas, Tar Heels, Blue Devils and Wolfpacks....
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At least you are still in the ACC.

LOL...That's true..
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haha i came from the droid x now im on cm 7, have you checked out the cm7 update to use a bluetooth mouse and have a mouse pointer on the screen with hdmi miorroring? its awesome. i have a blutooth mouse and keyboard hooked up to my evo and the phone is connected to the tv.. i actually use this now instead of my comp

keejung said:
haha i came from the droid x now im on cm 7, have you checked out the cm7 update to use a bluetooth mouse and have a mouse pointer on the screen with hdmi miorroring? its awesome. i have a blutooth mouse and keyboard hooked up to my evo and the phone is connected to the tv.. i actually use this now instead of my comp
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WTF??????????

Removing voice command on start-up?

I've searched and haven't found solid answer. If I root the phone can I remove or freeze the built-in voice command that starts up when I use the bluetooth press?
I want to use a third party app I have had much more luck with. But every time I long press bluetooth when driving(in car a lot) the installed program always starts.
I have someone that is going to root my phone and was hoping this is one of the things that can be done.

jkhawk said:
I've searched and haven't found solid answer. If I root the phone can I remove or freeze the built-in voice command that starts up when I use the bluetooth press?
I want to use a third party app I have had much more luck with. But every time I long press bluetooth when driving(in car a lot) the installed program always starts.
I have someone that is going to root my phone and was hoping this is one of the things that can be done.
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Yep, once rooted you can use Titanium Backup to remove those pesky programs and bloatware that came with your device. Also, why not root yourself? There are one touch root methods that are "so easy a caveman could do it"

Thanks! I used to tweak my old Windows phone. Went to Android this spring and just haven't felt as comfortable thinking I will screw something up. If its as easy as one touch I'm in. Sorry to be a pain is there one touch instructions somewhere? Thx in advance

jkhawk said:
Thanks! I used to tweak my old Windows phone. Went to Android this spring and just haven't felt as comfortable thinking I will screw something up. If its as easy as one touch I'm in. Sorry to be a pain is there one touch instructions somewhere? Thx in advance
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Here ya go, one-touch root thanks to sfhub. This is what I used and it worked like a charm. Just make sure to follow directions. This root is for EG30/EG31/EK02 only. If your running EL13/EL26/EL29 click the link in the directions to use that root. Good luck, like I said Simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728&highlight=sfhub+one+touch+root

Appreciate it. Won't bother with a lot of questions from here. Got rooted, Titanium, froze the voice command. Works great.
Is there a list of apps I should freeze? Is there a link that suggests what apps I should look at now that I am rooted and what tweaks I should make?

jkhawk said:
Appreciate it. Won't bother with a lot of questions from here. Got rooted, Titanium, froze the voice command. Works great.
Is there a list of apps I should freeze? Is there a link that suggests what apps I should look at now that I am rooted and what tweaks I should make?
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SWEET! Nice job man... Wasn't too difficult was it? As far as a list of apps to remove, I just pretty much removed all stuff I don't use. (Ap Mobile, Buddies Now, Home Screen Tips, Sprint Mobile Wallet, Yahoo Finance, etc.) those are just some of the items I removed, but might be some that you want to keep. Make sure to do a full-backup of all user apps + system data. That way you have a backup if you need to restore. I've read a few threads about "I've rooted now what," you should do a search for one of those. As far as apps, here are one's I recommend: Roam Control (we get free roaming, so why not use Verizon's signal whenever you want. Just don't use all the time!), Wifi Tether (free wifi tethering with this app, it's awesome), Rom Toolbox (cool app with tonz of features for root users), Adfree (Blocks those pesky ads in some of the apps we use) those are just a few. If your feeling a little saucy, you might want to cruise over to the developers section and check out different roms that you can flash. Good luck jhawk, and welcome to the wonderful world of root!

Search de bloater in the development section. Its pretty awesome if you ask me
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New to Samsung galaxy S3 have a few questions please?

Hello all, been a long time since I have been here and have really missed it.
I recently switched carriers from Verizon to Sprint and got me a Galaxy S3 from Wireless.Amazon for $39.99, along with 3 Motorola photon q's for my kids and wife for a penny each... Not too shabby of deal IMO. Lol
2 years ago, I got a htc incredible and rooted it and went through about 20 roms before I finally stuck with cyanogen mod 7, which had everything I was looking for built in.
The main 2 things I want with this Gs3 is free wifi tether and ability to move apps to sd card.
I read a post about native tether and it looked like someone got it working on jelly bean? Not native tether but some kind of wifi tether.
Streve or something like that?
Uhg.. I am rambling, let me make this short and sweet.
1)Can I have wifi tether on jelly bean?
2)Can I have app to sd on galaxy s3?
3)Can I have call recording?
I am stock 4.1.1 with root right now but am willing to go with a custom ROM to get these features... Don't care if its 4.1.1 or 4.0.4 as long as I can get these working. #3 isn't too important.
Please point me to where I need to be if these things or part of these things are possible?
I would like to be as stable as possible.
I'm not the type to be changing roms all the time.
Also, what is the way to go if I need a custom ROM and want to get my apps back and such? Without having to set them all up again, if thats possible?
I consider myself a noob again since so much has changed since my htc incredible.
Thanks so much and I apologize if I piss anybody off with this post. I just don't have the time or energy to read so much info that is available on this site. Just thinking that someone that is familiar with all this would have a much easier time pointing me in the direction I need.
Happy holidays and be safe everybody.
Blind.
Sent from my Galaxy S3 with XDA App.

Wifi tether you'll have to search for the right mod, apps to SD is a thing of the past on this phone, internal storage is just a folder in /data so you have ~12gb for whatever(apps, pics, vids, music etc) aside from your microsd. Call recording I think there's something for it but don't use it so searching teh googlez will be your best bet
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Samsung: Intercept, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2
HTC: EVO4g, EVO 3d
LG: Optimus G, Nexus 4
Asus: Nexus7, Nexus10
Motorola: Photon
Amazon: Kindle Fire, Kindle Fire HD
We are legion, for we are many!

BlindDude said:
Hello all, been a long time since I have been here and have really missed it.
I recently switched carriers from Verizon to Sprint and got me a Galaxy S3 from Wireless.Amazon for $39.99, along with 3 Motorola photon q's for my kids and wife for a penny each... Not too shabby of deal IMO. Lol
2 years ago, I got a htc incredible and rooted it and went through about 20 roms before I finally stuck with cyanogen mod 7, which had everything I was looking for built in.
The main 2 things I want with this Gs3 is free wifi tether and ability to move apps to sd card.
I read a post about native tether and it looked like someone got it working on jelly bean? Not native tether but some kind of wifi tether.
Streve or something like that?
Uhg.. I am rambling, let me make this short and sweet.
1)Can I have wifi tether on jelly bean?
2)Can I have app to sd on galaxy s3?
3)Can I have call recording?
I am stock 4.1.1 with root right now but am willing to go with a custom ROM to get these features... Don't care if its 4.1.1 or 4.0.4 as long as I can get these working. #3 isn't too important.
Please point me to where I need to be if these things or part of these things are possible?
I would like to be as stable as possible.
I'm not the type to be changing roms all the time.
Also, what is the way to go if I need a custom ROM and want to get my apps back and such? Without having to set them all up again, if thats possible?
I consider myself a noob again since so much has changed since my htc incredible.
Thanks so much and I apologize if I piss anybody off with this post. I just don't have the time or energy to read so much info that is available on this site. Just thinking that someone that is familiar with all this would have a much easier time pointing me in the direction I need.
Happy holidays and be safe everybody.
Blind.
Sent from my Galaxy S3 with XDA App.
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Most of the roms will have abilites your looking for. Tether as stated is only a quick mod away as well. Now the fun part of skimming roms to find one that fits you. I run the peoples rom. Light theme, great battery life. Clean rom overall. Best thing to do read a couple, check last few posts to see recent issues (if any) flash and form an opinion. Everyones experience differs. So enjoy
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Wifi tether you'll have to search for the right mod, apps to SD is a thing of the past on this phone, internal storage is just a folder in /data so you have ~12gb for whatever(apps, pics, vids, music etc) aside from your microsd. Call recording I think there's something for it but don't use it so searching teh googlez will be your best bet
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Samsung: Intercept, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2
HTC: EVO4g, EVO 3d
LG: Optimus G, Nexus 4
Asus: Nexus7, Nexus10
Motorola: Photon
Amazon: Kindle Fire, Kindle Fire HD
We are legion, for we are many!
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milky1112 said:
Most of the roms will have abilites your looking for. Tether as stated is only a quick mod away as well. Now the fun part of skimming roms to find one that fits you. I run the peoples rom. Light theme, great battery life. Clean rom overall. Best thing to do read a couple, check last few posts to see recent issues (if any) flash and form an opinion. Everyones experience differs. So enjoy
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Thanks to you both. Well yeah, I guess app to sd isn't needed anymore. I had only 8G on my incredible, even though I had all my unimportant apps on the sd, I never came close to filling up the internal memory.
I will check out The Peoples ROM. I did notice that JellyBomb topic said something like "totally bug free" or something like that.. Any opinion on JellyBomb?
Oh and the last concern I had was restoring my apps and data so I don't have to set them up each ROM change? Should I purchase Titanium Backup?
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks again
Blind.
Sent from my Galaxy S3 with XDA App.

TB is definetly the way to go. You can flash the custom recovery, root the device, then back up your apps before flashing any ROMs.

The only two roms i know of (and could find after a quick peruse through the dev sections) that have call recording are Team Sonics (via a flash-able zip) and Blazer rom (baked in).
Personally i run the latest Blazer JB rom, great battery life, smooth operation, and a stripped down TW experience with all the major goodies and none of the bloatware. Great compromise between pure AOSP and Pure TW

BlindDude said:
Hello all, been a long time since I have been here and have really missed it.
I recently switched carriers from Verizon to Sprint and got me a Galaxy S3 from Wireless.Amazon for $39.99, along with 3 Motorola photon q's for my kids and wife for a penny each... Not too shabby of deal IMO. Lol
2 years ago, I got a htc incredible and rooted it and went through about 20 roms before I finally stuck with cyanogen mod 7, which had everything I was looking for built in.
The main 2 things I want with this Gs3 is free wifi tether and ability to move apps to sd card.
I read a post about native tether and it looked like someone got it working on jelly bean? Not native tether but some kind of wifi tether.
Streve or something like that?
Uhg.. I am rambling, let me make this short and sweet.
1)Can I have wifi tether on jelly bean?
2)Can I have app to sd on galaxy s3?
3)Can I have call recording?
I am stock 4.1.1 with root right now but am willing to go with a custom ROM to get these features... Don't care if its 4.1.1 or 4.0.4 as long as I can get these working. #3 isn't too important.
Please point me to where I need to be if these things or part of these things are possible?
I would like to be as stable as possible.
I'm not the type to be changing roms all the time.
Also, what is the way to go if I need a custom ROM and want to get my apps back and such? Without having to set them all up again, if thats possible?
I consider myself a noob again since so much has changed since my htc incredible.
Thanks so much and I apologize if I piss anybody off with this post. I just don't have the time or energy to read so much info that is available on this site. Just thinking that someone that is familiar with all this would have a much easier time pointing me in the direction I need.
Happy holidays and be safe everybody.
Blind.
Sent from my Galaxy S3 with XDA App.
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1. I use Team Sonic's Free GS3 ROM, and it has WiFi tether included (and working, for me at least). It is accessed in the settings menu. It is a smooth ROM for me, and the install is customizable using the Aroma installer. A very cool way to set up the ROM during the flash process!
2. I believe Google changed the way it partitioned/formated a phone's internal memory, and that is giving problems to moving apps to sd cards. Unless you really download/install a large number of apps, the 11 or so gigs of internal storage that is free is plenty! I just use my sd card as a media storage (pics, music, etc). There are ways to go about moving apps to sd, but I'm not sure it's 100% reliable.
3. Can't help you on that one, sorry!
Whatever you decide (and since you have root), please make a nandroid backup of your current stock configuration! I use TWRP recovery, and it is a great touch-based recovery program. CWM is now touch-based too. Backup first before doing anything else, please!

Im Skeered
Oh boy.. I know people are going to roll their eyes and think I am a freakin idiot.. I prolly am.
I just purchased titanium backup pro and want to make a backup of my stuffs so when I change a rom, I can restore.
Do I really need TB or will google restore my stuff when I log in?
If I do need TB, is there a vid from that qbking77 guy that explains how to do this? The vids I have watched from him are EXCELLENT and VERY easy to follow.
I opened TB and it is so complicated to me that I have no clue where to start.. I did find the option to store my backups on the sd card(made a new folder called"titanium backup")<-----should I have done this?
I searched google and found a vid on using TB and rom change and in the vid the guy goes to backup and selects "batch" but I cant find that on my version of TB..(latest version)... CRAP I just found it.. clicked the checkmark on top right and got that batch screen he had...(see how dumb I am?)
I think I want to just backup "user apps" with no system data, but in TB under "Backup all user apps" it says 0. System data says 228 but wont that interfere with a new rom?
OK, what I want to do is:
First) backup my apps that I have downloaded/purchased.
Second) Install my first rom... The Peoples Rom v3.05.
Third) Restore my backup from TB WITHOUT A HITCH.
Fourth) Try other roms.
Fifth) Restore TB backup WITHOUT A HITCH.
Can someone link me to the info I need(preferably videos because I am a visual learner)?
Or if what I am trying to do is easily accomplished,, explain step by step what I need to do?
I know search is my friend but when I search, I get overwhelmed. I have a boy with down syndrome and he takes most of my time so thats why I am trying to take the easier route.
Thanks for all your patience. It is much appreciated.
Also, feel free to kick me out of here if I am asking too much.. I can definitely understand that.
Blind.

BlindDude said:
Oh boy.. I know people are going to roll their eyes and think I am a freakin idiot.. I prolly am.
I just purchased titanium backup pro and want to make a backup of my stuffs so when I change a rom, I can restore.
Do I really need TB or will google restore my stuff when I log in?
If I do need TB, is there a vid from that qbking77 guy that explains how to do this? The vids I have watched from him are EXCELLENT and VERY easy to follow.
I opened TB and it is so complicated to me that I have no clue where to start.. I did find the option to store my backups on the sd card(made a new folder called"titanium backup")<-----should I have done this?
I searched google and found a vid on using TB and rom change and in the vid the guy goes to backup and selects "batch" but I cant find that on my version of TB..(latest version)... CRAP I just found it.. clicked the checkmark on top right and got that batch screen he had...(see how dumb I am?)
I think I want to just backup "user apps" with no system data, but in TB under "Backup all user apps" it says 0. System data says 228 but wont that interfere with a new rom?
OK, what I want to do is:
First) backup my apps that I have downloaded/purchased.
Second) Install my first rom... The Peoples Rom v3.05.
Third) Restore my backup from TB WITHOUT A HITCH.
Fourth) Try other roms.
Fifth) Restore TB backup WITHOUT A HITCH.
Can someone link me to the info I need(preferably videos because I am a visual learner)?
Or if what I am trying to do is easily accomplished,, explain step by step what I need to do?
I know search is my friend but when I search, I get overwhelmed. I have a boy with down syndrome and he takes most of my time so thats why I am trying to take the easier route.
Thanks for all your patience. It is much appreciated.
Also, feel free to kick me out of here if I am asking too much.. I can definitely understand that.
Blind.
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google restore will not restore app data. i will re-download you most recent batch of apps (i believe that's how it decides what to download, im not 100% sure on the logic behind what it does and does not download.) and stuff like wifi passwords and gmail settings, etc.
If you want to move your app-data (games, books, locations in books, movies, etc) or don't want to download stuff constantly, then you want TB. i use it extensively when testing out new roms so i am not constantly re-downloading my apps and what not.

Ludacon said:
google restore will not restore app data. i will re-download you most recent batch of apps (i believe that's how it decides what to download, im not 100% sure on the logic behind what it does and does not download.) and stuff like wifi passwords and gmail settings, etc.
If you want to move your app-data (games, books, locations in books, movies, etc) or don't want to download stuff constantly, then you want TB. i use it extensively when testing out new roms so i am not constantly re-downloading my apps and what not.
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Thank you. I have been reading the TB how to's. It says to backup my user apps and system data when changing roms...
But when I click on batch. It shows 0 for user apps.. System data shows 228 and User apps+system data shows 228..
Does this seem correct?
I guess I will backup user apps+system data and install a new rom and see what happens.. If it doesnt go well, I can restore my nandroid.

duh,, I messed up and unchecked apps in the filters thinking it was the "all" checkmark
now I have 80 user apps.
Just to make sure,,
I should backup user apps only and NOT system data because the system data might not be compatible with the new rom?
Thanks

BlindDude said:
Thank you. I have been reading the TB how to's. It says to backup my user apps and system data when changing roms...
But when I click on batch. It shows 0 for user apps.. System data shows 228 and User apps+system data shows 228..
Does this seem correct?
I guess I will backup user apps+system data and install a new rom and see what happens.. If it doesnt go well, I can restore my nandroid.
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Don't back up your system apps. Most ROMs come with their own set of system Apps and they don't necessarily play well with each other. you can back up your accounts, your user dictionary, etc......but usually I just back up the user apps. If there are any specific system apps you have that you want to take with you, I'd recommend converting them to user apps through titanium backup and restoring them that way.
The other option is to just dirty flash the roms, this way you don't have to worry about losing your apps/data, but YMMV.

You should get Rom toolbox pro. It has over 20 different apps combined. It's a very polished app, you should check that out for restoring your apps. For your flashoholic\noob needs.
Silly sheeps, S3's arnt for noobs.

Hey, A BIG THANKS to all of you that chimed in here.. I thought I would get flamed because of my stupidity but not one person scolded me.
I have finally flashed my first rom.
I backed up "user apps" only with TB
Then booted into clockworkmod recovery and wiped cache, delvik, and factory reset all right there.
Then installed zip from sd and everything went great.
upon signing in to my google account, most my apps came back, so I only had to restore 8 of them with TB.
One weird thing happened, I just installed a game last night called "Bike Race Free" and was really liking it but when google was d-loading and installing my apps back, that one came back with "this app is not compatible with your device" but TB restored it fine and it works great. I think I will post on The Peoples Rom thread about it. I was on an IRC channel and one guy said it "might be because the "build.prop" file might of been modified to make it think its a different device or something similar..."
Anyway, I feel comfortable now about flashing roms. It was easier than when I did it over 2 years ago on my Droid Inc.
Thanks again all.
Oh and I will look into that app you mentioned Brandonrz,, RomToolBox Pro. Thanks

BlindDude said:
Hey, A BIG THANKS to all of you that chimed in here.. I thought I would get flamed because of my stupidity but not one person scolded me.
I have finally flashed my first rom.
I backed up "user apps" only with TB
Then booted into clockworkmod recovery and wiped cache, delvik, and factory reset all right there.
Then installed zip from sd and everything went great.
upon signing in to my google account, most my apps came back, so I only had to restore 8 of them with TB.
One weird thing happened, I just installed a game last night called "Bike Race Free" and was really liking it but when google was d-loading and installing my apps back, that one came back with "this app is not compatible with your device" but TB restored it fine and it works great. I think I will post on The Peoples Rom thread about it. I was on an IRC channel and one guy said it "might be because the "build.prop" file might of been modified to make it think its a different device or something similar..."
Anyway, I feel comfortable now about flashing roms. It was easier than when I did it over 2 years ago on my Droid Inc.
Thanks again all.
Oh and I will look into that app you mentioned Brandonrz,, RomToolBox Pro. Thanks
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Some apps arent JB compatible yet which is the most common reason ive see for apps not being compatible. Less common are DPI changes and resolution issues.
I second RomToolBox Pro, excellent app for all your rooting needs