So before I ask my question I wanna make one thing clear. I have 100% respect for the devs that work on our phones and can't wait to see what ICS source brings us.
Now to the question. Before all these ICS leaks we had EL29 source for our phone. However we only ever had on variant of custom kernel (Rogue). All I keep hearing is that once source drops for ICS we'll see a lot of custom ROMs and kernels. If we have source for GB why aren't there any other custom kernels? I guess I'm just a little confused on what source will bring us, besides allowing us to build a pure AOSP kernel and allow over and underclocking on TW roms.
Are you saying rogue was the only gb kernel for this phone?
If so you haven't been here long..
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chris41g said:
Are you saying rogue was the only gb kernel for this phone?
If so you haven't been here long..
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I believe he is referring to gunslinger/hitman and all the kernels before it made by team rogue which allowed voltage changing and overclocking. Not the repacked stock kernels.
LoStKernel. Zedomax. Plus kernel. That's without actually looking.
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So im curious is there an overclockable kernel for ics that i can use with set cpu. All i see are stock kernels. Are we waiting for more development on kernels? On gb i could over clock to 1.7 which was awesome.
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XBMC4LIFE said:
So im curious is there an overclockable kernel for ics that i can use with set cpu. All i see are stock kernels. Are we waiting for more development on kernels? On gb i could over clock to 1.7 which was awesome.
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im taking a guess here, so someone correct me if im wrong, but i think everyone is waiting for the ics source to be released b4 they start makeing custom kernels.
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Use the search function. It's already been posted that you can use Tegrak to overclock the stock kernel, even on ICS
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Doesnt work with cm9,miui, and apperently aokp, since im on aokp and it says kernal not available. Custom kernels would be awesome right now
To begin with we don't have the source. It's not as simple as splitting the zImage and typing in some numbers. Also, there's very little demand for OC'd kernels on this phone. Most people that OC do it to increase performance, reduce lag, play games, and a few other things. Basically they do it for a reason. The ones that do it just because or so they can show it off to their friends are a very small group. Since the majority don't feel overclocking is necessary on this phone there won't be too many OC'd kernels even when we get the source.
So I know what AOKP and AOSP both stand for, but I'm not quite sure what they are. What makes it so that some ROMs called themselves AOSP but others don't? I thought AOSP just meant Android Open Source Project... so wouldn't every ROM be an AOSP that isn't the stock Sprint ROM?
Another question I have is about Android 4.0.4. From my understanding, most ROMs are Android 4.0.3. But if the Sprint leaks are all 4.0.3, where are people getting 4.0.4 from? What are the major differences anyways?
Sorry for the noob questions. I've just been wondering for awhile and whenever I search, I can never find a good description asides from what the acronyms AOKP and AOSP stand for.
Most roms that call themselves AOSP are made to look as close as possible to stock android. Also, the reason we are able to have Android 4.0.4 roms is because those roms are ports from other devices rather than built straight from the leaks. The only noticeable difference between 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 is better battery life.
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Most roms that call themselves AOSP are made to look as close as possible to stock android. Also, the reason we are able to have Android 4.0.4 roms is because those roms are ports from other devices rather than built straight from the leaks. The only noticeable difference between 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 is better battery life.
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Ohh makes sense, thanks. What about AOKP then? Would that be everything else? I always heard that Kang meant to either improve on someone's ideas or steal it.
AOSP is straight up Android, no manufacturer over lay (TouchWiz, Sense, Blur). The AOSP roms tend to have a lot more tweaks and customizability since they are built from Android source, and our devs, as generous as they are, like to include goodies for us to make our phones as cool as possible.
AoSP (aokp,cm9,codename) are built from Google's source repos. This is also where 4.0.4 is from, its the next update for ICS with many bug fixes including video(Netflix,YouTube) and video in browser working, as well as many other numerous bug fixes within the code. The manufacturers have 4.0.3 have already put alot of work into it and will continue using it as their base until they have the initial release out then will start merging 4.0.4 into their upstream, to be included I'm the next round of OTA's. Anything 4.0.4 is AOSP meaning pure android no 3rd party manufacturer UI such as TouchWiz(Samsung),Blur(Motorola),or Sense(HTC). AOSP is what ships on the Nexus line, also called the Google experience.
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Ohh makes sense, thanks. What about AOKP then? Would that be everything else? I always heard that Kang meant to either improve on someone's ideas or steal it.
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Kang does mean stolen code. AOKP is a rom built by a group that likes to call themselves Team Kang.
Makes a lot of sense, thanks everyone! Never knew that aosp was a customized vanilla rom
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Kang does mean stolen code. AOKP is a rom built by a group that likes to call themselves Team Kang.
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Stolen? Like from other programmers Roms? Does the scene support this?
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Android is open source meaning no one owns anything, its all shared under the Apache license. So technically no one is stealing anything, a Kang is using other developers code and either adding your own onto it or combining multiple sources to make the existing code better
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I have a quick question, why do I have to go back to a rooted EL26 to flash AOKP/AOSP? Why can't I use the current recovery like rouge recovery? Is it not the same?
abusedcloth said:
I have a quick question, why do I have to go back to a rooted EL26 to flash AOKP/AOSP? Why can't I use the current recovery like rouge recovery? Is it not the same?
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I believe it is to avoid bricking of phones. Ics rouge is known to brick phones so that's why you can't flash using well not recommended
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daniel4653 said:
I believe it is to avoid bricking of phones. Ics rouge is known to brick phones so that's why you can't flash using well not recommended
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What about EL29 rouge recovery?
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EL29 is a repacked version of CWM, ICS flashes are most successful on bare CWM. You go to EL26 (a stock CWM) to help prevent issues, its the safest route to (and from) ICS
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Stolen? Like from other programmers Roms? Does the scene support this?
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Android is open source meaning no one owns anything, its all shared under the Apache license. So technically no one is stealing anything, a Kang is using other developers code and either adding your own onto it or combining multiple sources to make the existing code better
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I never said anything about how the word Kang applies to Android. In general it means stolen code but in this case it means improving on the source code.
Where are the custom kernels with UV and all the cool features at?
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The devs are still waiting on kernel source.
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Where are the customer kernels with UV and all the cool features at?
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Bored again huh?
So for now only stock kernels?
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They are all running Android Gingerbread.
Any good kernel to use with Calk's 3.0 and any good modem?
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Any good kernel to use with Calk's 3.0 and any good modem?
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Everyone has a different experience with the modems and the kernels too. You will have to experiment. Calkulin's GB 3.0 comes with a modified Rogue Gunslinger 1.4.1 kernel.
Located here are most of the Rogue stock and custom kernels:
http://www.android.net/forum/downloa...=&do=cat&id=20
Here are the custom rogue kernels that are missing, scroll down to -Archives-:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ght=team+rogue
Most users prefer the custom kernels since they offer more support than the stock kernels.
Okay,let me experiment and get Back. Thanx
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Is it possible that we will see an ICS kernel built from source that has been tweaked to support overclocking as well as undervolting?
I realise that source has just came out for our phone but at the same time I find that ICS is rather laggier and has much more latency than when I used GB Juggernaut OC's to 1.73 ghz. Irreguardless of people that will hate on me for saying I experience latency with stock and custom ICS Roms, I am still just wondering if we will be able to OC again one day while on Android 4.0+.
Additionaly,
I know that TheDerekJay has a custom kernel called "Venom" but I do not believe it has OC capabilities.
Does anyone have information pertaining to this subject. All help will be appreciated and thanked
Illuminatiii_X said:
Is it possible that we will see an ICS kernel built from source that has been tweaked to support overclocking as well as undervolting?
I realise that source has just came out for our phone but at the same time I find that ICS is rather laggier and has much more latency than when I used GB Juggernaut OC's to 1.73 ghz. Irreguardless of people that will hate on me for saying I experience latency with stock and custom ICS Roms, I am still just wondering if we will be able to OC again one day while on Android 4.0+.
Additionaly,
I know that TheDerekJay has a custom kernel called "Venom" but I do not believe it has OC capabilities.
Does anyone have information pertaining to this subject. All help will be appreciated and thanked
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Give them a few weeks, I am sure they will have a few that will Overclock/underclock.
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Illuminatiii_X said:
Is it possible that we will see an ICS kernel built from source that has been tweaked to support overclocking as well as undervolting?
I realise that source has just came out for our phone but at the same time I find that ICS is rather laggier and has much more latency than when I used GB Juggernaut OC's to 1.73 ghz. Irreguardless of people that will hate on me for saying I experience latency with stock and custom ICS Roms, I am still just wondering if we will be able to OC again one day while on Android 4.0+.
Additionaly,
I know that TheDerekJay has a custom kernel called "Venom" but I do not believe it has OC capabilities.
Does anyone have information pertaining to this subject. All help will be appreciated and thanked
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Wanna check DEREK's ROM. DARKSIDE EVOLUTION. It includes an OC/UV kernek.
alphadog32 said:
Wanna check DEREK's ROM. DARKSIDE EVOLUTION. It includes an OC/UV kernek.
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If your talking about his latest build with the Venom kernel, no OC built in yet.
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jwalker279 said:
If your talking about his latest build with the Venom kernel, no OC built in yet.
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But I think it has undervolting.
Give 'em time. Faux is working on one, but asks for patience. I'm sure MrX is too, but is probably concentrating on CM9, since he's part of that team.
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I know we all love to have the most battery life possible on s2, but has there has not really been a kernel that allows over clock. Not sure if the reason is because of lack of demand because of better battery life without it or that gingerbread and ics roms dont support it?
Last I remember Zedomax or something was the last kernel to offer oc, but it had issues with Lost back when the s2 first came out.
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As far as I know, the custom GB kernels have always allowed overclocking.
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Overclocking does not apply to ICS btw
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Also, ICS doesn't have source yet. Once source drops we will see alot more being done with kernels and ROMs.
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Ah Gotcha. Thanks for the info!
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We'll get over-clocking support for the ICS ROMs when we can get the ICS source. I'm actually thinking there is a way to do it without the source though at least on NTC devices. Let me go look for that link...