New article on Windows Phone dev blog:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsphone/archive/2010/03/18/know-your-audience.aspx
I think we are not their audience ...
I read some people wrote nice feedbacks there!
I'ma let you finish Microsoft, going on and on about how you know best about things I want but the Andoid is going to be the best port ever on my HD2.
ronkra said:
I'ma let you finish Microsoft, going on and on about how you know best about things I want but the Andoid is going to be the best port ever on my HD2.
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If you want to keep to a 4.3 inch screen size and likes Android, there is HTC supersonic on the way.
In all honesty it is the HTC Supersonic that probably is going to speed up the port to HD2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649295
First of all, nobody uses Windows Mobile, especially in America. Second of all XDA is a community of Windows Mobile users. Third, the end-user are consumers, not a specific community of consumers.
Who are these consumers? The communities all together.
LaptopMag is having a battle of the smartphone OSes and Windows Phone 7 is up against Web OS in the championship. Don't let Web OS win; they beat Android, so they must have some serious campaigning going on. Spread the word, too!
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I really don't get the appeal of webOS... it's about as dull as blackberry with the functionality of bada... I tried it out (finally) on a junk device that somebody forgot to pick up and I was in no way impressed...
gogo help WP7
Thanks for your support!
Wife and I voted. We each have a focus.
After more than 1 year Windows phone is still at the bottom of the ladder with only 1% of the marketshare. If this continue the way they are Windows Phone might be completed dead. Microsoft is kind of late to the game, will Windows 8 and Apollo change the current situation or WP be complete dead a year or two from now and be killed off just like WebOS?
time will show us...but i dont think wp is gona die...maybe windows mobile
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Who knows but i will enjoy it till the end
it's a wonderful OS but why does it have so much trouble gaining marketshare?
Who knows, who cares... just enjoying the ride in this awesome new mobile OS.
I love the new zen responses to a thread that could get out of hand. Who knows how long something will last. Does anything last forever?
Windows Phone 7 actually doubled in marketshare! 1% in 2010 to 2% end of 2011. That is some massive growth I tell ya.
Actually its only just that people start to know about WP7 in holland. The shops here have only mockups mostly, but oddly enough the lumia devices and the htc radar were all functional devices in the stores. So that's really good.
There is just not enough trust yet, lots of doubts because its still considered new. But its gaining awareness and lumias are selling well, so this will be just a matter of time. I mean its in general a phone for 2 years you buy so people a really careful with buying something "new".
Just give it another year, I am seeing ads for the lumia everywhere now so that's a good sign. People love the design and like how the OS looks, they just don't know what I can do yet until a friend/colleague shows/tells them.
I only know 2 people having a WP7. My girlfriend (because I told her to buy it) and a friend of mine (the one who told me to buy WM6.1 a few years ago).
I think, meanwhile mi girlfriend or better ex-girlfriend, has an Android phone... she was very upset with me about that. she spend a lot of money for that WP7.
and now guess why she left me...
ok, not because of the phone, but its one of the reasons hahaah.
Here in Spain I think its less tan 1% the WP7 market...
But WP7 won't die, because it was never born HAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.
I'm an Idiot!
WP will not DIE eventually it will loose its smartphone customers.
WM 6.5 was fine until MS started rolling out WP7.
its been a year still no sign of growth.
I think something you could do to help WP is stop opening another "WP WILL DIE" thread. Everybody already knows marketshare is not the good point about WP.
What you should ask yourself is :
Is my phone fast ?
Do I have the apps I need ?
Do I like this phone ?
Do I prefer WP over Android ?
If you answer yes to these questions, there is no reason to spread pessimism.
Hype and mood are important things for such products, don't you know ?
dragonide said:
I think something you could do to help WP is stop opening another "WP WILL DIE" thread. Everybody already knows marketshare is not the good point about WP.
What you should ask yourself is :
Is my phone fast ?
Do I have the apps I need ?
Do I like this phone ?
Do I prefer WP over Android ?
If you answer yes to these questions, there is no reason to spread pessimism.
Hype and mood are important things for such products, don't you know ?
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This. I also hate when people say Windows phone came "late" into the game. It's never too late. De people really expect we will still be using iOS and Android in the year 3000? Give me a break. As long as you can prove to consumers your product does the job better than the competition its NEVER too late.
dragonide said:
I think something you could do to help WP is stop opening another "WP WILL DIE" thread. Everybody already knows marketshare is not the good point about WP.
What you should ask yourself is :
Is my phone fast ?
Do I have the apps I need ?
Do I like this phone ?
Do I prefer WP over Android ?
If you answer yes to these questions, there is no reason to spread pessimism.
Hype and mood are important things for such products, don't you know ?
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You see this is the irony here. Windows Phone is supposed to be a business product, but instead Microsoft here has taken away it's only real reason for me get a Windows phone.
I need a phone that can sync easily and cost-free with Microsoft Office Outlook. And Windows Phone 7 can not do that, there is no task, contact sync without exchange account. And most people do not have an exchange account.
This is ridiculous, Microsoft have been pushing Xbox integration instead of Office integration. They marketing WP more of a gaming/multimedia device than a serious business phone. The irony is that iPhone now have better business integration than WP.
I want a communication and a business tool, not a time wasting handheld gaming music device.
Microsoft don't care about the people who supported Windows Mobile, they just want marketshare and profit by chasing after iPhone users by dumbing down Windows Mobile and making it look pretty and added gaming functions.
Until Microsoft gives us business users what we deserve, I will continue to use Android.
FinancialWar said:
it's a wonderful OS but why does it have so much trouble gaining marketshare?
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Because no body cares for an iPhone like phone with it's restrictions and lack of functionality. Coming from WM like just about every long time Windows Phone supporters WP is a slap in the face; a buch of ex WM people have jumped ship to either Android or for the lesser part the iPhone. It's Microsoft's own fault things are the way they are, come on you can't even add attachments other than pictures directly from Outlook, you can add documents but you have to to to the Office Hub which makes no sense because WP is supposed to eliminate extra steps and forget about audio files. I can go on and on but I'm getting tired of hearing my self; the ones that need to listen is Microsoft instead of telling us what we want.
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FinancialWar said:
You see this is the irony here. Windows Phone is supposed to be a business product, but instead Microsoft here has taken away it's only real reason for me get a Windows phone.
I need a phone that can sync easily and cost-free with Microsoft Office Outlook. And Windows Phone 7 can not do that, there is no task, contact sync without exchange account. And most people do not have an exchange account.
This is ridiculous, Microsoft have been pushing Xbox integration instead of Office integration. They marketing WP more of a gaming/multimedia device than a serious business phone. The irony is that iPhone now have better business integration than WP.
I want a communication and a business tool, not a time wasting handheld gaming music device.
Microsoft don't care about the people who supported Windows Mobile, they just want marketshare and profit by chasing after iPhone users by dumbing down Windows Mobile and making it look pretty and added gaming functions.
Until Microsoft gives us business users what we deserve, I will continue to use Android.
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Agreed, well put.
FinancialWar said:
You see this is the irony here. Windows Phone is supposed to be a business product, but instead Microsoft here has taken away it's only real reason for me get a Windows phone.
I need a phone that can sync easily and cost-free with Microsoft Office Outlook. And Windows Phone 7 can not do that, there is no task, contact sync without exchange account. And most people do not have an exchange account.
This is ridiculous, Microsoft have been pushing Xbox integration instead of Office integration. They marketing WP more of a gaming/multimedia device than a serious business phone. The irony is that iPhone now have better business integration than WP.
I want a communication and a business tool, not a time wasting handheld gaming music device.
Microsoft don't care about the people who supported Windows Mobile, they just want marketshare and profit by chasing after iPhone users by dumbing down Windows Mobile and making it look pretty and added gaming functions.
Until Microsoft gives us business users what we deserve, I will continue to use Android.
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I honestly think most "business" users will have an Exchange account.
I understand your frustration with the lack of Outlook sync, but there are ways to sync without Exchange or Outlook.
You can use a Hotmail account to sync most of what you want. You can also integrate your Hotmail account into Outlook with the Outlook Connector.
I use a hosted Exchange account because I have my own domain name for my email. It costs me less than $100 a year, and it's well worth it to me.
LexusFman said:
This. I also hate when people say Windows phone came "late" into the game. It's never too late. De people really expect we will still be using iOS and Android in the year 3000? Give me a break. As long as you can prove to consumers your product does the job better than the competition its NEVER too late.
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Coming in late has nothing to do with it; giving us a phone that can't do half the stuff it's predessosor did is a stupid move by a major big time company that should know better is! Even the crappy Blackberry with it's lame OS can do more than WP as far as functions come. WP needs to stop trying to be like the freakin' iPhone for starters and then maybe they can actually reach their goal of being 3rd by 2014 or what ever they predicted.
LexusFman said:
This. I also hate when people say Windows phone came "late" into the game. It's never too late. De people really expect we will still be using iOS and Android in the year 3000? Give me a break. As long as you can prove to consumers your product does the job better than the competition its NEVER too late.
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Plus, you could argue that they were FIRST to the game, back when Palm and Windows Pocket PC edition were the only PDA/smartphone choices. Apple stood on the shoulders of others, so to speak, and iOS owed a lot to the existence of Palm/Windows Mobile, even if as an example of what NOT to do! Similarly, Microsoft was gutsy enough to scrap Windows Mobile and learn from the newest comers, iOS and Android, to leapfrog smartphone OSes again!
I think Windows Phone will prove to have some legs, so long as MS doesn't botch the Windows 8/Windows Phone 8 paradigm. That said, the original post in this thread is lame and baiting. Surprised it has replies at all.
naplesbill said:
I honestly think most "business" users will have an Exchange account.
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Think again.
Do you think all the non-IT white collar workers such as investment bankers, lawyers, doctors and other millions of professionals who have absolute no interest in IT whatsoever would have the time or motivation to learn about MS exchange, office 356 and other MS productions just get their phone to sync well with Outlook?
No.
FinancialWar said:
You see this is the irony here. Windows Phone is supposed to be a business product, but instead Microsoft here has taken away it's only real reason for me get a Windows phone.
I need a phone that can sync easily and cost-free with Microsoft Office Outlook. And Windows Phone 7 can not do that, there is no task, contact sync without exchange account. And most people do not have an exchange account.
This is ridiculous, Microsoft have been pushing Xbox integration instead of Office integration. They marketing WP more of a gaming/multimedia device than a serious business phone. The irony is that iPhone now have better business integration than WP.
I want a communication and a business tool, not a time wasting handheld gaming music device.
Microsoft don't care about the people who supported Windows Mobile, they just want marketshare and profit by chasing after iPhone users by dumbing down Windows Mobile and making it look pretty and added gaming functions.
Until Microsoft gives us business users what we deserve, I will continue to use Android.
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Unfortunately, it looks like you've fallen through the cracks! Most home users abandoned Outlook as their primary email software a half-dozen years ago, and I'd agree with others that a vast majority of Outlook users are corporate users with an exchange account that syncs flawlessly with Windows Phone (I know I am).
I switched from Outlook to Outlook Express a decade ago for home use, then eventually to Windows Live Mail and a Hotmail account. Everyone I know (even my grandparents!) are using web-based email at this point, be it gMail, Yahoo or Hotmail. Windows Live accounts mimic Outlook functionality for consumers: my wife and I share calendars, to-do lists, and contacts, all synced quietly and wirelessly, with a combination of Windows Live accounts. These are further integrated seamlessly with our calendars, contacts and email from our corporate exchange accounts. It's a beautiful thing, I can totally understand why Microsoft has dropped the old-school "plug in to your computer and manually sync with Outlook paradigm."
How does it go...evolve or die?
It will not die but WP7 series will get quickly abandoned by MS for WP8 at this rate. (and it's totally their fault for the slow release cycles)
Another entertaining junk! Keep them coming boys
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Seen the 710 on Sunday NFL Countdown this morning. The break right before Picks when everyone is watching, playoff time. Funny what money and Nokia will do for you. I firmly feel 12 will be the year WP starts to turn the corner. The sky is the limit, it up to Microsoft to deliver.
I'll be waiting for Brady kick Tebow's butt today but, I hope it does become the year for WP7.
I dont just count billions of sales to be "making it", it's when it's accepted everywhere. When my local TV/Radio station that has iOS and Android apps, start offering WP7 apps and when the big apps/games hit on iOS/Android, they get a release the same week on WP7.
Then WP7 will really make it...
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I'll be waiting for Brady kick Tebow's butt today but, I hope it does become the year for WP7.
I dont just count billions of sales to be "making it", it's when it's accepted everywhere. When my local TV/Radio station that has iOS and Android apps, start offering WP7 apps and when the big apps/games hit on iOS/Android, they get a release the same week on WP7.
Then WP7 will really make it...
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Agreed on everything, including I hope Uncle Bill and Uncle Tom teach young Timmy something about playing football in the snow.
Still, to me, it feels like the platform has a much needed second wind. The excitement over W8 plus the Metro update on the X-box dashboard and the Nokia's it feels new and different. Obviously it could all fall apart but I'm hopefull.
through out history there is little growth for the third player. I hope Microsoft will improve their product and raise awareness for Windows Phone!
FinancialWar said:
through out history there is little growth for the third player. I hope Microsoft will improve their product and raise awareness for Windows Phone!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSs-xLW7Eno&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Your "awareness" plea made me think of this ^
There was another post higher about "billions of sales" not being a qualified metric for realization of success. That, I just can't get my head wrapped around. Is windows a bigger success than mac, because of desktop sales?
Discus..
Well, windows phone still looks pretty dead to me
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Well, windows phone still looks pretty dead to me
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Necro bumping just for the sake of trolling? You must be really bored...
Yes, I think this thread may have served its purpose a while back now.
As such, closed.
Hey Friends,
I'm running a little giveaway to win a mug showing your support for Windows Phone.
Head here to enter!
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Hey Friends,
I'm running a little giveaway to win a mug showing your support for Windows Phone.
Head here to enter!
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No retweets, no coments, no love ?
Hell I'll take the mug if no one wants it. Folks will wonder wthell it means when we're wrenching inthe garage.
Just sent the tweet! Like you said, hell I'll take the mug
Can't wait for the winner to tweet:
"I GOT MUGGED for WINDOWS PHONE'
Sent my Tweet. Windows phone and coffee every morning and afternoon.
Ahhh crap, I don't do social networking (twit / fb / whatever) so I can't have the mug ? No one is posting on the thread.... should go to the first person interested ;-)
I'll even post pictures of it being used on mountains, valleys, campsites, and gymkhanas.
U.S. Only - damn! Good luck guys.