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A simple question, there a number of updates that froyo brings,
speed, apps to sd, auto update apps, wi-fi tethering, flash etc...
My question is, what are people looking forward to most.
Heres a good article stating some improvements, plus couple of the little ones
you dont read about.
http://lifehacker.com/5545923/android-22-screenshots-our-favorite-features-in-froyo
My personal favourite thing to look forward to is full flash support, just to sit on my phone and play the little flash games, for free, will bring me hours of entertainment.
p.s
This is not a thread to discuss how or when we are getting froyo, just
a thread about what froyo actually brings!
Hopefully improved battery life!
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Hopefully improved battery life!
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App to SD, definitly.
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Nice topic.
I think I cant really pick one. Apps2SD is very nice.
1. You wont have the problem of thinking if you have space left before you download something. No more 'I really want this Raging Thunder 2 demo, but its 20 mb!'
2. Developers will start bringing better apps, because now people won't hesitate to download a high quality game because of their limited internal storage.
So yeah, I think Apps2SD will be very important. Also nice is the speed improvement, JIT or whatever it is called.
About Flash I am having mixed feelings now. I have seen some Pocketnow footage of the flash beta and it really destroys the browser. But like always, I think it is very good that we get the OPTION to use flash, if we ever need it. I dont need somebody (Steve) telling me what I can and can't do with my phone.
Oh, I also like the new stock Android look. But I guess we Sense users wont be using that.
One more thing, I really hope they bring the Nexus One 'fade in and out' animation when opening and closing apps. I really like that.
SPEEEEED!!!! and Flash
Yer, good point about animations and stuff, i like the 3d application view in nexus.
Reguards to flash, yer it nice to have a choice, i believe there 3 settings, full flash, flash when you click on it, or off, which is a nice touch i think, we have choice
Apps 2 sd will be good too, very true that developers will introduce better apps due to having more room, such as need for speed, which i think is 20mb +.
So I am developing my plan/process to do my first root.
I have decided on Syndicate because it seems like the most stripped down version from what I have read, stable and fast.
With that said, I am having trouble deciding on which kernel. I do understand that every phone is different, that my Epic may not take one rom and or kernl but will take another.
GOAL: I am wanting to make my phone as fast as possible on the stock speed. I dont care about overclocking or anything like that. I want default there. But I want to make sure the kernel I choose is as stable as possible and plays nice with the battery. (edit: when I say fast as possible, I just mean zero lag, easily moves between screens and apps)
Since my 64gb ipod was stolen, I am going to be using my Epic and Google Music for my mp3 player, so music quality is my top concern.
I will then theme my phone, most likely just icons though.
with that said, I guess I have a few choices? TwilightZone, Genocide, etc. I am reading as much as I can, but cant really see what benefit one gets over the other.
I do not tether.
I always use wireless when I can.
Mostly music, some facebook, I do use it to browse.
Then the normal..texting, phone, etc.
If you see any confusion on my part, please go easy on me and let me know
lardo5150 said:
So I am developing my plan/process to do my first root.
I have decided on Syndicate because it seems like the most stripped down version from what I have read, stable and fast.
With that said, I am having trouble deciding on which kernel. I do understand that every phone is different, that my Epic may not take one rom and or kernl but will take another.
GOAL: I am wanting to make my phone as fast as possible on the stock speed. I dont care about overclocking or anything like that. I want default there. But I want to make sure the kernel I choose is as stable as possible and plays nice with the battery. (edit: when I say fast as possible, I just mean zero lag, easily moves between screens and apps)
Since my 64gb ipod was stolen, I am going to be using my Epic and Google Music for my mp3 player, so music quality is my top concern.
I will then theme my phone, most likely just icons though.
with that said, I guess I have a few choices? TwilightZone, Genocide, etc. I am reading as much as I can, but cant really see what benefit one gets over the other.
I do not tether.
I always use wireless when I can.
Mostly music, some facebook, I do use it to browse.
Then the normal..texting, phone, etc.
If you see any confusion on my part, please go easy on me and let me know
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Genocide 2.0 by Rodderick. Hands down
Thanks, I appreciate the response.
Poweramp has been my musc player top choice... if you use slacker and set it to cache while you sleep you can replay your cached selection without using any data later, data connection kills battery in the background too. I have no clue of what kernels to reccomend since I recently flashed to eh17 deodexed stock. I prefer to make my modifications on my own though, just so I can learn them all by hand for a future rom release
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couple of reasons I chose google music. (poweramp seems to be the most recommended though, and I would go with it, but.....)
I want my entire music library with me, so I can choose anything I want. That is why I had the 64gb ipod.
With the epic, I can go up to 32gb micro sd, but at the moment, no money, not until November (we will be credit card free then )
So, with Google music, it is free (at the moment), and I can load up my entire library. Sound quality is just fine.
Once I get the 32gb microsd, I will switch to poweramp.
Try out all the kernels. See which one work well with your device.
Revolt kernel has a lot of praise, as does the newest Twilight.
Many people swear by Genocide though, so that's what I've got for you.
lardo5150 said:
So I am developing my plan/process to do my first root.
I have decided on Syndicate because it seems like the most stripped down version from what I have read, stable and fast.
With that said, I am having trouble deciding on which kernel. I do understand that every phone is different, that my Epic may not take one rom and or kernl but will take another.
GOAL: I am wanting to make my phone as fast as possible on the stock speed. I dont care about overclocking or anything like that. I want default there. But I want to make sure the kernel I choose is as stable as possible and plays nice with the battery. (edit: when I say fast as possible, I just mean zero lag, easily moves between screens and apps)
Since my 64gb ipod was stolen, I am going to be using my Epic and Google Music for my mp3 player, so music quality is my top concern.
I will then theme my phone, most likely just icons though.
with that said, I guess I have a few choices? TwilightZone, Genocide, etc. I am reading as much as I can, but cant really see what benefit one gets over the other.
I do not tether.
I always use wireless when I can.
Mostly music, some facebook, I do use it to browse.
Then the normal..texting, phone, etc.
If you see any confusion on my part, please go easy on me and let me know
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lardo5150 said:
So I am developing my plan/process to do my first root.
I have decided on Syndicate because it seems like the most stripped down version from what I have read, stable and fast.
With that said, I am having trouble deciding on which kernel. I do understand that every phone is different, that my Epic may not take one rom and or kernl but will take another.
GOAL: I am wanting to make my phone as fast as possible on the stock speed. I dont care about overclocking or anything like that. I want default there. But I want to make sure the kernel I choose is as stable as possible and plays nice with the battery. (edit: when I say fast as possible, I just mean zero lag, easily moves between screens and apps)
Since my 64gb ipod was stolen, I am going to be using my Epic and Google Music for my mp3 player, so music quality is my top concern.
I will then theme my phone, most likely just icons though.
with that said, I guess I have a few choices? TwilightZone, Genocide, etc. I am reading as much as I can, but cant really see what benefit one gets over the other.
I do not tether.
I always use wireless when I can.
Mostly music, some facebook, I do use it to browse.
Then the normal..texting, phone, etc.
If you see any confusion on my part, please go easy on me and let me know
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Rodderik genocide eco 5 is a great one also
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I am looking for a suggestion on a stable rom that has good compatibility with most market games. Not going to be doing a lot of tweaking, but decent battery and wifi would also be a plus...
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I am looking for a suggestion on a stable rom that has good compatibility with most market games. Not going to be doing a lot of tweaking, but decent battery and wifi would also be a plus...
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You might want to go with a CM7 ROM as they have the best battery life and good compatability with a lot of market games.
I'll tell you what I did for my two year old. I installed Alien Droid, because it has the ability to hide the status bar. Installed a bunch of kids learning games and flash card type apps. And I set up a user account for him with very limited functionality (i.e. no access to app drawer). And with no access to the status bar, I can be sure he doesn't inadvertantly screw with any settings.
The only thing he can do under his account is play his games.
The only problem to that is you can switch between user accounts just by holding the power button and I haven't seen a way (although I didn't look into it that much) to protect the master user account from unauthorized access (on second thought, you might be able to set up a password/pattern protected lockscreen). Luckily, since he's only two, I don't have to worry too much about it.
Thanks guys, that is exactly the type of info I am looking for.
Sbloods cm7 would be the way to go if battery life is a top factor
I run it... charge the battery once every week with moderate use
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I've been an AOSB user for a long time now, it's a great kitkat rom and does almost everything I've wanted it to do with no issues at all. I just recently wanted to use my phone to watch movies on my HDTV but apparently AOSP roms won't let me do that, at least not with the hdmi cable I already own. Since I didn't want to spend any money on new equipment that may or may not work I decided to try out touchwiz again, I haven't used it since 4.1.2. Some things I'd completely forgotten about, so I thought I'd put my opinions here while they are still fresh in my mind. This might help somebody who is afraid of trying something new, in either direction.
AOSP/CM - 1. Fast. Just opening and switching apps it is noticeably faster than TW.
2. light weight - the roms are generally only maybe 200 mb's and backups generally are quicker.
3. themes - for roms with theme engine you have hundreds of themes at your finger tips, and it only takes a few seconds to switch themes. If you get bored easily looking at the same thing this is a major plus.
4. Depending on the rom you have options, tons and tons of options.
5. again, depending on the rom, you have HALO, multiwindow, active notifications, omniswitch, etc.
BUT...negatives include no wifi calling, signals seem a little worse, and some things (like HDMI out to tv) don't work as well or as easily as TW.
TW - 1. It works. Well. I haven't found any issues in daily use with it.
2. Many of the modifications and options found in AOSP can be added to TW using xposed, plus some TW roms have these options built in.
3. Battery life seems better, with or without custom kernels. At least in standby. With cm I'd lose about 5-6% in 8 or 9 hours overnight, with TW and the same apps and options I lose maybe 3%.
BUT...TW is slower. Not much and not in everything but when it does lag its easy to get annoyed after having used AOSP for months. Maybe the annoyance will go away once I get used to it?
Also, this is just personal opinion but I feel like the settings in TW is just a mess. The "google" way of arranging settings needs a little work but overall I think it's easier to use than samsungs version.
I know this isnt' anything new for most of you but hopefully for somebody who is on the fence and not brave enough to switch from one to the other this will help.
Also, if any aosp/cm users have any help for how I can hook the phone to the tv I'd love to hear it.
Wow,you summed that up nicely. I prefer AOSP for day to day use, but always keep a TW nandroid on hand for those things that only TW will do. Have you tried the chromecast for your TV? They are cheap and work on AOSP and TW.
I don't think Chromecast would work for what I wasn't. I'm not streaming online movies like Netflix, just playing movies that are physically loaded to the SD card. I'm liking tw and I'll keep it for now but if I do figure out how to play movies to the TV I'll probably go back to aosp.
You could use Multiboot TWRP recovery and get the best of both worlds. Use AOSP as your daily driver and switch to TW when you need to.
I've had the Tab S 10.5 for about a month now and the lag while using everyday apps is driving me crazy. My top three offenders are:
1. Chrome
2. Play Newsstand
3. Play Store
I've done the following to help improve things:
- Changed launcher to Nova.
- Disabled bloatware (everything I can without rooting).
- Installed Chrome Samsung support library.
3D heavy games seem to run fine. My last tablet was a HP touchpad running CM11 so I am used to dealing with a few quirks. I stepped up to the Tab S to get away from some of that though. I know Android is infamous for scroll stutter, but it seems to me that a flagship tablet should easily beat out a bootleg touchpad.
Is this on par? Also, does anyone else's tab s get really hot around the touch screen near the Samsung logo? Maybe the Nexus 9 is worth another look. :silly:
Thanks for your comments.
Edit: I've read similar posts on lag. It seems like the argument boils down to: 1. Personal perception or 2. A mysterious "bad batch" of hardware.
i did the same steps,my tab is full of apps and games but i have 0 lag and the browsing is also fcking smooth. In the settings i also turned of features like dual window.
Are you sure you turned off fully power saving mode? About heating,if i play a game like gta or hearthstone i can also feel a warm area under samsung logo but is not hot and pretty common if you play games.
edith and use chrome beta instead of the standard chrome
Chrome lags on the tab s. Happens to most people. To fix over heating i installed a custom kernel that would optimise and prevent heating. Some big games do lag aswell.
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i did the same steps,my tab is full of apps and games but i have 0 lag and the browsing is also fcking smooth. In the settings i also turned of features like dual window.
Are you sure you turned off fully power saving mode? About heating,if i play a game like gta or hearthstone i can also feel a warm area under samsung logo but is not hot and pretty common if you play games.
edith and use chrome beta instead of the standard chrome
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I am already using chrome beta. The stock broswer is smoother.
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
Latiosman said:
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
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Only on certain apps. Chrome and a few others. On some games it just lags on loading screen but not during gameplay. Watch a veiw reviews on youtube. Theres some videos talking about the lag. Touchwiz launcher also has lag but can be fixed.
Latiosman said:
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
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I think it depends on your perception of lag and what apps you mainly use. In my case, Chrome and Newsstand are always up so I see the lag constantly. I wish I had a Nexus 9 side by side for comparison. If I get a chance I'll take a video, but it might be hard to see. I played with a demo model at Best Buy and it seemed faster than mine as well.
I came from a iPad mini 2 (last year's model) to this tablet. As smooth as my iPad was I have to say I have very little if any lag on mine. It's runs beautifully for me. I'm OCD, any bit of lag would drive me up the wall. I really don't notice hardly anything. I'm still running bone stock everything minus using Nova launcher. Don't even feel like I need to root or flash anything. Although I'm going to once there is a root released for my model. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know. Have had zero issues.
I'm used to an overloaded gs3 so this looks ultra smooth to me [emoji3]
It lags more with multiple user logged in, always reboot of you don't need the additional user
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I came from a iPad mini 2 (last year's model) to this tablet. As smooth as my iPad was I have to say I have very little if any lag on mine. It's runs beautifully for me. I'm OCD, any bit of lag would drive me up the wall. I really don't notice hardly anything. I'm still running bone stock everything minus using Nova launcher. Don't even feel like I need to root or flash anything. Although I'm going to once there is a root released for my model. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know. Have had zero issues.
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For example, this thread's website lags a great deal in chrome beta when scrolling. Other sites aren't too bad. Newsstand is the worst though. Are you using the stock broswer?
This site does lag a little when scrolling. That I do have to admit. For whatever reason it doesn't really bother me however. I've never noticed any scroll stutter on stock android so I attribute it to touchwiz. This thing debloated or running a custom rom probably flys. I imagine any scroll stutter would be gone at that point.
I use the stock browser. I was never a fan of chrome. I know that on touchwiz your going to get the best performance from the stock browser unless there's a fix I'm unaware of which could be a possibility. Newsstand I actually haven't used so I can't speak for it. TouchWiz is just eating up so much ram. I'm like always at 1.5 to 2 gigs of ram with nothing running (other then the tons of unnecessary system apps I can't terminate) That is pretty ridiculous to me. Is touchwiz smooth as stock android? Definitely not. But I really have little to no lag other then scroll stutter on certain sites. I'm still going to root and debloat this thing when it's available for my model so I can truly experience the power of this tablet.
Lol, chrome sucks
It's about time Samsung optimised their flagship device. Had 3 since July and they all lag, stutter when scrolling and render pics poorly. Nova didnt fix the problems and changing some apps like using chrome beta marginally helped.
About time they fixed this via an update rather than just forget about the device and launch more/different models. Samsung will always fail unless it focuses on a core product set and spend the time making the hardware work properly with the software.
I was attacked when I first got my first device for stating lag. Whether an first time user or someone who doesn't want to root (glad I didn't after having 3 replacements), I shouldn't have to kill apps, install different roms and root.
Certain other OS fix problems like these quickly. Where's support from Samsung??
I have the note 4, their es8000 led TV, fridge freezer and various other bits so I'm not a Samsung hater by any means, just someone who expects upgrades to fix problems.
It's hard to determine how much lag is there until you run the same apps side by side with another tablet.
Over Xmas I got a chance to do just that. Ran S 10.5 side by side with my sister's nexus 7 2013. Both running kit kat (hers is 4.4.3 instead of 4.4.2).
Play Store and chrome both run smoother on hers, less jerking and stopping when scrolling. Tapatalk about same. She has Google now launcher, feels faster and smoother than nova launcher on mine. Overall, every thing just feels a little smoother and more fluid.
Granted, the nexus is 1920x1200 so it's pushing fewer pixels around, but the nexus is one year older and I paid $179 for it vs $379 for the S.
I think Samsung slapped on the OLED display and said heh, good enough. Which is true because I bought it
Custom Rom?
I made a rom that is all stock, just a few optimisations. Better performance, better batterylife and so on, here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/prerooted-stock-touchwiz-rom-t2973107
I'd use only stock browser, if it had a full screen option and some gestures, but nope.
My alternative browser is maxthon pioneer, it has everything but stutters a lot
I've had my S 10 since August....I don't like chrome, never have, but after reading all this I opened chrome and came to this forum and I see no issues at all. NONE, other than I don't like chrome
I'm stock not rooted or ROMed. I have Apex launcher installed since day one and disabled all the Samsung and google bloat I could disable.
I have no issues with this tablet other than posting on some forums is a little quirky but that's just the way things are. I normally use Dolphin with the Jetpack or Boat Browser for tablet.
I love this tablet! Sure beats the stuffing out of my Asus TF700T! What a total POC that is!
Joker87 said:
I'd use only stock browser, if it had a full screen option and some gestures, but nope.
My alternative browser is maxthon pioneer, it has everything but stutters a lot
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I just throw in a wipe cache once every few days, and stock browser experience is very smooth, even with the second account logged on, with Facebook, dropbox, carousel and plenty other services in background
Don't worry about the Lag
This lag on Tab S is only temporarily, the Android 5.0 will get rid of 90% of the lag. I know this for fact because I have Note 3 with Touch-wiz it lags often, after installing Android 5.0 I have NOT ONCE run into lag after 1 month of using it.
As of now, the Tab S is supporting android 5.0 cm 12 which there should definitely be no lag but again its unofficial ROM as of now, there are still things they are working on. Samsung's android 5.0 will get rid significant amount of lag, because Android 5.0 have 60 fps animation smoothness, and efficient RAM usage.
I've also heard rumors Samsung is working to refreshing their Touchwiz Interface with slim amount of lag. So, the future is promising.
As of now, if you really can't stand the lag, Install the Android 5.0 ROM for Cm 12, there are afew things not working in their such as Camera, NFC or something else, but the usage should show NO LAG!!!
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As of now, if you really can't stand the lag, Install the Android 5.0 ROM for Cm 12, there are afew things not working in their such as Camera, NFC or something else, but the usage should show NO LAG!!!
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Cyanogenmod for Galaxy tab S??