It seems that the stock camera compress the pictures a lot. Are there any ways to adjust the compression way? maybe smali the camera.apk? Thanks.
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I´d like to know it too. The compression is pretty strong and you can see artifacts even on pictures taken with good light.
I downloaded Camera 360 for this reason - adjustable compression (if I remember)
Try igcamera free version, its the best if you ask me, Camera ICS+ is also good.
Cheers.
Wow! I didn't realize how aggressive the compression was until I tested this.
Took two pictures of the same subject, one with each camera app:
Default Camera app: 1.3mb
ICS Camera app: 4.3mb.
ICS camera pic has noticeably better quality.
Why would HTC do this? What is the benefit of making the pictures so small? They did this on the Vivid, too, including video, and it kind of ruined the quality.
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Wow! I didn't realize how aggressive the compression was until I tested this.
Took two pictures of the same subject, one with each camera app:
Default Camera app: 1.3mb
ICS Camera app: 4.3mb.
ICS camera pic has noticeably better quality.
Why would HTC do this? What is the benefit of making the pictures so small? They did this on the Vivid, too, including video, and it kind of ruined the quality.
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Yup kinda of sucks doesn't it?
Also checkout the different in bit rate when recording with the stock camera and the igcamera or ICS+
You get like 12 mbps in bit rate with the stock and with the others you get 30 or more igcamera has the option to go to 100mbps, the difference is very noticeable.
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Wow! I didn't realize how aggressive the compression was until I tested this.
Took two pictures of the same subject, one with each camera app:
Default Camera app: 1.3mb
ICS Camera app: 4.3mb.
ICS camera pic has noticeably better quality.
Why would HTC do this? What is the benefit of making the pictures so small? They did this on the Vivid, too, including video, and it kind of ruined the quality.
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I'd say it's probably for faster uploading to the web. Dropbox, social networks etc. Which is probably what most users are going to do with the photos they take of their mates vomiting in the gutter when pissed up.
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I have just installed the igcamera and the quality is REALLY REALLY superior to HTC's stock camera. It really makes you wonder what was HTC thinking.
What's igcamera and where can I get it from please ?
Ohhh LG! My bad
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What's igcamera and where can I get it from please ?
Ohhh LG! My bad
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera
Wow! Just installed ICS camera, what a difference! Higher bit rate etc = so much better! Glad I checked this topic, this forum just keeps on giving! Cheers all.
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Wow! Just installed ICS camera, what a difference! Higher bit rate etc = so much better! Glad I checked this topic, this forum just keeps on giving! Cheers all.
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Ics takes worse pictures than stock I found, grainy in low light and over exposed out side.
I took a picture of my dogs in the river by my house with both stock and ics, and ics made the water purple.
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Any other alternatives aside from ics+ and igcamera.? I've found both to be extremely unstable.
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Well I tried the lgcamera and ics camera.. well the lgcamera is bad in low light conditions and ics camera crops the photo.. it doesn't take advantage of the full ratio.. by the way what I did observe the phone gets heated up like crazy at 50 degrees battery temperature.. well loosing a little detail to battery drain I don't mind.. I generally take portrait or group photos in good lighting conditions.. well this is my take on this..
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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39122770/htc one x.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39122770/360.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39122770/ics.jpg
These three photos were taken one after the other in the same conditions, first one is with the stock camera, second one is with camera 360 and the third one is taken with ICS camera, I prefer the stock, more natural colours in my opinion, what does everyone think. This is the north coast of Ireland.
I'm not a pro by any means, but I think we can all agree that images shot in low light conditions with the HTC one x lack detail and are extremely grainy. The image chip was supposedly going to give us a superior camera experience but after trying the stock camera, ics + and a few others I'm still less than impressed. Not giving up hope yet though that the right software modifications could still make this a great point and shooter, as under perfect lighting it performs extremely well.
I'm currently trying procapture. In direct comparison with other alternatives mentioned here, I am finding the images to be of marginally better quality when pointing and shooting in shades and less than ideal indoor lighting. Although blacks remain too gray for my taste.
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The camera takes great pictures under good lighting as examplified by your images. My problem is that for everyday situations, where lighting is usually not ideal, the picture quality is horrendous.
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I've tried almost every camera application I can find and, honestly, I find the stock HTC camera app to be the best. Some applications are better in certain situations, but the stock camera app is the best all round. People always complain about the terrible low light pictures but with the exception of the Galaxy S 3 and some of the Xperia range, I've never owned a phone that can take such good photos.
The advert with the sky diver taking videos and photos is ridiculous and misleading though, those videos and pictures would look awful!
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treebill said:
Ics takes worse pictures than stock I found, grainy in low light and over exposed out side.
I took a picture of my dogs in the river by my house with both stock and ics, and ics made the water purple.
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I agree with you but the recording is nicer with ICS due to the bit rate which HTC SHOULD have fixed somehow...
With every app i tried video recording looses focus
refocusses every 20-25sec or so
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How would you rate the camera of DHD? Lets say 10 is TOO DAMN GOOD and 1 is VERY BAD.
and how about it if you compare it with Dell streaks camera?
Not good at all. Anything at night will be blurd. Even standing still allowing the camera to fully focus gets you a blurred photo. May have 8mpg but the lens is rubbish therefore you will never have that good of a photo. Video is ok all in all as its 720p.
Camera : 3/10
Video : 8/10
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what about the shots in day light? are they good? i don't take much shots at night but in day and some indoors, so how about them?
Daylight shots are, in my view, superb. Low-light shots are pretty bad, as the other guy said earlier. That's true of all camera phones I've owned though...
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I use the camera not very often. The quality and easy to use are not very good
Camera: 2/10 (My HD2 take better pictures for sure)
Video: 5/10
I allready send back two DHD for replace.
(with blur problems).
HTC really disappoint me...
Now i will whating for the Galaxy S2 release.
Camera: 6/10
Video (daylight): 9/10
Video (low light): 4/10
The quality highly depends on how much light is available, I've taken some awesome camera shots and some which were really poor. If your buying the phone only for 8mpx camera, don't bother. It's not all about the pixels.
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Daylight shots are, in my view, superb. Low-light shots are pretty bad, as the other guy said earlier. That's true of all camera phones I've owned though...
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completely agree +1
For me the camera is not that good considering 8mp
I see areas of quality in certain parts of the shot with the rest appearing blurred, and yes the lens has been cleaned with the correct type cloth.
My first pictures made me think about the issue of round lens, square picture, the edges all looked blurred and only the centre was focused.
I have read that altering the default settings from auto make a difference, but not for me, it is only used as an emergency camera.
Video is OK, even 720p, but again, not a perfect device.
But when you remember this is primarily a phone saves having multiple devices
I think is great. There is a guide somewhere here you can use for better results
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Anyone getting ghost effect on recorded 720p videos>?
fast moving objects ( such as my kids) looking blurred/ghosted...
?
koalauk said:
Anyone getting ghost effect on recorded 720p videos>?
fast moving objects ( such as my kids) looking blurred/ghosted...
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If your recording in bad light conditions (eg. inside your house) then yep, that's normal...
So has anyone of you compared the pics with those of a streak? It is my 2nd choice after DHD and since DHD's camera is not that good i am cosidering Dell Streak, so anyone who has compared them?
Hello, i bought a new Arc S. I found, that camera produces really low quality pictures. Is there any way to improve compression? I heard, that CM has a improved quality camera.
Thank you
Hello there
Unfortunately, there is currently no option available to improve the crappy quality of the camera output (compression).
Neither CM7 nor MIUI have any significant improvement in this area.
Are you sure you bought an arc because my arc takes good pics but it isn't an arc s but I find this hard to believe maybe your only taking pictures in the dark ?
Check your settings. Some phones have the camera set to poor quality from start.
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I've bought an Xperia Arc S too about a month ago, but in my opinion the camera is fantastic! Maybe you have to set the camera in high quality. My camera was also standard at 2 MP 16:9. Now I'm using 6 MP 16:9 and the pictures are great, even in the dark.
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Check your settings. Some phones have the camera set to poor quality from start.
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Resolution is already set to 8Mpixels.
Which other settings could I check?
rioka said:
Resolution is already set to 8Mpixels.
Which other settings could I check?
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I'd recommend 6 MP, because it has a 16:9 instead of a 4:3 format.
Mine works awesome with 8MP...
Could you post a pic made by your cam?
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I would also recommend you post the picture you have taken, x10 and arc are best known as their 8M camera, they should be able to take impressive picture compared to all the phone available back then and even able to compete among all phones on the market to date
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I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
I don't say my arc is perfect but It's not really that bad in taking picture .
I'm ok with it ...
Using 6MP 16:9,
maybe Your lens is dirty ! clean it if it's needed.
arc is one of the best camera phones out there.if not the best.
Best camera 2011/2012, it won that price
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The camera is great - no 2 opinions about that.
But after I downgraded from .62 to .42 with data&system wipe, because of the root, my phone started to take really low quality pics in low light - identical conditions, the same camera settings, but now pics appear with a great level of noise, nomatter how I adjust the settings. On videos also. This is my second time downgrading from 62, the first time without wipe - everything was OK, but now I think smthing must have gone wrong - lots of noise and heavy purple dots...
Any ideas how to fix that, cause I really miss the good low light pics - one of the reasons I bought it.
iridaki said:
I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
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+1
Maybe some users are expecting a miracle out of arc's camera (e.g. comparing the pictures against DSLRs' large sensor and lens)
Its great for casual shots and videos imo.
It even won an EISA award.
The camera is great, the software is horrible. MIUI and CM7 support to change the jpg compression, which the stock ROM doesn't. The jpg compression sadly ****s up everything and destroys the overall quality of the shots.
I find the quality of the arc's shots to be great, I don't understand why so many people complain. Yes the output file is pretty small for an 8MP resolution photo because its been compressed to ****, but I don't really notice this, even when plugging into my 42" TV it still looks great (until you start to zoom in) Take a range of shots, when shooting in darkness you will find a decent amount of noise but this is just the Exmor-r working wonders - without it, you'd find you'd just have a very dark picture.
Like many people already said, I'm totally happy with the picture's quality of my ARC, especially on 6MP 16:9. I love the colors, the tones, the clarity.. I'm sure that Sony (still SE for me ) will improve a little about JPEG compression in next ICS release..
iridaki said:
I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
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Exactly. Only my old Nokia N95 comes close, but that also was a little sony carl zeiss optic if i recall correctly.
Arc S camera is crappy.
I know it, because i used a Samsung mobile for a long time before Arc S, to take more than 4K pcs photos, so i can compare them.
It makes a lot of color noise under low light conditions of scenes.
Even a bit better when the light is enough, but then it makes white burned photos
The objective is distorted (fish eye aka barell), and also makes color noises in its corners.
The video record of this mobile is blurred, shaked, in low light condition makes color noises too.
You have to use Noiseware, or similar software to remove unwanted color noises from photos which are dotted by Xperia Arc /s
I don't know what is the meaning of the Exmore r, because i can't find a reason, maybe it' s only a commercial thingy
Sorry for my bad english.
Do you think the HDR feature enhances pictures?
Ps camera is superb
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It enhances colours i think, like comparing dvd to HD. I love it
heard in software version 29 they are improving the feature too should look even better
submission7 said:
Do you think the HDR feature enhances pictures?
Ps camera is superb
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Yes if you have stable hands. as it takes 3 shots (i think) at different exposures and merge them. to produce one detailed picture with sharper and more vibrant color at least depending on the shot.
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Do you think the HDR feature enhances pictures?
Ps camera is superb
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It works as long as you have steady hands. It takes one overexposed shot, one underexposed, one normal, and combines all the best detail and colors from each shot to get the best image.
So you can have photo of a bright foreground subject with good detail, and also a good detail/brightness background.
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It enhances colours i think, like comparing dvd to HD. I love it
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No, it enhances the dynamic range of the picture. No for fast moving objects though because it should work by taking several shots at different exposure settings and combines them to achieve that effect. Basically you have the white and near-white differentiation from the under exposed shot and the black and near-black from the overexposed shot. That way you have neither overblown ares in your picture (white spots) nor dark areas (black spots).
Compared to our eyes camera sensors have relatively small dynamic range so HDR helps there but sometimes it makes the shot unrealistic (which might be the desired effect)
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submission7 said:
Do you think the HDR feature enhances pictures?
Ps camera is superb
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The camera APP is pretty terrible. I LOVE the UI though, but it compresses images waaay too much. I use a third party app to bypass the compression, and the quality is so much better
Sybregunne said:
Yes if you have stable hands.
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this also depends on the surroundings and the light situation.
just an example - HDR with stock camera and no tripod, just held the One X in my hands. (dropbox link)
@submission7
so yes, in some situations, HDR can produce a better outcome/photo.
just try it out and you'll find for yourself when/where it works best
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The camera APP is pretty terrible. I LOVE the UI though, but it compresses images waaay too much. I use a third party app to bypass the compression, and the quality is so much better
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Which third party app bypasses the compression? I would love to get it
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ASavva said:
Which third party app bypasses the compression? I would love to get it
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I heard camera FX does but not sure.
I tried the HDR yest during sunset, my wife had the sun behind her and seriously amazing stuff all you have to do is a hold still for a bit, i took like 10 photos all without any ghosting, its not like Desire HD where you had to really hold still for a normal photo lol!
amazed to say the least, sorry its photos of my girl so i can't share them
Camera360 also bypasses the compression.
But with the last update (1.29) the stock camera app improved as well...
A really nice, upcoming app is Camera FV-5. The developer already announced many improvements/bugfixes for HTC One X.
stetre76 said:
Camera360 also bypasses the compression.
But with the last update (1.29) the stock camera app improved as well...
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Hi, i'd like to know how did it improve, is the image compression better? or anything else ?
compared to the previous firmware versions (1.26 & 1.28) the compression isn't that strong any more.
compared to other camera apps however, it's still strong(er), but personally I can live with that.
hamdir said:
I tried the HDR yest during sunset, my wife had the sun behind her and seriously amazing stuff all you have to do is a hold still for a bit, i took like 10 photos all without any ghosting, its not like Desire HD where you had to really hold still for a normal photo lol!
amazed to say the least, sorry its photos of my girl so i can't share them
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HDR has nothing to do with ghosting though It just takes properly exposed, overexposed and underexposed shots of the same thing and merges all three.
ASavva said:
Which third party app bypasses the compression? I would love to get it
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Like the previous reply, Camera360 bypasses it, but still uses the sensor so the images are much better.
thanks for all your replies...will try it out...
PS do other phones have this capability ie not the one series or is it fairly unique to us like the multi snapper trigger happy mode
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HDR has nothing to do with ghosting though It just takes properly exposed, overexposed and underexposed shots of the same thing and merges all three...
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The phone takes three images so if you move the camera after pressing the shutter you will see ghosting. The One X shutter lag is shorter then the DHD that's why it's easier to take HDR with the One X.
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HDR has nothing to do with ghosting though It just takes properly exposed, overexposed and underexposed shots of the same thing and merges all three..
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yes it does, if you or your subject move you get difference in the three images and hence some ghosting
the fast shutter speed in the One X is helping immensely in this regards
hamdir said:
yes it does, if you or your subject move you get difference in the three images and hence some ghosting
the fast shutter speed in the One X is helping immensely in this regards
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True in a way, but the essence of a HDR image is one being overexposed, hence a slower shutter (or depending, a software EV+ and keeping the same shutter speed).
My HOX camera works fine in day light but in low light it produces.crappy pics
P.S. my phone is free of all the issues mentioned in the forum
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sun216 said:
My HOX camera works fine in day light but in low light it produces.crappy pics
P.S. my phone is free of all the issues mentioned in the forum
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That's because it's a phone with a tiny little sensor. What did you expect? Although most compact digicams aren't much better.
Try a Nokia 808 Pureview... That's about the only way you'll get markedly better low light performance in a phone (because it has a bigger sensor than pretty much every compact camera )
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P.S. my phone is free of all the issues mentioned in the forum
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Haha, don't say twice.. I was thinking the same but after today..
My HOX makes really crappy low light photos too. Both my DHD and Sensation camera take better low light pics, main difference is that the HOX-es shutter speed is much quicker. HTC raised HOX camera capabilities sky hi, but It's nothing better in pics quality then older HTC models.
Well, that's my opinion...
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Don't think that you can get a good night shots from any mobile until now.
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Have you tried the low light mode? Not tried it myself but the name suggests it may be handy in these situations.
I have a 500 pound camera with a 200 lense on it, and it won't take good pictures without light, all good picture need light.
This is a phone with a basic camera
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Mine also took a photo with one bed side lamp on at night and flash and got a grainy noisey image, my sgs2 took better images at night with flash
HTC probably made it a higher priority to have low blur, which means faster shutter speeds, which means that at night the phone will either amp up the ISO to the max (NOISE) or use LED flash.
I know About.sensor
But the problem is in low light the pic don't seems 8 mp more like VGA camera
My last phone was N8 (big snsr..) didn't expected this much diff
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I know that well but photo seems like vga
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I know About.sensor
But the problem is in low light the pic don't seems 8 mp more like VGA camera
My last phone was N8 (big snsr..) didn't expected this much diff
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I'm sorry but I don't understand your second sentence. You mean it doesn't look like a 8mp image? Megapixel is just a resolution, the number of pixels in an image and no way an indicator of any sort of quality.
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I'm sorry but I don't understand your second sentence. You mean it doesn't look like a 8mp image? Megapixel is just a resolution, the number of pixels in an image and no way an indicator of any sort of quality.
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What I mean is the greater the mp the greater the image for bigger screen ... But this images if u zoom in .--- end of story
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Hi, I bought a Galaxy Nexus on august and it is a really good device, the only thing that I dont like about it is the quality of the pictures of its camera, is it just me or this device has a relly crappy camera?
Have any of you tried to improve its quality using the GNtoolkit or any other method?
If so, please advice...
Thank you very much
Lol the toolkit? really?
The camera performs poorly in low light, and nothing is really going to fix that except... more light. In well lit and composed pictures, the camera has the capability to produce good pictures. They turn out pretty well. This camera isn't the best, but isn't nearly as bad as people like to think. Just check out some of the pictures in the General section. Lots of great stuff in there. It's not impossible to take good pictures with the GNex.
Most issues with the camera can be attributed to the photographer, not the device. There are many camera apps that can help you achieve different affects with your camera (like HDR, scene modes and editing), and there are even some in the stock Gallery.
Don't use the 'zoom'
Beamed from my Grouper.
The best apps that I think produce good quality pics with the Gnex camera are Vignette and HDR Camera+. Honestly I don't ever use the stock camera because I feel they produce the worst pics.
I mentioned the toolkit because I saw an option there, so... Im pretty ****ed right? LOL
donchele said:
Hi, I bought a Galaxy Nexus on august and it is a really good device, the only thing that I dont like about it is the quality of the pictures of its camera, is it just me or this device has a relly crappy camera?
Have any of you tried to improve its quality using the GNtoolkit or any other method?
If so, please advice...
Thank you very much
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the camera is awesome. you probably need to learn how to use it correctly.
I think it is pretty decent. Again I don't compare pics with other phone because missing a few pixels isn't going to make huge difference.
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Beats, and I mean beats the **** out of my Thunderbolt's 8MP camera. Low light, lots of light, magic, doesn't matter, Nexus wins every time.
Magic doesn't exist, just making my sanity clear.
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I have found that the gnexus camera out performs my HTC sensation , lumia 800 iPhone 4s when it comes to low light pictures. They come out a lot less blurred and precise than the other phones. Day photos are perfectly good for a mobile phone. Want an amazing camera buy a SLR , Facebook photos it does just fine
J
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