[Q] smelkusMOD nand backup - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I flashed the smelkusMOD Recovery instead of Clockwork as everyone seems to adamantly suggest and had a quick question about the backup. It gives me a list of things to backup. By default the first 4 are selected and the rest aren't. Clockwork just ran a backup. I want any restore to basically bring my phone back to a point in time restore with all my apps/data/settings/etc. Am I fine leaving the defaults or should I select more options?

If ur SD card is partitioned for running a2sd u are going to want to select SD ext as well. Its generally a good idea to keep a backup of ur wimax but not necessary.
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Cool. I will go ahead and add those just to be safe. Thanks.

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[Q] How to Nandroid Backup

Running MIUI and want to check out CM7, I've never done a Nandroid backup ever, so what should I backup when it prompts me because I tried but wasn't sure what to select
Boot system data Wimax also backup up sdext ONLY IF YOUR PARTITIONED if your not just those four I listed
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Boot system data Wimax also backup up sdext ONLY IF YOUR PARTITIONED if your not just those four I listed
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thank you sir!
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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thank you as well
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thank you as well
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All in a days work, good citizen.
teh roxxorz said:
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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So is this what I would do still if I was running a sense ROM with dark tremor a2sd? And just wipe the ext when I flash a new ROM ?
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So is this what I would do still if I was running a sense ROM with dark tremor a2sd? And just wipe the ext when I flash a new ROM ?
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Correct, do the wipes I listed previously, and the sd ext [if you're partitioned].
No intentions for redundancy, but just adding my 2 pennies. I prefer Amon Ra Recovery and withing the Bootloader screen go down to recovery which is under fastboot, then you should be directed to the Recovery menu, there you should see an option labeled Backup/Restore, within this folder should be an option labeled nandroid backup. Cheers to your successful backup.
Okay, thank you good sir
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Personally, I backup everything except cache. I want the restore, when I need it, to be complete, and it's worked out that way every time.
I also store all my Nandroid backups to the PC, just in case sumthin' happens to the sdcard

[Q] Having problems with Nandroid restore

Alright guys, this thing is driving me nuts. I've been using Fresh EVO 4.3.3 for a while now and I've been backing up and restoring since I first got my EVO so I've done this countless times. For whatever reason, as of late, when I restore a Nandroid backup using Amon RA 2.3 the recovery completes, I reboot back into the ROM and I'm missing all sorts of elements. I'm in the habit of creating a baseline Nandroid of my freshly installed rom and a few updates so i don't have to update the living hell out of all my apps. Lately, however, I get back into the ROM after Nandroid and I'm missing apps namely the Market app as well as titanium backup and a few other no name apps.
It wouldn't be a big deal except that well I have to run around installing random APK's to get a complete recovery state essentially putting myself back to a baseline image. I have to reinstall the vending.apk back into the system/app folder then it FC's a bunch of times before it behaves, then I have to do a full titanium backup cause all my other apps are still missing.
I've done a complete RUU back to 4.54, wiped all caches, reinstalled amon ra, reinstall fresh from base, can't quite figure this one out. I usually restore any nandroid backups I make right after backing one up to ensure the backup is good. The FIRST backup I restore works like a charm....after that it never restores correctly. I backup the default options plus wimax and have even added the android secure data to see if that fixes it, but no go. Any one have any ideas?
Do you back up sd-ext?
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I normally don't, because I normally don't move any apps 2 SD till AFTER I come back from a recovery. So essentially everything is ON the phone, then I nandroid backup...then when I recover it...I move everything that can be put on the SD card over there to free up space.
I thought of this, but then realized that the MARKET can't be put on the SD card...so why would IT not be there?
But more and more time have it baked in. Is your card partitioned, if so you rom might utilize the ext.
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You know, now that you mention it I did partition my SD card using hipkats guide for synergy roms. I wonder if that has something to do with it. So what do you recommend? for me to backup my SD-EXT along with the defaults and wimax for my nandroid backups?
Yes that should take care of it.
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right on, I'll give that a shot right now. I was bored waiting for responses earlier so I'm going through a complete restore, wipe, and recover of all data then I'll give what you mentioned a shot. Thanks headed your way! I appreciate it!
Just to maintain some level of closure here...I went ahead and included the sd-ext in my nandroid backup on Amon-Ra...and it appears to be back to normal. haha never thought of that but thanks again for the help ThickLizard...I appreciate it!

Can't restore nandroid backup amon RA 2.3

As the title says I can't restore from backups I just made. I get an oops.....something went wrong. Please check recovery.log, but when I try to move rrecovery.log to sd it gets an error too.
It's not renamed anything with spaces or weird characters.
I flashed cwm and uses that to restore the nandroid I made, but it didn't restore properly and half the apps didn't restore. This has been an issue for a very long time. Accross 2 ssd cards.
Any help is appreciated.
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When you backed up and restored did you check the sd ext option. If your rom is utilizing a2sd that's where your apps would be if you are partitioned.
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When you backed up and restored did you check the sd ext option. If your rom is utilizing a2sd that's where your apps would be if you are partitioned.
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No, I didn't check that. I'm not running a2sd right now and don't have a partition for it currently
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If you aren't using sd-ext, are having this problem with two different SD cards and can't copy the recover.log to your SD card, three things come to mind that could be the problem:
1) Your amon-ra recovery is corrupt somehow and you need to reflash Amon-ra
2) The SD you used when you made the backups was bad or somehow when you made the backups they got corrupted for some reason.
3) The flash memory on your phone (the internal storage) is somehow going/gone and can no longer be read/written correctly. (This wouldn't explain why you can't copy the log file, though).
The first would be relatively easy to check, but if you made the nandroids with a corrupt version of Amon-ra they still might not restore right even if you reflash Amon-ra.
For checking number 2 you could go into your Nandroid directory and try manually extracting the files to see if they are corrupt or not.
If it is the third problem, I guess you would need to RMA/exchange your phone-- not sure how you would actually check for this problem but I guess if you can flash a clean/new ROM and it works fine it probably isn't this.
Good luck!
You can also try flashing the Amon RA Style recovery from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654
Amon Ra Style Recovery for Supersonic
As long as there isn't a problem with the actual nandroid, this recovery restores both CWM and Amon RA.
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You can also try flashing the Amon RA Style recovery from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654
Amon Ra Style Recovery for Supersonic
As long as there isn't a problem with the actual nandroid, this recovery restores both CWM and Amon RA.
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getting this same problem too. issue occurred after achieving s-ff for rezound fyi using the mething that just came out. nothing i done seems to resolve this issue. cant nand back up, move logs, etc....
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getting this same problem too. issue occurred after achieving s-ff for rezound fyi using the mething that just came out. nothing i done seems to resolve this issue. cant nand back up, move logs, etc....
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So is this an issue with the Rezound or the Evo?
If it's with the Rezound then there may be some people with that phone that know more than we know, and therefore may be able to help. If it's with the Evo, then I am not quite sure why this information is relevant.

nandroid

ok i have evo 4g every time i do a nandroid i can never go back to it i try to restore nandroid and it just sits in the white screen with htc evo 4g ive tried over and over again to no success.the nandroids are there on sd card but just cant seem to restore. amon ra recovery v2.3 rooted with revolutionary hboot is 6.16 something please someone help-
Are you sure they're not corrupted? You had enough space to create the backup? Also no use of invalid characters, such as spaces or asterisks?
Im pretty sure i did have space im thinking its my sd card i swapped it out for another one ima have to root my phone again.
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Swapping out the sd card does not mean you have to re-root. If anything, copy your sd card contents to a pc > format the sd card > copy the contents back; its common that the sd card can become corrupt. In addition, you can reflash your recovery.
Are you renaming the back ups? If so then this is your problem.
You can rename them as long as the original file name is intact and there are no spaces by placing your unique identifier at the end of the original file name.
No i dont change the name of them.
And the only reason i unroot and root again is because that what i have to do i put like stock and re root cuz if i dont do that and flash another from from usb in recovery it will flash but it loads everything from the previous rom there no other way i can think of doing.
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No i dont change the name of them.
And the only reason i unroot and root again is because that what i have to do i put like stock and re root cuz if i dont do that and flash another from from usb in recovery it will flash but it loads everything from the previous rom there no other way i can think of doing.
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Are you partitioned? If so this is how you flash a rom wipe everything except sdcard make sure you wipe sd-ext. When you want to make a backup of that rom make sure you select System,boot,data,WiMAX,and sd ext. Then to flash New rom you wipe everything except sdcard wipe sd ext also. If your not wiping sdext that's causing the nandroid not to boot. If your talking about when you first flash a rom and all your apps and wallpaper from the previous rom ate still there that us because you setup your google account to backup and restore your settings when you sign in. To stop that flash a rom don't sign into anything go to settings>privacy and disable automatic restore and disable backup.
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Are you partitioned? If so this is how you flash a rom wipe everything except sdcard make sure you wipe sd-ext. When you want to make a backup of that rom make sure you select System,boot,data,WiMAX,and sd ext. Then to flash New rom you wipe everything except sdcard wipe sd ext also. If your not wiping sdext that's causing the nandroid not to boot. If your talking about when you first flash a rom and all your apps and wallpaper from the previous rom ate still there that us because you setup your google account to backup and restore your settings when you sign in. To stop that flash a rom don't sign into anything go to settings>privacy and disable automatic restore and disable backup.
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Yes it is partitioned ok i got the flashing and backup part ima save this. When i flash a rom i let it sit for a while and the part u say go to setting privacy is that on phone or gmail account?
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Yes it is partitioned ok i got the flashing and backup part ima save this. When i flash a rom i let it sit for a while and the part u say go to setting privacy is that on phone or gmail account?
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That is on the phone. If its a sense 1.0 rom you shouldn't have to worry about that but everything else you have to do that
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That is on the phone. If its a sense 1.0 rom you shouldn't have to worry about that but everything else you have to do that
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Ok when i flash a rom ill make sure i check that. Thanku for your much appreciated help. If anything goes wrong is it cool if i pm u or something
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[TUT] What Is Nandroid And How To Use It [Complete Guide] [VeNuM]

If you are new to Android, you probably have seen the term Nandroid used. If you are rooting your phone for the first time, or even an old crusty flashaholic, a Nandroid backup could be the difference between saving your phone or have having a $500 paper weight.
What IS a Nandroid? It is a full backup of the partitions on your device’s NAND flash (NAND actually stands for NOT AND,which in simple terms means an electronic gate). Basically a backup of your phones hard drive if you will... The Nandroid backup is a snapshot of your device (it means everything on your phone – your apps, data, your current ROM and even the kernel is backed up) at the time you do the back up. If you restore the back up, it changes your phone BACK to that state. You will need clockworkmod (CWM). So make sure prior to this you have CWM on your device.
Your SD Card data is not backed up in the process. Although the Nandroid backup itself is created on your SD card. Make sure you have enough space on your SD card to make a COMPLETE copy of your phone. It is highly recommended that once you have done a backup, you manually copy it to your computer in case your sd card is wiped or corrupted..
Pre-requisites:
1. Rooted Device:
You need a rooted android device.
2. Custom Recovery
While the OS is running you cannot do a backup. The boot loader in the recovery enables you to take a backup of the OS while it’s not running.
ClockworkMod (CWM) recovery is the example used in this tutorial.
Steps to Make a Nandroid Backup via CWM:
Backup and Restore via CWM:
1.Boot into Recovery.
2. Select ‘Backup and Restore’ from the recovery screen.
Once you are in recovery, scroll down to the option ‘Backup and Recovery’ and select it. You can scroll up/down through the menu using the volume buttons and select options using the power button.
3. Start the backup.
Once you are on the Nandroid screen, select ‘Backup’ to start the backup process. You have the option to restore backup on the same screen.
The backup process may take a while. Be PATIENT.
4. Transfer the backup to your computer (optional but recommended).
Once you reboot, you can see the backup in the ‘clockworkmod/backup/timestamp’ (or similar file) directory on your SD card.
Move, copy, or paste this folder on your PC safely.
It’s THAT simple…
Restore from a Nandroid Backup via CWM:
1. Boot your device into CWM and navigate to the Nandroid screen.
2. Choose ‘Restore’ and begin the process.
If you select ‘Advanced Restore’option, you may select which part of the backup to restore – i. e. the boot,system, data or cache. Or choose the whole backup.
3. Reboot your device. Your system is now restored and is exactly the same as the time when the backup was taken.
Final Thoughts:
If you are planning on rooting your phone or even a hard core flashaholic it is essential you use this painless and easy tool to save you when you need it. As noted above you can even revert back to just the kernel, data or whatever that could become corrupt or just plain messed up in the future. I hope this helps you and happy flashing!! - VeNuM
Once again another well written tutorial VeNuM. Going to add this to my list of articles to point people to. Just hope the ones who really need it will actually look here first. Thanks again.
Nice guide VeNuM, will definetly help with the noobs
VeNuM,
This is an awesome Tutorial - thanks for taking the time to write it.
Hi, thanks for a nice simple guide.
After flashing speedmod k3-7 on Criskelo v8 I have lost root.
I would like to restore to before I flashed speedmod to regain root.
Is it possible to restore a nandroid if I don't have full root?
What part should I restore to regain root?
Or do you know a Better way to regain root?
I'm still a noob, so I really appreciate all info I get. Don't want to mess this up.
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Is CWM required?
Or can we do this in stock recovery?
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mcadamry said:
Is CWM required?
Or can we do this in stock recovery?
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Venum used CWM as an example, but no, stock recovery wont work. Youll need a custom.
The op prerequisites are pretty clear. ^^^^ Look up at the op..
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Good detail in this. Thanks!
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So what if I have expensive taste on paper weights? You got a problem?
Great tutorial, I know how to use it already but this should defiantely encourage more people to use nandroid making you the saviour of a lot of money.
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As always, great tutorial. I've used it to make a backup, but thankfully never had to use it to restore. This does lead me to 2 follow up questions/scenarios:
1. The backup is provided you can get into CWM. What if the phone can't get into CWM and is "hard bricked"? Then I assume in this case you can't do anything, correct? What if you have the backup file on your PC as you suggested. Could you somehow through ODIN restore the backup file without access to CWM (provided the phone is recognized in ODIN)? Or would you have to use ODIN to restore, get it up an running, then install CWM, then use your backup to revert back? I guess it all comes down to if it's recognized or not in ODIN, if it is, then you're not really hard bricked; but if it isn't, your SOL?
2. If the phone can boot up, and let's say is stuck in a boot loop where it doesn't get into the rom, but can get into CWM, but the backup is corrupted. How would you transfer from your PC the backup without being able to "mount" the SD card to transfer it. Obviously with an external SD it's no problem, but what if you only use the internal?
Thankfully, I've never experienced any of the issues above, I'm just curious on the answers. Thanks guys.
Possible Sticky? Great guide, thanks!
Great tut. Just one question... Does the nand backup also create a backup of the internal sdcard ie /sdcard
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Great tut. Just one question... Does the nand backup also create a backup of the internal sdcard ie /sdcard
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Wouldn't think that the backup calls to have the storage included. Not that I've seen anyway. That could lead to insufficient space for the backup itself. kernal, modem and ROM are what I believe to be in the backup.
Odd, cause I always pull everything out of storage and pictures to my laptop before doing a nand or anything. Just in case..
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pretty useful, thanks a bunch dude :good:
Awesome, thank you for the great explanation. What does it mean when people create a stock nandroid? Are they reverting back to a stock ROM for the backup?
banabry said:
Awesome, thank you for the great explanation. What does it mean when people create a stock nandroid? Are they reverting back to a stock ROM for the backup?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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As he said yes. You want a version that will bring you back to stock. So you can start over... Hopefully you will never need to use it...
Using agats kernal recovery it saves backups as .tar I'd there a way to fix? I've never used Odin so .tar are useless to me. I need the .zips
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What would happen if an insufficient space occurs?
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What would happen if an insufficient space occurs?
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Backup will fail and won't be a useable restore.
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