Hi all!
I wanna ask you something about gaming with this powerful smartphone: all of us are trying many roms, MIUI roms, CM9 roms, Sense-based Roms, Leedroid, ARHD etc with a lot of kernels, EP kernel, Franco Kernel, Bricked Kernel...
Which couple Rom- Kernel is the best for gaming? In all the Sense- based Rom I've seen that Shadowgun v1.1.2 [ tegra3 effects ] have some lags while firing at the enemies... Or fruit ninja lags when I put a finger for cutting fruits...
Can you answer this? Remember, battery life is important, but this Tegra3 is meant for gaming... Go to see what is coming: Renaissance Blood, an example.
Thanks in advance.
I am using ARHD 6.0.0 and with stock rom all games are running perfectly.
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BackStab
RealRacing 2
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ShadowGun THD
PinBall THD
Fruit Ninja THD
forumhookersdotcom said:
I am using ARHD 6.0.0 and with stock rom all games are running perfectly.
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BackStab
RealRacing 2
MC3
ShadowGun THD
PinBall THD
Fruit Ninja THD
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ARHD? What kernel are you using?
Don't think the rom makes a big difference. Saw an article yesterday on the xda portal where a person has a way to optimize the gpu. It was called v6 supercharger.
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timlambo said:
Don't think the rom makes a big difference. Saw an article yesterday on the xda portal where a person has a way to optimize the gpu. It was called v6 supercharger.
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V6 supercharger doesn't do anything to the graphics processing unit(gpu)... It is a script that changes the oom(out of memory) values and optimizes them for better e.g. Multitasking .. By the way editing oom values is useful only in low ram devices...
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BiggerBux said:
ARHD? What kernel are you using?
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ARHD with stock kernel.
forumhookersdotcom said:
ARHD with stock kernel.
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I will give it a try. Thanks for the answer guys.
Maybe the rom cannot make a lot of difference, but now I'm on Insertcoin and games are not flawless as I was thinking. Before that, I was on Miui release, and seems to be best for gaming. Must try all of that, now try ARHD. Thanks, forumhookerdotcom
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V6 supercharger doesn't do anything to the graphics processing unit(gpu)... It is a script that changes the oom(out of memory) values and optimizes them for better e.g. Multitasking .. By the way editing oom values is useful only in low ram devices...
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I know it doesn't do anything to the gpu, but it allows you to use a higher processing power. It sets the minimum values to 1ghz. Apparently some games which don't optimize tegra 3 is sometimes jumping around with the amount of cpu it uses. For example from 1.2ghz to 600mhz. That is apparently causing the game to lag/stutter. Some games only use 1 - 2 cores.
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I know it doesn't do anything to the gpu, but it allows you to use a higher processing power. It sets the minimum values to 1ghz. Apparently some games which don't optimize tegra 3 is sometimes jumping around with the amount of cpu it uses. For example from 1.2ghz to 600mhz. That is apparently causing the game to lag/stutter. Some games only use 1 - 2 cores.
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I think that there isn't this that cause lag on games... Maybe a ROM instead another can be more flawless in gaming... I don't know, tonight I will flash ARHD and give it a try!
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I think that there isn't this that cause lag on games... Maybe a ROM instead another can be more flawless in gaming... I don't know, tonight I will flash ARHD and give it a try!
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You're right they do make a difference. I think in General the small/lite roms do work best for games. Will also try ARHD sometime, waiting for latest Leedroid first. Want to upgrade and restore later to Lee's rom.
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timlambo said:
I know it doesn't do anything to the gpu, but it allows you to use a higher processing power. It sets the minimum values to 1ghz. Apparently some games which don't optimize tegra 3 is sometimes jumping around with the amount of cpu it uses. For example from 1.2ghz to 600mhz. That is apparently causing the game to lag/stutter. Some games only use 1 - 2 cores.
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The phone only uses one or two cores because it only needs one or two cores. What the problem probably is is the switching of CPU frequency slots
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forumhookersdotcom said:
I am using ARHD 6.0.0 and with stock rom all games are running perfectly.
9mm
BackStab
RealRacing 2
MC3
ShadowGun THD
PinBall THD
Fruit Ninja THD
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Sorry mate, but with ARHD just flashed with his stock boot.img my Shadowgun THD doesn't work as well... Lags everywhere! Do you have done something else in this rom? A mode, many tricks I don't know... ?!
im also running ARHD 6.0 with Franco r6 Kernel, everything runs just smooth and fine.
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im also running ARHD 6.0 with Franco r6 Kernel, everything runs just smooth and fine.
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I don't know guys... This is a Sense-based Rom, really heavy rom, I don't know how can you play games flawlessly... I'm tried a short time to play to Shadowgun but it have too many lags... Fresh install... I don't know..
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am i the only one experiencing more lag and slowdowns in gaming after the update?
not sure if it's a kernel or rom problem.
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some stuff are messed up, maybe they are related due to the compatibility.
I get a bit of lag on fruit ninja paid
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No issues with Angry birds space or Wind up Knight, haven't tried any others yet.
no lag here, what games? its most likely app compatibility.
I don't really play much and OPs claim is very vague but I quickly installed Temple Run and it runs flawless. Also the not very demanding games like Cut the Rope and Where is my water run without problems so far. I recently bought Shadowgun for my Tablet. Maybe I'll try that later but I have no comparison to 4.0.2/3 with this game.
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I don't really play much and OPs claim is very vague but I quickly installed Temple Run and it runs flawless. Also the not very demanding games like Cut the Rope and Where is my water run without problems so far. I recently bought Shadowgun for my Tablet. Maybe I'll try that later but I have no comparison to 4.0.2/3 with this game.
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I used to play temple run on my 4.0.3 very smoothly without any lag. But after upgrading to 4.0.4 bugless beast it has become very choppy and almost unplayable when there are many coins.
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actually. what kernel is OP using? are you using a OC'D GPU kernel? switch back to a kernel with stock GPU (384mhz)
i have NO lag on temple run.
Stock GPU is 307mhz.
That said, there is no lag here either.
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actually. what kernel is OP using? are you using a OC'D GPU kernel? switch back to a kernel with stock GPU (384mhz)
i have NO lag on temple run.
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I am using stock kernel. It lags when running over the red coins or using power ups at high speed. What CPU governor are u using?
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salivaman said:
I am using stock kernel. It lags when running over the red coins or using power ups at high speed. What CPU governor are u using?
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franco r116.
~700 - 1200 ondemand
Hi, what u guys (and ladies) think about performance of this phone, I'm not happy at all... I buy hi-end phone with quad core, but for example GTA III seems to be lagging, this game was much more smooth on my Sensation with OC to 1,7. NOVA 3, also is laggy. I'm using viper 1.01 rom with faux kernel, with stock kernel was the same. How are u feelings about this?
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Hi, what u guys (and ladies) think about performance of this phone, I'm not happy at all... I buy hi-end phone with quad core, but for example GTA III seems to be lagging, this game was much more smooth on my Sensation with OC to 1,7. NOVA 3, also is laggy. I'm using viper 1.01 rom with faux kernel, with stock kernel was the same. How are u feelings about this?
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Nova is not lagging for me at all. Try the latest kernel of faux(004b6), also use hamdir's gaming guide. About those games being smoother on the sensation, that's sort of to be expected. Those games can't do anything with the tegra 3 because it's not optimized. The developers, especially gameloft, does not care for tegra. They depend on raw power, where as tegra depends on optimization. I'm also using faux kernel with viperrom. Try hamdir's gaming guide, and remember the interactive governor is broken on the latest faux kernel so you should use ondemand.
I think it would've also been more appropriate to post this in the before mentioned gaming thread. You're answer would've been very quickly answered.
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Nova is not lagging for me at all. Try the latest kernel of faux(004b6), also use hamdir's gaming guide. About those games being smoother on the sensation, that's sort of to be expected. Those games can't do anything with the tegra 3 because it's not optimized. The developers, especially gameloft, does not care for tegra. They depend on raw power, where as tegra depends on optimization. I'm also using faux kernel with viperrom. Try hamdir's gaming guide, and remember the interactive governor is broken on the latest faux kernel so you should use ondemand.
I think it would've also been more appropriate to post this in the before mentioned gaming thread. You're answer would've been very quickly answered.
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Where is this guide? I only see 004b5 version
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391
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nyorbee said:
Where is this guide?
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Please?
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jameslfc5 said:
Please?
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The post is just above your post with that link.
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I was disappointed with the performance with the One X when I first got it as well. It was getting ****e Quadrant scores. Laggy interface and crap game performance.
I slapped on InsertCoin, flashed Franco's latest kernel, ran V6 supercharger and followed hamdir's gaming guide and it fixed everything. I now get about 800 more points in Quadrant, and games run perfectly smooth.
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The post is just above your post with that link.
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Sorry mate I was trying to show the OP that it isn't hard to say please.
Thanks for the link tho
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Sorry mate I was trying to show the OP that it isn't hard to say please.
Thanks for the link tho
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Lol, thought it was the same person, didn't read carefully.
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Harrysoon said:
I was disappointed with the performance with the One X when I first got it as well. It was getting ****e Quadrant scores. Laggy interface and crap game performance.
I slapped on InsertCoin, flashed Franco's latest kernel, ran V6 supercharger and followed hamdir's gaming guide and it fixed everything. I now get about 800 more points in Quadrant, and games run perfectly smooth.
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But it sucks, that we have to read 100 articles, perform some magic, to be able to play hd games when buing quad core phone, wich isn't cheap... I bet on SG III everything working fine
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But it sucks, that we have to read 100 articles, perform some magic, to be able to play hd games when buing quad core phone, wich isn't cheap... I bet on SG III everything working fine
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I know, we don't have to do so much just to play games decently. As far as I know, everything is not so smooth sailing for the s3.
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But it sucks, that we have to read 100 articles, perform some magic, to be able to play hd games when buing quad core phone, wich isn't cheap...
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It really isn't the phone's fault. Those games are just not optimized for T3.
I bet on SG III everything working fine
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And I bet that there are games that don't work well on SIII.
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But it sucks, that we have to read 100 articles, perform some magic, to be able to play hd games when buing quad core phone, wich isn't cheap... I bet on SG III everything working fine
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this is the problem with u people u buy a device n have the burning sensation that the alternative does better
let me tell u this every trick in the gaming guide I actually learned from the sgs2 forums
I guess they really needed all those governor tweaks too, let me tell u something else
don't ever expect full performance out of ur mashine when all default android CPU governors come so heavily tweaked to save battery
the on-demand default only calls full speed at 90% load, the interactive default only calls it at 97% load that's really conservative, the situation is the same on every other device
I remember I had the same gov issue with my sensation stock (In ARHD mike had them optimized) also had the issue with my DHD
android = non game friendly governors that needs to be tweaked
and finally the Asus prime comes with a performance profiles built-in and this app all it does is load the very same optimized values in my guide and scripts
u don't need to read anything just use my scripts, also the latest ARHD has the on demand optimized out of box if u can't bother
oh and nova 3 as well as most GL games runs smooth as butter on sgs3 because GL optimizes for Mali devices and neglect Tegra, maybe because of some unannounced contract
so go get it be happy
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Hi, what u guys (and ladies) think about performance of this phone, I'm not happy at all... I buy hi-end phone with quad core, but for example GTA III seems to be lagging, this game was much more smooth on my Sensation with OC to 1,7. NOVA 3, also is laggy. I'm using viper 1.01 rom with faux kernel, with stock kernel was the same. How are u feelings about this?
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The only real issue I have found is that it tends to overheat when playing games for long periods of time..
Which ROM you are using??....
Is it good for games performance like Modern Combat 4 or Need for Speed?
For gaming always use CM10 or PA straightaway!plus overclock the kernel to about 1.5ghz and see the smoothness!in stock, eternity warriors was laggy,used to lag every time the creatures appeared,at 1.5ghz hellboy and PA,that was as smooth as butter
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mihirengg19 said:
For gaming always use CM10 or PA straightaway!plus overclock the kernel to about 1.5ghz and see the smoothness!in stock, eternity warriors was laggy,used to lag every time the creatures appeared,at 1.5ghz hellboy and PA,that was as smooth as butter
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Thanks a lot man, thanks for the tip
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Which ROM you are using??....
Is it good for games performance like Modern Combat 4 or Need for Speed?
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All that mostly depends on the kernel too
For gaming sick kernel
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mihirengg19 said:
For gaming always use CM10 or PA straightaway!plus overclock the kernel to about 1.5ghz and see the smoothness!in stock, eternity warriors was laggy,used to lag every time the creatures appeared,at 1.5ghz hellboy and PA,that was as smooth as butter
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Not ALWAYS go for CM10.
I use stock with no overclock, and I don't lag what so ever.
You overclocked for smoothness.
There is no gaming Rom, but SuperSickKernel is the fastest out right now. The ICS kernels aren't updated
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since there is a general opinion that stock is laggy, and it is for most people,hence suggested a JB rom as they are smooth even without OCing.currently yes sick is suggested as its good for gaming.if ur phone is not lagging on stock without overclocking,you are damn lucky
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since there is a general opinion that stock is laggy, and it is for most people,hence suggested a JB rom as they are smooth even without OCing.currently yes sick is suggested as its good for gaming.if ur phone is not lagging on stock without overclocking,you are damn lucky
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Very very lucky
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Same as you I have came here for a lag free phone and for gaming also but hov is not good with games at all these ROMs n kernel might make your phone a rocking hell but not fir gaming even subway surfer not running smoothly. On my device PA 2.99 hellboy kernel
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Now I'm trying slim Rom...it feels good, modern combat 4 runs good restarting the phone(for few apps running), and need for speed runs good without restarting...also I'm on Hellboy kernel
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So I was just wondering why dead trigger can run so well at such high graphics and such high resouktion textures, but modern combat 4 and other Gameloft games run with super low graphics and crappy textures but lag like hell. I know that dead trigger is optimized, but I really want a good reason for this, like does tegra 3 interpret Gameloft games badly? Is the GPU just really super weak? And why do older GPU like the gs2 Mali and the HTC sensation run this game better than our one x? this has been bugging me for so long, is the shader cores of our device not fit for gamloft games? Please answer, I will love you forever <3
The thing is that dead trigger is optimized for tegra 3 device since modern combat 4 no! You dont need more explanation, these is all!!
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The thing is that dead trigger is optimized for tegra 3 device since modern combat 4 no! You dont need more explanation, these is all!!
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Oh OK, that answers part of it, but why do Gameloft games run better on older devices like galaxy s2 when our GPU is twice as fast and has 3times as many GPU cores?
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Oh OK, that answers part of it, but why do Gameloft games run better on older devices like galaxy s2 when our GPU is twice as fast and has 3times as many GPU cores?
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Because our GPU are tegra 3 and the other ones are snapdragron, ... And gameloft optimized games foe it and they have get out our tegra 3 device because we need a lot of optimization!! Anyways at these moment the games wich i have from gameloft in my HOX they are working smooth! You can visit here in these forum some thread where you can improve gameloft games for our HOX!!
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Because our GPU are tegra 3 and the other ones are snapdragron, ... And gameloft optimized games foe it and they have get out our tegra 3 device because we need a lot of optimization!! Anyways at these moment the games wich i have from gameloft in my HOX they are working smooth! You can visit here in these forum some thread where you can improve gameloft games for our HOX!!
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thank so much big help! :')
yeah like jarein said...gamelof don't care about tegra therefore it's always running so sh*tty ....no optimizing...instead of that only lower the graphics etc ...they are just porting from iOS the game and make avaiable for tegra phones WITHOUT optimizing...really bad -.-
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yeah like jarein said...gamelof don't care about tegra therefore it's always running so sh*tty ....no optimizing...instead of that only lower the graphics etc ...they are just porting from iOS the game and make avaiable for tegra phones WITHOUT optimizing...really bad -.-
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thanks for all this info, a really big help, put my mind at ease
Is there ANY WAY that we can speed up gaming performance on cm 10.1 roms?
Have you overclocked? Try Turbo boost mod as well, and greenify all the background apps so you have nothing running when you're running the game.
Well overclocking and there are many scripts also
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Well overclocking and there are many scripts also
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I can overclock up to 1.7ghz stable so try that but just be warned your phone might get a little warm so use a case to protect your hands. The phone should be okay; chips are designed to operate at high temperatures - think triple digit Fahrenheit degrees - which are more than what you hands can bear for gaming (especially for extended periods).
Overclock it to 1.5 and with performance governor ... Will have a pleasant gaming experience
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you should be able to get good game performance without extreme over clocking by making sure background apps are terminated while playing. but will depend on games requirements of course.