Is it possible to unlock the bootloader/root the GN on the stock rom, I know this can be done, however, will it cause any problems without a custom rom?
Yes it is possible. No it will not cause problems.
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It will wipe your phone.
Sdcard partition too.
It'll wipe your phone, and if you change anything more than just rooting, you can't automatically update with an OTA.
nodstuff said:
It will wipe your phone.
Sdcard partition too.
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So I'll need to reflash the stock rom? From my understanding only user data gets deleted.
biscuitownz said:
So I'll need to reflash the stock rom? From my understanding only user data gets deleted.
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No your rom will be fine and yes its just user data, ALL user data.
Photos music etc!
But ya the rom will be fine!!
Since there's no 'SDCard' on the GNex, all your user data + pics + files + anything non-ROM will be wiped. What you will get after bootloader unlock will be the same as when you first turned your phone on.
Of course, this is IF you didn't buy your phone off Google Play. There are rumors that Google Play phones don't delete user data when bootloader unlocked.
Either way, here are the steps:
(1) use an exploit to root the phone without unlocking the bootloader
(2) use backup tools to save your apps + data + user data off the phone
(3) unlock the bootloader
(4) root the phone (again, with the same exploit in step 1)
(5) restore your phone from the backups you made in step 2
*NOTE* - you will still get OTA updates even after you've done the above steps, but you will probably lose root after each OTA update and will have to wait for a new exploit, if any, before you can root again.
biscuitownz said:
So I'll need to reflash the stock rom? From my understanding only user data gets deleted.
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martonikaj said:
It'll wipe your phone, and if you change anything more than just rooting, you can't automatically update with an OTA.
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Ahh..I see.
So once I'm rooted and do the OTA updates....does the root stay? Or I have to re-root it?
biscuitownz said:
Ahh..I see.
So once I'm rooted and do the OTA updates....does the root stay? Or I have to re-root it?
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You have to re-root or use OTA root keeper from the play store.
nodstuff said:
You have to re-root or use OTA root keeper from the play store.
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Oo ic. Thanks!
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I've read much about rooting, but it always seems to come in conjuncture with going into recovery mode and invoking factory settings..
Is there a way that I could just get root access without losing all of my data?
Thanks!
[GSM Galaxy Nexus, Android 4.0.2]
aaagever said:
I've read much about rooting, but it always seems to come in conjuncture with going into recovery mode and invoking factory settings..
Is there a way that I could just get root access without losing all of my data?
Thanks!
[GSM Galaxy Nexus, Android 4.0.2]
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Akaik the answer is no. Once you unlock the bootloader the device gets wiped.
Looks like CF-Root might be able to do the job..
aaagever said:
I've read much about rooting, but it always seems to come in conjuncture with going into recovery mode and invoking factory settings..
Is there a way that I could just get root access without losing all of my data?
Thanks!
[GSM Galaxy Nexus, Android 4.0.2]
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Alright! I love answering myself!
I just found out the CF-Root doesn't wipe the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396952
Because: "THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel. You need to have the relevant firmware already on your device. You do NOT need to wipe anything for this patch."
I'll try it an let you all know
aaagever said:
Alright! I love answering myself!
I just found out the CF-Root doesn't wipe the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396952
Because: "THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel. You need to have the relevant firmware already on your device. You do NOT need to wipe anything for this patch."
I'll try it an let you all know
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Nice work.
aaagever said:
Alright! I love answering myself!
I just found out the CF-Root doesn't wipe the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396952
Because: "THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel. You need to have the relevant firmware already on your device. You do NOT need to wipe anything for this patch."
I'll try it an let you all know
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Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, unlocking your bootloader does.
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joshnichols189 said:
Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, unlocking your bootloader does.
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That's what I thought.
joshnichols189 said:
Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, unlocking your bootloader does.
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So can I root without unlocking the bootloader?
aaagever said:
So can I root without unlocking the bootloader?
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I don't think so. MAybe Josh knows????
aaagever said:
So can I root without unlocking the bootloader?
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I doubt it: it's set up to do that because anyone can unlock it from fastboot and get full access to the phone, it's an attempt to prevent peeps getting access to the data on a stolen phone.
Im not rooted or unlocked, just stock from the play store. I was curious if there was a way to update before getting the OTA in a week or so? Also i want to do it without wiping my data
newtonfb said:
Im not rooted or unlocked, just stock from the play store. I was curious if there was a way to update before getting the OTA in a week or so? Also i want to do it without wiping my data
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Use search, this has been awnsered many times before in this forum
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You have to unlock your bootloader to flash Jelly Bean if you do not have Takju IMM30D, Takju IMM30D should get automatically the OTA update to JB.
If you're locked, you have to unlock (which wipes) to flash the JB image.
Just wait for the OTA.
Problem with "search for the answer" replies...
"search is temporarily disabled at this time"
I have been getting that message a lot lately... and it lasts for hours sometimes.
But the answer as others have said is... no, you must unlock and wipe.
Use a tool like Titanium backup, it makes wipes less of a pain. Do not backup system apps unless you are flashing a ROM that is similar, like updates to the ROM you are using, or one that has only minimal differences. For switching to JB... just back up user apps.
Marine6680 said:
Use a tool like Titanium backup, it makes wipes less of a pain. Do not backup system apps unless you are flashing a ROM that is similar, like updates to the ROM you are using, or one that has only minimal differences. For switching to JB... just back up user apps.
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Problem being he must have root to use TiBu, which requires he unlocks the bootloader .
to root without unlocking bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531865
I tested it once and it worked...
But he said its from the play store... meaning takju... from what I read the takju can unlock the bootloader and it will not wipe lucky
-Google
manumanfred said:
to root without unlocking bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531865
I tested it once and it worked...
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Only works on 4.0.2. No exploit for 4.0.4.
iGoogleNexus said:
But he said its from the play store... meaning takju... from what I read the takju can u lock the bootloader and it will not wipe lucky
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Only some are reporting this. Not everyone has this "bug".
martonikaj said:
Only works on 4.0.2. No exploit for 4.0.4.
Only some are reporting this. Not everyone has this "bug".
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D8< YOLO
-Google
Marine6680 said:
Problem with "search for the answer" replies...
"search is temporarily disabled at this time"
I have been getting that message a lot lately... and it lasts for hours sometimes
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Google search function doesn't normally fail. It can search xda too.
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martonikaj said:
Problem being he must have root to use TiBu, which requires he unlocks the bootloader .
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Advice for afterwards LOL
bk201doesntexist said:
Google search function doesn't normally fail. It can search xda too.
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True, but many just attempt XDA internal search.
martonikaj said:
Only some are reporting this. Not everyone has this "bug".
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Are you sure? I thought all play store devices did not wipe on unlock.
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martonikaj said:
Only some are reporting this. Not everyone has this "bug".
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of everyone who has posted about their play store gn wiping after unlock, it was just 1 user: DOHctor
the "some" in your statement would be better as "most" or even "almost all"
efrant said:
Are you sure? I thought all play store devices did not wipe on unlock.
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It seemed to me in those threads that there were still people getting wipes when unlocking. Hasn't really been brought up recently though. And we still don't really know why it doesn't wipe.
>=[ so I was right??
-Google
newtonfb said:
Im not rooted or unlocked, just stock from the play store. I was curious if there was a way to update before getting the OTA in a week or so? Also i want to do it without wiping my data
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I hate how u ppl ask these questions when it's pretty obvious this can't be don't without even being unlocked. Just get the Wug's toolkit and unlock and root. Done and forever free from the cage.
My last post may have been a little long winded, so I'll keep this one short. Has anyone here successfully used the ta backup and restore function in flashtool? And is it similar to a nandroid? I've searched everywhere for info on this, but it's a fairly new feature.
Thanks
What about an adB restore. Does that work like a nandroid?
split2th said:
What about an adB restore. Does that work like a nandroid?
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Any specific reason, you don't want to use the Backup & Restore feature of CWM Recovery?
ganeshbiyer said:
Any specific reason, you don't want to use the Backup & Restore feature of CWM Recovery?
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My bootloader is not unlockable. Hopefully it will be soon.
Edit: Reading the cwm thread, doesn't say anything about needing an unlocked bootloader. However there are a ton of people saying it is not very stable. In the mean time I'd like to modify the remove bloatware script on here in case i need to restore from ftf.
split2th said:
My bootloader is not unlockable. Hopefully it will be soon.
Edit: Reading the cwm thread, doesn't say anything about needing an unlocked bootloader. However there are a ton of people saying it is not very stable. In the mean time I'd like to modify the remove bloatware script on here in case i need to restore from ftf.
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Right ... rooting and flashing cwm does not require unlocked boot loader.
split2th said:
My bootloader is not unlockable. Hopefully it will be soon.
Edit: Reading the cwm thread, doesn't say anything about needing an unlocked bootloader. However there are a ton of people saying it is not very stable. In the mean time I'd like to modify the remove bloatware script on here in case i need to restore from ftf.
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CWM v4 is stable. I use it often with no problems.
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CWM v4 is stable. I use it often with no problems.
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Will a pc companion or flash tool ftf remove it? Cause then I have no reason not to test it.
Flashing stock ftf does I'm sure repair in companion will
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split2th said:
Will a pc companion or flash tool ftf remove it? Cause then I have no reason not to test it.
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Yes, flashing with a full wipe will return it to factory, CWM, initd and root will be gone.
jeriku said:
Yes, flashing with a full wipe will return it to factory, CWM, initd and root will be gone.
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Cool. Does it matter what rooting method I used?
split2th said:
Cool. Does it matter what rooting method I used?
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No. You'll just have to start from scratch if you end up doing that.
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No. You'll just have to start from scratch if you end up doing that.
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Thanks. Will give it a go.
CWM flashed. No issues. Clear cache, dalvik, fix permisions, did nandroid. All seem to work.
Thanks again.
split2th said:
CWM flashed. No issues. Clear cache, dalvik, fix permisions, did nandroid. All seem to work.
Thanks again.
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Excellent.
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
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If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
Custom recovery means you probably need to download the update file and apply it via the recovery instead of the automatic updater.
Changing or removing system files will almost definitely prevent updates being applied.
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gbroon said:
Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
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Actually I was surprised also, but SuperSU does prevent the OTA from completing successfully.
Read the referenced link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
Then I booted into 15Q. I lost root and TWRP. Flashed over TWRP through fastboot and rooted.
No issues.
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player911 said:
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
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Are you rooted using SuperSU, what version, and can I examine the zip file.
Thanks guys, actually I haven't rooted this device yet. Because I am still reading on stuff here on xda how to do it the right way and the links you posted
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sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?
I've been rooted since day one and gotten ota updates fine.
I use twrp and just make sure to flash supersu each time and call it good. Not a single problem on my end.
Even still if you bork it just flash factory image. It's pretty simple to get out of a pinch. But rooting and ota should work fine as long as you keep stock image. Just reflash supersu each time and you're good to go.
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geocine said:
hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
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fastboot boot twrp.img ?
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If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
sfhub said:
If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
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I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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geocine said:
I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
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Yes.
geocine said:
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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Thanks, I am currently backing up using adb., a non 100% backup is better than no backup at all. I hate redoing things.
sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
geocine said:
While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
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Yes, very simple, just type
fastboot oem lock
I would advise against doing so unless you plan to return the unit though, as if you ever need to do stuff to your system (even factory restore) then you'd need to unlock again, which would factory reset again.
sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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Here is a post from sfhub
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geocine said:
Here is a post from sfhub
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BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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The 1.55 update doesn't appear to want to install properly for me from Google Play. Is this an issue of having the OTA fix installed?
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
The Holocron said:
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
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No, there is nothing to uninstall. It is very clean.
sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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Is there anything I should do if I already have your fix installed?
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Is there some way to get root without unlocking the bootloader/wiping?
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery, to flash a custom recovery requires unlocked bootloader, so simple answer is no.
ghostofcain said:
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery, to flash a custom recovery requires unlocked bootloader, so simple answer is no.
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What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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Nothing, the only downside is the need to wipe data.
ghostofcain said:
Nothing, the only downside is the need to wipe data.
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I want sure about the fingerprint, etc. Thanks!
Damn, read a bit about what a bootloader is, its role is described in its name. Those fears are pointless.
Striatum_bdr said:
Damn, read a bit about what a bootloader is, its role is described in its name. Those fears are pointless.
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Not necessary, coming from other devices. I am no noob, I know what BL is, but some manufacturers tie certain features to locked BL. Sony for example cripples camera when you unlock.
kokesh said:
Not necessary, coming from other devices. I am no noob, I know what BL is, but some manufacturers tie certain features to locked BL. Sony for example cripples camera when you unlock.
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oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
bonham1988 said:
oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
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How does it work with OTA updates? Do those work with TWRP?
kokesh said:
How does it work with OTA updates? Do those work with TWRP?
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Otas dont work with twrp, oneplus releases a singed ota update on their forums usually within a week or two after the official ota. These singned updates can be flashed via twrp.
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The only downside to unlocking the BL on the OP3 is that you get a warning message (http://i.imgur.com/88NcI2K.jpg) when booting the phone. Lots of people hate it, i like it personally. It makes pressing button combos to get into fastboot/recovery obsolete.
bonham1988 said:
Otas dont work with twrp, oneplus releases a singed ota update on their forums usually within a week or two after the official ota. These singned updates can be flashed via twrp.
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And xda often have a TWRP flash able update before the OTA has reached everyone.
ghostofcain said:
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery ...
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If flashing is the only way to root the device, then yes.
And unfortunately flashing seems to be the only way.
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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Security. Your data are no more safe if your phone get stolen.
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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All SafetyNet apps stop working (Android Pay, PokeGO etc.)
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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I loose Android Pay. That's what i miss
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fp1707 said:
I loose Android Pay. That's what i miss
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Use Magisk and its all fine.
Puddi_Puddin said:
Use Magisk and its all fine.
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I tried setting that up but i keep failing. Not sure what i'm doing wrong
NVM i see what i got wrong, now it works just fine
bonham1988 said:
oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
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This is not correct on OxygenOS 4.0.2, it's possible to root without wipe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDRPWvYJYfU