I created a backup using CWM 3.1.0.1 (from rooted EC05). I then flashed one of the new roms, and today wanted to go back, so i booted into 3.1.0.1 and did the restore (from cw). Now the phone boots up to the Samsung screen and sits there. What am I doing wrong? Sorry if this has already been asked, I did a search but couldn't find this particular issue. Thanks for any and all help.
both backups were made using 3.1.0.1? and were both made in 3finger recovery? and when you restored you were in 3 finger recovery, not reboot recovery?
chris41g said:
both backups were made using 3.1.0.1? and were both made in 3finger recovery? and when you restored you were in 3 finger recovery, not reboot recovery?
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I only did 1 backup, not sure what you mean by 3 finger recovery? I booted in CWM (purple) and did the back-up. I then put on the "Bamboozle" rom (and yes, I wiped everything 3x like qb shows in the vid) then installed the rom. I ran it for the past week (loved the rom, but it was eating my battery really bad) so wanted to try a different rom. I thought the easiest way to start was to restore the backup I made, so I booted back into cwm and selected Backup/Restore, Restore, Yes and it ran and said it restored fine. I reboot, but all I get to now is the Samsung screen, no further.
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I only did 1 backup, not sure what you mean by 3 finger recovery? I booted in CWM (purple) and did the back-up. I then put on the "Bamboozle" rom (and yes, I wiped everything 3x like qb shows in the vid) then installed the rom. I ran it for the past week (loved the rom, but it was eating my battery really bad) so wanted to try a different rom. I thought the easiest way to start was to restore the backup I made, so I booted back into cwm and selected Backup/Restore, Restore, Yes and it ran and said it restored fine. I reboot, but all I get to now is the Samsung screen, no further.
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Let me just say, I think I f'ked my phone up. So I gave up trying to restore, just odin'd back to stock (ec 05). Which I then re-rooted and re-installed CWM 3.1.0.1 (I have titanium backups as well). However, now the phone runs really, really slow and when I try to restore apps from titanium it just sits there (in batch mode). Sorry, for being a noob; hey, if nothing else, maybe I'm making someone smile at my dumb a$$. But now, if I can be even more stupid, is there a way to just "reset" the phone, by that I mean put it back to a "true stock" form so I can start over? And then, can I just delete these backups, and roms from the sd card (just hookup to laptop and delete from the sd-card)? I think maybe it'd be easier to just start from scratch again...thanks for the help, I try to keep up with the forums, but so many posts....
What he means by 3 finger is the ONLY way to get into recovery for proper operation. With power off press and hold camera, volume down, and power. Holding all 3 until you see the recovery menu. If you use any other method such as ROM Manager or Quick Boot you will more than likely screw up your phone. Neither application is recommended for recovery operations.
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I believe clockwork does not backup the kernel. You may need to install a kernel.
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I created a backup using CWM 3.1.0.1 (from rooted EC05). I then flashed one of the new roms, and today wanted to go back, so i booted into 3.1.0.1 and did the restore (from cw). Now the phone boots up to the Samsung screen and sits there. What am I doing wrong? Sorry if this has already been asked, I did a search but couldn't find this particular issue. Thanks for any and all help.
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If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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crawrj said:
If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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Thanks, that must have been it. I was on Bamboozle, which is based on Gingerbread.
libracolo said:
Thanks, that must have been it. I was on Bamboozle, which is based on Gingerbread.
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Wait, did you wipe data/system,cache, and Dalvik Cache then restore your nandroid? I have a SRF 1.2, an Urban Regeneration, and a CM7 nandroid. As long as I wipe everything then restore I have no problems. I have bounced between all three today with no issues
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Wait, did you wipe data/system,cache, and Dalvik Cache then restore your nandroid? I have a SRF 1.2, an Urban Regeneration, and a CM7 nandroid. As long as I wipe everything then restore I have no problems. I have bounced between all three today with no issues
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Yeah, the issue was I was running bamboozle (GB leaked rom), so once I odin'd back to EC05, I was able to run the restore without problem. I am now running SRF 1.2 (awesome rom btw) and I was able to restore when trying to install that rom (and the genocide kernel). Thanks for all the helpful answers.
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If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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I would have thought the same thing. However, I simply restored my SFR 1.2 nandroid right over the gingerbread rom. With a few glitches smoothed out I am running fine again with no Odin involved.
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mjben said:
I would have thought the same thing. However, I simply restored my SFR 1.2 nandroid right over the gingerbread rom. With a few glitches smoothed out I am running fine again with no Odin involved.
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Yeah, I have gotten the dreaded Google Services Framework FC's a couple of times but for the most part I can wipe everything and restore a Froyo setup even when on a Gingerbread ROM. The purp recovery is good like that.
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Yeah, I have gotten the dreaded Google Services Framework FC's a couple of times but for the most part I can wipe everything and restore a Froyo setup even when on a Gingerbread ROM. The purp recovery is good like that.
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Thanks for the info. I will have to remember that and try it out in the future.
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Thanks for the info. I will have to remember that and try it out in the future.
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Hey, no problem crawrj. It definately comes in handy with all of the testing I do for sure.
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When restoring across different OS versions it is handy to do a Restore>Advanced Restore Data from the Nand backup. There may be the occasional FC if the data format has changed but that usually can be fixed by clearing data of the offending app, especially for Google sevice framework.
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When restoring across different OS versions it is handy to do a Restore>Advanced Restore Data from the Nand backup. There may be the occasional FC if the data format has changed but that usually can be fixed by clearing data of the offending app, especially for Google sevice framework.
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Kenny - I did try that as well. I tried everything, I did the "Restore" option like 4 separate times, I wiped data, cache, dalvik cache 3 x, even did the Advanced option and went down the list. None of that helped. Now it may be that I just didn't wait long enough, but I figured 4-6 minutes of the "Samsung" screen meant it had stopped responding (I see that all that time in MS apps). I finally odin'd back to stock ec05, re-rooted (and updated back to cwm 3.1.0.1), then I ran the restore (not advanced), and it worked like a charm. Thanks for all the suggestions on this.
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Kenny - I did try that as well. I tried everything, I did the "Restore" option like 4 separate times, I wiped data, cache, dalvik cache 3 x, even did the Advanced option and went down the list. None of that helped. Now it may be that I just didn't wait long enough, but I figured 4-6 minutes of the "Samsung" screen meant it had stopped responding (I see that all that time in MS apps). I finally odin'd back to stock ec05, re-rooted (and updated back to cwm 3.1.0.1), then I ran the restore (not advanced), and it worked like a charm. Thanks for all the suggestions on this.
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Sometimes our phones can be so finicky. Glad you got it working. Usually when Dalvik is rebuilding it takes awhile at the S screen, so you are correct that 4-6 minutes at Samsung is a cry for help from your phone.
crawrj said:
If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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Not true. I always go from froyo to gingerbread with backups. What he Did wrong was not wipe when he tried to restore his back up that's why he got stuck on the Sammy screen. Also if he tried to restore a rfs froyo rom it could've gotten stuck there also since bammbozle was ext4.
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Esteway.619 said:
Not true. I always go from froyo to gingerbread with backups. What he Did wrong was not wipe when he tried to restore his back up that's why he got stuck on the Sammy screen. Also if he tried to restore a rfs froyo rom it could've gotten stuck there also since bammbozle was ext4.
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You can restore from EXT4 to RFS with advanced restore data nand. He said he tried all of this and still got stuck. But I think you are correct and the first restore attempt borked everything. From there a reflash then advanced restore data should have worked.
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You can restore from EXT4 to RFS with advanced restore data nand. He said he tried all of this and still got stuck. But I think you are correct and the first restore attempt borked everything. From there a reflash then advanced restore data should have worked.
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So if I understand what you guys said, I should have wiped first (before the initial restore), which I didn't do. When the first restore didn't work, then I did the wipe x3, but it sounds like by that point it was already too late. So should you always wipe before restoring? I only ask, because once I got everything back to a good place I flashed the sfr 1.2. The first attempt caused the phone to boot up with that annoying "Android" screen, so I just booted into CWM and restored. That time I just restored (no wipes, no advanced) and it restored fine. I then re-flashed and all was good. So it seems like you don't always have to wipe x3 before restoring? Thanks btw, all good info for future ref.
I am a currently running swagged out stock but would like to see decks ics ROM, would backing up sos and restoring to it after checking out the ics ROM be fine? will i have to wipe anything between the two ROMs?
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Just do a back up via recovery. Then flash your new from. Afterwards restore via recovery and you will be fine
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Yes, backing up your rom, trying a new one, and flashing back is perfectly fine, everyone here does it.
Just remember to wipe everything BEFORE flashing (restoring). Restoring a backup is just like flashing a new rom, you need to wipe before flashing.
I never wipe when restoring a backup. It's just an image.
sitlet said:
Yes, backing up your rom, trying a new one, and flashing back is perfectly fine, everyone here does it.
Just remember to wipe everything BEFORE flashing (restoring). Restoring a backup is just like flashing a new rom, you need to wipe before flashing.
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Always the safe way to avoid problems.
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HipKat said:
I never wipe when restoring a backup. It's just an image.
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Also, just an FYI - backups WON'T work (or maybe worse than just that) if you repartition between bking up and restoring.
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Hey guys (or girls) I just had a quick concern about nandroid backups and restores... When I do a backup of the current state of my phone, and I'm running flawlessly on a rom. If I happen to try a different rom and don't like it so I choose to restore to that certain backup. Will there be any problems like force closes or apps acting up all weird? Sorry guys just never actually have done a restore of a nandroid.
I've never had any problems. I always wipe says, cache, and delvik cache before restoring a back up though.
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mikel719 said:
I've never had any problems. I always wipe says, cache, and delvik cache before restoring a back up though.
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Alright. Thanks man. Guess the case is closed now.
Carbajal3009 said:
Alright. Thanks man. Guess the case is closed now.
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just to be safe i always also do titanium backup for all my apps on a separate sd card whenever i test a new rom out as well as a nandroid. sorry if this is a newb tip. i r newb also.
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just to be safe i always also do titanium backup for all my apps on a separate sd card whenever i test a new rom out as well as a nandroid. sorry if this is a newb tip. i r newb also.
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yea i literally backed up everything via titanium backup just in case and anything dealing with flashing and or using adb i do a nanodroid just in case
I always forget to wipe dalvik and cache but I've never had any problems. The first time I installed Blazer ROM 3.5 though it would always force close when I flashed the ICS theme but not the regular. Somehow it was fixed when I DIDN'T wipe cache/dalvik even though the instructions said to. But I'm noob too so I have no idea
Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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If you don't perform the wipe before installing a different rom, all you are doing is installing over top of, and you can run into problems that way. The exception would be that some of the developers start the installation by formatting.
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Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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I get what your saying and its an interesting question..
RESTATED: WIPE EVERYTHING AND BACKUP THE WIPAGE....lol
So that if) t were restored, it would restore a blank...tricky to explain
Ok so imo, i dont think it works...i have zero base for my opinion. But even if it does work why? Wiping is faster than restoring anyway. Flashing TDJ's superwipe is even better and still faster than restoring.
Interesting question nonetheless
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Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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You want to backup before you wipe because if you backup afterwards you would be backing up either a blank ROM or by a small chance a wiped version of your current one.
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You want to backup before you wipe because if you backup afterwards you would be backing up either a blank ROM or by a small chance a wiped version of your current one.
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Thanks yeah i learned why backup are so inportent so i have tons of backups all labeled.
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This is a very noobish question that I couldn't even find a post about it on the forums. Here's the situation: I'm running ics by Lord Clockan on my phone. I'm going to make a backup of it and then flash jellytime by randomblame today. I know I need to do a full wipe before I flash jellytime. If I want to switch back to ics tomorrow, do I need to do a full wipe again before flashing my backup? I don't flash roms very often, and never backups, so, someone please guide me!
When you restore a nandroid backup from recovery you don't need to perform a wipe, only when flashing a new rom
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When you restore a nandroid backup from recovery you don't need to perform a wipe, only when flashing a new rom
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Thank you (I'm out of 'thank you's for the day). So after I flash jellytime, I can constantly switch between ics and jt without wiping anything, since they're both nandroids?
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Thank you (I'm out of 'thank you's for the day). So after I flash jellytime, I can constantly switch between ics and jt without wiping anything, since they're both nandroids?
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I wouldn't do that if I were you, it's always best to full wipe when changing stuff...
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I wouldn't do that if I were you, it's always best to full wipe when changing stuff...
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I have to agree, keep a current nandroid of your daily rom and if you want to play with JB do a Full wipe install as it is progressing quite quick.
I tought I need wipe after retore.
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I tought I need wipe after retore.
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Well if you wiped after restore, you wouldn't have anything on your phone, wouldn't you? The best rule of thumb to go by is this: Whenever you're flashing a kernel/gapps/whatever that doesn't change your ROM, wipe cache and Dalvik. If you are flashing a new ROM or restoring a nandroid, do a full wipe (system, data, cache, Dalvik).
Good information from all of you since I also thought about these questions.
Will a backup from clockworkmod also backup apps and settings aswell or is titanbackup needed here?
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It backups everything, so no need for Titanium when you are restoring a nandroid, you only need it when you are switching between ROMs.
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This is a very noobish question that I couldn't even find a post about it on the forums. Here's the situation: I'm running ics by Lord Clockan on my phone. I'm going to make a backup of it and then flash jellytime by randomblame today. I know I need to do a full wipe before I flash jellytime. If I want to switch back to ics tomorrow, do I need to do a full wipe again before flashing my backup? I don't flash roms very often, and never backups, so, someone please guide me!
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I am not a pro so please correct me if i am wrong and thank me if i am correct XD
here the step normall i do before flash another rom
>Backup alll Apps (i am using Titanium Backup)
>Flash Full Wipe ZIP ( find at ARHD page )
>FLash ROM ( what ever you wanted )
if you wanted to flash back to another rom then do back again from step 1 .