Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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If you don't perform the wipe before installing a different rom, all you are doing is installing over top of, and you can run into problems that way. The exception would be that some of the developers start the installation by formatting.
Omnicide said:
Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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I get what your saying and its an interesting question..
RESTATED: WIPE EVERYTHING AND BACKUP THE WIPAGE....lol
So that if) t were restored, it would restore a blank...tricky to explain
Ok so imo, i dont think it works...i have zero base for my opinion. But even if it does work why? Wiping is faster than restoring anyway. Flashing TDJ's superwipe is even better and still faster than restoring.
Interesting question nonetheless
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Omnicide said:
Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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You want to backup before you wipe because if you backup afterwards you would be backing up either a blank ROM or by a small chance a wiped version of your current one.
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Master&Slave™ said:
You want to backup before you wipe because if you backup afterwards you would be backing up either a blank ROM or by a small chance a wiped version of your current one.
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Thanks yeah i learned why backup are so inportent so i have tons of backups all labeled.
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I am a currently running swagged out stock but would like to see decks ics ROM, would backing up sos and restoring to it after checking out the ics ROM be fine? will i have to wipe anything between the two ROMs?
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Just do a back up via recovery. Then flash your new from. Afterwards restore via recovery and you will be fine
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Yes, backing up your rom, trying a new one, and flashing back is perfectly fine, everyone here does it.
Just remember to wipe everything BEFORE flashing (restoring). Restoring a backup is just like flashing a new rom, you need to wipe before flashing.
I never wipe when restoring a backup. It's just an image.
sitlet said:
Yes, backing up your rom, trying a new one, and flashing back is perfectly fine, everyone here does it.
Just remember to wipe everything BEFORE flashing (restoring). Restoring a backup is just like flashing a new rom, you need to wipe before flashing.
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Always the safe way to avoid problems.
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HipKat said:
I never wipe when restoring a backup. It's just an image.
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Also, just an FYI - backups WON'T work (or maybe worse than just that) if you repartition between bking up and restoring.
It's only Flashahol, try a sip...
Hey guys (or girls) I just had a quick concern about nandroid backups and restores... When I do a backup of the current state of my phone, and I'm running flawlessly on a rom. If I happen to try a different rom and don't like it so I choose to restore to that certain backup. Will there be any problems like force closes or apps acting up all weird? Sorry guys just never actually have done a restore of a nandroid.
I've never had any problems. I always wipe says, cache, and delvik cache before restoring a back up though.
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mikel719 said:
I've never had any problems. I always wipe says, cache, and delvik cache before restoring a back up though.
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Alright. Thanks man. Guess the case is closed now.
Carbajal3009 said:
Alright. Thanks man. Guess the case is closed now.
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just to be safe i always also do titanium backup for all my apps on a separate sd card whenever i test a new rom out as well as a nandroid. sorry if this is a newb tip. i r newb also.
husker apollo said:
just to be safe i always also do titanium backup for all my apps on a separate sd card whenever i test a new rom out as well as a nandroid. sorry if this is a newb tip. i r newb also.
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yea i literally backed up everything via titanium backup just in case and anything dealing with flashing and or using adb i do a nanodroid just in case
I always forget to wipe dalvik and cache but I've never had any problems. The first time I installed Blazer ROM 3.5 though it would always force close when I flashed the ICS theme but not the regular. Somehow it was fixed when I DIDN'T wipe cache/dalvik even though the instructions said to. But I'm noob too so I have no idea
I have Clockwordmod Recovery installed on my GSII (T989). If I do a full backup, and then flash a custom ROM/Kernel...can I just do a complete full restore if I don't like it (from the backup I made)?
Thanks!
Well there is no cyanogen recovery so that's probably why no one is replying fyi.
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nuggstein said:
I have Cyanogenmod Recovery installed on my GSII (T989). If I do a full backup, and then flash a custom ROM/Kernel...can I just do a complete full restore if I don't like it (from the backup I made)?
Thanks!
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I hope you mean clockworkmod and yes.
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xsteven77x said:
Well there is no cyanogen recovery so that's probably why no one is replying fyi.
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Big typo haha.
Exodian said:
I hope you mean clockworkmod and yes.
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So I don't have to worry about losing anything? Once I restore, it will be like I never changed anything? (Almost like an image backup of a computer)?
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Big typo haha.
So I don't have to worry about losing anything? Once I restore, it will be like I never changed anything? (Almost like an image backup of a computer)?
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Make a backup im cwm recovery and you can flash back to it and all will be as it was.
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I have Clockwordmod Recovery installed on my GSII (T989). If I do a full backup, and then flash a custom ROM/Kernel...can I just do a complete full restore if I don't like it (from the backup I made)?
Thanks!
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Exodian said:
Make a backup im cwm recovery and you can flash back to it and all will be as it was.
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No i wouldnt suggest doing that when u make a back up in cwm you making a backup of that rom! If your worried about your data use either
Titanium backup or
MyBackup Pro
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umm...I thought CWM recovery backed up everything...including data (excluding microSD card).
So, if I restore it, it restores the original Kernel and ROM? Is that correct?
If something goes wrong, while flashing new kernels/ROMS, I can boot into recovery and just restore?
I'm already rooted, I just want to be sure before I start messing with my device.
Thaks!
nuggstein said:
umm...I thought CWM recovery backed up everything...including data (excluding microSD card).
So, if I restore it, it restores the original Kernel and ROM? Is that correct?
If something goes wrong, while flashing new kernels/ROMS, I can boot into recovery and just restore?
I'm already rooted, I just want to be sure before I start messing with my device.
Thaks!
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you are correct the Nandroid backup built into the CWM recovery will back up everything on your phone as it is. including any ext partition on your external SD card. (will not backup your FAT partition where your normal downloads and pictures go, as this is where the backups are stored) but your ROM, all apps and their data and anything on your EXT partition (if you have one) will be backed up.
i suggest copying the clockworkmod backup folder to your computer before flashing anything else. just in case it messes up your SD card somehow.
doing the full restore will automatically restore ROM apps and data as they were when you backed up. feel free to flash as many roms as you want, just make sure to keep your backup safe. and to wipe all data in between roms as usual.
although titanium backup is amazing. and will backup apps and their data while booted inside your rom. its amazing, check it out.
Cwm backs up everthing including rom, kernel, and data. When you restore your backup it will restore your phone the way it was the moment that you backed it up.
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malaeus said:
you are correct the Nandroid backup built into the CWM recovery will back up everything on your phone as it is. including any ext partition on your external SD card. (will not backup your FAT partition where your normal downloads and pictures go, as this is where the backups are stored) but your ROM, all apps and their data and anything on your EXT partition (if you have one) will be backed up.
i suggest copying the clockworkmod backup folder to your computer before flashing anything else. just in case it messes up your SD card somehow.
doing the full restore will automatically restore ROM apps and data as they were when you backed up. feel free to flash as many roms as you want, just make sure to keep your backup safe. and to wipe all data in between roms as usual.
although titanium backup is amazing. and will backup apps and their data while booted inside your rom. its amazing, check it out.
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I have TB Pro...are you saying it will back all of my apps/data up, and I can just restore it from within my new ROM?
Correct. Just use caution when trying to restore system apps.
Good.Luck!
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Dude don't sorry so much!!! Super Noob!!! JK! Well not really you are never going to want stock again...just carefully flash your desired ROM.. use TB to restore all of your apps and their data. Do a nandroid back up of your current rom then one of your favorite roms after you set it up to you liking.
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I flashed Sandvold's ICS 0.8.1 yesterday, but after reading a few threads today I saw that it's better to do the custom install instead of the typical one. I did a nandroid and decided to simply flash the rom again without clearing anything.
It seems fine so far, but I'm wondering if this can lead to any problems?
Also, do I need to reinstall a2sd after re-flashing?
I think that if you downgrade from ics to gb than you need to make a full wipe but if you upgrade than I think it's ok
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I flashed Sandvold's ICS 0.8.1 yesterday, but after reading a few threads today I saw that it's better to do the custom install instead of the typical one. I did a nandroid and decided to simply flash the rom again without clearing anything.
It seems fine so far, but I'm wondering if this can lead to any problems?
Also, do I need to reinstall a2sd after re-flashing?
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Yes, always wipe.
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I think that if you downgrade from ics to gb than you need to make a full wipe but if you upgrade than I think it's ok
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If you are with the exact same rom then a wipe shouldn't be needed and a2sd should stay if you don't wipe.
Try it and if it doesn't work do a full wipe I've never seen anyone say you'll break your phone if you don't wipe. Someone on Sandvold's thread recommended app extractor from play store as an easy way to restore after a full wipe. Didn't work for me but I only tried it once so you could check that out. It just restores everything from your nandroid
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If you are with the exact same rom then a wipe shouldn't be needed and a2sd should stay if you don't wipe.
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If u are flashing the same rom (newer version) u still have to wipe dalvik. Its better anyway just to do a backup then full wipe and flash the rom then restore
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Always wipe Dalvik, sometimes, the rom setup menu does it automaticly.
Used PmR to download Bravia Engine to try, used mobile odin to flash it, in the process checking ever root and SU options, clearing Dalvik cavhe and wiping data, now my phone is unable to connect to WiFi and data. This does not bode well..
Link to PmR:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
would appreciate any help on how to recover my use of data
Have you checked your apn and WiFi settings?
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Have you checked your apn and WiFi settings?
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yea set back to the old settings but not working. Currently flashing an original version of the old firmware with odin to try and rescue what's left of my phone
iamwozy said:
Used PmR to download Bravia Engine to try, used mobile odin to flash it, in the process checking ever root and SU options, clearing Dalvik cavhe and wiping data, now my phone is unable to connect to WiFi and data. This does not bode well..
Link to PmR:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
would appreciate any help on how to recover my use of data
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Why you flashed manually with Mobile Odin? The recommended method is to let PmR use the Custom Recovery to flash the MOD. Which recovery do you have installed on your phone? CWM, TWRP?
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Why you flashed manually with Mobile Odin? The recommended method is to let PmR use the Custom Recovery to flash the MOD. Which recovery do you have installed on your phone? CWM, TWRP?
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had CWM, after flashing with odin can't access anything cos of the wipe.
Stupid, stupid me
Stuck at the Samsung logo for quite some time now, what does that mean?
Should i wipe and factory reset or is there an alternative way out?
If you had cwm already then no meaning to use mob odin, anyway if factory reset doesn't work then have to Reflash rom.
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dr.ketan said:
If you had cwm already then no meaning to use mob odin, anyway if factory reset doesn't work then have to Reflash rom.
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had to factory reset, now I have a brand new spanking phone with all my data gone!
Well, at least the wifi and data are both working now, whew
You have a nandroid backup, of course? Try the tools on dr.ketan's signature.
As a last resort, you can try Kies to return to official, unrooted, stock Sammy-blessed state. :cyclops:
And start flashing again, afterwards! :angel:
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You have a nandroid backup, of course? Try the tools on dr.ketan's signature.
As a last resort, you can try Kies to return to official, unrooted, stock Sammy-blessed state. :cyclops:
And start flashing again, afterwards! :angel:
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I actually forgot to create a nand backup before messing with the flashing. UGH.
I guess being spoonfed as a previous iOS user has it's drawbacks.
Time to play with everything now that I have such a clean UI
Glad to know that your phone returned to life.:good:
Remember to make nandroid backups regularly.
Good Luck!
I recommend titanium backup or same other compare to nandroid.
Nandroid push you back to original state while you want to test mods and roms, titanium will be much helpful to restore data on cross roms.
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dr.ketan said:
I recommend titanium backup or same other compare to nandroid.
Nandroid push you back to original state while you want to test mods and roms, titanium will be much helpful to restore data on cross roms.
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was using titanium before, now i can't restore due to my data not being on cloud/sd card.
wouldn't a "snapshot" of my phone now be a better choice for a situation like this?
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Glad to know that your phone returned to life.:good:
Remember to make nandroid backups regularly.
Good Luck!
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which app to use for nandriod backups? so far I've seen only CWM/TWRP.
I prefer titanium on ext sd card, bcoz note2 wipes internal sd card too.
Yes cwm/TWRP needs for nandroid.
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I prefer titanium on ext sd card, bcoz note2 wipes internal sd card too.
Yes cwm/TWRP needs for nandroid.
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I use both TB and Nand, for peace of mind, and to have all bases covered.
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I use both TB and Nand, for peace of mind, and to have all bases covered.
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TWRP seems to be working pretty well, but do i have to extract the folder and back it up on my desktop in case of another full wipe?
TWRP restores everything including desktop but remember it will be same as on day you have created nandroid. Subsequently changes won't have in it.
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Oh that's cool! So it really just screenshot the entire phone and restores back to when it was made?
Side note, each backup is almost a GB big, won't it eat up a lot of memory on your phone? As such, which options are best to select when using twrp? (eg efs, data, system)
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Efs is just 20mb, needs when you have messed up imei, it is must in my point of view even if you don't want nandroid backup
data is backup of installed applications
System is ROM, which needs to recover device when you have got something wrong.
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