My two favorite roms are Fresh and CM6. I would like to be able to jump between the two whenever the spirit moves me. However, whenever I try to nandroid restore to a Fresh backup from any AOSP rom, i get stuck in a bootloop and have to rewipe and flash everything in order to get back, therefore making my Fresh backup useless. Before flashing any new rom, I always do a full data, cache, and dalvik wipe. I am I missing something here?? Shouldn't I be able to flash a rom (aosp or sense), get it setup with programs the way I want them, screens setup, etc. Then make nandroid backups and jump back and forth restoring them whenever I want?? Please help
legasus233 said:
My two favorite roms are Fresh and CM6. I would like to be able to jump between the two whenever the spirit moves me. However, whenever I try to nandroid restore to a Fresh backup from any AOSP rom, i get stuck in a bootloop and have to rewipe and flash everything in order to get back, therefore making my Fresh backup useless. Before flashing any new rom, I always do a full data, cache, and dalvik wipe. I am I missing something here?? Shouldn't I be able to flash a rom (aosp or sense), get it setup with programs the way I want them, screens setup, etc. Then make nandroid backups and jump back and forth restoring them whenever I want?? Please help
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After nandroid make sure to re wipe cache and dalvik
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You might be having the same issue I was; what recovery are you on? It happened to me when I was amon ra 2.2.1 so I switched to 2.3.1 amon and I stopped getting tons of bootloops. P.S I never have to wipe anything when flashing nandroids and never had an issue. My issue was the recovery.
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dirkyd3rk said:
You might be having the same issue I was; what recovery are you on? It happened to me when I was amon ra 2.2.1 so I switched to 2.3.1 amon and I stopped getting tons of bootloops. P.S I never have to wipe anything when flashing nandroids and never had an issue. My issue was the recovery.
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I am currently running RA-supersonic-v2.3. Yesterday I did another backup of my most current Fresh setup but this time I also backed up the cache and sd-ext options in the recovery menu and I didn't have a problem nandroid restoring back after flashing an AOSP rom. I don't know, I think my phone is possessed!
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After nandroid make sure to re wipe cache and dalvik
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This is unnecessary...
iitreatedii said:
This is unnecessary...
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In most cases I would agree, but if the OP is running any sort of ext a2sd, contents of cache/dalvik cache are not entirely restored, and clearing them after restore, but before reboot is a good idea.
I just ran aosp rom for the first time for a few days. When I nanded back to airborne (sense), I flashed a sense kernel before the nand restore just out of fear of remnants. Dont know if its necessary.
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I created a backup using CWM 3.1.0.1 (from rooted EC05). I then flashed one of the new roms, and today wanted to go back, so i booted into 3.1.0.1 and did the restore (from cw). Now the phone boots up to the Samsung screen and sits there. What am I doing wrong? Sorry if this has already been asked, I did a search but couldn't find this particular issue. Thanks for any and all help.
both backups were made using 3.1.0.1? and were both made in 3finger recovery? and when you restored you were in 3 finger recovery, not reboot recovery?
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both backups were made using 3.1.0.1? and were both made in 3finger recovery? and when you restored you were in 3 finger recovery, not reboot recovery?
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I only did 1 backup, not sure what you mean by 3 finger recovery? I booted in CWM (purple) and did the back-up. I then put on the "Bamboozle" rom (and yes, I wiped everything 3x like qb shows in the vid) then installed the rom. I ran it for the past week (loved the rom, but it was eating my battery really bad) so wanted to try a different rom. I thought the easiest way to start was to restore the backup I made, so I booted back into cwm and selected Backup/Restore, Restore, Yes and it ran and said it restored fine. I reboot, but all I get to now is the Samsung screen, no further.
libracolo said:
I only did 1 backup, not sure what you mean by 3 finger recovery? I booted in CWM (purple) and did the back-up. I then put on the "Bamboozle" rom (and yes, I wiped everything 3x like qb shows in the vid) then installed the rom. I ran it for the past week (loved the rom, but it was eating my battery really bad) so wanted to try a different rom. I thought the easiest way to start was to restore the backup I made, so I booted back into cwm and selected Backup/Restore, Restore, Yes and it ran and said it restored fine. I reboot, but all I get to now is the Samsung screen, no further.
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Let me just say, I think I f'ked my phone up. So I gave up trying to restore, just odin'd back to stock (ec 05). Which I then re-rooted and re-installed CWM 3.1.0.1 (I have titanium backups as well). However, now the phone runs really, really slow and when I try to restore apps from titanium it just sits there (in batch mode). Sorry, for being a noob; hey, if nothing else, maybe I'm making someone smile at my dumb a$$. But now, if I can be even more stupid, is there a way to just "reset" the phone, by that I mean put it back to a "true stock" form so I can start over? And then, can I just delete these backups, and roms from the sd card (just hookup to laptop and delete from the sd-card)? I think maybe it'd be easier to just start from scratch again...thanks for the help, I try to keep up with the forums, but so many posts....
What he means by 3 finger is the ONLY way to get into recovery for proper operation. With power off press and hold camera, volume down, and power. Holding all 3 until you see the recovery menu. If you use any other method such as ROM Manager or Quick Boot you will more than likely screw up your phone. Neither application is recommended for recovery operations.
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I believe clockwork does not backup the kernel. You may need to install a kernel.
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I created a backup using CWM 3.1.0.1 (from rooted EC05). I then flashed one of the new roms, and today wanted to go back, so i booted into 3.1.0.1 and did the restore (from cw). Now the phone boots up to the Samsung screen and sits there. What am I doing wrong? Sorry if this has already been asked, I did a search but couldn't find this particular issue. Thanks for any and all help.
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If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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crawrj said:
If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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Thanks, that must have been it. I was on Bamboozle, which is based on Gingerbread.
libracolo said:
Thanks, that must have been it. I was on Bamboozle, which is based on Gingerbread.
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Wait, did you wipe data/system,cache, and Dalvik Cache then restore your nandroid? I have a SRF 1.2, an Urban Regeneration, and a CM7 nandroid. As long as I wipe everything then restore I have no problems. I have bounced between all three today with no issues
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JohnCorleone said:
Wait, did you wipe data/system,cache, and Dalvik Cache then restore your nandroid? I have a SRF 1.2, an Urban Regeneration, and a CM7 nandroid. As long as I wipe everything then restore I have no problems. I have bounced between all three today with no issues
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Yeah, the issue was I was running bamboozle (GB leaked rom), so once I odin'd back to EC05, I was able to run the restore without problem. I am now running SRF 1.2 (awesome rom btw) and I was able to restore when trying to install that rom (and the genocide kernel). Thanks for all the helpful answers.
crawrj said:
If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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I would have thought the same thing. However, I simply restored my SFR 1.2 nandroid right over the gingerbread rom. With a few glitches smoothed out I am running fine again with no Odin involved.
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mjben said:
I would have thought the same thing. However, I simply restored my SFR 1.2 nandroid right over the gingerbread rom. With a few glitches smoothed out I am running fine again with no Odin involved.
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Yeah, I have gotten the dreaded Google Services Framework FC's a couple of times but for the most part I can wipe everything and restore a Froyo setup even when on a Gingerbread ROM. The purp recovery is good like that.
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Yeah, I have gotten the dreaded Google Services Framework FC's a couple of times but for the most part I can wipe everything and restore a Froyo setup even when on a Gingerbread ROM. The purp recovery is good like that.
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Thanks for the info. I will have to remember that and try it out in the future.
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Thanks for the info. I will have to remember that and try it out in the future.
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Hey, no problem crawrj. It definately comes in handy with all of the testing I do for sure.
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When restoring across different OS versions it is handy to do a Restore>Advanced Restore Data from the Nand backup. There may be the occasional FC if the data format has changed but that usually can be fixed by clearing data of the offending app, especially for Google sevice framework.
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When restoring across different OS versions it is handy to do a Restore>Advanced Restore Data from the Nand backup. There may be the occasional FC if the data format has changed but that usually can be fixed by clearing data of the offending app, especially for Google sevice framework.
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Kenny - I did try that as well. I tried everything, I did the "Restore" option like 4 separate times, I wiped data, cache, dalvik cache 3 x, even did the Advanced option and went down the list. None of that helped. Now it may be that I just didn't wait long enough, but I figured 4-6 minutes of the "Samsung" screen meant it had stopped responding (I see that all that time in MS apps). I finally odin'd back to stock ec05, re-rooted (and updated back to cwm 3.1.0.1), then I ran the restore (not advanced), and it worked like a charm. Thanks for all the suggestions on this.
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Kenny - I did try that as well. I tried everything, I did the "Restore" option like 4 separate times, I wiped data, cache, dalvik cache 3 x, even did the Advanced option and went down the list. None of that helped. Now it may be that I just didn't wait long enough, but I figured 4-6 minutes of the "Samsung" screen meant it had stopped responding (I see that all that time in MS apps). I finally odin'd back to stock ec05, re-rooted (and updated back to cwm 3.1.0.1), then I ran the restore (not advanced), and it worked like a charm. Thanks for all the suggestions on this.
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Sometimes our phones can be so finicky. Glad you got it working. Usually when Dalvik is rebuilding it takes awhile at the S screen, so you are correct that 4-6 minutes at Samsung is a cry for help from your phone.
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If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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Not true. I always go from froyo to gingerbread with backups. What he Did wrong was not wipe when he tried to restore his back up that's why he got stuck on the Sammy screen. Also if he tried to restore a rfs froyo rom it could've gotten stuck there also since bammbozle was ext4.
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Esteway.619 said:
Not true. I always go from froyo to gingerbread with backups. What he Did wrong was not wipe when he tried to restore his back up that's why he got stuck on the Sammy screen. Also if he tried to restore a rfs froyo rom it could've gotten stuck there also since bammbozle was ext4.
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You can restore from EXT4 to RFS with advanced restore data nand. He said he tried all of this and still got stuck. But I think you are correct and the first restore attempt borked everything. From there a reflash then advanced restore data should have worked.
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You can restore from EXT4 to RFS with advanced restore data nand. He said he tried all of this and still got stuck. But I think you are correct and the first restore attempt borked everything. From there a reflash then advanced restore data should have worked.
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So if I understand what you guys said, I should have wiped first (before the initial restore), which I didn't do. When the first restore didn't work, then I did the wipe x3, but it sounds like by that point it was already too late. So should you always wipe before restoring? I only ask, because once I got everything back to a good place I flashed the sfr 1.2. The first attempt caused the phone to boot up with that annoying "Android" screen, so I just booted into CWM and restored. That time I just restored (no wipes, no advanced) and it restored fine. I then re-flashed and all was good. So it seems like you don't always have to wipe x3 before restoring? Thanks btw, all good info for future ref.
Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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If you don't perform the wipe before installing a different rom, all you are doing is installing over top of, and you can run into problems that way. The exception would be that some of the developers start the installation by formatting.
Omnicide said:
Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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I get what your saying and its an interesting question..
RESTATED: WIPE EVERYTHING AND BACKUP THE WIPAGE....lol
So that if) t were restored, it would restore a blank...tricky to explain
Ok so imo, i dont think it works...i have zero base for my opinion. But even if it does work why? Wiping is faster than restoring anyway. Flashing TDJ's superwipe is even better and still faster than restoring.
Interesting question nonetheless
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Omnicide said:
Useing CWM wiping everything clean to install a rom. At this point back up useing CWM. Now if I just restored that backup before every rom would that be like wiping everything for it?
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You want to backup before you wipe because if you backup afterwards you would be backing up either a blank ROM or by a small chance a wiped version of your current one.
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Master&Slave™ said:
You want to backup before you wipe because if you backup afterwards you would be backing up either a blank ROM or by a small chance a wiped version of your current one.
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Thanks yeah i learned why backup are so inportent so i have tons of backups all labeled.
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Quick question. Before I finally start installing new ROMs for my 1st time, and I end up not liking them due to errors, how am I supposed to restore? Do I have to WIPE everything before restoring my backup to stock EL29?
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Quick question. Before I finally start installing new ROMs for my 1st time, and I end up not liking them due to errors, how am I supposed to restore? Do I have to WIPE everything before restoring my backup to stock EL29?
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Its best to wipe before installing or restoring anything.
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Use kies to backup now before you start anything at a minimum.
Are you saying that you're currently pure stock el29 at the moment or is that your goal?
Yeah, I kmow it sounds noob but here is the thing.
You do a nandroid backup, then i restore it, simple as it is.
But should i completly do a clean up be4 doing the restore and does the restore be as good as the last time I used it? Or will it have some issues after first restore?
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fenchai said:
Yeah, I kmow it sounds noob but here is the thing.
You do a nandroid backup, then i restore it, simple as it is.
But should i completly do a clean up be4 doing the restore and does the restore be as good as the last time I used it? Or will it have some issues after first restore?
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Restoring is better and less work than flashing through odin.
No wipe is neccery with restore..I personaly prefer Twrp cause it saves your efs and modem in seperate partitions for easy restore.
yes I know, but what are the steps so I can fully restore it as it was before without any bugs or failures.. only tap on restore?
Yes just tap on restore; it automatically wipes and restores each partition you've backed up.
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in my experience, I always backup the ROM I'm using before flashing any new ROMs
in any ROM backup, I recommend that you checked the boot, system & data (I use TWRP recovery) if you want to revert to it later on
if all three items are checked, you can just restore it & it'll be the same as when you backed it up
as for the wipe, I always wipe (data, cache & dalvik cache) before flashing &/ restore anything, just to be on the safe side