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Is the sprint version compatible with the Verizon network? With some unlocking or something?
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Nope.
Um.... can you elaborate on why? From what I saw they are very very similar just the carrier firmware/ is different
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Um.... can you elaborate on why? From what I saw they are very very similar just the carrier firmware/ is different
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The frequencies are different. And Verizon/Sprint won't activate phones of each other's networks anyway even if they were compatible.
So there is no way to change said frequencies? And thank you.
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Um.... can you elaborate on why? From what I saw they are very very similar just the carrier firmware/ is different
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I honestly haven't really looked into it, but as far as I know, the LTE/4G radio is different, but the CDMA radio should be the same. So, if you can find someone at Verizon that would be willing to activate a non-Verizon phone (extremely unlikely I would say), then you should be able to get regular, non-LTE Verizon service on a Sprint device, assuming the firmware was flashed properly. The guys in this thread have made some progress on CDMA devices.
you could, but you wouldn't have 4g. The same way you'd flash a verizon nexus to cricket, you'd flash it to sprint. There are already small mods out there to get a sprint g'nex to operate on verizons bands, so to me, that proves the hardware works. The only thing wierd about the sprint version is its embedded sim. Its worth a shot, but good luck getting anyone to do the leg work for you.
Interesting. I might have a few connections at Verizon Wireless retail stores. A friend of mine, his mother works at one. So I might be able to get her to activate it.
Its not as simple as just activating it. At Verizon, our 4g phones are activated by the sim, not the imei. If the sim is not in Verizon's system, it will give a sim validation error.
Even with 3g phones like the iPhone, if the imei is not in Verizon's system, it will give a device validation error.
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phio said:
Its not as simple as just activating it. At Verizon, our 4g phones are activated by the sim, not the imei. If the sim is not in Verizon's system, it will give a sim validation error.
Even with 3g phones like the iPhone, if the imei is not in Verizon's system, it will give a device validation error.
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Your right. I was thinking the other way around.
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Interesting. I might have a few connections at Verizon Wireless retail stores. A friend of mine, his mother works at one. So I might be able to get her to activate it.
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Just... buy a Verizon model? Why would you take a Sprint model and gimp yourself to Verizon 3G, dealing with the hassle, when you can very simply and cheaply buy a Verizon one with LTE and absolutely no hassle.
Hi, i'm buying a Samsung galaxy s3, and i worry about bad ESN phone that i can't use on my tmobile account.
For that reason, i think i will pay for a s3 ATT ( if ATT s3 is a bad ESN phone than i still can unlock and use it with my tmobile account, right? )
But i hear someone said that if i use a unlock ATT phone then tmobile data plan won't work on that att phone. I don't know if this is correct information or not.
Can someone help me out?
Thank you very much.
Also Is there anyone to avoid bad esn phone on craiglists?
Furthermore, is there anyone to buy a bad ESN Tmobile phone, and somehow i can use it with tmobile ?
Once its been blacklisted it will not work with that specific carrier. If you want to buy one off craigslist...have the seller meet you at a at&t store or T-Mobile and have the rep check if the imei for you. If the seller is unwilling to do that...don't trust it.
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Once its been blacklisted it will not work with that specific carrier. If you want to buy one off craigslist...have the seller meet you at a at&t store or T-Mobile and have the rep check if the imei for you. If the seller is unwilling to do that...don't trust it.
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I hear some story that the phone is good at the time people trade phones. However after 1 month, it become a bad ESN phone.
If Tmobile rep check the phone for me, will it avoid that situation?
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I hear some story that the phone is good at the time people trade phones. However after 1 month, it become a bad ESN phone.
If Tmobile rep check the phone for me, will it avoid that situation?
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honestly, even if the tmobile check, the imei will still be good during the transaction. it isn't until the seller contacts asurion which will most likely be a couple days later to report it lost or stolen. Im not sure how this can be prevented. Some people suggest to call t-mobile have the imei registered to your account right away, or even to leave a note on your account for it. But most likely asurion is the one who are blacklisting the phones not t-mobile.
This isn't CDMA. ESN phones are no good the moment they are determined that they are stolen or tied to account with a over due balance. On the other hand. GSM phones usually don't get blacklisted. And even if it is blacklisted it is only blacklisted to its specific carrier. So you shouldn't have a problem bringing the phone to T-Mobile.
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Sound right.
Furthermore, may I ask if i buy a ATT S3 to unlock and use it with Tmobile, will Tmobile data plan work on S3 ATT phone?
i c some thread said that it won't work, or it won't function fully. is that true?
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Sound right.
Furthermore, may I ask if i buy a ATT S3 to unlock and use it with Tmobile, will Tmobile data plan work on S3 ATT phone?
i c some thread said that it won't work, or it won't function fully. is that true?
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You'll get 3G with T-Mobile. It will work.
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You'll get 3G with T-Mobile. It will work.
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Is that just 3G or HSPA+ ? I was thinking the same thing ?
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You will not get 3G. If I am correct you will only pick up EDGE data since the networks run on different bands and AT&T phones are set to run on AT&T bands and not T-Mobile.
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You will not get 3G. If I am correct you will only pick up EDGE data since the networks run on different bands and AT&T phones are set to run on AT&T bands and not T-Mobile.
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Is there a way you can modify a band settings software wise, in order to work with TMO 4g prepaid plan? I have an i747 ATT unlocked and would like to use with TMO next month. Thanks for your input.
That I am aware of no. There is thread started on here were there is a bounty to get it working, but it seems like it is not going to work.
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Is there a way you can modify a band settings software wise, in order to work with TMO 4g prepaid plan? I have an i747 ATT unlocked and would like to use with TMO next month. Thanks for your input.
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I juts bought an unlocked AT&T S3 today and i am using T-Mobiles prepaid plan. So far i have been getting 4G in some places but EDGE mostly and i want to know what can be done about this. Im thinking of selling or trading this phone for a T-Mobile unlocked version. If there is anything else that can be done about this do let me know.
Hello all.
As you can see by my name, Im'a Noob! i have a good understanding of computers and cell phones and can follow directions well but have not attempted anything like this so....
Here's the deal, Today i went to Wal-mart to get a new phone for my wife. I decided on the T mobile Samsung galaxy S 4 (on the Wal-mart family plan $40 a month unlimited) . unfortunately, it apparently does not get signal at my house. What i desire to do is move it to straight talk. because Verizon does have signal at my house. So from this point, is there any way to get this Galaxy S4 to see the Verizon towers and work on the Straight talk network using those Verizon towers? And If So, Can someone please post the step by step instructions (without assuming that i know what a jailbreak or unlocking is) so that i can make my wife happy.
Please and Thank you in advance for all your responses and help!!
Im'a Noob
No
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No it can't be done, or no you won't help me?
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No it can't be done, or no you won't help me?
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Can't be done
Can't be done. T-Mobile is GSM, Verizon is CDMA, incompatible networks.
Straight Talk resells service for the major carriers but for Sprint and Verizon, who are CDMA carriers/networks, you have to get phones compatible with CDMA to use on Straight Talk and vice versa for T-Mobile and AT&T.
ok how about this
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Can't be done. T-Mobile is GSM, Verizon is CDMA, incompatible networks.
Straight Talk resells service for the major carriers but for Sprint and Verizon, who are CDMA carriers/networks, you have to get phones compatible with CDMA to use on Straight Talk and vice versa for T-Mobile and AT&T.
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What if i unlock the phone, then get an At&t phone activated on the straight talk network and put its sim card in the Galaxy s4? would that make the s4 work on the straight talk network?
thanks again for all your help
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What if i unlock the phone, then get an At&t phone activated on the straight talk network and put its sim card in the Galaxy s4? would that make the s4 work on the straight talk network?
thanks again for all your help
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Noooooooooo
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i saw it in this thread
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Noooooooooo
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283068&highlight=verizon
they said if you unlock it and put an at&t sim in it then the phone worked?
The only solution is to sell it ... let me know how much you want for it I might buy it if the price is right
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sell it?
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The only solution is to sell it ... let me know how much you want for it I might buy it if the price is right
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i paid $650 for it today... no one is going to pay me that...i cant see selling it just yet, im sure there is a solution. Or will be soon enough
Have you tried the Wi-Fi calling option while at home? Assuming you have Wi-Fi at home...
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no ur only solution it not to sell it all you need to do is get a straight talk or a net10 sim card and pop it in the phone and than ur in business you need to update the apn settings for the phone to work..... straight talk and net10 run off of att towers so if att gets service where you live ur gonna be good..... these other people don't know what they're talking about... it has been done and it can be done
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if you can't get a net10 sim card that runs off att I have several of them and I'll sell you one cheaper than the stores have
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The only solution is to sell it ... let me know how much you want for it I might buy it if the price is right
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Neither the T-Mobile nor AT&T variant will work on Verizon. Period. There isn't an unlock you can do, no ROM you can flash, no special code you can put in to change that fact.
For ST or Net10 to use the Verizon towers you need a CDMA phone, which the M1919 S4 is not. As was mentioned in the post above mine, you DO have the option to run off of T-Mobile or AT&T networks either through the respective carriers or use those towers via Net10 or Straight Talk; but using the Verizon towers in any way is impossible with the particular device you purchased.
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Hello all.
As you can see by my name, Im'a Noob! i have a good understanding of computers and cell phones and can follow directions well but have not attempted anything like this so....
Here's the deal, Today i went to Wal-mart to get a new phone for my wife. I decided on the T mobile Samsung galaxy S 4 (on the Wal-mart family plan $40 a month unlimited) . unfortunately, it apparently does not get signal at my house. What i desire to do is move it to straight talk. because Verizon does have signal at my house. So from this point, is there any way to get this Galaxy S4 to see the Verizon towers and work on the Straight talk network using those Verizon towers? And If So, Can someone please post the step by step instructions (without assuming that i know what a jailbreak or unlocking is) so that i can make my wife happy.
Please and Thank you in advance for all your responses and help!!
Im'a Noob
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Its a hardware issue think of it this way its like using an AMD motherboard with an Intel processor they just don't fit together.
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i paid $650 for it today... no one is going to pay me that...i cant see selling it just yet, im sure there is a solution. Or will be soon enough
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Where'd you buy it? I bought mine from TMO and was told I can return it within 30 days for a full refund. As others have posted, you can't do what you want with that phone, period.
Edit: Reread your original post. If you have to have Verizon then the phone you bought won't work. Just like a AM radio won't pick up FM stations. It's that simple. Take it back to Walmart and get a refund. BUT, if you can live with using T-mobile away from home and have wifi at home you can get a T-Mobile plan and use wifi calling and internet access at home, and the TMO network elsewhere. You want to use wifi at home anyway because it doesn't count towards data or calling usage. It's all seamless, so there's no problem using it that way.
Dude seriously I find it hard to believe you don't have Wi-Fi in your home. Because if you do, your problems are solved. Your phone supports Wi-Fi calling and messaging (SMS/MMS). This is why I switched to T mobile.
Im'a noob said:
Hello all.
As you can see by my name, Im'a Noob! i have a good understanding of computers and cell phones and can follow directions well but have not attempted anything like this so....
Here's the deal, Today i went to Wal-mart to get a new phone for my wife. I decided on the T mobile Samsung galaxy S 4 (on the Wal-mart family plan $40 a month unlimited) . unfortunately, it apparently does not get signal at my house. What i desire to do is move it to straight talk. because Verizon does have signal at my house. So from this point, is there any way to get this Galaxy S4 to see the Verizon towers and work on the Straight talk network using those Verizon towers? And If So, Can someone please post the step by step instructions (without assuming that i know what a jailbreak or unlocking is) so that i can make my wife happy.
Please and Thank you in advance for all your responses and help!!
Im'a Noob
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You can sim unlock then activate with at&T but the signal won't work well all because every carrier use different frequency bandwidth it won't be the same
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i paid $650 for it today... no one is going to pay me that...i cant see selling it just yet, im sure there is a solution. Or will be soon enough
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And when you see this magical fix, let me know...in fact wondering minds wanna know.
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i paid $650 for it today... no one is going to pay me that...i cant see selling it just yet, im sure there is a solution. Or will be soon enough
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If you say you paid $650 for it today, then why not return it for a refund if you don't get TMobile service at your house? Why are you suffering yourself all this turmoil?
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You can sim unlock then activate with at&T but the signal won't work well all because every carrier use different frequency bandwidth it won't be the same
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe the AT&T and T-Mobile variations are able to pick up 100% of each other's bands so this argument is invalid.
I am currently on Verizon, with a Galaxy Nexus. I bought a Droid DNA off of eBay (really good deal), and want to know if I can just pop in my sim card, and go. I know the sizes are different, so I can use a sim cutter, and go to town on it. When I was checking the ESN with the Verizon rep, they said I would need to call to activate the phone. I've read on the interweb you can swap sims on 4G phones with no issue. So, much like everything on the interweb, there is conflicting information. What's the good word?
Actually both the DNA and gnex require micro sims, so it should fit right away. and yes, you can just pop in the sim and wait for it to recognize, but do it on the sense ROM before gaining s-off and flashing roms because I remember reading that cm doesn't have a certain file or something that prevents you from activating it when you run a custom ROM. Anyways, to answer your question yes
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Verizon would need to activate because they use cdma and only use approved devices on their network.
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Well Verizon exclusive devices like the droid DNA are pre-approved, and as long as it was sold by Verizon period, and is a 4g device, then you can swap sims all you want.
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Verizon would need to activate because they use cdma and only use approved devices on their network.
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But this seems to contradict what is on Verizon's own website:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/faqs/VZAccess/4g_sim_card.html
Can I use my Verizon Wireless 4G SIM in more than one device?
Yes; the Verizon Wireless 4G SIM card contains all of your subscriber information, so the SIM card is portable and can be used in any Verizon Wireless-certified 4G device. All usage will be billed to the account associated with the 4G SIM card.
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I'll find out for sure when my phone arrives in the mail, and I'll update this thread.
I took the Sim card from my wife's stratosphere and put it into my old droid charge and it worked just fine. All I had to do was wait for it to recognize the Sim.
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RhinoShock said:
Well Verizon exclusive devices like the droid DNA are pre-approved, and as long as it was sold by Verizon period, and is a 4g device, then you can swap sims all you want.
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I'm sure your right. I was just basing my answer on my years of sprint service. Never had Verizon 4g.
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I'm sure your right. I was just basing my answer on my years of sprint service. Never had Verizon 4g.
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Hahaha sprint.. I hate them.
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Lol me too.
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I left sprint for verizon a little over a year ago. I have had no remorse leaving. Not to get too far off topic, but the only real benefit to sprint is their unlimited data. But since you can't connect to their network, or it's slow as hell, what's the point?
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I left sprint for verizon a little over a year ago. I have had no remorse leaving. Not to get too far off topic, but the only real benefit to sprint is their unlimited data. But since you can't connect to their network, or it's slow as hell, what's the point?
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Yup. Agreed. I did the same thing. Lol.
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Got my phone today. Popped in the Verizon 4G sim from my Nexus, and my DNA read the service with no issues. I did not have to call Verizon to swap the phone.
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Got my phone today. Popped in the Verizon 4G sim from my Nexus, and my DNA read the service with no issues. I did not have to call Verizon to swap the phone.
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Ya see. Told u you would be OK.
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How do you unlock this phone from Verizon. I don't want to hear "this phone won't work with other carriers" or what ever. I just want to unlock this phone from Verizon. Please help!
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How do you unlock this phone from Verizon. I don't want to hear "this phone won't work with other carriers" or what ever. I just want to unlock this phone from Verizon. Please help!
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You may be able to flash this phone to straight talk or page plus but as far as unlocking it and using it as a gsm phone I don't think that will be possible because it only has CDMA radios. If I am wrong some one please correct me.
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You may be able to flash this phone to straight talk or page plus but as far as unlocking it and using it as a gsm phone I don't think that will be possible because it only has CDMA radios. If I am wrong some one please correct me.
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I was hoping to go to straight talk. I already bought a Sim from them.
How would I flash to straight talk?
Or Verizon prepaid... I have a donor phone for Verizon prepaid but I would prefer ST if possible.
My donor phone is the gusto 2 currently on $50 prepaid plan. I wouldn't mind 1x if that's all that comes wwith that plan. If I use vzw prepaid do I need a Sim? Do I need to flash?
Kinda rude to post a question and then state "I don't want to hear...". Have you tried Google? I recently started looking into going to straight talk and so far all I have found is that the Toro will not work with it. But I have not looked deeply yet. As old as this phone is, you should be able to find what you need by searching. And the development section is the wrong place for this.
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Kinda rude to post a question and then state "I don't want to hear...". Have you tried Google? I recently started looking into going to straight talk and so far all I have found is that the Toro will not work with it. But I have not looked deeply yet. As old as this phone is, you should be able to find what you need by searching. And the development section is the wrong place for this.
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you have to buy a cdma activation kit from straight talk. i activated a verizon iphone thru them. only thing is that you will loose 4g. staright talk is only 3g
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you have to buy a cdma activation kit from straight talk. i activated a verizon iphone thru them. only thing is that you will loose 4g. staright talk is only 3g
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From what I have read so far it depends on the phone. But again I haven't gotten far with my search. But you can go on straight talks website and enter in some information from your phone, and it will tell you if you can activate it. I'm thinking about a nexus 5 on straight talk.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696621
My video tutorial on flashing to PagePlus