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How long if/when will we see Android 4.0.4/5 on HOX

Will this now be our next major update for the HOX ?
Reading the changlog on version .4 improves/updates more than 100 issues over .3
And looks to be a major improvment!
Although sense might be as good/better already in some areas.
One thing we know for certain......mainland Europe will get it first!
I have heard a comment of "we haven't even got version 3 of the kernel yet"......what is the significance of this ?

I had it on my Galaxy Nexus before I sold it and didn't notice anything different over 4.0.3 personally. It was more a bug fix release than anything else
Still, it would be nice to get it as it's out! Having said that, HTC skipped over 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 so they may skip over this too

EddyOS said:
I had it on my Galaxy Nexus before I sold it and didn't notice anything different over 4.0.3 personally. It was more a bug fix release than anything else
Still, it would be nice to get it as it's out! Having said that, HTC skipped over 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 so they may skip over this too
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Interesting, you could be right, I see the nexus was due to get .5 in April did that happen ?
Does it stop at .5 then move to Android 5 ?

I bet we just skip straight to Jelly bean and Sense 4.5
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Nubzori said:
I bet we just skip straight to Jelly bean and Sense 4.5
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Sense 4.5 I can see happening but not Jelly Bean, no doubt we will have the "Two X" phone by then!

surfer1000 said:
Sense 4.5 I can see happening but not Jelly Bean, no doubt we will have the "Two X" phone by then!
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Jelly comes in september
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Nubzori said:
Jelly comes in september
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There is no official release date for it yet, in fact "The Wall Street Journal quotes a source that says Jelly Bean will be released by Thanksgiving (November 22, 2012)."
So if released in November it would take HTC a few months to test it before they release it, hence the "Two X" March/April 2013

4.0.5 isn't on the Nexus btw

EddyOS said:
4.0.5 isn't on the Nexus btw
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That's been delayed then, there is a good review here http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-0-3-vs-4-0-4-vs-4-0-5-75651

The 4.0.5 update would appear to be for the Verizon Nexus only, and not the GSM handset, so it may not reach other GSM handsets either

surfer1000 said:
Sense 4.5 I can see happening but not Jelly Bean, no doubt we will have the "Two X" phone by then!
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Pretty sure we'll get jelly bean, if HTC stick by their track record then they'll debut it on a new phone no doubt.
but it would be nice if they don't and we get it straight away.

surfer1000 said:
There is no official release date for it yet, in fact "The Wall Street Journal quotes a source that says Jelly Bean will be released by Thanksgiving (November 22, 2012)."
So if released in November it would take HTC a few months to test it before they release it, hence the "Two X" March/April 2013
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I stand corrected
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I wish they wouldnt name their products after food it makes me hungry. At least when i owned an Iphone it was a nice healthy Apple. Now im onto Android im going to have to wobble everywhere i go.

anubis1980 said:
I wish they wouldnt name their products after food it makes me hungry. At least when i owned an Iphone it was a nice healthy Apple. Now im onto Android im going to have to wobble everywhere i go.
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Yes and jelly bean is my favorite candy
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surfer1000 said:
I have heard a comment of "we haven't even got version 3 of the kernel yet"......what is the significance of this ?
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I belive the version 3 kernel refer to kernel for the Tegra chip made by Nvidia, Currently the latest version is 2.6, think this is made for Gingerbread.
One good thing about Samsung phones running Exnose is the chip is designed in-house, so there is not depending on 3rd parties to supplies the kernel.

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I belive the version 3 kernel refer to kernel for the Tegra chip made by Nvidia, Currently the latest version is 2.6, think this is made for Gingerbread.
One good thing about Samsung phones running Exnose is the chip is designed in-house, so there is not depending on 3rd parties to supplies the kernel.
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There wasent any new features added to a varsion 3 kernal, just minor bug fixes, the reason for the version change was to tidy up the version number, I think the web site for it was www.kernel.org. else google it
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Rageypeep said:
There wasent any new features added to a varsion 3 kernal, just minor bug fixes, the reason for the version change was to tidy up the version number, I think the web site for it was www.kernel.org. else google it
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I hope Nvidia can reduce the power usage for Tegra 3. I did a test of leaving the phone idle at 50% brightness, the battery died after 7hrs and 43 mins. However, I can not get more the 3 hrs screen on time in normal (none gaming) daily use.

there are several versions of 4.0.4 out already. check modaco forums.

kemmo123 said:
there are several versions of 4.0.4 out already. check modaco forums.
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Yes, but those are AOSP or AOKP, I think the thread starter wanted to know if HTC has any intentions to update their base.

It's Key Lime Pie after Jelly Bean

No Jelly Bean for Captivate Glide?

Samsung has released a list of devices that are scheduled to be updated to Jelly Bean. Missing from this list is the Captivate Glide. Oddly enough, they've chosen the Galaxy Chat (a phone that clocks in with a single-core, 850 MHz processor and a 1200 mAh battery) as the qwerty phone to update. (Indeed, all the phones to be updated are "Galaxy" phones.)
Source: The Verge

If our phone can run ICS, it can run JB, Samsung can't try to blame TouchWiz in this case like they did with the first Galaxy S when they said that the phone was in fact capable of running ICS, but not with TouchWiz, in our case, if the phone can run ICS with TouchWiz, it can run JB with TouchWiz.
So, please, Samsung, enough with the BS, and start working on JB for the Glide, I don't want to have to wait till 2013 to get the proper JB Source Code, because, that's the only thing that matters for me, the Source Code with the propietary drivers, because, let's be honest, who the f*ck wants JB with TouchWiz on top of it ? I want pure, stock, unmodded, untouched, vanilla Android.

It's no surprise, really. Doing ICS for the Glide has proven to be a hell of a lot more work than they anticipated and it's only sticking to their word that's keeping them at it.
We WILL have Jellybean ROMs of our own. There's no important kernel differences, it will come in time. Have patience, this is a ***** of a phone to develop for.

If Samsung Galaxy R gets Jelly Bean, then there's very, very good chance that we, me, and you will get to have Jelly Bean OS, just it's difficult to develop something that work, due to the difficulty of dealing with the useless digital blobs. It's like building a house without the foundation AND excepting it to stand.
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Aren't updates for carrier based phones dependent on carriers (in this case AT&T or Rogers)? So Samsung won't comment on those phones. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Didn't At&T make the initial announcement last time for ICS?

That is one thing I hate about Android, the updates and not getting them.I must admit my next phone may be a nexus as those always get the updates since they are the ones Android is developed for. I may have to say by to the hardware keyboard and replace it with a Bluetooth keyboard case. Till then 2 more years with my glide and what ever little updates that intakes.
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LOL I actually hate the proprietary phones much more. They are 100% useless if you are looking for a phone that you could customizable. I perfer Android more than any other phone OSes (personal perference).
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Dr. Mario said:
LOL I actually hate the proprietary phones much more. They are 100% useless if you are looking for a phone that you could customizable. I perfer Android more than any other phone OSes (personal perference).
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Nexus is running Android. It is the phone Google makes all its builds for. Nexus is fully customizable as well.

I know Nexus is an Android hardware, in fact I wish I can afford to have this (pretty expensive - $400 to 1,000 depending on how "fresh" it is on the market and what's inside it).
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hello d man is working on a custom ics rom for us. once he has finished that project he has promised us a jelly bean custom rom as well. so dont panic, the dman is to our rescue. I can tell you if you are expecting to have an AT rom for jelly bean they will mes that one as they did with the ics rom update. So i wont install any att rom from samsung and will wait for the dman to provides his custom rom and will have no more at bloat ware and it will bea vanillia experience of android ICs and Jelly bean since he is working with pure Android code from google AOsP, and AOKPA. If i am spelling these short codes names.

Dr. Mario said:
I know Nexus is an Android hardware, in fact I wish I can afford to have this (pretty expensive - $400 to 1,000 depending on how "fresh" it is on the market and what's inside it).
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I thanked you accidentally. The Galaxy Nexus is actually selling for a pretty reasonable price on the Google Play store, I think around 350.

I see. There are MORE than one Nexus out there, though.
BTW, I think you can remove the thank.
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Are there any custom JB roms available for glide?
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himanshuaroraer said:
Are there any custom JB roms available for glide?
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NO, none till date.

Thanks for reply, I am currently using xperia pro, and would like to shift to glide because of better hardware spec. How would to rate glide and associated experience. Is it worth switching? Keyboard is real concern here else better spec phone alreay available in market.
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Keyboard's nice, yes but also the USB-OTG, dual-core CPU and OLED screen were the selling point for me.
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Dr. Mario said:
Keyboard's nice, yes but also the USB-OTG, dual-core CPU and OLED screen were the selling point for me.
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haha i was about to say the same thing but yeah, dman (the guy behind every good rom) has promised a jb rom for our phone. im so excited that im pretty much checking the forum 5 or 6 times a day.

YAY! Been looking forward to have Jelly Bean version of Android.
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Yeah Dman and The Collective are beasts at making roms, and they are very active in the xda community.

himanshuaroraer said:
Thanks for reply, I am currently using xperia pro, and would like to shift to glide because of better hardware spec. How would to rate glide and associated experience. Is it worth switching? Keyboard is real concern here else better spec phone alreay available in market.
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Greetings.
I was switching from an MK16i, and i have to say it really worth it! The Captivate Glide beats the Xperia Pro in every aspect, except battery life (it's roughly the same).

[q] will xperia s final update be jelly bean?

I really hope not. How long do you think they will keep it updated ?
Galaxy S2 has went from Gingerbread through ICS and now it's getting Jelly Bean. Since Xperia S is starting from ICS, does it mean it will be getting new android after Jelly Bean?

XS is starting from GB,but it was an outdated launch anyway.Sony agreed to support phones(at least flagships) for 18 months of release or with 2 major updates.So somewhere in august it ends for the S.BUT,the Xperia SL is released in September,and it is exactly the same phone(just a little higher CPU clock speed).And it started with ICS,which means it should get at least JB 4.2(though that's not exactly a major update over 4.1).So if the SL gets it,the S should too,even Sony-style excuse for not doing it will sound just stupid.

well if sony stop XS on Jellybean (hope not), we still have CM rom .

G.Trenchev said:
XS is starting from GB,but it was an outdated launch anyway.Sony agreed to support phones(at least flagships) for 18 months of release or with 2 major updates.So somewhere in august it ends for the S.BUT,the Xperia SL is released in September,and it is exactly the same phone(just a little higher CPU clock speed).And it started with ICS,which means it should get at least JB 4.2(though that's not exactly a major update over 4.1).So if the SL gets it,the S should too,even Sony-style excuse for not doing it will sound just stupid.
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SL will stop at August also. Look at Arc S. Got the same fate as Arc...
And I'm pretty sure we won't have beyond 4.1 by Sony, considering Qualcomm didn't gave the sources for 4.2 for our S3 processors (which isn't exactly their fault, as they are a bit outdated. ) T (and variations) and V are the only ones that should have official 4.2 or luckily 5.0, if Qualcomm cooperates.
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I don't think anyone will ever have Jellybean on an XS
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When Sony relese 4.2 we'll all have Xperia Z14 ( relesed 2024 )
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i dont think so maybe earlier. 2023 . preferably 1Q..

Felimenta97 said:
SL will stop at August also. Look at Arc S. Got the same fate as Arc...
And I'm pretty sure we won't have beyond 4.1 by Sony, considering Qualcomm didn't gave the sources for 4.2 for our S3 processors (which isn't exactly their fault, as they are a bit outdated. ) T (and variations) and V are the only ones that should have official 4.2 or luckily 5.0, if Qualcomm cooperates.
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I feel SO bad for that :/
Sony's Timescape UI is AND WILL ALWAYS BE the best and I want to experience it with the latest possible android version... Just... PLEASE Sony AT LEAST udpate our 2012 phones with snapdragon S3 chipsets up to Android 5.0... AT LEAST 5.0.... Samsung did a good job with their S II for keeping it updated but damn TouchWiz UI sucks ****. But yeah speaking of Qualcomm not updating their sources/drivers for our devices... I guess it's impossible. Hopefully devs can do that! Wish the best for them
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wow, well that sucks ass!
i just got this phone in december. and now i feel like i bought a phone from 2010, not 2012. 5.0 android would be the time to stop, not now. please sony keep it updated!

torimatorima said:
wow, well that sucks ass!
i just got this phone in december. and now i feel like i bought a phone from 2010, not 2012. 5.0 android would be the time to stop, not now. please sony keep it updated!
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That's why we have xda .
Custom rom's are fast, stabile and we already have 4.2 - ok, it's not for daily use but I'am sure it'll be soon.
So, when Sony relese official JB and dev from xda get new drivers and other stuff they need - we'll get stabile 4.2.
The other day I installed official ICS ( I'am on JB for a few month's) - it didn't last long , I just don't like it anymore.
So...long live XS and xda
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funky0308 said:
That's why we have xda .
Custom rom's are fast, stabile and we already have 4.2 - ok, it's not for daily use but I'am sure it'll be soon.
So, when Sony relese official JB and dev from xda get new drivers and other stuff they need - we'll get stabile 4.2.
The other day I installed official ICS ( I'am on JB for a few month's) - it didn't last long , I just don't like it anymore.
So...long live XS and xda
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The problem is that devs can't do much without sources, thing that Qualcomm isn't giving us.
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Felimenta97 said:
The problem is that devs can't do much without sources, thing that Qualcomm isn't giving us.
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Agree... Android 5 or something like that?! Probably is't possible on XS, but we'll get better JB 4.2 ( custom ) when official JB 4.1 from Sony comes out.
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funky0308 said:
Agree... Android 5 or something like that?! Probably is't possible on XS, but we'll get better JB 4.2 ( custom ) when official JB 4.1 from Sony comes out.
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What we (XS users) and other Snapdragon S3 phone users (such as HTC Sensation HD) can do is sign a petition asking for sources and drivers for Android 5.0 (or 4.3) for our processors.
At the end of 2011, users signed a petition asking Qualcomm to release drivers and such for the ARMv6 (Snapdragon S1, for example) for ICS. It worked. That's why devices like the X10 Mini and Mini Pro, X8 and other companies devices have fully working ICS or even JB with camera.
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Felimenta97 said:
What we (XS users) and other Snapdragon S3 phone users (such as HTC Sensation HD) can do is sign a petition asking for sources and drivers for Android 5.0 (or 4.3) for our processors.
At the end of 2011, users signed a petition asking Qualcomm to release drivers and such for the ARMv6 (Snapdragon S1, for example) for ICS. It worked. That's why devices like the X10 Mini and Mini Pro, X8 and other companies devices have fully working ICS or even JB with camera.
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Well... Why not, we could try.
I don't know how to make on line petition but if someone start one - I'am in.
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Well... Why not, we could try.
I don't know how to make on line petition but if someone start one - I'am in.
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I think we should wait until 5.0 is announced and at least start rolling out to Nexus devices.
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Felimenta97 said:
I think we should wait until 5.0 is announced and at least start rolling out to Nexus devices.
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Agree...
You are dev? Right?
So you are the right person to start initiative...
O.K...great, glad to talk with you.
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funky0308 said:
Agree...
You are dev? Right?
So you are the right person to start initiative...
O.K...great, glad to talk with you.
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Actually, I'm not a dev (but if it goes right, should start doing something). I'm just a user, but yeah. I will see what we can do after Android 5.0 announcement
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Felimenta97 said:
Actually, I'm not a dev (but if it goes right, should start doing something). I'm just a user, but yeah. I will see what we can do after Android 5.0 announcement
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Together we are stronger .... most common sentence in the former Yugoslavia, but it's true.
Sony maybe have no interest bringing 5.0 to XS but we do...
I just love my XS.
When I first saw XS in the store I immediately fell in love with it.
Great design, great device... But I am aware that they will not update it forever so I hope dev on xda will
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ItBankRock said:
I feel SO bad for that :/
Sony's Timescape UI is AND WILL ALWAYS BE the best and I want to experience it with the latest possible android version... Just... PLEASE Sony AT LEAST udpate our 2012 phones with snapdragon S3 chipsets up to Android 5.0... AT LEAST 5.0.... Samsung did a good job with their S II for keeping it updated but damn TouchWiz UI sucks ****. But yeah speaking of Qualcomm not updating their sources/drivers for our devices... I guess it's impossible. Hopefully devs can do that! Wish the best for them
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Samsung makes their own chipsets so they don't have the same issues as others with sources. If Sony isn't able to update it beyond jelly bean then it is totally qualcomms fault for not putting out the resources necessary. Look at the Nexus 4 which isnt even AOSP because of qualcomms dumb ass. Their is something to be said about making your own hardware.
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Felimenta97 said:
What we (XS users) and other Snapdragon S3 phone users (such as HTC Sensation HD) can do is sign a petition asking for sources and drivers for Android 5.0 (or 4.3) for our processors.
At the end of 2011, users signed a petition asking Qualcomm to release drivers and such for the ARMv6 (Snapdragon S1, for example) for ICS. It worked. That's why devices like the X10 Mini and Mini Pro, X8 and other companies devices have fully working ICS or even JB with camera.
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Exactly its on qualcomm to deliver.

If Sony could only supply the dev community here with the drivers we would easily have the most updated Android phones.

Will the s3 ever see android 4.4?

I'm sure there's great features to come with it, but will we need newer devices?
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I highly doubt we will see an official OTA

Unless it can't be done someone's bound to try
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Sorry I meant an official OTA to 4.4
4.3 I'm pretty sure we'll get

This will be a heated debate for the next 3 - 6 months

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This will be a heated debate for the next 3 - 6 months
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Our hardware becomes older and older day by day so is there any point to Android 4.4 on our S3's?
stealing from CNexus post in another similar thread...
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"I think the reason why is because of this
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/...gging-android/ "

tekno4ever said:
Our hardware becomes older and older day by day so is there any point to Android 4.4 on our S3's?
stealing from CNexus post in another similar thread...
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"I think the reason why is because of this
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/...gging-android/ "
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I had replied to Cnexus 2 above your response in that thread. I actually posted in another thread beating on when it would be asked if we would get it.

My 4 year old OG epic 4g has CM10 running on it, a phone that stopped receiving updates at gingerbread... So hardware while it is a factor can still run latest android versions. It's all up the creative minds of developers.
Have a great day!

I have cm 10 but it won't update because I need to reflash md4 bootloads
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edfunkycold said:
My 4 year old OG epic 4g has CM10 running on it, a phone that stopped receiving updates at gingerbread... So hardware while it is a factor can still run latest android versions. It's all up the creative minds of developers.
Have a great day!
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Ditto
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Pretty sure s3 will get 4.4 , because I got jellybean 4.1.2 on sgs2 so why not s3 catch this kitkat. Only a year old this phone
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edfunkycold said:
My 4 year old OG epic 4g has CM10 running on it, a phone that stopped receiving updates at gingerbread... So hardware while it is a factor can still run latest android versions. It's all up the creative minds of developers.
Have a great day!
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Mine is now on cm10.2 and runs it pretty darn well actually

I refuse to call it KitKat, Damn google and their marketing schemes. 4.4 forever, and OG Epic for the win!!
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Mine is now on cm10.2 and runs it pretty darn well actually
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The galaxy S3 will be getting 4.3 in October
But I don't think it will officially get 4.4. However does officially really matter, when you can just get it unofficially?
Also by the time carriers actually start releasing 4.4 the gs3 will be a third or even fourth tier phone in the series
Also I like the idea of KitKat it was Google one upping all those people who thought they could predict them in a creative way that also set up more advertising ect...

Eh, not holding my breath. I would rather get it unofficially IMO. Nice to brag to my friends or others
"here look, I'm running the latest of android"......and your not:laugh:

hospos said:
The galaxy S3 will be getting 4.3 in October
But I don't think it will officially get 4.4. However does officially really matter, when you can just get it unofficially?
Also by the time carriers actually start releasing 4.4 the gs3 will be a third or even fourth tier phone in the series
Also I like the idea of KitKat it was Google one upping all those people who thought they could predict them in a creative way that also set up more advertising ect...
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The Galaxy S3 will but ours won't. Always always always when they announce updates forthcoming they are talking about the international versions. It is then up to Samsung and the carriers to invest resources to put them on US phones. Typically this takes several months IF the carrier is interested. AT&T just got 4.1.2 and it is not a pushed update.
As for 4.4 I have no doubts about the S3 getting that version but you will be asking the same hypothetical question then about 5.0.

I could see the s3 getting Kitkat, but not for a while after all of the other phones. Just because the s3 was a very successful phone and they're still being sold like crazy. Anyways, I hope I'll have Kitkat on my s5 on release .
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Galaxy S phones have always had two major updates (Galaxy S1 got Froyo and Gingerbread, S2 got ICS and JB. Since Android has had multiple versions of Jelly Bean, it is hard to say whether or not they think of Jelly Bean 4.1 and Jelly Bean 4.3 as two major updates for the Galaxy S3, but if not, then it is likely we will get Android 4.4 KitKat.

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Galaxy S phones have always had two major updates (Galaxy S1 got Froyo and Gingerbread, S2 got ICS and JB. Since Android has had multiple versions of Jelly Bean, it is hard to say whether or not they think of Jelly Bean 4.1 and Jelly Bean 4.3 as two major updates for the Galaxy S3, but if not, then it is likely we will get Android 4.4 KitKat.
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Since we don't even have a clue about a release date for 4.4 I would not venture a guess.

Official 4.4 is that true?!

http://www.technostall.com/xperia-s-android-442-kitkat-update/
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dieselman6969 said:
http://www.technostall.com/xperia-s-android-442-kitkat-update/
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no it's not true, when you download the file it is pure_aosp_alpha

They say sony will realease official update
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I don't think that they are gonna update the Xperia S anymore. It's a shame as it's a good device, I hope they don't do the same and abandon my Z1 after 18 months like they did with this device. Hopefully tho they might update this but it's very unlikely
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See the title 1st...
They said custom rom.
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adam20115 said:
I don't think that they are gonna update the Xperia S anymore. It's a shame as it's a good device, I hope they don't do the same and abandon my Z1 after 18 months like they did with this device. Hopefully tho they might update this but it's very unlikely
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Abandon? You expecting lifetime of updates? They didn't abandon Xperia S. The current firmware is fine.

lee480 said:
Abandon? You expecting lifetime of updates? They didn't abandon Xperia S. The current firmware is fine.
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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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I dont mean abandon, i mean like they should try to update it for as long as possible as its still a good device, thats all i mean

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Ofcourse,the current is f9.but there must be 4.3 or 4.4 update...but there is nothing.
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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.

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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.
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I m using pure Aosp 4.4 right now.
And I m happy with it.
But see every nexus has offical cm support.they are also working on 4.4.
And here only billchane and rehman FX are working.thanks to them we have 4.4 build.suppose we don't have more support from them.than what we gonna do.then I will sell my sl..and surely buy nexus 5 or htc m7
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nisu4717 said:
I m using pure Aosp 4.4 right now.
And I m happy with it.
But see every nexus has offical cm support.they are also working on 4.4.
And here only billchane and rehman FX are working.thanks to them we have 4.4 build.suppose we don't have more support from them.than what we gonna do.then I will sell my sl..and surely buy nexus 5 or htc m7
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Best not buy a HTC, support isn't great there either. The One X(L) isn't going beyond Android 4.2. If this is important to you, there's only q Nexus, a Google Play Edition phone or maybe a Motorola Moto X but we still have to see how long Motorola is going to support phones now they're part of Google.
And indeed we wouldn't be much without Rayman or bilchen. But it's like this for the vast majority of Android devices.
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I tried several KK-based roms for xperia S, but all gave me random reboots
had some on 4.3, but with 4.4 I have too many to be stable as dayly driver.
i guess they all use the same kernel (open semc), that could explain why the all have it?
but... why do some people claim to have no reboots, and others have em 'all the time'?
i'm now on nature rom (4.1) and no problems at all, it's a great rom, but i really like 4.4 as well.
will there be a stable kernel/version soon?

dreezz said:
I tried several KK-based roms for xperia S, but all gave me random reboots
had some on 4.3, but with 4.4 I have too many to be stable as dayly driver.
i guess they all use the same kernel (open semc), that could explain why the all have it?
but... why do some people claim to have no reboots, and others have em 'all the time'?
i'm now on nature rom (4.1) and no problems at all, it's a great rom, but i really like 4.4 as well.
will there be a stable kernel/version soon?
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Try Pure AOSP Kitkat rom! It's different build and I have no such problem with that
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but has same kernel?

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but has same kernel?
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Different
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but has same kernel?
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That 1 has aops kernal.its own
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Why must there be? There are unofficial versions, just use those. Are you expecting Sony to keep every single phone they ever released up to date? There must be hundreds by now (okay that was a hyperbole, 48 according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia), noone can keep up with that. If you must blame anyone or anything for the short while that phones are getting updates, blame Android because it's so hard to install on hardware (compared to more classic PC OS's like Windows and Ubuntu/Pick-Your-Favorite-Linux-Distro). Not even the Galaxy Nexus got an update to Android 4.4, and if there was one Nexus that was most like our Fuji-phones it was that one. So if our generation's Nexus isn't even getting any updates anymore, how do you expect a non-Nexus device to get that update.
Seriously, I don't like this either, so ever since KitKat I haven't run a stock ROM. Now you've learned that if stock updates are important to you, you should get a Nexus or a Google Play Edition device. Sony has been known not to be very good in providing long term updates ever since the Xperia X10 (their very first Android phone). And if you can't afford to get a new phone every 2 years (because that's how long it'll be relevant), you should stop being so sensitive about updates and be happy with what you have.
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First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
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tel033 said:
First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
S has 2 updates ics,jb.and what about sl.sl was preloaded with ics.it has only jb update.
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tel033 said:
First of all, the XS it's not just another phone sony launched, its a flagship device that only got two major updates (one actually cause ics should have been out of the box) so I at least expected 4.2 or 4. 3, even Galaxy s2 got them
second, the galaxy nexus didn't get 4.4 because of Texas instruments (supposedly) and as long as other oems continue to update it means it's possible and we have every right to complain about it
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You're absolutely correct that Galaxy Nexus lack of KitKat is due to Texas Instruments. Similar, Xperia S ain't getting 4.2 and above due to Qualcomm, not Sony.
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lee480 said:
You're absolutely correct that Galaxy Nexus lack of KitKat is due to Texas Instruments. Similar, Xperia S ain't getting 4.2 and above due to Qualcomm, not Sony.
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Ok then my mistake, but how would you then explain the galaxy s2 getting updates with a snapdragon s2?
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