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So t-mobile just released the galaxy S 2.. I still have the original vibrant.. is it worth it the upgrade?? i can get it for $250
SuperMiguel said:
So t-mobile just released the galaxy S 2.. I still have the original vibrant.. is it worth it the upgrade?? i can get it for $250
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I've owned a Vibrant, and in a word, YES.
It is the best upgrade I've ever done. You will notice a difference.
The t-mobile sgs2 is nothing like the international sgs2, its more like the htc sensation, same soc.
Aka slower and no international roms will work on it.
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best phone ever
even faster than stock SGS2 on stock ROM
CM7 is just around the corner, and then we havr ice cream
SuperMiguel said:
So t-mobile just released the galaxy S 2.. I still have the original vibrant.. is it worth it the upgrade?? i can get it for $250
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Are we going to have a section for this phone? When does that usually happen when a phone is being released?
veyka said:
The t-mobile sgs2 is nothing like the international sgs2, its more like the htc sensation, same soc.
Aka slower and no international roms will work on it.
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Based on what ? the benches that have leaked show it faster, so I do not understand the comment.
But in a word, it is worth the upgrade
SuperMiguel said:
So t-mobile just released the galaxy S 2.. I still have the original vibrant.. is it worth it the upgrade?? i can get it for $250
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HELL YES it's worth the upgrade. Mine should be here tomorrow.
oka1 said:
Based on what ? the benches that have leaked show it faster, so I do not understand the comment.
But in a word, it is worth the upgrade
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True story...androidcentral did a hands on and said that there were no noticable differences between the phones. I am not a fan of benchmarks, but it did score higher in a side by side comparison as well.
lowandbehold said:
True story...androidcentral did a hands on and said that there were no noticable differences between the phones. I am not a fan of benchmarks, but it did score higher in a side by side comparison as well.
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Exynos Chipset is much smoother when it comes to GPU performance. Hence, why the Tmobile version sucks.
babymatteo said:
Exynos Chipset is much smoother when it comes to GPU performance. Hence, why the Tmobile version sucks.
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"The phone is snappy as hell, like we expect a Galaxy S II to be. All doubt about the Snapdragon processor needs to be put to rest, because you would never know the internals are different between this one and the rest. We'll have to see how it handles games and video, but I'm expecting no issues at all."
Quoted from androidcentral HANDS ON review.
But I really did love your educated point of view. You should really become a professional blogger with your infinite knowledge and well made points.
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"The phone is snappy as hell, like we expect a Galaxy S II to be. All doubt about the Snapdragon processor needs to be put to rest, because you would never know the internals are different between this one and the rest. We'll have to see how it handles games and video, but I'm expecting no issues at all."
Quoted from androidcentral HANDS ON review.
But I really did love your educated point of view. You should really become a professional blogger with your infinite knowledge and well made points.
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i just sold my sensation and my g2x and jumped to this phone. trust me when i say i never had any issues with 3d games on the sensation. and i don't expect to have any reason to believe i will have any issues on the SGSII from t-mobile. especially once the devs roll up their sleeves and tweak everything.
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"The phone is snappy as hell, like we expect a Galaxy S II to be. All doubt about the Snapdragon processor needs to be put to rest, because you would never know the internals are different between this one and the rest. We'll have to see how it handles games and video, but I'm expecting no issues at all."
Quoted from androidcentral HANDS ON review.
But I really did love your educated point of view. You should really become a professional blogger with your infinite knowledge and well made points.
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+1
LMAO!
can't win dead biased comments
and it's not just 1 review, there are well over 5 well known phone sites with the positive review as well for the SGS2 Hercules
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luckyduck69 said:
i just sold my sensation and my g2x and jumped to this phone. trust me when i say i never had any issues with 3d games on the sensation. and i don't expect to have any reason to believe i will have any issues on the SGSII from t-mobile. especially once the devs roll up their sleeves and tweak everything.
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I don't understand why you even did any of that....The Snapdragon S3 is in the Sensation/EVO3D, but is now in the TMO SGSII, you basically got the same phone again but was ripped off...The S3 in the SGSII+maze4G are OC'd to 1.5GHz, this can be done on Sensation, making the SGSII the same as AMAZE, excluding the AMOLED and WVGA....The Sensation has qHD+SLCD which are inferior, but not worth the selling of the G2X+Sensation for a SGSII. The Normal SGSII's Exynos is @1.2GHz and reaches the S3 @1.5GHz....IF you OC the Exynos it will exceed the S3 overall....Now the Exynos's GPU is more advanced than the Adreno 220, Samsung produces better GPUs, while Qualcomm makes better CPUs on their SoCs. And Qualcomm specializes in better floating point scores, just try Linpack, calculations are faster with Qual. Sorry about this messy post, was rushing.
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I don't understand why you even did any of that....The Snapdragon S3 is in the Sensation/EVO3D, but is now in the TMO SGSII, you basically got the same phone again but was ripped off...The S3 in the SGSII+maze4G are OC'd to 1.5GHz, this can be done on Sensation, making the SGSII the same as AMAZE, excluding the AMOLED and WVGA....The Sensation has qHD+SLCD which are inferior, but not worth the selling of the G2X+Sensation for a SGSII. The Normal SGSII's Exynos is @1.2GHz and reaches the S3 @1.5GHz....IF you OC the Exynos it will exceed the S3 overall....Now the Exynos's GPU is more advanced than the Adreno 220, Samsung produces better GPUs, while Qualcomm makes better CPUs on their SoCs. And Qualcomm specializes in better floating point scores, just try Linpack, calculations are faster with Qual. Sorry about this messy post, was rushing.
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i got the G2x for free. then sold it for 150. i got the sensation for free. then sold it for 350. prior to both of these phones i had the Vibrant and Galaxy S 4G. i miss the lightweight and slender feel that the sensation could not give me. the g2x is an nvidia chipset. nvidia desktop video cards have been running hot in the recent past and the G2x was plagued by the same issue. that sucker could fry some eggs when i pushed it. so basically i'm gaining the feel and bright screen that i've missed and making 500 bucks on two items i paid nothing for. make sense?
The T-Mobile version doesn' suck.
Personally, I'm excited to upgrade my SGS4g to the SGSII
And OP, if you need to ask... lol Jk, but honestly you should slap yourself for even needing to ask...
1Ghz Single Core vs 1.5GHz Dual Core
3g Vs 4g (With T-mo's most powerful radio yet rated 42mbps - actual PEAK speeds are touted as 22mbps with averages from 8-12)
Do I need to keep going or are you convinced yet?
ok convinced... i only qualify for partial upgrade online its a $350 will this be the same price at a retailer? and do retailer have it already?
SuperMiguel said:
ok convinced... i only qualify for partial upgrade online its a $350 will this be the same price at a retailer? and do retailer have it already?
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This phone is definitively a beat, but $350 is a little bit pricey for me. I don't know what you think, but if i was you (early update), i will buy this phone from craigslist/ebay rather than from tmobile. You probably pay around $400-$450, or might get it under $400 if you are lucky. Of course,you pay a little bit more , but you dont have to stick with tmobile for another 2 years. I'll only buy phones from tmobile + 2 year contract if i get fully discount price.
I'll be getting this Wednesday if everything works out right and I can buy it in the store. Finally free of this Nexus S!!
retailers have it already??
Anyone know of a case that's like the GS3's Flip-Cover for the E4GT? I love the flip cover but won't be getting the S3 for a while, mid October at the earliest to possibly early next year.
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This is what I do. I never use clip casing at all. I always RESERVE on POCKET for my E4GT......Too bad for you I just Preorder my GS3 last friday (-_-)!
EggosEvo said:
Anyone know of a case that's like the GS3's Flip-Cover for the E4GT? I love the flip cover but won't be getting the S3 for a while, mid October at the earliest to possibly early next year.
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I'd like this too, if it exists out there anywhere.
yang704 said:
This is what I do. I never use clip casing at all. I always RESERVE on POCKET for my E4GT......Too bad for you I just Preorder my GS3 last friday (-_-)!
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Thanks for the input.... Since it seems like your gloating, Enjoy your DUAL CORE SAMSUNG WITH ANDROID 4.0. I'll keep the one I have for now(its also a dual core samsung with android 4.0). It has a lot of roms, and nothing wrong with it.
I would like a case like this also.
Yeah he is a douche, but that's like saying a dual core Intel atom is the same as a i3 not putting you down just read all about arm cortex a15 it's impressive
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Yeah he is a douche, but that's like saying a dual core Intel atom is the same as a i3 not putting you down just read all about arm cortex a15 it's impressive
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Are you really trying to equate a exynos to an atom, and a snapdragon p4 to an i3? if anything, it is exactly the other way around. The exynos is THE BEST mobile processor on the market... and it's truly sad that we will not be getting a exynos at all in the new phone. I will not be getting the SIII because of it.
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Are you really trying to equate a exynos to an atom, and a snapdragon p4 to an i3? if anything, it is exactly the other way around. The exynos is THE BEST mobile processor on the market... and it's truly sad that we will not be getting a exynos at all in the new phone. I will not be getting the SIII because of it.
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+1 agreed, so pissed we didnt get the exynos...
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+1 agreed, so pissed we didnt get the exynos...
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For me, I'm not necessarily pissed that we didn't get it, I'm just disappointed. I have heard great things about the S4, like it being one of the coolest(temperature wise) processors, a fast processor, and I've also heard that it's just as good as the Exynos. I for one am willing to try out the S4 on the Galaxy SIII(once I get it, hopefully october), and compare it to the performance I've had on my Epic 4G Touch with the Exynos.
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Lickarock, stick to FACTS the exynos in the galaxy s2 is a a9 cortex the snap dragon s3 is a15 and that's a fact with a white paper and diagrams described on arms website standing behind it..... the next question is, name one thing you want to do in android that needs 4 cores .... don't get me wrong I want 4 a15 cores to but not for operation in android .... so yet again I challenge a response were you show me software that even accepts more then 2 cores
Not standing what I already said. Benchmarks agree the lead between the quad and dual cores doesn't add up ..... because nothing is threaded for them yet nor do most applications need it ..... multiple cores are not a performance guarantee hence a atom vs a i3 ...huge performance difference right? Duh .... completely different core lay out with 3x the transistor count so yeah comparing quad to dual core is comparing apples to oranges the only reason desktops benefit..... is foreground isn't as key you are likely to need all 4 cores just for web browsing, torrenting, playing movie
Those things aren't as parallel in android..... for instance I can't watch A movie and web browse with my phone.. in sure that's coming but.... point is not even close to here yet..
So..........back on topic, any body have any idea where to get this case?
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EggosEvo said:
Anyone know of a case that's like the GS3's Flip-Cover for the E4GT? I love the flip cover but won't be getting the S3 for a while, mid October at the earliest to possibly early next year.
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Was anyone able to locate a case like this?
-I'm also interested. Thanks!
This site is the best I found. Not as thin or sleek as the case on the GS3 but it is a start.
http://www.pdair.com/index.php/smar...msung-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-sph-d710.html
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Are you really trying to equate a exynos to an atom, and a snapdragon p4 to an i3? if anything, it is exactly the other way around. The exynos is THE BEST mobile processor on the market... and it's truly sad that we will not be getting a exynos at all in the new phone. I will not be getting the SIII because of it.
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Yep... That was my reasoning for not getting the G3, already have a strong dualcore device with ICS.
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rizdog23 said:
This site is the best I found. Not as thin or sleek as the case on the GS3 but it is a start.
http://www.pdair.com/index.php/smar...msung-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-sph-d710.html
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I actually like a couple of those cases. Like the book case.
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Hey guys,
iam thinking of selling my galaxy nexus and buying one of the new quad core devices,
i was really excited about the new coming Huawei Ascend D quad since it will features the fastest CPU and a 16 core GPU. However, i have recently heard that it will be delayed because of some issues with the CPU until late Augest or September.
i already have a Sony Xperia S and after a small comparison between them in term of screen, camera, build quality, CPU/GPU i think that the other device was slightly better, i have already found a buyer but i still hesitate because the Gnex will get Android 4.1 and 5.x before any other device out there.
so, what do you think guys??
sorry for my poor English
Do what you want to. Move on.
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theking_13 said:
Do what you want to. Move on.
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The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now
mohammed510 said:
The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now
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If you know all that and have an opinion about what's the better off the phones why did you make this thread.
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kevinjgray88 said:
If you know all that and have an opinion about what's the better off the phones why did you make this thread.
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Because i think that buying 2 phones of the same generation of CPU/GPU was a mistake and i am trying to correct it by selling one of them and keeping the other one and wait for new and better devices.
I cant decide weather i should sell one of them or keep both of them
The Sony Xperia S has a wonderful screen and the Gnex will get the updates faster
mohammed510 said:
The galaxy S3 has the same screen as the galaxy nexus. However, the last one has more pixel density because the screen is slightly smaller, in my opinion the sony xperia s has a better screen than both with 344 ppi reality display with mobie bravia engine,
The HOX has several problems already with wi-fi connection and some other software issues,
I dont prefer the user interface of the LG optimus 4X
Thats way i hesitate because i dont see a phone which is worth buying right now in my opinion
Besides all of them are cortex-A9
So, i think my point is clear now
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The S3 has a better screen than the nexus. The S3 screen has pixels that are pushed closer together.
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joshnichols189 said:
The S3 has a better screen than the nexus. The S3 screen has pixels that are pushed closer together.
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I didn't know that, i only know that the S3 has a pentile screen just like the Gnex
If you check Wikipedia you will find that Exynos 5 CPU which should be better than the current Exynos quad spotted @ the galaxy S3 will be available at Q2 of 2012
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
What can a quad core do that a dual core can't? (Besides scoring better in benchmarks which we all know are meaningless)
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iLeopard said:
What can a quad core do that a dual core can't? (Besides scoring better in benchmarks which we all know are meaningless)
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Hmm.. better battery life ?? Snapdragon S3 and TI OMAP 4460 are built on 45 nm
Exynos quad 32 nm and the snapdragon S4 28 nm
I know how my S3 works, you only get one CPU online + full adreno 220 support,
The other CPU will only work if you need extra power which is rare
So it is only about battrey life, you dont really need a dual core or a quad core CPU.
I like the idea of big. LITTLE CPU which is basically contains a powerfull cortex-A15 core and a cortex-A5 core which do easy to medium tasks efficiently, in case you need more power the other core wil be online to finish the job and then ofline again
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Hmm.. better battery life ?? Snapdragon S3 and TI OMAP 4460 are built on 45 nm
Exynos quad 32 nm and the snapdragon S4 28 nm
I know how my S3 works, you only get one CPU online + full adreno 220 support,
The other CPU will only work if you need extra power which is rare
So it is only about battrey life, you dont really need a dual core or a quad core CPU.
I like the idea of big. LITTLE CPU which is basically contains a powerfull cortex-A15 core and a cortex-A5 core which do easy to medium tasks efficiently, in case you need more power the other core wil be online to finish the job and then ofline again
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Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
In the end its your decision. You're posting this on the GN forums, you're obviously gonna get a biased response
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Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
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This is correct for the current quad core cortex-A9 CPUs
However, things will be different with quad core cortex-A15 CPUs since they are so efficient
nVidia tegra 3 has 4 + 1 CPU, so they are telling us that . Our CPU is not so efficient since it was built on 40 nm and that's why we need one underclocked CPU to save battrey for the background process, people like woooow this device has 5 cores !!!!! Iam going to buy it now but they don't really know the truth about it
In other words.. we will have "real" quad core CPUs with a cortex-A15 in term of battery efficient and speed
It's your phone make your own choice. Do you want us to choose what your eating for dinner too. It seems like an iphone would be great for you seeing someone else has to form your opinion for you
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kevinjgray88 said:
It's your phone make your own choice. Do you want us to choose what your eating for dinner too. It seems like an iphone would be great for you seeing someone else has to form your opinion for you
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Well, i respect your opinion and thanks for the one star rating.
However, i like to "learn" from my mistakes,
As i said before, i think that buying 2 phones of the same generation was a mistake
And that was not going to be happened if i asked people how knows about phones more than me before buying the second identical peice of plastic.
There is no harm in asking people for help and then make my own choice.
That's why we have this section, to "ask" other people
To get some informations from them
And then to make our choice
iLeopard said:
Back to my point, name me a few applications that use more than 2 cores. As far as the battery life, when you have all four running, battery is gonna take a hit
In the end its your decision. You're posting this on the GN forums, you're obviously gonna get a biased response
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When apps become multithreaded it will have more practical use. And what? The four cores don't always fire. Battery on my S3 blows away battery on my nexus and it is only 100mah larger than the extended battery.
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If no phone is worth buying to you as you said in post #3, then don't buy another phone?
You seem like you want us to justify YOUR purchase. Its your money, do some research, if you don't like the phones out right now, then wait. Simple.
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You should watch professionally done review videos/articles and see for yourself. Here are few.
www.phonedog.com
www.gsmarena.com
www.androidcentral.com
theking_13 said:
If no phone is worth buying to you as you said in post #3, then don't buy another phone?
You seem like you want us to justify YOUR purchase. Its your money, do some research, if you don't like the phones out right now, then wait. Simple.
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My question was,
should I sell my Gnex and keep the Sony,
And "wait" for new and better devices or should I keep both?
I don't know why ppl keep telling me its your choice
Ofcourse it is my choice, iam only asking for other ppl opinions
Which will help me to make my final descion.
Just because iam thinking to sell my Gnex doesn't make me a bad guy
Isn't it?
Please, no more Angry Birds, help me or don't waste my time
I wouldn't worry about it.
mohammed510 said:
My question was,
should I sell my Gnex and keep the Sony,
And "wait" for new and better devices or should I keep both?
I don't know why ppl keep telling me its your choice
Ofcourse it is my choice, iam only asking for other ppl opinions
Which will help me to make my final descion.
Just because iam thinking to sell my Gnex doesn't make me a bad guy
Isn't it?
Please, no more Angry Birds, help me or don't waste my time
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No ones the bad guy in here. Simply put, whether you know it or not, chances are you've already made up your mind and like others have said, you are just looking for justification for whatever you are about to do. That simple. Whatever responses you get here are completely biased and might not reflect on your way of thinking.
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you seem to have a lot of money so just keep both and buy a new one.
The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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iwasblown said:
The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
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Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
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I agree.. I mean our phone kicks ass. But there is not doubt that the S3 is better
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth
What's also great about the s3 is how they are identical wit all us variants. The body is the same with all s3 models. Which means development is merged with Sprint atnt n Verizon. Then you have accessories that fit all models which means more to pick from.just overall a better phone not just spec wise.
My wife still had the s2 which is why I'll be on both forums but I feel there is more potential with s3
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I got to play around with my coworker's S3 throughout the day and I cannot believe how smooth the UI is. I was amazed with everything. So many temptations...$349 GNex, SGS3, and of course the upcoming Nexus phone(s)...
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The s3 does have better hardware, but with the software available, you will notice very little, if any difference in anything you will use your phone for. You could have 8 cores, it's not going to make your phone do anything noticeably better than the s2 or gnex. I think until we get the software to utilize all the cores, the only things that really matter right now are better camera/battery/screen..
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Yea but two threads is two threads no matter which way you put it. Two core two thread processor.
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try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
Zomg you fools. The s4 krait CPU in the s3 demolishes EVERY SoC out except the quad core exynos. Stop comparing the s4 to the s3 in our phones just because its dual core. Put it this way. The s3 in our phone is the Intel core2duo. The s4 is the Intel core i3. Both dual core but the i3, because of revamped architecture and smaller manufacturing process completely destroys the core2duo. Actually it also out performs core2quads. Cores and MHz don't make the end product. Look up benchmarks and you'll see the s4 has almost twice the performance of any dual core SoC out. Even beats tegra 3...
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bkaltec said:
I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
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The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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I think I will wait for the tmobile galaxy note instead
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The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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People go overboard with the pentile thing. My epic 4g had a pentile screen. I did notice a difference between that screen and this one but it isn't a deal breaker. A pentile screen at a 720p Res on a 5 inch screen wouldnt noticeable whatsoever. The difference was minimal at 480p. I doubt you'd be able to tell a difference at a high res like that.
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You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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Edit: Already saw benchmarks of both the international one and the u.s. version and exynos wins in benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=SSicyj9hbwc
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try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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it won't be very different on the international S3 either because our OS doesn't even utilize all 4 cores correctly..... and wouldn't 2gb ram be better for multitasking given that the OS optimizes with the utilization of 2 cores.
It might eat up numbers and crunch in more numbers per second but it can't do more things at once than its supposed to. The Intel i3 is a dual core but it's limited to two threads I think and if that use the case do is the core duo. Even though numbers might be able to conceive at the right time if the processes were not stream independent, important things like talking recording downloading streaming and torrent cannot be done any better with a resume boost.
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guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
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guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
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people would want to pay another 600 even if it was just a 5% boost.
After the galaxy line I'm sticking with the nexus. This is wack to have such great hardware and outdated software with bloat
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I love the HOX+ its a great phone, but i also love the features of the Note II. I just recently got a contract with At&t and have a few days left to decide if i wanna keep the HOX+ or switch for something else. Only other phone i would switch with is the Note II or just wait for the Nexus 4. But the thing i'm worried about(which i'm having the same concerns with most phones) is At&t versions hardly getting any support when international(waaay more expensive versions) get the best roms, mods, etc. Any opinions on this matter would help.......thanx
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I love the HOX+ its a great phone, but i also love the features of the Note II. I just recently got a contract with At&t and have a few days left to decide if i wanna keep the HOX+ or switch for something else. Only other phone i would switch with is the Note II or just wait for the Nexus 4. But the thing i'm worried about(which i'm having the same concerns with most phones) is At&t versions hardly getting any support when international(waaay more expensive versions) get the best roms, mods, etc. Any opinions on this matter would help.......thanx
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I had the HOX+ and even though it's a nice phone. I keep coming back to the Note 2. I honestly believe that you'll be happy with the Note 2 for the simple fact that even though AT&T is slow with updates. Everything from the International version is able to be ported over to us, and there are some busy Devs at the moment keeping us happy.
Here is the order of phones I just tried... Note 2 --- IP5 ---- Note 2 ---- HOX+ ---- Note 2 ----- IP5 ----- Optimus G ---- NOTE 2... and I'm keeping it for a while this time LOL!
Lots of cool ROMs with the att gn2. I would not let that deter you from getting the phone. Be more concerned about the size and screen quality. The HTC one x+ has a killer screen!
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All the Note IIs are so similar. We will see a lot of international ROMs and plenty on the AT&T base. Check out the dev section. Anything with Multi-View is a port from the international version. Plus it probably won't be long until there is a really easy way to port your own ROM of choice. On the GS II they called it Hell-Raise. It was a two step process: flash what ever international version you wanted, then flash a tiny package that made the right changes. And that was with phones with different button layouts, and some weird physical microphone differences. The 317 and 7105 are virtually identical.
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I was one that got burned by HTC with the Inspire4G/DesireHD (saying they'll support and put out ICS then decide to not). I will never get another HTC phone again... Super happy with my Note II
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I was one that got burned by HTC with the Inspire4G/DesireHD (saying they'll support and put out ICS then decide to not). I will never get another HTC phone again... Super happy with my Note II
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The number of people that don't feel burned by HTC in one way or another gets smaller each day. Whether its being obsoeleted with a new flagship after just a few months, or promised updates that never arrive, or both (the One X is still on the list for JB right?).
Being on a Samsung phone again is like breathing fresh air again.
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I played with a HOX+ the other day and despite the fact that is a much faster phone on paper, my Note 2 just felt WAY faster and smoother. I'm extremely happy I got this instead. Touchwiz is super light and very fast on here.
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Sell your HTC One X+ before HTC releases the One X++ and makes the resale value of your phone utter sh*t. This is from a HTC One X owner who is still trying to sell this phone.
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I played with a HOX+ the other day and despite the fact that is a much faster phone on paper, my Note 2 just felt WAY faster and smoother. I'm extremely happy I got this instead. Touchwiz is super light and very fast on here.
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Exactly HOW is the HOX+ "much faster on paper"? The extra 100mhz over the 1.6ghz in the Note 2? If you think the hox+ is much faster than the note 2 even on paper then you have very little knowledge of mobile hardware- Tegra 3 can suck my bojangles. You do realize the HOX+ only has 1gb of ram too? In virtually every comparison done, the quad exynos has dominated Tegra 3, even the higher clocked new Tegra 3 is killed by the quad exynos. I don't see any spec where it's "much faster" than the note 2,in fact, the only spec it "wins" in is internal storage.
The only devices that give the quad exynos 4412 a run for its money are the quad kraits and even then the exynos wins in many benchmarks/usage scenarios that the majority of people care about. (the only benchmark the hox+ sometimes beats the note 2 in is quadrant and it's not by much. Sun spider, antutu, geek bench all go to note 2- quadrant is heavily reflective of gaming performance only whereas the others are more demonstrative of daily use.)
Go to engadget and read the Nexus 4 review. They compare the note 2 to the Optimus G and Nexus 4. Go see how the exynos did- the devices it beat would dominate the hox+.
I'm shocked you think the hox+ is faster in *any* category- on paper or not. Half the ram, crappy processor... Yea.
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Exactly HOW is the HOX+ "much faster on paper"? The extra 100mhz over the 1.6ghz in the Note 2? If you think the hox+ is much faster than the note 2 even on paper then you have very little knowledge of mobile hardware- Tegra 3 can suck my bojangles. You do realize the HOX+ only has 1gb of ram too? In virtually every comparison done, the quad exynos has dominated Tegra 3, even the higher clocked new Tegra 3 is killed by the quad exynos. I don't see any spec where it's "much faster" than the note 2,in fact, the only spec it "wins" in is internal storage.
The only devices that give the quad exynos 4412 a run for its money are the quad kraits and even then the exynos wins in many benchmarks/usage scenarios that the majority of people care about. (the only benchmark the hox+ sometimes beats the note 2 in is quadrant and it's not by much. Sun spider, antutu, geek bench all go to note 2- quadrant is heavily reflective of gaming performance only whereas the others are more demonstrative of daily use.)
Go to engadget and read the Nexus 4 review. They compare the note 2 to the Optimus G and Nexus 4. Go see how the exynos did- the devices it beat would dominate the hox+.
I'm shocked you think the hox+ is faster in *any* category- on paper or not. Half the ram, crappy processor... Yea.
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Oh hell man...tell him how you really feel...lol...lol...lol
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Exactly HOW is the HOX+ "much faster on paper"? The extra 100mhz over the 1.6ghz in the Note 2? If you think the hox+ is much faster than the note 2 even on paper then you have very little knowledge of mobile hardware- Tegra 3 can suck my bojangles. You do realize the HOX+ only has 1gb of ram too? In virtually every comparison done, the quad exynos has dominated Tegra 3, even the higher clocked new Tegra 3 is killed by the quad exynos. I don't see any spec where it's "much faster" than the note 2,in fact, the only spec it "wins" in is internal storage.
The only devices that give the quad exynos 4412 a run for its money are the quad kraits and even then the exynos wins in many benchmarks/usage scenarios that the majority of people care about. (the only benchmark the hox+ sometimes beats the note 2 in is quadrant and it's not by much. Sun spider, antutu, geek bench all go to note 2- quadrant is heavily reflective of gaming performance only whereas the others are more demonstrative of daily use.)
Go to engadget and read the Nexus 4 review. They compare the note 2 to the Optimus G and Nexus 4. Go see how the exynos did- the devices it beat would dominate the hox+.
I'm shocked you think the hox+ is faster in *any* category- on paper or not. Half the ram, crappy processor... Yea.
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Dude... calm down lol. I was referring to the quadrant benchmarks. Engadet did a review of this device and it destroyed all on that test. It also did a little better than the Note 2 on a couple other tests. I did however forget that it only has 1 GB of ram. It seems like every flagship phone that comes out has 2 GB so i assumed that HTC would be smart and follow suit.But like I already said, using the device it feels very slow compared to my Note 2 despite the higher clock speed. The Note 2 is DEFINITELY a better buy.
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Benchmarks don't mean ANYTHING ,other things are more important. .
Also there isn't much difference between them in performance
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Benchmarks don't mean ANYTHING ,other things are more important. .
Also there isn't much difference between them in performance
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I dont think its fair to say benchmarks mean NOTHING...they have a story to tell as well, friend.
I personally came from the ONEX to the N2, and I gotta say, I can never go back to HTC....
I think the HTC is built a little more solid, but other than that I pick the note 2 for everything else.
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HTC typically has good build quality on the outside. They have a premium feel. Other than that they are inferior in every way to Samsungs latest devices. Just my opinion. I think they are much better then they use to be but still not quite on Samsungs level.
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As bananas as the other fella went, I doubt it would compete with the note. RAM is pretty significant.
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HTC typically has good build quality on the outside. They have a premium feel. Other than that they are inferior in every way to Samsungs latest devices. Just my opinion. I think they are much better then they use to be but still not quite on Samsungs level.
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As an ex-HD2 owner I completely disagree. HTC is only going downhill and their market share and share prices reflect that.
Since the Nexus 4 was mentioned in the OP: I had the Nexus 4 for about two weeks and it was definitely the faster than the Note 2 as far as interface goes. The Note 2 has some barely perceptible lag at times, but the Nexus 4 is instantaneous and comparable to the iPhone 5 in terms of UI response. This might simply be TouchWiz vs. no-skin and it's possible the Note 2 is just as fast on AOSP/AOKP.
I kept the Note 2 for the features, expandable storage, removable battery, battery life and since I needed something to replace my phone and tablet. If Google releases a 32GB Nexus 4 for $350/400 I would strongly consider it.
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As an ex-HD2 owner I completely disagree. HTC is only going downhill and their market share and share prices reflect that.
Since the Nexus 4 was mentioned in the OP: I had the Nexus 4 for about two weeks and it was definitely the faster than the Note 2 as far as interface goes. The Note 2 has some barely perceptible lag at times, but the Nexus 4 is instantaneous and comparable to the iPhone 5 in terms of UI response. This might simply be TouchWiz vs. no-skin and it's possible the Note 2 is just as fast on AOSP/AOKP.
I kept the Note 2 for the features, expandable storage, removable battery, battery life and since I needed something to replace my phone and tablet. If Google releases a 32GB Nexus 4 for $350/400 I would strongly consider it.
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I also had the N4 and the difference is pretty minimal. It is pretty much entirely Touchwiz, which offers way more featueres at the cost of some noticable lag.
With CM10 surely coming in a more fully functional manner shortly, the Note II will be just as fast (if not faster) than the N4.
I wouldn't compare those 2 phones in any way, there is zero I was wowed about with the N4. I would rather have my Lumia 920 or GS3 back before the n4.
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I also had the N4 and the difference is pretty minimal. It is pretty much entirely Touchwiz, which offers way more featueres at the cost of some noticable lag.
With CM10 surely coming in a more fully functional manner shortly, the Note II will be just as fast (if not faster) than the N4.
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I thought the difference was noticeable though.
I don't think the Note 2 could be faster than the Nexus 4 if the latter has a custom kernel (e.g. franco's) to take care of the abysmal thermal throttling issue. The N4 just has faster core hardware.
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I thought the difference was noticeable though.
I don't think the Note 2 could be faster than the Nexus 4 if the latter has a custom kernel (e.g. franco's) to take care of the abysmal thermal throttling issue. The N4 just has faster core hardware.
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It is definitely noticeable, Touchwiz is without question laggy compared to AOSP, no matter what phone you have or how hard you tweak it. This is the smoothest TW experience I have had though.
I think on even software it would be hard to see any performance difference of the N4 S4 1.5ghz quad vs the Note II's 1.6ghz Quad Exynos in the OS anyway. I will be surprised if CM10 (once closer to a finished product) is any slower than a stock N4 AOSP experience.
That all sad I'll take the minor TW lag over the N4's poor build quality (Humming, rattling, creaking), dull screen (doesn't have to be AMOLED saturated, but those colors are just bleh), poor battery life, slippery back, and onscreen buttons that hog up precious screen space. My personal opinion of course, YMMV.