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I know this has nothing to do with the kaiser, but I was wondering how you "go up in the ranks on this site" I've been a junior member for dumb long and I see people that have been members for a shorter period of time than me that are already senior members
It's an annual fee of $3409475345. Expensive, but worth it.
Seriously though, you have to hit 100 posts.
Ooooooooooh Ok thank you very much I was wondering.
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It's an annual fee of $3409475345. Expensive, but worth it.
Seriously though, you have to hit 100 posts.
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LOL You crazy that was a good one.
At 30 post the junior will drop off and then they will become a member and at 100 post you become a senior.
see i was wondering about this...
add that to the post count!
100th post for you! I knight you a Senior Member!
DRUGS...Responsible For Teaching America's Youth The Metric System!
That is BOMB! So funny...and so true!
In 8th grade my science teacher was trying to tell his class that the Metric system and the Standard system were incompatible and asked his class; "how many grams was in an ounce?"
My reply was "28 grams, 29 in the bag". His face turned red as he was a secret stoner~ He told me I was wrong but we all knew he was BS-ing...
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DRUGS...Responsible For Teaching America's Youth The Metric System!
That is BOMB! So funny...and so true!
In 8th grade my science teacher was trying to tell his class that the Metric system and the Standard system were incompatible and asked his class; "how many grams was in an ounce?"
My reply was "28 grams, 29 in the bag". His face turned red as he was a secret stoner~ He told me I was wrong but we all knew he was BS-ing...
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Ali G made a joke about it over here once, when he was interviewing some poor dupe.
The guy was one of these fellas that was up in arms about the increasing use of metric measures in Britain.
Ali asked him something to the effect of "So you fink dat schoolkids should be taught to use ounces, eighths, quarters and sixteenths?"
The guy unknowingly agreed to schoolchildren being taught to use these popular measures of hash!
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this thread can be deleted at the administrators discretion now.
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Sticky this thread! I swear, look at my 100th post I guarantee it was abzolutely pointless, pardon the principle that it WAS my 100tth!!
Do like some people around here and respond to threads by dividing up your thoughts into individual sentences, and then reply 50 times to a thread. This method is very popular among the members here.
Welcome to the esteemed league of Senior Members.
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I know this has nothing to do with the kaiser,
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You said it... So why you open this thread in "KAISER GENERAL" section??
Well! I thought with a title like that it was another reference to adult sites...
Thread has been moved to About xda-developers section.
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Do like some people around here and respond to threads by dividing up your thoughts into individual sentences, and then reply 50 times to a thread. This method is very popular among the members here.
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As far as I know, your post count is derived from how many original posts you made in separate threads. You can post as many times as you want in the same thread, however it won't pad your post count.
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As far as I know, your post count is derived from how many original posts you made in separate threads. You can post as many times as you want in the same thread, however it won't pad your post count.
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Not true. Most of my first 100 or so posts were helping noobs use Dutty's ROMs so I was always posting in the same few threads.
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todd737 said:
DRUGS...Responsible For Teaching America's Youth The Metric System!
That is BOMB! So funny...and so true!
In 8th grade my science teacher was trying to tell his class that the Metric system and the Standard system were incompatible and asked his class; "how many grams was in an ounce?"
My reply was "28 grams, 29 in the bag". His face turned red as he was a secret stoner~ He told me I was wrong but we all knew he was BS-ing...
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thats hilarious!
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thats hilarious!
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wow so much spam..
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wow so much spam..
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what u mean spam guy.. that was f'n funny.. so i expressed my opinion
I just wanted to make a point here, which I guess the admin must be unaware of.
Personally having been here at XDA since 2007, I still use the "XDA classic" skin. However I recently was using the "XDA 2010" skin, and noticed something unusual about the differences between the two skins when you report a post.
With XDA classic when you report a post it says this:
Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts.
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However with the XDA 2010 skin it notes something completely different:
So you want to report a post. Please read this first!
If a member is being unruly or offensive OR if you want to request that a post/thread be moved/deleted,
you MUST contact the specific moderator of this forum directly via PM. Do not use the form below.
Here is a list of forum-specific moderators. [Link to Google Document]
Please only submit this form if you are reporting a copyright violation or if someone has violated another XDA rule.
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..and obviously if you are using TapaTalk or the XDA app, you don't get either of these messages.
I don't know how long this message in the XDA 2010 skin has asked members to not use the report button for offensive posts or misplaced threads, but this is news to me.
Please advise.
This was only put in place in the last few weeks. It's there to prevent users using the RP form for trivial issues such as posts in the wrong forum, or minor flaming/trolling issues, that can all easily be solved by a PM to the moderator allocated to that specific forum.
I'll flag to the admin that it's missing from the classic template.
Thanks. This change seems like it will only serve to make these "trivial" type of infractions more acceptable. In my personal opinion it's these trivial infractions which are making some of the forums here more of a garbage dump than the great info sharing site that xda once was.
It shouldn't as far as I can see...the person reporting just has to PM the forum mod, rather than submit the report using the form...nothing is different with regards to what is acceptable or not.
But it's a system that's being tweaked so there may be more changes down the track.
Thanks for the explanation.
We'll update classic.
There are a lot of features that 2010 has that classic doesn't, because we really don't support classic anymore. It's there for those that want to use it, but our data shows that 95%+ of XDA users on 2010.
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our data shows that 95%+ of XDA users on 2010.
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That may be true, but my data also shows that 90% of all forum users on the internet use the default forum skin.
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That may be true, but my data also shows that 90% of all forum users on the internet use the default forum skin.
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The default skin for users is now XDA 2010 iirc. I believe you only get the old one if you were registered before that date.
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The default skin for users is now XDA 2010 iirc. I believe you only get the old one if you were registered before that date.
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That was kinda my point.
I'm glad the users like the 2010 skin, but xda just isn't the same to me without classic.
agree with indagroove. Chasing down forum mods via p.m. is quite a pain in the butt and there seems to be quite an increase in flaming/ language going on lately.
I don't even get the forum mod list, just that I need to contact the mod for the specific forum.
Too complicated now to bother, but it wouldn't suprise me to see people turned off of xda due to the flaming they are receiving just for asking questions.
You can just peruse the WP7 general forums to see how much flaming goes on (and the mods there have done a great job, but it gets out of hand quickly).
Just my 2 cents.
Why are you judging members by their post count?
For lack of a better alternative. I challenge anyone to come up with a better alternative, and share it with us. Over the years we have seen the impact the cluttering up of developmental fora had on the amount of energy needed to keep threads in shape or visible. This wasn't productive at all. We get that people might have experience from other fora and think this is a little over the top for them, but there are rarely any developers amongst the people that want to create new threads. There are a few people with a genuine need to post a thread in the developmental fora (developers), these people can contact a moderator to help them get sorted.
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I am an experienced Unix and Android user who has been on XDA for more than year. Then why less than 10 posts? I never needed to post, if i had questions i would search and get the answers. the problem began when i had to post in dev sections for questions or answers relating a particular roms.
i do understand why the limit exist and off-course u cant look into someone's eye and determine if he really is a spammer or an experienced dev.
So i came up with an alternative. the number 10 is fine . but it should be 10 posts + thanks + recomendations. Meaning... if i am a new registered user but an experienced dev. to get my 10 beers i would have to post usefull answers which would count as posts, but if someone clicks thanks it should could towards my 10 beers since it was a useful post. There should also be a "recommend me" button for all below 10 post users. where if other users recommend me for the 10+ group it counts to my 10 beers. So i could be allowed to post in dev section if i havw only 2 posts where i have been thanked by 5 users and recomended by 3 users. (5 +2+3) = 10 beers.... Let me know what you guys think
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This same logic can be used for promoting from Jr. Member to Member to Sr Member and so on.
you know i am a senior Member if i have only 20 posts but 80 people have THANKED them? just that unlike above recommendations wont exist here.
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I agree that it is easy to get the 10 posts. what my second part of the thread is that. we should consider giving credibility to folks who post better quality of posts which are actually quite helpful. please bear in mind that i am not trying to say that we should combine posts and thanks... what i am saying is a person who posted 80 posted and got 40 thanks for the same deserves more credibility than the user who posts 100 posts with no thanks at all. and that since the prior user has better quality of posts we should consider promoting him to Sr Member. (giving credibility for the quality of him posts.)
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I am an experienced Unix and Android user who has been on XDA for more than year. Then why less than 10 posts? I never needed to post, if i had questions i would search and get the answers. the problem began when i had to post in dev sections for questions or answers relating a particular roms.
i do understand why the limit exist and off-course u cant look into someone's eye and determine if he really is a spammer or an experienced dev.
So i came up with an alternative. the number 10 is fine . but it should be 10 posts + thanks + recomendations. Meaning... if i am a new registered user but an experienced dev. to get my 10 beers i would have to post usefull answers which would count as posts, but if someone clicks thanks it should could towards my 10 beers since it was a useful post. There should also be a "recommend me" button for all below 10 post users. where if other users recommend me for the 10+ group it counts to my 10 beers. So i could be allowed to post in dev section if i havw only 2 posts where i have been thanked by 5 users and recomended by 3 users. (5 +2+3) = 10 beers.... Let me know what you guys think
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This same logic can be used for promoting from Jr. Member to Member to Sr Member and so on.
you know i am a senior Member if i have only 20 posts but 80 people have THANKED them? just that unlike above recommendations wont exist here.
And whats with the 8 post limit for the signatures?
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i know that, but if you care to read the whole thing, you would know what i mean by 20 posts and 80 thanks (20 +80 =100)
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i know that, but if you care to read the whole thing, you would know what i mean by 20 posts and 80 thanks (20 +80 =100)
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It isn't difficult to get to ten posts. This is a community, not a support forum. We want to encourage members to participate here in order to join the community. That as well as a way to combat spam are the reasons behind the ten post rule.
I understand what you are saying, but it's pretty easy to get 10 posts. I mean I have been here for about a month and I have over 100 posts. Doesn't take long at all, all I do is reply to questions that I can answer and hopefully help with. It's one way I can help here because I am still working on developing and no where near as talented as some of the folks on here.
While its pretty easy to get ten posts its also pretty easy for us to catch the people who go about it the wrong way and show them the error of their ways.
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While its pretty easy to get ten posts its also pretty easy for us to catch the people who go about it the wrong way and show them the error of their ways.
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What about the promotions part of my essay? Again it may be easy to get 100 posts too, but hey... would'nt it be awarding to promote a user to Sr Member at 90 posts (plus considerable number of THANKS) because his 90 were better than the other users 100 post?
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What about the promotions part of my essay? Again it may be easy to get 100 posts too, but hey... would'nt it be awarding to promote a user to Sr Moderator at 90 posts (plus considerable number of THANKS) because his 90 were better than the other users 100 post?
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Well that would be a decision for the admins.
I assume you meant senior member not moderator.
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I assume you meant senior member not moderator.
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Yes, corrected in my post. Thanks for pointing that out.
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What about the promotions part of my essay? Again it may be easy to get 100 posts too, but hey... would'nt it be awarding to promote a user to Sr Member at 90 posts (plus considerable number of THANKS) because his 90 were better than the other users 100 post?
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Thanks count should remain separate from post count. The titles need reworking anyway, but your idea isn't half bad. Try raising the idea in the requests thread sticky.
Explain my post count , yes it's easy to get 10 posts
Herpderp Defy.
It may be easy to get the requisite 10 posts, but I still think his idea deserves consideration.
Though you'd really want a weighting system of some kind. For example, 1 post with 5 'thanks' counts as 2 posts, but with 10 'thanks' it counts as 4 posts. I don't know, something along those lines.
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It may be easy to get the requisite 10 posts, but I still think his idea deserves consideration.
Though you'd really want a weighting system of some kind. For example, 1 post with 5 'thanks' counts as 2 posts, but with 10 'thanks' it counts as 4 posts. I don't know, something along those lines.
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There is no reason to have the thanks count towards your posts. I'm in favor of it counting towards the meaningless titles that appear under your names, but that about it. It's really not that hard to get ten posts. I can't understand why you guys make it seem like the end of the world...
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There is no reason to have the thanks count towards your posts. I'm in favor of it counting towards the meaningless titles that appear under your names, but that about it. It's really not that hard to get ten posts. I can't understand why you guys make it seem like the end of the world...
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Maybe saying they should count as posts wasn't the right word, but having some kind of 'credibility' rating based on some weighted ratio of thanks to posts could certainly be a useful metric to determine someones ability to post in a restricted space.
I'd much rather have someone with 5 posts that has been thanked 30 times be allowed in a restricted section, over someone with 5000 posts and 30 thanks.
Of course, that all assumes people appropriately use the thanks system, so yeah.
I can't understand why people jump to hyperbole and assume some kind of personal attack is meant when others are merely attempting to discuss a topic of interest on a public forum. Weird, right?
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Maybe saying they should count as posts wasn't the right word, but having some kind of 'credibility' rating based on some weighted ratio of thanks to posts could certainly be a useful metric to determine someones ability to post in a restricted space.
I'd much rather have someone with 5 posts that has been thanked 30 times be allowed in a restricted section, over someone with 5000 posts and 30 thanks.
Of course, that all assumes people appropriately use the thanks system, so yeah.
I can't understand why people jump to hyperbole and assume some kind of personal attack is meant when others are merely attempting to discuss a topic of interest on a public forum. Weird, right?
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The bottom line here is that we want members to actively involve themselves in the community, gaining ten proper posts is a good way to encourage this.
Theres also the issue of the thanks meter being essentially meaningless as someone could make two posts in off topic and easily gain ten thanks. (They'll thank anything in there )
I don't foresee a change to this rule anytime soon but I dare say that if changes are considered further down the line then this will probably come up for discussion.
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Maybe saying they should count as posts wasn't the right word, but having some kind of 'credibility' rating based on some weighted ratio of thanks to posts could certainly be a useful metric to determine someones ability to post in a restricted space.
I'd much rather have someone with 5 posts that has been thanked 30 times be allowed in a restricted section, over someone with 5000 posts and 30 thanks.
Of course, that all assumes people appropriately use the thanks system, so yeah.
I can't understand why people jump to hyperbole and assume some kind of personal attack is meant when others are merely attempting to discuss a topic of interest on a public forum. Weird, right?
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Once again, there is no reason to combine the thanks by any means into post count. I know what you are suggesting, but it isn't a good idea. weighting post count by means of thanks is opening the doors that were just closed for more spam. Why do you guys not see how simple it is to gain ten posts? Why would you not want to be a part of this community? That's what it's all about.
Also, I did not personally attack you at any point during either response, nor did I take your posts as attacks. Just because I point out flaws in your idea doesn't mean I dislike you as a person, just your one, singular idea by itself. Please remain civil.
I agree that it is easy to get the 10 posts. what my second part of the thread is that. we should consider giving credibility to folks who post better quality of posts which are actually quite helpful. please bear in mind that i am not trying to say that we should combine posts and thanks... what i am saying is a person who posted 80 posted and got 40 thanks for the same deserves more credibility than the user who posts 100 posts with no thanks at all. and that since the prior user has better quality of posts we should consider promoting him to Sr Member. (giving credibility for the quality of him posts.)
While I understand what you're saying, I don't think it's fair to judge a member on other members' use of the thanks button. You still see plenty of people actually posting "thanks", and not clicking it.
This can't be quanitified so it would be unfair.
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I agree that it is easy to get the 10 posts. what my second part of the thread is that. we should consider giving credibility to folks who post better quality of posts which are actually quite helpful. please bear in mind that i am not trying to say that we should combine posts and thanks... what i am saying is a person who posted 80 posted and got 40 thanks for the same deserves more credibility than the user who posts 100 posts with no thanks at all. and that since the prior user has better quality of posts we should consider promoting him to Sr Member. (giving credibility for the quality of him posts.)
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The problem with that is only that the titles under the names are as meaningless as the thanks count. Just because it says Senior Member, that doesn't really get you any new amount of respect or anything. It doesn't let you post in any new forums. It's just a title change.
We've long argued for a better title system here. We've also long been ignored on it. We've previously stated that this system that you are proposing is very much open to excessive abuse. The other thing is that simply making someone a Senior Member has absolutely no benefits whatsoever.
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The other thing is that simply making someone a Senior Member has absolutely no benefits whatsoever.
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I agree. At 35xx posts They should call you the same as what they would name a person with 100 posts. the title system certainly need a big revamp.
Hi everyone, a while ago on my old XDA account I noticed that there was a place where people posted to sell their phones. I have an android phone that I would like to sell, but I can't seem to find out where that is! It was called, wanting to sell or something like that..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476
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Hi everyone, a while ago on my old XDA account I noticed that there was a place where people posted to sell their phones. I have an android phone that I would like to sell, but I can't seem to find out where that is! It was called, wanting to sell or something like that..?
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New users cannot see that forum. It is restricted to member accounts older than one year and with over 50 posts. You need 38 more posts, then you'll be able to sell your devices here next year in April 2013.
Really. Why is that? I had my old account with a couple hundred posts and I had it for 5 months and I could view that forum. I'm not sure why experience in the forum is needed to sell my phone lol.
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Really. Why is that? I had my old account with a couple hundred posts and I had it for 5 months and I could view that forum. I'm not sure why experience in the forum is needed to sell my phone lol.
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Rules were needed to try to cut down on the amount of scams that were happening. The new rules were implemented the middle of last month. If your other account is only 5 months old then you still can't use that forum even with the other account for another 7 months.
Ohh OK thanks. When I go to the page it tells me I either need 10 posts (which I just got) or an admin needs to activate my account if I have the posts.
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Ohh OK thanks. When I go to the page it tells me I either need 10 posts (which I just got) or an admin needs to activate my account if I have the posts.
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That's just an automated message. It lies. The new rules are listed below. Rule #7-b is the one that applies to you.
Link to announcement dated 15 March 2012.
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The Legal Stuff
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The XDA-Developers.com Marketplace, also known as MP, is provided free to members with at least 8 posts at XDA-Developers.com. XDA-Developers.com, its moderators, administrators, owners, legal advisors and all other related parties do not warrant, guarantee or endorse any item offered for sale or trade on this forum.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: Trade at your own Risk. XDA-Developers is not and will not get involved in transactions whatsoever.
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The MP is for use by private parties only, do not post commercial links (SPAM) or links to private sales taking place on other sites ie: eBay, Craigsist, etc. The MP is intended for the sale of your personal phones and/or accessories. It is not intended as a sales platform for operating a business.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: No Business links allowed. No off-site sales allowed. Personal use only
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All transactions must take place in the public forum; use of the Private Message (PM) system to buy/sell/trade is against MP rules. Use of the PM system to convey private information, shipping address and payment details is acceptable.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: If you trade by PM how do you know the person you are buying from isn't selling the same item to 10 people? Keep all deals in the open.
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a. XDA-Developers allows the following items to be offered for Sale/Trade:
Mobile Phones including Tablet devices and directly related Accessories ONLY.
b. we do not allow items to be offered for Sale/Trade that are stolen, thought to be stolen, or of questionable history. For the avoidance of doubt, phones with a "bad ESN" or which are network barred are NOT permitted to be on the marketplace.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: Don't sell anything but phones / accessories and ensure they are not stolen.
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Do not send money by any means that you cannot track or recover. Sending money via Western Union is a known scamming method and although it may be necessary due to country restrictions it is not recommended.
a. XDA-Developers recommends the use of PayPal® or another secure method of transferring money.
b. XDA-Developers is not responsible for transactions gone "bad". It is YOUR responsibility to know with whom you are dealing, and YOU assume all responsibility for the transaction.
In addition, the use of PayPal gift payments is not permitted on deals conducted on XDA. Specifically relevant to sellers, but applicable to everyone in general, you must not request any additional payment to cover PayPal fees. Doing either of the above is in breach of the PayPal terms and conditions.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: Use PayPal® whenever possible. You are responsible for your own actions.
Do not use PayPal gift payments, as these offer no protection. Do not ask the buyer to cover PayPal fees.
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By posting on the MP you agree that you have read, understand and will abide by these rules.
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a. You may sell 5 devices per month maximum (each device must be in a new thread).
b. All current registered members will be able to use the marketplace regardless of tenure on the site or number of posts. New members will NOT be able to use the marketplace until they accrue 50 posts and one year of XDA membership.
c. If you are selling or offering to trade, you must take a photo of the phone with XDA as a backdrop on your screen with your username clearly showing
d. If you are selling, you may only sell an absolutely maximum of five devices per month, and each listing must be contained with its own thread.
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ok thanks, yea i really wanted to sell my HTC phone, and XDA is the perfect place to sell it since theres so many people using it, but I guess I'll have to go somewhere else
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ok thanks, yea i really wanted to sell my HTC phone, and XDA is the perfect place to sell it since theres so many people using it, but I guess I'll have to go somewhere else
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eBay or Craigslist are two other popular place to offload devices..
Wait. I can access the forum, but I joined in October 2011.... Care to explain please?
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Wait. I can access the forum, but I joined in October 2011.... Care to explain please?
Sent from my Sense 4.0 Glacier using XDA Premium.
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Read 7-b.
Suggestions/Alternatives
*Change 10 post to x number of thanks - Pros : It would take longer for users to gain access to development forums. - Cons : Users will beg for thanks more and possibly spam thanks to help each other gain access.
*Complete a quiz during registration - Pros : Could possibly reduce the number of people allowed in development forums. - Cons : Too hard because different people have different levels of knowledge + couldn't be multiple choice because too easy to get around.
*Let OPs of dev threads delete posts - Pros : Cut down on the useless posts. - Cons : Won't happen because only mods/admins will have ability to delete posts. Devs could show favouritism + take too much of the devs time to delete posts.
*Review posts before they appear in development - Pros : If possible, no crap would appear in dev threads. - Cons : Not possible because of the massive workload on the manpower of the mods.
*Deny access to Off-topic until user has 10 posts - Pros : Stops a lot of people posting there to get to 10 posts. - Cons : Users will be more likely to spam in the device forums instead.
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Alternative to 10 post rule
I'm creating this thread as a place to centralize all alternative ideas to the 10 post rule.
Obviously, a lot of different suggestions have been made over the time and we've been told that the admins won't change the rule unless a better solution can be proven to work.
So if you have any suggestions as to what could be used instead of needing 10 posts to post in development, then post your idea in here.
*If you're not sure why there is a limit to post in development, read the following thread - Postcount limit in developmental fora
*If you want to moan about the rule, don't post it anywhere on this site as we've heard it all before.
*Need to help someone in a development thread? Or give developer a logcat? Private Message them. It exists
*If you have less than 10 posts, don't post here UNLESS you are suggesting a different alternative.
*NOTE* As mods, senior mods and admins may be checking in here, don't use this thread to try and gain your first 10 posts because your comment will most likely be deleted.
While this is a great idea, the thread will be bombarded by those that want to raise their post count The larger issue wouild be with the spam to 10ers. The present method found by most new users.
What about 5 thanks rule? Instead of 10 posts get 5 thanks?
"The past is dead, it was all just a dream" - Magus (Chrono Trigger)
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What about 5 thanks rule? Instead of 10 posts get 5 thanks?
"The past is dead, it was all just a dream" - Magus (Chrono Trigger)
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Only problem w 5 thanks is that not everyone hits the thanks button.
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Only problem w 5 thanks is that not everyone hits the thanks button.
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So it will take some time to get permission to post in development section.In that time,we can hope they will get some perspective of xda-developers.
There is one huge drawback,that they might post some clever/funny things and get a lot of thanks for those posts.
So they can score 1 post and 10 thanks ->get permission to post in development section.:/
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While this is a great idea, the thread will be bombarded by those that want to raise their post count The larger issue wouild be with the spam to 10ers. The present method found by most new users.
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Most likely but we'll just report and move on
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Only problem w 5 thanks is that not everyone hits the thanks button.
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This is true. I think for a thanks count to work, people would need to be further educated about using the features available around this site. But at that point, would a limit oh development really be needed?
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KidCarter93 said:
Most likely but we'll just report and move on
This is true. I think for a thanks count to work, people would need to be further educated about using the features available around this site. But at that point, would a limit oh development really be needed?
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On the flip side you would have 10 thankers, just the opposite of a 10 posters that posting useless things
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On the flip side you would have 10 thankers, just the opposite of a 10 posters that posting useless things
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I don't think that would happen to be honest. The only time we really see anything like that is when puppy accounts are thanking a main account. But then the accounts get banned anyway because of breaking the rules.
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neectron said:
So it will take some time to get entry to development section.In that time,we can hope they will get some perspective of xda-developers.
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No, they will have access, they simply can not post there until they reach the required min.
I'm not sure why this always tends to be an issue... I have always been one to send people to Q&A anyway. Q&A DOES NOT STAND for Quips and Assumptions
I was thinking something more along the lines of an open book type mini test. Have a Thread / Post with important information about being a forum member, the rules, and basic guidelines. Make it a requirement that they read said Post / Thread before posting in the development section. Then must answer 10 questions. Make the questions random, and revolving. So even if you have two people trying it next to each other, they will be different tests. But make sure the answers to the questions are in the Thread / Post. Also to keep it interesting make them have to use the search function ( which would be rigged to lead them back to the Post / Thread ) to answer at least half of the questions. Anyways just a thought.
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I still don't understand why a new member absolutely needs post in a development thread.
- If there's a bug in a ROM/Kernel/Mod/etc, PM the developer. They're not going to sift through hundreds of pages to find your post.
- If you are a developer, help people in any other section of the site. It should be easy for you, since you are a developer.
- If you have a question, post in Q&A.
- If you want to say thanks, hit the Thanks button in the OP of the developer's thread.
It's really not a huge deal to get 10 posts. I don't know why people are complaining. Introduce yourself, post a screenshot of your homescreen, talk about your favorite device, show off your accessories, post in Offtopic. Do SOMETHING.
Ok folks, just to let you know, I have subscribed to this thread and will be looking with interest at any ideas posted. I will reply to the more serious suggestions and I will delete posts by those wishing to boost their post count
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I believe that we should do away with the ten post rule, since as earlier mentioned it is a piece of cake to reach ten posts.
Instead I propose a few alternatives, working on what has already been suggested:
1. Before allowing posts, ask the member a question about that topic itself, not just to check their overall developer knowledge.
2. Look for the number of helpful threads they have created AND have got positive feedback, not just their posts on other threads
3. Check for the spread of thanks,
i.e. differentiating a person with 100 likes from one funny post from someone with 2 likes or so over several posts.
This way we can judge a person's overall helpfulness to the community and whether they have something useful to contribute
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ramnex said:
I believe that we should do away with the ten post rule, since as earlier mentioned it is a piece of cake to reach ten posts.
Instead I propose a few alternatives, working on what has already been suggested:
1. Before allowing posts, ask the member a question about that topic itself, not just to check their overall developer knowledge.
2. Look for the number of helpful threads they have created AND have got positive feedback, not just their posts on other threads
3. Check for the spread of thanks,
i.e. differentiating a person with 100 likes from one funny post from someone with 2 likes or so over several posts.
This way we can judge a person's overall helpfulness to the community and whether they have something useful to contribute
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Hmm tough this is tough. 1. I came to XDA w/ 0 developer knowledge. Still know very little. However I tend to use Q&A untill I feel comfortable enough to post in Development
2. My first helpful thread didn't come until I was here, well over a year.
Points are good, but as I've shown, many people are different.
neectron said:
There is one huge drawback,that they might post some clever/funny things and get a lot of thanks for those posts.
So they can score 1 post and 10 thanks -> entry to development section.:/
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I don't think this as a drawback...
Because, usually those who do use thanks button are educated enough or members with atleast 30 or more who knows that they are new users who are trying to be funny to get thanks..(this thinking comes if you have thanks count as restrictions for Dev section)
Also , the new user was able to get enough thanks(say ,10 thanks) from very less posts.. that would suggest he is clever enough to get it... so, it would also mean that the user is clever enough how to post in development section? I mean, if you know enough to get thanks from community which has been here all the time..
The drawbacks I see in this method are, 1. People already ask for thanks.. it would get into a point where people may beg for thanks and such threads may also appear as they used to appear in OT before thanks was taken down..
2. Also, puppy account count may rise, even though it will be taken down.. more work for admins thus..
3. I feel the complaints from new users will be more if this is the case.. as no one can't reach 10 thanks that easily... I mean I feel it would be atleast 20 posts for an avg user to get 10 thanks.. so, more whining..
I don't have a better answer as solution though.. but thanks limit could be really better than the 10 post rule IMO.. because this way the one word posters to get to 10 posts will be eliminated.. as well as spammers who try to get 10 posts as well.. all those link posting ban until 10 posts and other rules can be applied on this too.. so I feel this might be more efficient in keeping people from spamming... and inexperienced users will get enough idea and knowledge to post in development section instead of making a fool of themselves and getting flamed by others or something.. well, that's just my thoughts..
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KidCarter93 said:
I don't think that would happen to be honest. The only time we really see anything like that is when puppy accounts are thanking a main account. But then the accounts get banned anyway because of breaking the rules.
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True but there are those that would try to work around it as you said, if there was a way around that then it is very possible that the thank count could work along with the post count that xxlordxx mentioned.
You have to remember, it simply isn't possible for us mods to read each post and approve it before it's allowed in Dev threads. Baring in mind we have 40k users per day and 2-3k new users per day
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You have to remember, it simply isn't possible for us mods to read each post and approve it before it's allowed in Dev threads. Baring in mind we have 40k users per day and 2-3k new users per day
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So very true
KidCarter93 said:
I don't think that would happen to be honest. The only time we really see anything like that is when puppy accounts are thanking a main account. But then the accounts get banned anyway because of breaking the rules.
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Look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107187 and the stupid phone isn't even released yet and it isn't like the OP is thank you free either!