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All,
I've decided that rather than start attacking some of the forum users whose conduct I don't agree with, I'd write an opinion and a suggestion.
Let me start by saying, that I love XDA. Before I became a member, I spent countless hours reading through threads on these forums. Admittedly, prior to discovering the Nexus One I was an iPhone user, and apple fanboy. I can honestly say that XDA helped cure me of that.
I am not a developer. I use these forums as a method of learning how to enhance my phone; to build a working knowledge of Android; with a hope to one day I will be able to repay the Devs who helped me with original work of my own. Lately, as many people have already stated, I've noticed that the quality of discussion in many forum threads has gone down significantly. The mods do an excellent job of keeping threads on topic, and cleaning useless posts, however, I think its getting to be too much for them. This is my attempt to provide advice to new users, and to suggest a possible course of action to help correct the conduct that is a cancer on this great site.
I've seen threads where Dev's are threatened if they don't release ROMs, where people demand ETAs. Team Hacksung, who worked tirelessly to release CM7 for the SGS2 actually had to threaten to leave XDA to bring order to their development thread. I've also seen threads degrade into rascism and discrimination, threats of violence and bigotry. None of this is acceptable, and will serve no other goal than forcing developers to leave XDA.
People need to understand a few things:
[*] Dev's work is done on their own free-time
[*] Dev's work is done for no compensation other than the gratitude of their peers and the occasional donation.
[*] Dev's are under no obligation to release ANYTHING to the members of XDA - If they don't feel their work is ready, or they aren't ready to share it, you have no right to demand it released.
[*] Access to Dev work is a privilege that can easily be revoked; NOT A RIGHT.
In addition to the excellent and trying job that the moderators already undertake, I suggest the following apply to anyone not recognized as a developer:
[*] There is a 3 strike rule with regards to posting in each development section. Any posts deemed to be off-topic, not-relevant, hateful, malicious, rascist, etc should be deemed a strike. I would not include obvious jokes, sincere mistakes, attempts to be helpful, etc as a strike. My goal is not to discourage participation, but to discourage comments designed to be harmful.
[*]Strike 1 is a warning, Strike 2 is a one week ban from posting within the development forums, strike 3 is a permanent ban from posting within the development forums.
Moderators would be responsible for determining what is a strike based on a pre-determined criteria.
My 2c, take it or leave it..
C0mbe
"In a perfect world..."
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"In a perfect world..."
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This is an internet forum, not the world... you can be as punitive as you like...
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I think your suggestions are too lenient. In the six years I've been here, the mods have only gotten more and more lax in the rules with the influx of Android users. It used to be that if you said something retarded or offensive, it was an automatic ban. Now, it seems as though it takes an act of congress to get an abusive user removed. Don't worry, though. Their are some changes coming soon that will help out tremendously.
Rule with an Iron Fist!!!
I agree and it's quite simple. Have respect and decency toward others and remember this is a "family oriented" site/community and that needs to be respected. I have stated my advice elsewhere in the forums that XDA needs to start ruling with an "IRON FIST" and keep this site enjoyabe and respectable as it should be. I stand behind that and always will. It is the best way to run the forums otherwise it will turn into a battleground of idiots envoking arguments, name calling, etc. I personally take offense to people who attack others in the forums and elsewhere on XDA. I have probably gotten a little out of line in the past a couple of times but that was due to others' attacks and flaming.
If you feel you should be allowed freedom of speech and explicit visual interpretation/expressionon on XDA, then this isn't the community for you. XDA holds the right to moderate it's site and forums as they see fit. In this case XDA chooses to run a family friendly site instead of a free-for-all slugfest site and I'm in favor of that. This is not directed to anyone in particular, nor do I pass judgement on anybody it's just my thoughts. Leave the hate/foul mouth comments in your world not here @XDA.
I think XDA is the best "go-to" site for all smartphone development needs and resources and that is how everybody should want to keep it. I bet most of you will agree. Do your part by helping and respecting others AT ALL TIMES. Please don't post hate comments, intentional troll provoking/explicit behavior/expressions, hateful/attitude remarks here at XDA.
Thanks for reading.
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This is an internet forum, not the world... you can be as punitive as you like...
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I didn't want to elaborate, but meh I'm bored. You are not the first to post about this, and won't be the last. It will get buried, and life will go on. I mean, there was already a thread about this in this very forum... and it's one of the top 5 right now.
It's a world wide forum. People will post stuff you don't like. PM a moderator and tell them about it and move on. Or use the ignore list. There are new users both new to phones AND the internet/computers. They will make mistakes and ask questions (ETAs and such). At the end of the day, it's the internet. Does it really bother you so much that someone "demanded" an ETA? Made a disrespectful comment?
An old saying works wonders here. If I had $1 for every "XDA is dying" post, I'd be very wealthy.
P.S. I also heard that the sky is falling.
cajunflavoredbob said:
I think your suggestions are too lenient. In the six years I've been here, the mods have only gotten more and more lax in the rules with the influx of Android users. It used to be that if you said something retarded or offensive, it was an automatic ban. Now, it seems as though it takes an act of congress to get an abusive user removed. Don't worry, though. Their are some changes coming soon that will help out tremendously.
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Yes, bans! bans! more bans! RAWR BANHAMMER. That's the way to encourage growth. Everyone knows that a police state is what is needed.
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I didn't want to elaborate, but meh I'm bored. You are not the first to post about this, and won't be the last. It will get buried, and life will go on. I mean, there was already a thread about this in this very forum... and it's one of the top 5 right now.
It's a world wide forum. People will post stuff you don't like. PM a moderator and tell them about it and move on. Or use the ignore list. There are new users both new to phones AND the internet/computers. They will make mistakes and ask questions (ETAs and such). At the end of the day, it's the internet. Does it really bother you so much that someone "demanded" an ETA? Made a disrespectful comment?
An old saying works wonders here. If I had $1 for every "XDA is dying" post, I'd be very wealthy.
P.S. I also heard that the sky is falling.
Yes, bans! bans! more bans! RAWR BANHAMMER. That's the way to encourage growth. Everyone knows that a police state is what is needed.
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This has nothing to do with site growth. It never has. If you break the rules, you get punished. It's that simple. You can try ignoring useless or inflaming comments all you want, but all that does is allow the behavior to continue. Obviously, catering to the behavior and becoming more lenient didn't work. The result is that the mods are now beginning to crack down harder again. This is the direction the site is now going. This site is about developers, not troubleshooting.
Users should learn manners and respect or go somewhere else. That's the main point. It isn't our job here to teach people the manners their parents could not. That's why the site isn't named XDA-Babysittingservice.com.
It the world wide web there are bound to be idiots out there. If they start banning these people there be just me and the mods left!!
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At the end of the day, it's the internet. Does it really bother you so much that someone "demanded" an ETA? Made a disrespectful comment?
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No, each and every demand for an ETA or disrespectful comment does not bother me that much, and of course I understand that its the internet. Its very easy to behave like an idiot when you are hiding behind pixels. Its really the totality of the circumstances that I am referring to. The object of XDA is for individuals to share development information with the common goal of improving Android phones. If the purpose of the site is lost in all the ETAs and disrespectful comments, then what is the point? Certainly, the point is not to lose developers...
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P.S. I also heard that the sky is falling.
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Call me whatever you like, your admission that there are multiple complaints like mine on each sub-forum is proof that there is a problem with member conduct on the site. And I did say that my OP was my own opinion, and my 2c.
github said:
Yes, bans! bans! more bans! RAWR BANHAMMER. That's the way to encourage growth. Everyone knows that a police state is what is needed.
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Who says you need a police state? I'm merely talking about adding rules to encourage and enforce order on the forums. And no one wants growth for the sake of growth. A small site that is efficient and has a high number of contributing members will always be better than a large site where the sheer volume of junk posts dilute the contributing members.
Plus, at the end of the day, all anyone really has on the internet is a voice. Thus, the ban remains the most effective method of controlling poor conduct.
It appears you guys have not read the site admins latest announcement...I advice u do
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It appears you guys have not read the site admins latest announcement...I advice u do
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That's fine and all. But does it address the time it takes to actually report problem posts (instead of just complain about them)? Having to PM forum mods that either gave up on your forum, or don't even visit that forum isn't exactly encouraging.
Or will the forums stop becoming void of moderators (like over in EVO 4G land, where I can't remember the last time we had moderator participation besides the banhammer here and there, or moved threads that I report). Will we start seeing more moderator participation?
Of course, my last posts here were worded to spark conversation (and that they did). I am happy to see this latest development, but still feel that it falls short of what is needed. Hopefully there is more in the works.
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That's fine and all. But does it address the time it takes to actually report problem posts (instead of just complain about them)? Having to PM forum mods that either gave up on your forum, or don't even visit that forum isn't exactly encouraging.
Or will the forums stop becoming void of moderators (like over in EVO 4G land, where I can't remember the last time we had moderator participation besides the banhammer here and there, or moved threads that I report). Will we start seeing more moderator participation?
Of course, my last posts here were worded to spark conversation (and that they did). I am happy to see this latest development, but still feel that it falls short of what is needed. Hopefully there is more in the works.
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The report system is being reworked. The site improvements will take some time to roll out fully. Things are going back to the earlier days here. Everyone needs to learn how to act right or reap what they sow.
github said:
That's fine and all. But does it address the time it takes to actually report problem posts (instead of just complain about them)? Having to PM forum mods that either gave up on your forum, or don't even visit that forum isn't exactly encouraging.
Or will the forums stop becoming void of moderators (like over in EVO 4G land, where I can't remember the last time we had moderator participation besides the banhammer here and there, or moved threads that I report). Will we start seeing more moderator participation?
Of course, my last posts here were worded to spark conversation (and that they did). I am happy to see this latest development, but still feel that it falls short of what is needed. Hopefully there is more in the works.
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The report system is being reworked. The site improvements will take some time to roll out fully. Things are going back to the earlier days here. Everyone needs to learn how to act right or reap what they sow.
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What he said
Thanks. I actually moved this into it's own post/question, as it is kind of offtopic from what OP was discussing.
RC-RT Mission Statement
As Recognized Contributors/Themers, we are challenged with the purpose of aiding development, offering assistance and above all, embodying the Spirit of XDA.
Contributing to XDA-Developers is more than simply delivering ROMs, mods and themes and by posting and behaving in a modest and exemplary way, we aim to influence and encourage other users to conduct themselves with friendliness and co-operation.
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So over on the Recognized Contributors forum, it has become clear that most members of XDA don't know that you can apply for the title of Recognized Contributor (RC). I have also included the same for Recognized themer, as I am assuming that it's not well known that you can apply.
What is a Recognized Contributor?
Recognized Contributor is a role intended for members who produce some of the best original and helpful guides for users, as well as helping other users who have problems, in a friendly manner. Recognized Contributors will get a custom user title and the faster ad-free XDA template, as well as access to developer tools currently being created. Any Moderator and or Status-ed Holder on XDA can forward a Nomination to the Committee, should they feel the Individual is deserving of this Status.What is a Recognized Themer?
Recognized Themers are those users who work (often tirelessly) on designing new theme graphics and user interface overhauls for ROMs. Users who aspire to be Recognized Themers should be creating original graphics work for their themes being released, demonstrate a commitment to crediting other users’ work when applicable, and seek the relevant permission in advance from the original creator. Recognized Themers will receive a custom user title and the faster ad-free XDA template, as well as access to developer tools currently being created. Any Moderator and or Status-ed Holder on XDA can forward a Nomination to the Committee, should they feel the Individual is deserving of this Status.Pre-requisites
1. Be a member for at least 1 year (following the XDA rules) with consistent and acceptable activity, upon review with the discretion of the Committee of acceptable months. Usually, 6-8 activity is acceptable.
2. Posted good original threads:
a. Threads that are guides/index/collective information.
b. OP of ROM threads and have good support within the ROM thread or via a separate thread in the Q&A section, and some activity in the Q&A section or other threads besides their own.
c. Place holder threads (discussions of home screens/ wallpapers / Off-Topic, etc) are NOT accepted.
Exception: A proper place holder for a new phone with details and other important information and further maintaining the Q&A on the device.
3. In case of no independent threads, the following may be accepted:
a. An FAQ (or support post) within a ROM thread.
b. Generally moving around from thread to thread to help members – the "Post Count Vs Thanks" could be used as a means to measure this.
4. Good quality general know-how around XDA forums (not necessarily developer standard)
5. Thanks count broadly expected given the forums they are in.
6. Posted regularly enough (complementing point 1) to provide continuous support or less frequently but good high-value support
7. Contribute to a good overall general atmosphere.
8. You have read, understood, and already adhere to the Updated 11/19/2018 Recognized Contributor Code of Conduct: https://www.xda-developers.com/recognized-contributor-code-of-conduct/
How can I apply?
NOTE: Please do not bother to apply if you have created accounts purely to boost your "thanks" count, if you got your buddies to thank all your posts or any other method of boosting thanks! We will know! If you have done this and still wish to apply please note this in your application and your honesty will be taken into account. An RC sets the example for following the rules..one of which is do not make more than one account!
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You can apply by sending your application via PM to:
A member of the RC-RT Committee:
Az BikerMr. Clownkarandprorangekid TNSMANI Clark Joseph Kent LeadRC-RT Liaison PG101
Any other Senior Moderator
Any FSM.
Any existing RC, who will pass on your application forward.
Choose whichever route you are more comfortable with, the end result is the same. All list of moderators can be found here.
The best way in which to apply through your PM
When you are writing your application, you will need to include:
A polite hello
Your username with a link to your username will want to check your history.
Why do you think you would make a good RC/RT, including a little about your time on XDA.
Links to your work including Guides, Ref, Roms, Projects, Apps(Themes for RT), etc
Do not forget to include 7/10 links of threads/posts which would be helpful in assessing your application.
A thank you for their time and goodbye (Manners are free)
Please note only apply once to one committee members, do not send 3 applications to 3 different committee members. Also be patient, the committee members are very busy people and have other work on XDA and in personal life. I would recommend a waiting time of upto a week; and if you receive no response within a week, then a reminder PM.
Please do not bombard the committee with PM's.
If you are having a problem with your application or you would like to appeal a decision made on your application, then you can contact the RC-RT Committee through PM.
If you do get accepted as an RC/RT then please come and visit the RC's forum and help contribute to our work and cause to make XDA a better place
If you have any questions then please ask, I or the other RC's/RT's will help in anyway we can.
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The general criteria is that a member should have been helpful, courteous and active commensurate to the forum one is mostly in. You will need to be an active member of XDA for 12 months or more.
While applying, please include 7-10 links/threads/posts that you think will help us decide on your application, effectively.
Cheers and good luck
PG101
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WHAT THIS THREAD IS NOT: A PLACE FOR PRE-ASSESSMENTS.
PG101 said:
I am not liking all this speculation about "do I qualify..?" "what do I need.." and more so that the current RCs are feeding these with actual answers.
I urge all of you to refrain from asking this particular question, its almost becoming like asking for an ETA on a rom thread.. you know how that goes?
If you feel you are ready, apply.. that's all there is to it and if you donot get accepted, I am sure you will be given reasons. You may discuss here how you can improve your contributions to be accepted again.
Cheers!
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Guys/Gals, I don't see this as a thread to evaluate others or to give hints and tips for others to achieve RC status. If a person is suitable , let the mods review them. They can read the OP and know the criteria required. I'm concerned that this thread has become a training ground and the RC pool is becoming diluted.
If a user cannot read or know what the criteria is, then, imho, they don't have the criteria required
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s/S-Mods/Senior Moderators/
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If you have questions, please ask here or ask one of the Recognized Contributors or Recognized Themers in your forum if you feel more comfortable with them.
Do we have to have guides and such to be eligible?
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Do we have to have guides and such to be eligible?
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Not always, some RC's have been given the title for their work on roms, kernels e.t.c, and some for being very nice to other members, helping out on their device specific forum.
Thanks for this!!! I'm going to apply now
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Hmm maybe I should apply, although I'm not sure if I am considered good enough xD
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
DarkhShadow said:
Hmm maybe I should apply, although I'm not sure if I am considered good enough xD
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
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Unfortunately search is still down so I can't look to see if you have started any guide threads or your other activity, but if you feel like you contribute more than the average user, then go ahead and apply and the mods will check and let you know if they feel like you qualify, or they will suggest other things to do to get there.
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Unfortunately search is still down so I can't look to see if you have started any guide threads or your other activity, but if you feel like you contribute more than the average user, then go ahead and apply and the mods will check and let you know if they feel like you qualify, or they will suggest other things to do to get there.
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Well I sent a message to Chainfire and no I haven't done guides but I have helped a fair bit more than most members I see.
I haven't done any guides because any of the things I could do one about already have stickies/threads
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DarkhShadow said:
Well I sent a message to Chainfire and no I haven't done guides but I have helped a fair bit more than most members I see.
I haven't done any guides because any of the things I could do one about already have stickies/threads
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Yeah, I know what you mean, my phone is the HTC Sensation and it is reaching a point of maturity where most ideas for guides and threads and such have been done. Several friends have asked for ideas and it is really hard to find new niches to fill in that forum.
Sometimes it is possible to find abandoned threads and then do a new thread to replace it, but that takes time to get the links to that thread replaced with your own so people stop going to that old thread.
Another possibility is to find a guide or thread where the original poster has moved on to a new phone, and then contact the forum admin to request that the thread ownership be transferred. If the OP is willing then that is an easy process. You don't get to keep their thanks from that thread however. :-/
Another possibility is to do the guide in a different format. If there is a text guide on how to install a firmware+ROM, then do a video guide, or do a better text guide with screenshots.
Well its worse for the Nexus S as pretty much anything is easy to do, ie unlocking bootloader and install a custom recovery, from there its 90% flashing things
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Thanks for this. I think I am going to apply not sure if I have done enough by helping out as much as I have.
tazfanatic said:
Thanks for this. I think I am going to apply not sure if I have done enough by helping out as much as I have.
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Good Luck!
Howdy!
May I ask if some members can be suggested to be attributed a RC status? Obviously, I can not summarize for them, only point the deciders to them/their posts.
TIA! Have a nice one all!
Lucky Thirteen said:
Howdy!
May I ask if some members can be suggested to be attributed a RC status? Obviously, I can not summarize for them, only point the deciders to them/their posts.
TIA! Have a nice one all!
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Sure, you can suggest, but the best way is to give them the link to this thread, or this article, and tell them to write to one of the senior mods and list their qualifications and why they believe they should be recognized.
Great thread! Applied.
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Great thread! Applied.
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Congrats you got it, come and visit these to HERE and HERE, who did you apply to. Also i would imagine if you made another theme, you could applyto become a Recognized themer also.
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Congrats you got it, come and visit these to HERE and HERE, who did you apply to. Also i would imagine if you made another theme, you could applyto become a Recognized themer also.
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Done and done!
It was my good ol'buddy pulser_g2 that added me, he was surprised why I haven't been added already lol
If I do come up with another theme then I shall definitely apply for Recognized themer. I have worked on a few themes already with others.
I hope I had read this one before...(I.e. thank you, op)
Though, I asked my device's fsm, and he assured me that he'll forward my application to senior mods...
Hope I can make it
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Ha I just found this thread, good idea to explain how to apply for RC status. I imagine I am the reason s.d.oconnor got the idea for this thread cause it is clear by my post in the RC Chat forum that I had no idea you could apply for RC status. I even mention it in the PM I sent to apply for RC.
If s.d.oconnor would like I still have a copy of that PM if he would like to post it as a example PM for others to view. I also think we might want to get authorization from the higher ups too before posting it just to make sure that is ok.
One last thing, it says in tthe OP to place a link to your profile in you PM. This is not needed as your user name above your avatar in the PM, just as in forum posts, is a link to your profile page. So it is already a link to your profile in the PM.
At the moment there are 3 normal user titles I am aware of:
Junior Member
(Something I forgot)
Senior Member
I think that xda should make some more, and make them more relevant to the theme of the forum.
Also, if we could have custom user titles, that would be great!
Already been posted...perhaps Search practice might be useful?
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I'll sum it up for you (or try, anyway!)
There are Junior Members, Members, Senior Members first. These make up the vast majority of XDAs userbase.
Recognised Contributors are nominated by other users and/or Mods/Developers. They are recognised for their contributions which are not specifically Development, such as detailed guides, one-click utilities and other tools/mods.
Recognised Themers are also nominated by users/Mods/Developers, for their work themeing custom ROMs and providing standalone themes for flashing.
Recognised Developers are nominated and approved by the Developer Committee, for their work in Development whether it be ROMs, Root methods, bootloader unlocks etc.
Elite Recognised Developers are again assessed by the Developer Committee, and are deemed to have gone above-and-beyond in providing knowledge/hacks/tools/apps/ROMs for the XDA community.
Forum Moderators are appointed by the Moderator Committee, after submitting an application (see the 'sticky' at the top of this forum - currently applications are not open). They are the first-line of keeping the forums tidy, friendly and orderly.
Senior Moderators are the next step up the ladder, providing site-wide support for Forum Mods and looking after the nitty-gritty issues, as well as areas of XDA not policed by FSMs, such as the Marketplace.
Administrators are next. There are several Admins - each look after a specific part of XDA such as the Portal, the Members and the User Experience of XDA as a whole.
At the top is Mike Channon, who is overall Forum Administrator.
Other titles you may come across:
Moderator Committee - sits on the Mod Committee
Developer Committee - as above, but for Developer Committee
XDA Newswriter - publishes articles for the Portal (front page)
Retired xxxx - have since officially 'left' their XDA position
Hopefully that clears most of them up for you
Contrary to what a lot of people expect, the thanks-meter does not figure at all in determining a users tag.
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Hmm. Did you read the post? I was saying for better ones - not giving a list!
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Hmm. Did you read the post? I was saying for better ones - not giving a list!
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That wouldn't really do anything useful honesty. The titles we have now are just fine an serve their purpose perfectly.
Also adding new titles would drive the mods nuts, having to decide who deserves what an why. Then having to remove titles from people who abuse it.
Honestly, be glad with what you got, no offense.
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That wouldn't really do anything useful honesty. The titles we have now are just fine an serve their purpose perfectly.
Also adding new titles would drive the mods nuts, having to decide who deserves what an why. Then having to remove titles from people who abuse it.
Honestly, be glad with what you got, no offense.
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Loads of offence taken. And I was really talking about the main titles - the ones that normally update, but no matter
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Loads of offence taken. And I was really talking about the main titles - the ones that normally update, but no matter
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sorry bout that, I'm a bit tired. I think the ones we have now are pretty simple,I do agree a little change to them would be nice. Certain posts an thanks, earns you a specific title.
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sorry bout that, I'm a bit tired. I think the ones we have now are pretty simple,I do agree a little change to them would be nice. Certain posts an thanks, earns you a specific title.
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Now you know what I was saying
I agree with the OP, we should either rase the post count for Snr Member as everybody is one of them nowadays or have more ranks at much higher post rates.
so this was why you asked me how to be a RC...
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Now you know what I was saying
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I'll bring it up with the other mods an see what they think.
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so this was why you asked me how to be a RC...
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Its not actually, its because I applied and was rejected
Too be honest, I can't see this happening. Especially custom titles as a simply do not have the time to spend policing the utter crap that people would enter into that field.
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conantroutman said:
Too be honest, I can't see this happening. Especially custom titles as a simply do not have the time to spend policing the utter crap that people would enter into that field.
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I didn't think we would get custom user titles, but why cant we have better, more suited to the site user titles?
At the moment, they are using the default vB ones..
liamwli said:
I didn't think we would get custom user titles, but why cant we have better, more suited to the site user titles?
At the moment, they are using the default vB ones..
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Because tbh the only titles of relevance are the recognised titles and anything else would only serve to lengthen somebodys e-peen, which is not something we want to encourage.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
there is no reason for anything beyond senior member because with anyone who has made 500 posts the thank count is more useful anyways...
although maybe something thanks based...
like after the title for every bar
ex Senior Member IX, Junior Member II, Member IV, etc
just a cool idea for IF admins are going to add/change titles and/or the titling system
It's been brought up before and the admins don't want rampant posters driving their count up just to get unique titles.
* iTouched Epic
There should be an automatic title if over 1000 thanks.
not looking at anybodys thanks-o-meter
benjamingwynn said:
There should be an automatic title if over 1000 thanks.
not looking at anybodys thanks-o-meter
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Chances are someone with over 1000 thanks is already "recognized" or could easily apply for it.
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mf2112 said:
Chances are someone with over 1000 thanks is already "recognized" or could easily apply for it.
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Hehe okay, can i apply for it? And where lol
benjamingwynn said:
Hehe okay, can i apply for it? And where lol
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Go here
Hi my name is John and im from Sweden.. i wonder if i could be an moderator of some sort ?
If so what can i help with ?
Im willing on helping but it depends on whats open for me.
Sinserley From John in Sweden
Applications for moderator are currently closed, but if you are interested go here and read everything all the way down to the bottom.
No offense dude, but you can't just join a forum, make 30 posts and ask to be moderator of a site for 4.5 million users.
Product F(RED) said:
No offense dude, but you can't just join a forum, make 30 posts and ask to be moderator of a site for 4.5 million users.
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I totally agree. Even if applications were open to become a moderator, I wouldn't even think about applying simply because I've only been here a few months and know that I wouldn't get accepted.
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KidCarter93 said:
I totally agree. Even if applications were open to become a moderator, I wouldn't even think about applying simply because I've only been here a few months and know that I wouldn't get accepted.
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I mean, if you've been helpful by all means apply. But it's really hard to judge the quality of someone's posts by just 30 of them. People joining to become mods is common with very small forums where the admin will put up a thread saying, "APPLY HERE TO BE A MOD" to attract users. But not on a site like this. This is the most professional (by size and internet standing) forum I've been a part of. Personally, I have moderator experience but I wouldn't bother applying because I have a tendency to not sugar-coat things when a person is wrong. I'm calm and concise but for example, I have absolutely no patience for Marketplace scammers.
But anyways, I digress. Before you think of applying for a moderator position, make sure you have posts to back it up. And if you feel the need to post differently than you normally would just to become a moderator, don't bother applying because you can be demoted if you abuse your powers and talk down to people.
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I mean, if you've been helpful by all means apply. But it's really hard to judge the quality of someone's posts by just 30 of them. People joining to become mods is common with very small forums where the admin will put up a thread saying, "APPLY HERE TO BE A MOD" to attract users. But not on a site like this. This is the most professional (by size and internet standing) forum I've been a part of. Personally, I have moderator experience but I wouldn't bother applying because I have a tendency to not sugar-coat things when a person is wrong. I'm calm and concise but for example, I have absolutely no patience for Marketplace scammers.
But anyways, I digress. Before you think of applying for a moderator position, make sure you have posts to back it up. And if you feel the need to post differently than you normally would just to become a moderator, don't bother applying because you can be demoted if you abuse your powers and talk down to people.
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Yeah definitely. I totally agree, especially with the bit I've bolded. Even if I felt, at a later stage, that I was ready to apply for said position, I probably wouldn't be approved anyway. But to be perfectly honest, I'm more than happy just to be able to be a part of this great community and obviously I'll always continue to help out others when I can, regardless.
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From experience, being a mod is cool at first, but having to deal with tons of reported posts becomes tedious. You would think being a moderator is better than being a regular user, but the truth is moderators are restricted in what they can say and what they can do. So I can call another user a douchebag, but if a moderator did that he'd put his position in danger. I can sell in the Marketplace, but a moderator (I think) can not.
Product F(RED) said:
From experience, being a mod is cool at first, but having to deal with tons of reported posts becomes tedious. You would think being a moderator is better than being a regular user, but the truth is moderators are restricted in what they can say and what they can do. So I can call another user a douchebag, but if a moderator did that he'd put his position in danger. I can sell in the Marketplace, but a moderator (I think) can not.
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I've been a moderator on sevel forums, some only had few hundren people and couple had several hundred thousand...
Its a thankless job and dealing with some members can get to be a nightmare...
Oh the horror stories I could share..
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This thread has been compiled to offer my advice to users (especially new ones) about using the XDA site. Although there are other longer guides telling users how to use the site, I think it is valid that I give tips based on my experience on the site. This is a Mini guide which means that I will only highlight key information about XDA which may or may not have been explored in different threads.
As I say in all my guides, suggestions are like gold to me and I just want to make my service better. All reasonable comments are welcome. Please PM me if you have any urgent problems. I am sorry if my service is uninvited.
So Enjoy :laugh:
1) Post in the right place! Although it is obvious, it seems many users do not know this. XDA is split up into topics which are then (i like to think) split into 7 key areas.
-General= for all those general comments relating to a topic
-QandA = For any questions you have
- Modifying/Hacking/Unlocking = For more advanced discussion.
- Software Development = Think of it as Discussion about ROMs. Usually only advanced users are allowed here too.
- Themes = As you've probably guessed - for themes.
- Apps & Games = Again pretty self explanatory.
- Another development Place = This is basically another development forum.
Post in your device specific area and your questions will be answered quickly.
2) Is it necessary? Your question has probably been answered before so search for it. If you find nothing go ahead and post your question making sure it is in the right place. If you are clumsy and post in the wrong place or post a duplicate, there is a higher chance you will get trolled and your thread will be closed. This leads onto my next tip.
3) Getting trolled can be part of XDA. It is usually just funny and causes no harm. However when it crosses the line it becomes flaming. This is against the rules and should be reported immediately regardless of who does the flaming. And when you do get trolled, don't feel disheartened. Everyone will get the opportunity when a thread is screaming out asking for a joke to be made. Some users will also get the opportunity to feel the troll.
4) The hierarchy. On XDA as you can see, people have different titles.
- Everyone starts as a junior member. With fewer than 10 posts you will be locked into a CAPTCHA system to stop post spamming and try to teach users the value of a post. You will get the signature ability at 8 posts.
- After 30 posts a junior member evolves into a member.
- After 100 posts a member becomes all powerful and evolves into a senior member.
There is no additional benefit to the post/title change system apart from additional respect from other users.
You then have Recognized Contributors, Recognized Themers and Recognized Developers who are members nominated for their contribution to XDA or the theming section. You will receive development tools, an ad free template of XDA and the development forums when you get this title.
You then Have Elite Recognized Developers who receive gadgets as part of their title.
Next is the Forum Moderators title. These are the kings/queens of the forums. They manage them and keep them squeeky clean.
Then you have senior moderators. They ususally look after the Marketplace.
Then you have Administrators. Each one has their own area.
At the top of it all, Mike Channon the Forum Administrator. He is the 'Bourne Ultimatum' if you like :laugh:5) The thanks system. Give thanks when somebody helps you or when you find a post 'interesting.' Contrary to popular belief, the thanks system holds no actual value on XDA apart from maybe status. Maybe this will be an improvement into XDA; implement the thanks system deeper. To bar up on the thanks meter:
1st bar - 26
2nd bar - 51
3rd Bar - 101
4th bar - 201
5th Bar - 501
6th bar - 1001
7th bar - 2001
8th bar - 5001
9th Bar - 8001
MAX - 10,000
6) Tech Support in the Dev Thread. Many devs do not appreciate PMs for tech support nor posts for tech support. There is a dedicated Q&A forum for that. Put it there.
7) Write clearly and use good english. As someone who speaks 3 languages I know illiteracy is a big problem. Not just for the speakers but for the readers. It is also against the rules. You will get quicker responses and more respect with good english. Posting in other languages is OK as long as the correct english translation is presented. Google Translate will aid you with this. Although this isn't the Rosetta Stone helpline, I am always keen to help. PM me for help if you want to post something and don't know how to articulate it. And with this I move onto my next tip.
8) Give basic info when asking for help. Do not just leave your question without basic background like phone, software, problem etc. Maybe you should consider putting this information in your signature once you gain access to it.
9) Help others too! By helping others you will gain thanks and again: respect.
Thankyou for reading my guide. For a similar guide by the all seeing owl mf2112 check here.
Special Thanks to deedii for all her support.
I have spent quite some time typing this review, please do not troll. All suggestions on the other hand are more than welcome. Please hit 'thanks' if you appreciate my massive effort. Sorry if this is not something you wanted. Even though the guide is long, I call it mini because it does not cover everything.
NOTE: Sometimes I find myself on XDA in the early hours of the morning providing the best possible. I sometimes do not pay attention and will get angry quickly. I never mean any disrespect to anyone. If I do cross the line I am sorry in advance. Please PM me and bring my comment to my attention. I will issue an apology ASAP. Even though many advanced XDA users have disappointed me I will always offer XDA the best. I am always trying to be as nice as possible regardless of what people do to anger me so feel free to ask for help with anything.
You need to change the bit about making a signature. You've said that when you hit 30 posts you can make one, but it's when a user gets 8 posts. But can be done right from the start if using the xda app
Velcro. What a rip off!
This is good, I think it will be useful especially for people using the app and not the website. I use XDA mostly on the pc so I don't think about how things look from the XDA app viewpoint as much.
I will review it again over coffee in a bit and then edit this post with any suggestions. Thanks! :good:
OK. Thanks again. I want to offer some ideas but not write them out so you can write them without altering the character of it too much. I am also trying to consider the length to avoid the Too Long;Didn't Read issue.
For part 1, your area list is correct for the XDA General Discussion forums, but not for the device forums. You might consider incorporating the device specific forums such as General, Q&A, Accessories, Themes and Apps, Development, and Original Development. Not all devices will have all sections depending on how new the device is and how well supported.
For part 4, you might also include "and Recognized Developers" in the first line and "or the development forums." at the end of the line.
For part 7, posting in other languages is ok but an English translation must also be provided. Best effort or a Google Translate is ok.
mf2112 said:
This is good, I think it will be useful especially for people using the app and not the website. I use XDA mostly on the pc so I don't think about how things look from the XDA app viewpoint as much.
I will review it again over coffee in a bit and then edit this post with any suggestions. Thanks! :good:
OK. Thanks again. I want to offer some ideas but not write them out so you can write them without altering the character of it too much...
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Thankyou very much. I am getting to work!
KidCarter93 said:
You need to change the bit about making a signature. You've said that when you hit 30 posts you can make one, but it's when a user gets 8 posts. But can be done right from the start if using the xda app
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Thanks yet again.
KidCarter93 said:
You need to change the bit about making a signature. You've said that when you hit 30 posts you can make one, but it's when a user gets 8 posts. But can be done right from the start if using the xda app
Velcro. What a rip off!
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The signature on the app and the signature on the site are separate. You can set the app signature right away but not the site signature.
mf2112 said:
The signature on the app and the signature on the site are separate. You can set the app signature right away but not the site signature.
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That's what I was saying, but didn't word the last bit very well
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Great insight on the hierarchy.
Good job
I cannot make the title of this specific thread capitals for some reason. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. (if any :laugh
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I cannot make the title of this specific thread capitals for some reason. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. (if any :laugh
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Well, given that it is a mini guide, no capitals might be appropriate. :laugh: :victory: :silly:
I hate to create a somewhat unnecessary post but I have to agree with you. I just thought that capitals attract more attention but maybe lower case seems more appropriate. Wondering if i should change all guides to lower case.