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Hey everyone.
So I have finally decided that the dust being under my evo's screen has gotten annoying enough to where i want to get it cleaned. Problem is that i'm rooted. My question here today is that will flashing a barebones stock rooted sense rom and removing the superuser app be enough to get by the sprint repair techs? I really don't want to have to unroot and then turn s-on.
Link to barebones rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251&highlight=stock+rooted
Any input?

Nobody can really say if it's enough or not. It's a gamble. I used a ruu for mine and put everything back to stock. I also removed my sd card because I had read about someone taking their phone in and the tech saw on the card there was root related stuff on there. The guy must have did something or the tech was an ass because he said they refused to fix it and flagged his account that it's a rooted phone.
If you can run the autoroot method, then it's not difficult to do. The script does all the dirty work for you.
If you were too lazy to put everything back to stock and they found out, you would be kicking yourself in the ass for not being more thorough. I'm not trying to be a **** or insult you. I'm saying better being safe than sorry.
If the tech discovers tampering, and they are a ****, then it's all over for your hopes to get it fixed man. Good luck
Here is where I got the one I used before taking it in. I got version 3.70 at the bottom.
http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic

Agreed
I agree with the hammer. It isn't that hard to unroot your phone at all, it should only take 15 minutes or so. I have heard of some Sprint tech's being cool, and working on a phone regardless of whether it was rooted or not. I have also read of people being given a hard time, and even having their account red flagged. There is no way of knowing if you will get a cool tech, that won't care, or a guy that takes his job too seriously and plays by allt he rules. Due to it being such an unpredictable outcome, I would recommend just unrooting before going in. If you rooted with unrevoked, flash their S-on tool in recovery, then RUU back to stock, or run a PC36IMG of a stock rom through the bootloader. If you never ran unrevoked or unrevoked forever, I don't think you need to flash the S-on tool, just running the RUU should turn your S-on. Once it's all fixed up, use one of the many root methods available, and it'll be like a clean start!

I appreciate both responses and am just gonna run with the unreveoked s on since that's how I rooted. My nands should still be good though correct?

jxr94 said:
I appreciate both responses and am just gonna run with the unreveoked s on since that's how I rooted. My nands should still be good though correct?
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As long as you end up with the same phone (which you surely will). You just don't really want to interchange nandroid backups between different phones, as you run the risk of over writing your RSA keys. If you do, you need to remove the wimax.img from the nandroid backup before running it. And one more thing. Not to be paranoid, but I've seen someone get screwed from it...you should remove anything from your sd card that is related to rooting, flashing, etc. I've seen a guy report of getting his account redflagged and service was refused, because the tech found ROMS, kernels, mods, and other stuff on the sd card. That was supposedly enough evidence of rooting to red flag the account. Surely that is unlikely, but you never know. So it may not hurt to copy your sd card to your computer, then format the card before bringing it in. Or just taking the sd card out all together before you bring it in. Take it for what its worth, and good luck on getting your screen fixed!

I gave the advice that probably 99.9% will get you to where you need to be to safely get it fixed or replaced. It is up to you if you do or do not want to take a chance with a modded phone.

Hello,
I used to be a Service an Repair Area Manager. In the MI area.
I personaly did not care if the phone was rooted or not, being the screen is just dirty I personaly would have never even looked at software.
If Your really worried about your sprint tech's looking into things its also not hard to just take the digitiser off and clean it yourself, let me know if you want to know how to get it done.
jxr94 said:
Hey everyone.
So I have finally decided that the dust being under my evo's screen has gotten annoying enough to where i want to get it cleaned. Problem is that i'm rooted. My question here today is that will flashing a barebones stock rooted sense rom and removing the superuser app be enough to get by the sprint repair techs? I really don't want to have to unroot and then turn s-on.
Link to barebones rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251&highlight=stock+rooted
Any input?
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Isn't this the millionth thread about should I take a rooted phone in?
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Non-software related issues do not warrant checking software. If you bring a rooted device into my store for hardware issues, I probably won't even check it. And if I do notice, it's not a problem since hardware != software.
Now if you come into my store complaining that your device is freezing, camera isn't working, etc and you're a jerk when I say it could be the root or ROM, then I'll flag your account.
All in all, if you're having software problems on a root device, don't take it to Sprint. Hardware is still a go.

Sunsparc said:
Non-software related issues do not warrant checking software. If you bring a rooted device into my store for hardware issues, I probably won't even check it. And if I do notice, it's not a problem since hardware != software.
Now if you come into my store complaining that your device is freezing, camera isn't working, etc and you're a jerk when I say it could be the root or ROM, then I'll flag your account.
All in all, if you're having software problems on a root device, don't take it to Sprint. Hardware is still a go.
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That is the same thing i would do, The worst thing is to have someone come in beeing a "Jerk" then yes I would flag the account. Never payes to be a "Jerk"

sand1303 said:
Isn't this the millionth thread about should I take a rooted phone in?
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Do I win a prize?

Hahaha! Not this time. But nice try. Hopefully u understand that it is a gamble and there is no real answer. It just depends on the tech and the actual store. My lcd was replaced and I was worried because I couldn't unroot mine without a display. Turned out they fixed it no questions asked. I got lucky. Some people don't. It is either rooted or not no matter how far u customize. And they either care or don't.
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Should I unroot before taking my phone in for a screen replacement?

I went by the print store today to ask about getting my screen replaced. the guy I talked with said that for a hardware fix it wouldn't matter if I were rooted.
But they couldn't put my phone on any kind of blacklist or anything could they? I'd rather not waste the time unrooting if I don't have to.
Thanks
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Sprint will work on rooted phones for hardware issues. It's internal policy for them now as of recently. I confirmed this with my local Sprint repair store.

They may work on them, but they may also take note of the fact that you're rooted in case you have software problems. Takes 10 min, just make a backup before you do, so when you root again, easy to get back to where you were.

Do not unroot your phone to take to sprint. Ive had 2 screen rep;acements and many other replacements rooted. And that was before the alleged new policy regarding root. Used to be, they would say (after fixing), 'yeah, as long as you atleast try to make it look stock, thats all good'.
But apparently/allegedly now, even obvious root is ok. I'd still flash a stock theme
Why are there so many threads about this? people no searchy?

thanks for the info.
scottspa74 said:
Why are there so many threads about this? people no searchy?
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sorry about that search on the xda app is almost unbearable...

I would unroot it. Better safe than sorry.
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I took my Evo's for screen repairs, speaker phone repair and battery issues many times, all while having MIUI flashed. No one ever said anything to me.
Sprint people didn't even know what it was. I just said "oh I downloaded a new theme."

I thought rooting was not illegal anymore. Maybe it depends on the technician you speak with. Some are cool, some are not. I say unroot just to be safe. Thank god for easy rooting practices...

screen fix and root
I think it all depends on what store you are taking it into, i took my rooted phone in and had the screen replaced no issues,

Taking phone back to Sprint...

Due to an issue where my phone will randomly turn off on its own and not being able to turn it back on for an extended period of time or being able to charge it (I think it was it too humid an area for too long), I want to take my phone back to Sprint but am rooted. So, I ran the s-on tool and have been trying to get completely back to stock but haven't been able to completely because I can still see super user in the app drawer. What is the best way around this? I tried flashing 3 or 4 different PC36IMG from bootloader but continually got an error saying something about my version being older? I was finally able to flashed a rooted stock image but still see superuser and can't get rid of it! As a last resort, I decided I would just go to system updates and let it upgrade me to gingerbread. However, when I click on system updates/software update, it searches for awhile and then says there are no updates available!!! What am I missing and what is the best way to just plain start from non-rooted scratch????

I can still see super user in the app drawer.
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If you have s-on, then you are unrooted. There is no need to flash a stock rom if you are already on one. The SU app can just be uninstalled.
I tried flashing 3 or 4 different PC36IMG from bootloader but continually got an error saying something about my version being older?
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That means you are trying to install a rom that is older than the one you have now. You probably need the latest version.

Again. SPRINT SERVICES ROOTED PHONES! Please use the search feature.

From what I have tried and read, you can't uninstall superuser. As an aside, I decided to accept the ota advice figured it was the quickest and easiest way to be sure I wasn't rooted. I don't mind being temporarily unable to reroot cause I'm sure a new method is close. Here's the weird thing though, I did the ota update to 4.24 and installed it, but still have Superuser in the app drawer! Wtf? I even did a factory reset but it still is there! How the hell do I get rid of that program!?
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legasus233 said:
From what I have tried and read, you can't uninstall superuser. As an aside, I decided to accept the ota advice figured it was the quickest and easiest way to be sure I wasn't rooted. I don't mind being temporarily unable to reroot cause I'm sure a new method is close. Here's the weird thing though, I did the ota update to 4.24 and installed it, but still have Superuser in the app drawer! Wtf? I even did a factory reset but it still is there! How the hell do I get rid of that program!?
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Why do you need to unroot your phone?

Lokifish Marz said:
Why do you need to unroot your phone?
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I believe he is already unrooted so this question doesn't matter lol. Some people don't read when invaluable advice such as yours is provided and they are left freaking out about the SU app.

Yes, I am unrooted because my local Sprint store checks for root. What makes you so sure it doesn't matter to sprint? So, can either of you answer my original questions?
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Super User gets placed in the system/app folder so as far as the phone is concerned it's a part of the core OS and cannot be removed without root. It honestly should not be a concern. You just have Super User preinstalled for when we get root for 2.3 OTA.

legasus233 said:
Yes, I am unrooted because my local Sprint store checks for root. What makes you so sure it doesn't matter to sprint? So, can either of you answer my original questions?
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It doesn't matter to Sprint because Sprint says so.

Just had my EVO serviced and I'm on Synergy ROM and got the phone back without any problems but a friend of mine took his in and got it back returned to stock unrooted so I guess depends where you go.

I read the PDF but don't see how that means sprint doesn't care. All I read is what sounded like sprint cs employees talking about policy. How is that official? Or am I missing something?
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hellraiser2011 said:
Just had my EVO serviced and I'm on Synergy ROM and got the phone back without any problems but a friend of mine took his in and got it back returned to stock unrooted so I guess depends where you go.
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What was your phone in for, hardware or software? It's supposed to be that hardware issues (charge port, screen, buttons,, etc..) do not require that the phone bo returned to stock. On a phone with software issues we are supposed to return the phone to stock, run updates then troubleshoot. I know it blows getting that finely tuned custom ROM/Kernel wiped but the devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
Now I personally will not flash a customers phone back to stock unless there is no other option but will generally start with a wipe to clear any crap out of the phone. Then again, when I was working with teamwin and orrebmas I was rooting/unrooting and flashing all the major ROMs as many as 10-15 times a day so I'm a bit more familiar with custom ROMs than most techs.
legasus233 said:
I read the PDF but don't see how that means sprint doesn't care. All I read is what sounded like sprint cs employees talking about policy. How is that official? Or am I missing something?
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As a tech I can verify that for one, only Sprint employees have access to that forum and the service subforum from which that came is for ASC techs. Second, almost the entire thread was techs complaining about why should they service rooted phones for free. These are the same people that claim there is no way to be sure if a phone is rooted.

OK, now I see, I didn't realize you were a Sprint tech. Anyway, you know my situation, what would you recommend? What could be causing my random shutoffs related issues? Also, I've only had the phone since March. Is my issue covered by warranty? I don't have insurance
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Thermal shutoff bug: If the phone gets to hot it will shut off and not turn on til it's cooled down. The sensor can get out of calibration and require lower and lower temps before it will boot. The worst case I have personally observed was a phone that needed to be below freezing before it would boot. This bug will also cause the charging circuit to not charge (it thinks it's too hot).
In a room that's no more than 75deg Fahrenheit turn on all the radios and run neocore interactive mode. Let it run for atleast an hour. If the phone shuts off immediately check to see if the kickstand is hot. Now I don't mean warm but hot. If the kickstand is not hot then your phone's temp sensor is out of calibration and requires that the phone be replaced. This is a known issue or "Device KIS". If the phone is within it's one year warranty there is no charge for the replacement. If the phone is out of warranty it is up to the discretion of the tech and/or manager to assist you in getting it replaced via Authorized Exchange or "AE".

I ran through the program as you suggested and the kickstand wasn't hot and didn't power cycle at all. Then what?
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Go HERE this is my live support chat so I can walk you through a couple things. I'll wait for you for the next 30mins or so.

Sprint said they wouldn't work on my phone because it was rooted
Sent from my dope fly fresh EVO

I have three Sprint stores in my area. Two of them are managed technically inept managers, one of them is managed by a techno-god, I don't know what he's doing managing a Sprint shack but so be it. I talked to him about rooted Evos and he said that the other two stores don't check for it because they don't know anything about the concept of rooting. But HE DOES because it's hard to guarantee a repair on a rooted phone. According to him, it's up to the store's management and also up to Sprint. They don't necessarily check for "root" but if servicing a phone requires a software update, they're going to use a stock RUU and voila! That was my experience.

[Q] This may be tough to answer

I am working my master plan to getting a new phone lol...
Does anyone know where I can find a picture of a G2/VISION's ABOUT PHONE stats before its been rooted or a roms been put on it? I dont wanna call TMOBILE and they ask me certain things like the software version and android version I'm running and I give them the information based off what rom I have.
Unless someone knows what those would be off the top of their heads.

Most phones have different factory shipped software, so what in particular are you looking for?

The reason its tough to answer is because you didn't state any info of value. Are you trying to exchange/return? Are you wanting to buy a new one?? I mean that kind of important don't you think?
If its a warranty exchange they won't ask you for any software numbers only ask about damages.
If buying a new one who cares anyways.
If those are wrong please fix your question.
Thanks
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So... you're trying to scam the T-mobile CS support by giving them false information about a non-rooted phone rather than your rooted phone.
If you're going to get a warranty return and replacement the least you can do is unroot your phone (you'll have to when you return it...(or ffs at least put a stock pre-rooted ROM back on it)) when you call in so if you're not confident in your ability to BS them you can have the real numbers ready....

just downgrade and unroot.....

xudsa II USERT said:
Most phones have different factory shipped software, so what in particular are you looking for?
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Just whatever info in the ABOUT PHONE STATS for a phone that hasn't been rooted and modded. Software version and stuff like that...
I have a G2 but I have had an issue and had several replaced because it'll just randomly shut off sometimes. And since I've replaced it quite a few times already I was ready to just ask them to replace my phone with something else.
Only thing is I just want to have that information so as they ask me I can be like this is what I have.

d3athb4dishonor said:
Just whatever info in the ABOUT PHONE STATS for a phone that hasn't been rooted and modded. Software version and stuff like that...
I have a G2 but I have had an issue and had several replaced because it'll just randomly shut off sometimes. And since I've replaced it quite a few times already I was ready to just ask them to replace my phone with something else.
Only thing is I just want to have that information so as they ask me I can be like this is what I have.
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just load a stock pre-rooted ROM on your phone. Could've had it done by now...

martonikaj said:
just load a stock pre-rooted ROM on your phone. Could've had it done by now...
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I think his phone has problems, cause he mentioned about it rebooting, so I guess he cant downgrade?
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Just whatever info...what I have.
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I have some info I logged down before rooting, but its from a stock Desire Z, not a T-Mobile version, will that do?
BTW: Another guy had similar reboot problems too here

Rooted Galaxy Nexus. Repaired NO Warranty problems!! No unroot needed?

So i've been spending a couple of hours over a couples of days trying to unroot en relock my phone.
I had some USB problems and Charging issue's So i wanted to return it in stock..
But Like I said my USB didnt work so I decided to take my losses and just return it, rooted with Superuser installed.
after Explaining my situation the Tech Guy from my Carrier Tells me...
O you have rooted your Phone. Well that might be a problem with the insurance... unless you got a Nexus Device.
I was like what do you mean.
well with all Nexus Devices you are allowed to root your phone...
So i was wondering , who knew about this?

What carrier? This is definitely not the company line from any carrier I know.

Probably just doing so nice customer service. If I was the tech guy id repair it for free since most people always root it anyway. Plus its kind of encouraged anyway.
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Wow man lucky
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I was in Sprint yesterday asking them about the newest radio for the JB build (I was having issues with a backup I made and having old radios preventing me from getting the JB OTA update). Anyways, the guy asked why I would need to know about the radios and I played dumb as to why I wasnt updating. My phone was relocked and unrooted but he picked up on it and said he wouldnt even touch the phone to give me help as modding the phone voids warranty. I was able to figure out on my own and fix it but they were pretty strict on the rules.

You're lucky man!! I asked in a shop and they said that I'll lose warranty. What carrier??

poda13 said:
I was in Sprint yesterday asking them about the newest radio for the JB build (I was having issues with a backup I made and having old radios preventing me from getting the JB OTA update). Anyways, the guy asked why I would need to know about the radios and I played dumb as to why I wasnt updating. My phone was relocked and unrooted but he picked up on it and said he wouldnt even touch the phone to give me help as modding the phone voids warranty. I was able to figure out on my own and fix it but they were pretty strict on the rules.
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Not true, rooting is discouraged but is not grounds for denial of warranty.

petemills8 said:
Not true, rooting is discouraged but is not grounds for denial of warranty.
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You can still have a valid warranty if you are rooted, but it depends for what you a claiming damages. If your power button stops working, that has nothing to do with root, they will just repair the button or give you a new model. However, if you call up your carrier and say something about your phone not turning on, then they might deny you coverage if they find out your phone was rooted/flashed

Quasimoto27 said:
You can still have a valid warranty if you are rooted, but it depends for what you a claiming damages. If your power button stops working, that has nothing to do with root, they will just repair the button or give you a new model. However, if you call up your carrier and say something about your phone not turning on, then they might deny you coverage if they find out your phone was rooted/flashed
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Reread what you posted, your first sentence and last sentence kinda contradict each other. Also, all I am talking about is rooting, not hardware failures, not water damage.
You should read the pdf I posted, they cannot deny you warranty just for rooting. Individuals may give you problems because they do not know Sprint's own policies, but if you escalate you should eventually find someone who knows what's what.

Oops I had it mixed up thanks for clarifying. Hardware problems can be fixed rooted as long as they don't check. If its something root related then no. Always best to return to stock everything and if you can reset flash counter.
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Last year when I bought my Galaxy SII, I forget what I was asking the guy at the T-Mobile store but he suggested I root it (planned on it anyway), he rooted all his phones, and I shouldn't have any problems if I have to return it but if I do to just go back to stock first.