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Jellybean scheduled to be rolled out in june for Developers

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I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ICS UPDATE.

Google really needs to get their crap together. ICS still out and one phone officially has it. Now this is coming and although it's not confirmed, this is still ridiculous. It would be nice to see tablets running the new upcoming OS but where do the phones play a role in this? I thought the OEMs where the reason for fragmentation but it is proving that Google is the kingpin behind all of this.
I love android but I like to be up to date and it's becoming harder and harder as Google gets more and more powerful. We shouldn't have to get a Nexus to be up to date. Fragmentation really needs to be fixed.

It will not be out for like a year.google has not even said it's going to be called jelly bean.
From a galaxy better than yours.

I posted this a few days ago.
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It will probable not even be for phones. It will be like honeycomb was.

Dude all carrier customizations should be done via the market and all android phones should be aosp as default
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defconoi said:
Dude all carrier customizations should be done via the market and all android phones should be aosp as default
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Google doesnt think so
http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2012/01/11/minyanville-at-ces-google-puts/

any google rep check in here at xda? if there is one please read and take our compliant seriously. thank you

hmm i like jellybeans

Another reason to only get google phones. The GN will be updated right away, we will have to wait 6+ months.

If history holds true then we won't get it at all. Both the vibrant and the sgs4g only got one official update. If the galaxy s3 and 5.0 get released around the same time I would bet on Sammy not upgrading the s2. Its sad and disrespectful to their fan base but that's how it has been for the tmo galaxy line so far.
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Exodian said:
If history holds true then we won't get it at all. Both the vibrant and the sgs4g only got one official update. If the galaxy s3 and 5.0 get released around the same time I would bet on Sammy not upgrading the s2. Its sad and disrespectful to their fan base but that's how it has been for the tmo galaxy line so far.
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Google just needs to get its act together with android updates.
You can bet your ass the next apple event will highlight how all their devices are updated while only a slim % of android phones run the latesr version.
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I don't think this will be for phones but who knows. Also Google hasn't t officially said this will be for mobile phones or clarified the name. I think the people who suffer the most are t mobile users who would love to have a GN but were cut short by Google and t mobile. If Google is going to spoon feed their number 1 device it should be on all carries under the sun. This was one of my concerns of getting a gs2, i love the phone i just wish Google and these carries would get there act together.
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jordanishere said:
Google just needs to get its act together with android updates.
You can bet your ass the next apple event will highlight how all their devices are updated while only a slim % of android phones run the latesr version.
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Well its really easy if your devices and product all run similar hardware. apple iphone and ipod touch all run similar hardware. Drivers are mostly the same with slight changes.
Unless google says only restricts to certain hardware like tegra 2 and tegra 3 for tablets. and what ever processor for phones this won't happen. Essentially google did their job once they released source. It now up to Htc, Samsung , lg, and moto do their job and make new drivers from source.
Also another reason is carriers. The samsung galaxy 2 is the same phone through out europe on different carriers. Htc could of did the same thing with the sensation and use a apq8060 so it could essentially be a a world phone. You could essentially switch out the modem and still use the same processor. This would make it easier for updates. But U.s carriers want to brand them. Put certain restrictions for them. Also add all their bloatware back in.
Google alliance thing was something google promised but in the end they can't make it happen. You can't make carriers update your device. If they dont think its important enough so they can make money off of it then they wont update it.
T-mobile is one of the worst when it comes updating devices. I been on all the other major carriers and i seen even them release even incremental updates for phones that I thought no one uses on other carriers. Tmobile will have their flagship device with bugs for at least 6 months till they decide to update it.

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Well its really easy if your devices and product all run similar hardware. apple iphone and ipod touch all run similar hardware. Drivers are mostly the same with slight changes.
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This is mostly the case. The reason it takes as long as it does is adding the Touchwiz and Sense to fit phones

tdizzle404 said:
It will probable not even be for phones. It will be like honeycomb was.
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Huh? The whole point of ICS was to make Android a universal operating system between all phones/tablets.
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This is mostly the case. The reason it takes as long as it does is adding the Touchwiz and Sense to fit phones
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I con tolerate touchwiz more than i can tolerate sense and blur. Touchwiz looks closest to stock android. So maybe it will be lighter and lighter over time. The only thing i dont like about touch wiz is the actual launcher. The rest dont really bother me. Sense 4.0 and ics make me not ever want an htc device again. Blur is just disgusting and all it does is bog the phone down.

Im still waiting on Froyo, while still on Eclair. Geez, these updates are taking FOREVER!
lol
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Towle said:
Huh? The whole point of ICS was to make Android a universal operating system between all phones/tablets.
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This was my point exactly. Google keeps saying one thing and doing another. ICS was supposed to make things uniform and I do remember the talk about slowing down all the theming or skins done by oem's. Doesn't look like anything is slowing down. Manufacturers dropping phones non stop and all the adopters of the product are left with no update. It seems as if as long as Google is getting the advertising money....all the companies can run a muck.
I have to admit the third portion of this is the cell providers just being greedy by not updating and forcing you to want to upgrade.
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This was my point exactly. Google keeps saying one thing and doing another. ICS was supposed to make things uniform and I do remember the talk about slowing down all the theming or skins done by oem's. Doesn't look like anything is slowing down. Manufacturers dropping phones non stop and all the adopters of the product are left with no update. It seems as if as long as Google is getting the advertising money....all the companies can run a muck.
I have to admit the third portion of this is the cell providers just being greedy by not updating and forcing you to want to upgrade.
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Well Google has done a **** job recently with ICS. The Nexus S and Nexus S 4G are ahead of the Galaxy Nexus "the premier ICS phone" and I hate to say it but I'm just losing faith in Google. To add insult to injury, Google has so many builds of ICS that nobody knows who's getting what and when.
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Should I buy VZW Galaxy Nexus or wait?

Ok so I have an iPhone 4 that I am sick of and I am not eligible for an upgrade until July 2013. The Toro is pretty cheap on ebay and it looks like the Nexus 4 will not be available on Verizon. Should I pull the trigger?
And If I do, will it cost any extra to switch from a 3g phone to 4g?
Any input is appreciated :good:

i think you should learn to make your own decisions in life, you will find it to be a very beneficial skill to learn.

Darunion said:
i think you should learn to make your own decisions in life, you will find it to be a very beneficial skill to learn.
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If u don't like to help others what r u doing here. He/She is only asking for advice. You should learn to be respectful.
If nexus 4 isn't going to Verizon there is no point in waiting to buy another phone. I'm eligible for an upgraded in January and I just bought the gnex. My main reason is that the nexus 4 has 16 GB of memory and no SD card slot. That isn't enough for me. I can use cloud services but since sprint internet speed is the worst in my area that is not an option.
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pr0xyw0rm said:
If u don't like to help others what r u doing here. He/She is only asking for advice. You should learn to be respectful.
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I love helping others to be honest, Been helping for sometime now, but 'm not going to compare resume's with you. It is much better if people learn to form their own opinions than to simply be told what they should do. Yes I come off as strong but it was not intended as an attack on the user. Lets say someone posts what he should do and he does it and is unhappy with the result? All the information he asked for is available easily from the search box with a dozen of these 'should i buy...." threads with plenty of user opinions in them.

Limatime42 said:
Ok so I have an iPhone 4 that I am sick of and I am not eligible for an upgrade until July 2013. The Toro is pretty cheap on ebay and it looks like the Nexus 4 will not be available on Verizon. Should I pull the trigger?
And If I do, will it cost any extra to switch from a 3g phone to 4g?
Any input is appreciated :good:
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I would get the GNex if I were you!

Limatime42 said:
Ok so I have an iPhone 4 that I am sick of and I am not eligible for an upgrade until July 2013. The Toro is pretty cheap on ebay and it looks like the Nexus 4 will not be available on Verizon. Should I pull the trigger?
And If I do, will it cost any extra to switch from a 3g phone to 4g?
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i dont get this thread.. you either get the gnex or wait...but for what?

Gnex all the way.
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Honestly I would just wait for something better. I like my nexus and everything... don't get me wrong. But there are a few other smart phones that can do just the job. I say this because I'm not a big ROM user or mod. I just use stock and hope for the best.
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Some people have hinted that there will be a Verizon N4 released in January.

If you like to flash different ROMS and want to have the latest version of Android definitely go for the GNex. If you're mainly use stock Android and don't want to tinker with your phone too much than you should probably wait as there will probably be new phones coming out in the next few months.

You will have to change your plan to go to 4g. If you have unlimited you will lose it
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Don't buy the vzw gnx definitely wait or get the nexus 4. In July you'll have better options I assure you.
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donnyp1 said:
You will have to change your plan to go to 4g. If you have unlimited you will lose it
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This is not true. I switched from a 3g phone to a 4G phone about a month ago and my unlimited data is still in tact.

Jaydizz said:
This is not true. I switched from a 3g phone to a 4G phone about a month ago and my unlimited data is still in tact.
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QFT
My mom went from her 3G HTC Incredible 2 to the 4G Moto Razr, and she's still on her unlimited data. However, maybe you are working with an incompetent rep (which is always the case when their goal is to kick you off the unlimited plans), so ask before you ask them to do anything in regards to switching over from phone to phone.
Edit: after readin the OP, I don't even know if he has unlimited data. Furthermore, I don't know what the dilemma is. Buy the Gnex or wait for....??? Unicorn Nexus????

If you buy a used nexus, you will not loose your current plan with verizon, i just bought one 2 weeks ago, went from3g phone no change.
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rice923 said:
QFT
My mom went from her 3G HTC Incredible 2 to the 4G Moto Razr, and she's still on her unlimited data. However, maybe you are working with an incompetent rep (which is always the case when their goal is to kick you off the unlimited plans), so ask before you ask them to do anything in regards to switching over from phone to phone.
Edit: after readin the OP, I don't even know if he has unlimited data. Furthermore, I don't know what the dilemma is. Buy the Gnex or wait for....??? Unicorn Nexus????
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How long ago did she do it, though? Round about the time the Droid Razr was their flagship handset, unlimited data was still an option, but is no longer the case. Currently, the only ways to keep unlimited is pay full retail or byod. Buying a subsidized device requires a plan change from unlimited and cannot be overridden by a CSR.
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vince7 said:
Don't buy the vzw gnx definitely wait or get the nexus 4. In July you'll have better options I assure you.
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From what I've read the Nexus 4 is never coming to Verizon so waiting gets you nothing. I guess you could hold out for the next VZW Nexus device but who knows when that will be.
I would not hesitate one second to pick up a used Nexus. It's a win all around as they relativity cheap and you don't have to deal with contract extensions. If you can keep your unlimited data then it's a no brainier.
As far as the phone itself goes, the ability to run pure Android, open bootloader, the dev community, and being able to flash the last ASOP as soon as it drops make it the best option out there.
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Buying a subsidized device requires a plan change from unlimited and cannot be overridden by a CSR.
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The OP is not talking about buying a subsidized device. He/she is considering buying a gnex off ebay.

pharpe said:
The OP is not talking about buying a subsidized device. He/she is considering buying a gnex off ebay.
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Which is why that reply was clearly not directed at the OP.
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Android 4.2.1 for Verizon

*sigh* and again Verizon's ruins our "Google experience" by being Verizon... I'm sure some (if not all) heard this: Sprint Galaxy Nexus Android 4.2.1 OTA Update (GA02) Available For Download Right Now From Google
I call _ALL_ Verizon customers who owns Galaxy Nexus to go to your Facebook/Twitters account and make a post on Verizon's official page and let them know about it!
Twitter / a1exus: @VerizonWireless Why is it ...

wont happen/matter.
verizon doesnt care and wont change their release cycle as they have to approve everything.

Zepius said:
wont happen/matter.
verizon doesnt care and wont change their release cycle as they have to approve everything.
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true, but hopefully this will speed process up a bit if a lot of people voice their opinion... i mean you can do nothing and just wait or you can say something and then go back to waiting... so I'd rather say something, and if a lot of people start talking they'd start moving too.

from my experience with verizon and the thunderbolt's ICS update...it's not worth the time to hit up the social networks.
they'll just tell you it's coming to silence you then months go by without an update.

Don't come on Xda and complain about OTA's.
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StephenMilone said:
from my experience with verizon and the thunderbolt's ICS update...it's not worth the time to hit up the social networks.
they'll just tell you it's coming to silence you then months go by without an update.
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right, been there done that... but if we won't try they'll just assume nobody really cares/wants it so they'll be on their slow roll...
i think we all should just hummer them anyway!

I just bugged them about it. But my expectations are low. Vzw either gives me the I don't know excuse. Or nothing at all

ironside2011 said:
I just bugged them about it. But my expectations are low. Vzw either gives me the I don't know excuse. Or nothing at all
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thanks for trying!

I always post those articles to VZW's fb wall lol. Not because I think it will accomplish anything but more because sometimes I like acting like a troll.

WiredPirate said:
I always post those articles to VZW's fb wall lol. Not because I think it will accomplish anything but more because sometimes I like acting like a troll.
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Lol. I like calling customer service at lunch to ask "is it done yet" and to call back the next day to ask "how about now?" because it costs them a little money. Yes, I really have nothing better to do at lunch while eating leftovers from last night at my desk.
Hey, at least I'm not filing BBB complaints against Motorola. :banghead:
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Lol. I like calling customer service at lunch to ask "is it done yet" and to call back the next day to ask "how about now?" because it costs them a little money. Yes, I really have nothing better to do at lunch while eating leftovers from last night at my desk.
Hey, at least I'm not filing BBB complaints against Motorola. :banghead:
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haha)) it's better to do it on social media, this way you get much better visibility and others sees that as well and hopefully verizon will feel somewhat ashamed and actually do something about it!

I used to have Verizon and now have sprint and struggling with school and full time job I sometimes forget to pay my bill. Verizon financial service cuts my service then makes me pay the re activation fee but with sprint I can call and tell them I can pay next week and they simply say okay.
But no 4g lte sucks but they do update the gnex rather quick.
Its a give or take with your service provider. I don't think there's that perfect provider right now.
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I already have 4.2.1 with my vzw nexus. I don't care about them releasing any thing.
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Esteway.619 said:
I already have 4.2.1 with my vzw nexus. I don't care about them releasing any thing.
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I assume you're not using stock, rather some custom ROM..
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Esteway.619 said:
I already have 4.2.1 with my vzw nexus. I don't care about them releasing any thing.
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Personally custom roms are better but its the principle that makes people go crazy for an update.
Also considering the vzw gnex have antenna issues, some people may actually need the update for the new radios
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Esteway.619 said:
I already have 4.2.1 with my vzw nexus. I don't care about them releasing any thing.
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Except for the radios!!

WiredPirate said:
Except for the radios!!
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Ya it would be nice If that's all they would release. But it is what it is. Not a big deal. At least for me.
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I just came from the droid charge and I wanted to always have the cool new updates but looks like I got bent over again.
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bubarub said:
I just came from the droid charge and I wanted to always have the cool new updates but looks like I got bent over again.
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Not really because there is always roms that have the lates update so compared to the charge that is still stuck on 2.3 dont really have to worry about that here.
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Esteway.619 said:
Not really because there is always roms that have the lates update so compared to the charge that is still stuck on 2.3 dont really have to worry about that here.
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the beauty about #nexus is that ROM doesn't have any customization which in a lot cases causing instability for every day use, so I'd rather use stock ROM, but back to my HTC Thunderbolt days, I couldn't stand stock so I went w/ CM7 and I _LOVED_ it!

Petition for binary release for the sprint galaxy nexus

https://www.change.org/petitions/sp...naries-for-the-sprint-galaxy-nexus-toroplus-2
Any tips on making this petition look better are welcome.
Maybe we can make something happen
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Why would Sprint have the rights to distribute other companies IP?

Tip: go in a time machine back to late 2011 when it mattered

poontab said:
Why would Sprint have the rights to distribute other companies IP?
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Your statement is invalid since it's an open source debacle
The boss is here

GoSooners345 said:
Your statement is invalid since it's an open source debacle
The boss is here
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Wth does that even mean? The binaries are not under an open source license.
*and again Sprint doesn't have anything to do with how the binaries, or anything they don't own, are licensed.

They're not entitled to but maybe seeing that others want the binaries and that people still care maybe they'll do it.
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Jimlarck said:
They're not entitled to but maybe seeing that others want the binaries and that people still care maybe they'll do it.
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They (Sprint) cannot do anything about no matter how many people request it from them. If you could actually get a response from Sprint it would either read "We don't know what you're talking about" or "We do not have control over licensing of other companies intellectual property". Read the licenses for the binaries. The companies you are entering an agreement with are Broadcom, Imagination Tech, Invensense, NXP, Samsung, Wildvine, & Google. Notice none of those companies are Sprint and none of them use an open source license because they are proprietary (read closed).
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Any tips on making this petition look better are welcome.
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Here's a tip ask the right company. That would be Samsung & Google. It is the CDMA/LTE binaries that hold up torospr in AOSP but it's likely they don't have anything that isn't broken to provide.

Agreed, Sprint can't do anything about it. For the toroplus, I think the weight falls almost entirely on Samsung.
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Yuhfhrh said:
Agreed, Sprint can't do anything about it. For the toroplus, I think the weight falls almost entirely on Samsung.
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In that case I don't see what the big problem it is to get it to us. The Verizon version is essentially using the same tech right?
But I guess there are legal loops to jump through that I don't know too much about.
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Garridon said:
In that case I don't see what the big problem it is to get it to us. The Verizon version is essentially using the same tech right?
But I guess there are legal loops to jump through that I don't know too much about.
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It's most likely a technical problem like it's always been on the Sprint Galaxy Nexus. Something is odd about the radio stack.

poontab said:
It's most likely a technical problem like it's always been on the Sprint Galaxy Nexus. Something is odd about the radio stack.
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It's a Ril-bridge issue, data transitions are wonky because the radio gets confused when jumping from 4G to 3G and vice versa.
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Jimlarck said:
It's a Ril-bridge issue, data transitions are wonky because the radio gets confused when jumping from 4G to 3G and vice versa.
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Is that the same problem as when you can not get any data on first boot and things like that?
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Is that the same problem as when you can not get any data on first boot and things like that?
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Yes, it is.
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Signed.
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poontab said:
Wth does that even mean? The binaries are not under an open source license.
*and again Sprint doesn't have anything to do with how the binaries, or anything they don't own, are licensed.
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Means he has no idea how to respond to you, but throwing some tech related words and "open source" around sounded like a pretty good reply. I'm not even sure there's enough people that own a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint, let alone know what binaries are that would sign such a petition. Aside from that, the White House would say in 1-2 years something like "We can't make Sprint do crap (who has nothing to do with it to begin with), because they're not part of the government."

Kinda thought this thread would have been dead by now
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Sprint took me off of contract onto m2m because of my complaints.
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4.3 update news

Didn't see a thread for this so here you go.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...id-4-3-galaxy-note-2-galaxy-s3-galaxy-s4.html
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This is blogspam.
Just go directly to the source article:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/25/expected-release-date-android-4-3-for-galaxy-s4-galaxy-s3-and-note-ii/

Does it really matter when samsux releases the update. T mobile still has to push it. And dancing on the broken record line, as long as people selling new phones control the updates..........
Master blaster still runs Bartertown
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Sigh, still kind of vague. I'm waiting for the push backs of December then they will say early 2014. Feels bad man.

Just smoke signals. It is getting old to be left behind on updates with new phones. Time for carriers to focus more on updates rather than sales.
Note II 4 life

robrooter said:
Just smoke signals. It is getting old to be left behind on updates with new phones. Time for carriers to focus more on updates rather than sales.
Note II 4 life
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While I tend to agree,
Updates don't make money for carriers, phone sales do. Why would they change that dynamic?
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

Coug76 said:
While I tend to agree,
Updates don't make money for carriers, phone sales do. Why would they change that dynamic?
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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Because happy customers=repeat clientele. Although I've never been a big Apple fan, I now realize how important Steve Jobs was to the tech industry.

If you want updates get a nexus, otherwise be happy with your cool big screen phone with a pen
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adamcooks said:
If you want updates get a nexus, otherwise be happy with your cool big screen phone with a pen
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What a good consumer you are... surely every corporation would dream that the entire world be filled with carbon copies of you.

Bruce lee roy said:
What a good consumer you are... surely every corporation would dream that the entire world be filled with carbon copies of you.
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Maybe it's just this will be the third time I have gone through this. First with the behold 2, was promised to us that we would get froyo, which never happened. Second with vibrant, which was promised gingerbread, which also never happened. After that I went through nexus s, nexus s4g then galaxy nexus. Gnex was a bad daddy phone that still can hang with the newest. I was on the fence whether to get nexus 4(which my wife has) or the note. I decided that the screen and pen were more important to me then having newest software. I knew 100% what I was getting into. In the past I have complained to tmobile, signed petitions, complained to samsux, with null results. You may call me a corporate sheep, while I call myself an educated consumer.
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customer is always right...i guess
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Although Samsung is grosley behind the Nexus line up. To be fair Samsung probably has the best track record in terms of updates. The GS2 is still being supported and rumored to get 4.3. And T-Mobile ain't bad seems like we get updates faster than the other US carriers. Although I am using At&t note on T-Mo. Who cares I am sure I will get 4.3 long before official update from any carrier.
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md1008 said:
Although Samsung is grosley behind the Nexus line up. To be fair Samsung probably has the best track record in terms of updates. The GS2 is still being supported and rumored to get 4.3. And T-Mobile ain't bad seems like we get updates faster than the other US carriers. Although I am using At&t note on T-Mo. Who cares I am sure I will get 4.3 long before official update from any carrier.
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one scenario would be once samsung releases the final build -- cyanogenmod gets ahold of it and and puts together a tmobile port for it -- and they start charging for roms maybe. they are in business now to make money and their stable roms tend to be just that.. i'd pay a reasonable amount for a stable rom with all the bells and whistles. I said CM since they went public as a corp- other modders have great roms too

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Although Samsung is grosley behind the Nexus line up. To be fair Samsung probably has the best track record in terms of updates. The GS2 is still being supported and rumored to get 4.3. And T-Mobile ain't bad seems like we get updates faster than the other US carriers. Although I am using At&t note on T-Mo. Who cares I am sure I will get 4.3 long before official update from any carrier.
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Doubt cm will port an OEM ROM, and especially now that they are technically a OEM. Their goal is to sell the cm experience. Now that they are a corporate they are now for profit. Now no one knows exactly how they are going to acneive that goal. Ads, teaming up with an OEM like Google does with lg and has done with Samsung and HTC. Maybe they will have their own app store. Maybe charge for the installer. Who knows
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Some what good news, there is a 4.3 leak for att note 2. No root method yet. I definitely don't recommended flashing if Cuz it will have ARF modem. I plan to flash soon. I have unlocked att note. Pretty sure if a leak doesn't come out there will be flashable zips soon which will make its way to T-Mobile
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Where did you hear of the leak? I haven't seen it yet
Why is the right door always locked?

hasbrobot said:
Where did you hear of the leak? I haven't seen it yet
Why is the right door always locked?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496292

Nice, thank you
Why is the right door always locked?

I'm not messing with it but it's hard to tell from the model number. Is it for att variant?
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I'm not messing with it but it's hard to tell from the model number. Is it for att variant?
Why is the right door always locked?
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Yup... Which means ours should be soon:good: