http://www.dailytech.com/Game+Over+LightSquared+Goes+Bankrupt/article24683.htm
Ouch! Sprint was planning to use LightSquared for it's LTE roll out.... So now what?
Last i checked they pulled out awhile back after giving them a couple extensions. So doesn't matter lol.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46759151/Sprint_Drops_Planned_Partnership_with_LightSquared
They will build it out themselves rather than paying another company like they did with WiMax or planned to with LTE.
I read an article that stated sprint was ready to roll out all by themselves if need be. I guess we will see!
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Actually in Chi-town Clearwire (which I believe is our 4G backbone out here) is doing the LTE rollout. We're supposed to be in the first phase - complete around June next year. (Source Here)
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http://www.dailytech.com/Game+Over+LightSquared+Goes+Bankrupt/article24683.htm
Ouch! Sprint was planning to use LightSquared for it's LTE roll out.... So now what?
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No BS from FCC about GPS interference and perhaps a better LTE deployment in the long run. Sprint was lucky to get out before it was to late
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Yeah I think sprint is fine, I remember reading a few months ago that sprint kicked lightsquared to the curb.
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Yeah I think sprint is fine, I remember reading a few months ago that sprint kicked lightsquared to the curb.
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The FCC kicked LightSquared to the curb, and Sprint had a contractual out, if the FCC was to do so.
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They should also do that to clearwire i know they have 4g wimax but they been ripping people off since day one sorry if i put this on here
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I can't believe there are still misconceptions about the Sprint and Lightsquared's partnership....it was always meant to be just a source of revenue for Sprint, as they were going to be paid to manage the roll out of Lightsquared's network, and get first dibs on wholesale chunks of that network.
The plan all along for Sprint's LTE was for Sprint to roll out their own. The deal with Lightsquared was just sort of a perfect storm, as Sprint just so happened to have the opportunity to make that deal in the middle of Network Vision.
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Sprint is handling their LTE rollout, not Lightsquared, and not Clear(like with Wimax) The only thing Sprint would have gotten out of the Lightsquared deal is money and another band to use. Lightsquared was going to pay Sprint to bounce off their towers. It doesn't change the deployment of their LTE on the 1900 band.
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Sprint is handling their LTE rollout, not Lightsquared, and not Clear(like with Wimax) The only thing Sprint would have gotten out of the Lightsquared deal is money and another band to use. Lightsquared was going to pay Sprint to bounce off their towers. It doesn't change the deployment of their LTE on the 1900 band.
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If that is true, then why this?
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/01/sprint-and-clearwire-ink-new-4g-wimax-and-lte-agreement/
Or this?
http://www.eedailynews.com/2012/05/clearwire-lines-up-sequans-and-qualcomm.html
Considering Sprint is the majority owner of Clearwire stock, it would be foolish to spend that much $$$ and not reinvest it in its own interests first. There seems to be a lot of confusion out there on this topic but short of a Sprint exec or a PR saying otherwise it's hard to believe they won't be involved.
And Sprint is not the only one doing the build out..Samsung lucent and ericsson are helping to get it done faster
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And Sprint is not the only one doing the build out..Samsung lucent and ericsson are helping to get it done faster
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Those are the vendors that Sprint has sourced the network to, depending on geographic locations.
Sprint is deploying LTE on their own spectrum, hosted on their own sites, with upgraded backhaul.
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Those are the vendors that Sprint has sourced the network to, depending on geographic locations.
Sprint is deploying LTE on their own spectrum, hosted on their own sites, with upgraded backhaul.
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That's what I mean it's not just Sprint they are getting help to deploy it faster
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That's what I mean it's not just Sprint they are getting help to deploy it faster
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It is all outsourced to those 3. "Not just Sprint" makes it seem like Sprint has their own employees doing the deployment in some areas and these 3 are just helping out.
But lightsquared was doing the rollout here in California and they were already falling behind schedule. It doesn't look good at all.
But hey, they never did finish the WiMAX network here too.
Look at the places they are launching LTE service, Sprint is the laughingstock of the mobile cell business.
Same sh1t, different day.
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But lightsquared was doing the rollout here in California and they were already falling behind schedule. It doesn't look good at all.
But hey, they never did finish the WiMAX network here too.
Look at the places they are launching LTE service, Sprint is the laughingstock of the mobile cell business.
Same sh1t, different day.
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Sprint contracted Alcatel, Samsung, and Ericsson for the rollout. Lightsquared is not involved one single bit.
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If that is true, then why this?
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/01/sprint-and-clearwire-ink-new-4g-wimax-and-lte-agreement/
Or this?
http://www.eedailynews.com/2012/05/clearwire-lines-up-sequans-and-qualcomm.html
Considering Sprint is the majority owner of Clearwire stock, it would be foolish to spend that much $$$ and not reinvest it in its own interests first. There seems to be a lot of confusion out there on this topic but short of a Sprint exec or a PR saying otherwise it's hard to believe they won't be involved.
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And again, the Clear deal is for their current Wimax and LTE on the 2500 band. Has zero effect on the current rollout on the 1900 band, it's all Sprint.
There was going to be LTE on 3 or 4 different bands if everything went through
-1900 and 800, is Sprints. 1900 is what is currently being deployed and Sprint is in control. They contracted out Samsung, Alcatel, and Ericsson for the rollout. 800 will come once iDen is de-commissioned.
-The Lightsquared deal would have been another band, but would have been Lightsquareds to deal with
-And Clears 2500 band would be the last
The only one currently being deployed is on the 1900, which owned/operated by Sprint. They are in control of the rollout. It is their network. Not someone elses, like with Clear.
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Sprint contracted Alcatel, Samsung, and Ericsson for the rollout. Lightsquared is not involved one single bit.
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And again, the Clear deal is for their current Wimax and LTE on the 2500 band. Has zero effect on the current rollout on the 1900 band, it's all Sprint.
There was going to be LTE on 3 or 4 different bands if everything went through
-1900 and 800, is Sprints. 1900 is what is currently being deployed and Sprint is in control. They contracted out Samsung, Alcatel, and Ericsson for the rollout. 800 will come once iDen is de-commissioned.
-The Lightsquared deal would have been another band, but would have been Lightsquareds to deal with
-And Clears 2500 band would be the last
The only one currently being deployed is on the 1900, which owned/operated by Sprint. They are in control of the rollout. It is their network. Not someone elses, like with Clear.
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Correct.
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The FCC kicked LightSquared to the curb, and Sprint had a contractual out, if the FCC was to do so.
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well i think the other guy had it right as I read that Sprint gave Lightsquared a few extensions to get FCC approval, when Lightsquared couldn't get it, Sprint told them to take a hike.
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This is likely a dumb question, buts its worth a shot, do any of you Sprint insiders have any info on some future WiMax cities? I have used 4G going through Nashville and Atlanta, but I would really love it have it here in Louisville.
Its just frustrating that a city with a metro population of 1.4 Million doesn't have 4G, yet smaller towns like Lansing, MI and Wichita Falls, TX do.
It has to do with the way Clear does business. They will go into small cities because there is less competition. Grand Rapids, Mi, for example, gave Clear tax incentives to build their network there. They are in a lot of larger and mid-sized cities, but they are going to go where there is less competition, or some other type of incentive to go there. Sprint is going to have a good amount of say in where Clear builds out since they own a majority of Clear, but Clear still needs to be profitable (which they are not), or at least try.
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Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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Where's your source on this?
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Where's your source on this?
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Excellent question. Would give you thanks but apparently I'm limited to 5 a day.
I work at a Sprint service & got to listen in on a conference call with the sprint engineers. I shouldn't have said near future cause ETA is 2012 for it.
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Where's your source on this?
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There's a topic on Engadget about it. http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ur-to-six-months/&category=classic&postPage=1
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Sooo...if sprint did decide to switch to LTE...would that make us obsolete? I'm assuming I wouldn't get "4g" since my phone is wimax right? If that's the case, there would be some serious hell to pay since 4g and sprints pricing is the only reason I got rid of my 4 year old xv6800 and switched from verizon.
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Sooo...if sprint did decide to switch to LTE...would that make us obsolete? I'm assuming I wouldn't get "4g" since my phone is wimax right? If that's the case, there would be some serious hell to pay since 4g and sprints pricing is the only reason I got rid of my 4 year old xv6800 and switched from verizon.
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Thats a good question? anyone want to answer this?
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My best guess would be that the current 4G hardware would be fine. Clear is where Sprint gets their WiMax and Clear has a lot of customers using WiMax for home internet with a lot of equipment and I don't see it being cost effective to try and get everyone on LTE at the same time. Sprint and Clear would probably shift everyone over to LTE at some point, but that would be years down the road after LTE comes out. Kind of like the way the cell providers handled the switch from analog to digital. Just a guess, but when LTE comes out, there will be overlap while they sell out of their WiMax equipment as cheaper phones and sell new LTE equipment as their premium phones and they will support WiMax for 3-5 years longer. This is all conjecture, but I think this is the way it will happen.
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Yeah, and lets be honest with ourselves too...by the time this would actually happen across their entire current 3G spectrum, most people would already be on new phones by then anyway, regardless of how happy or not they are on their current one anyway.
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I work at a Sprint service & got to listen in on a conference call with the sprint engineers. I shouldn't have said near future cause ETA is 2012 for it.
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I call BS.
While Sprint can/will be able to flick a switch and enable LTE, there is no good reason to do it unless they want to BYOD Verizon phones. Which might be a reason to do it.
WiMAX has done better than LTE across the board. WiMAX comes from an IT background, with it's endless dev cycle and fierce price competition. LTE comes from a telco background, with it's bloat and ponderous plodding.
This means LTE deployments are very slow but work well. WiMax customers are going to suffer through bugs but they will be patched and reved through quickly.
Sprint has never has GSM phones, tho they are more common. Why Sprint would give up there mufti year head start to switch tech is beyond me.
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I call BS.
While Sprint can/will be able to flick a switch and enable LTE, there is no good reason to do it unless they want to BYOD Verizon phones. Which might be a reason to do it.
WiMAX has done better than LTE across the board. WiMAX comes from an IT background, with it's endless dev cycle and fierce price competition. LTE comes from a telco background, with it's bloat and ponderous plodding.
This means LTE deployments are very slow but work well. WiMax customers are going to suffer through bugs but they will be patched and reved through quickly.
Sprint has never has GSM phones, tho they are more common. Why Sprint would give up there mufti year head start to switch tech is beyond me.
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Not to knock anything you're saying but in my opinion, Wi-max isn't really good.
Sure, it has great range. Building penetration however, sucks. 2.5 ghz spectrum is not good IMO. Right now Verizon is testing VOLTE, voWIMAX on phones will be awful. It works well on Clear because most people put their modems in one spot and that's it. For phones, it would call for frequent disconnects.
I love Sprint, but after the froyo debacle, and me playing around with LTE 4G.
I believe LTE is the way to go
WiMAX is an open spec and does not have a frequency requirement. LTE is worse at building penetration then WiMAX, but that is not important. It is about frequency.
Sprint could run WiMax over 800 MHZ just fine. Poof no more reason for LTE.
But penetration, I understand, is not going to be a problem when we get around to 802.16m.
LTE is a closed, expensive, protocol. It is not network centric, it's Telco centric.
Anywhere in louisiana Please
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Its just frustrating that a city with a metro population of 1.4 Million doesn't have 4G, yet smaller towns like Lansing, MI and Wichita Falls, TX do.
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Oh that frustrates you?
How about this, Sebring, a city about 60 miles west of me has 4G via Clear. It is only Sebring, not bleed over from a neighboring city or anything like that.
Their population is around 10,000.
Suck on that for a while.
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Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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+1 I met a guy that works for ERICSSON which that company maintains Sprint towers here in Austin Texas.
He told me that LTE is more reliable/cheaper than clear-wire 4g. And not to expect anything till 2013/2014.
And he also told me that clear-wire 4g is not making profit.
If this is true ..I really don't know
Personally I think 4g sucks..unreliable
Why you do not want LTE
The thread is long and through. I think I'ma sig it.
According to Cnet's sources, on October 7th Sprint is going to announce that it is discontinuing its Wimaxipad rollout and moving to lte, leaving our phones behind.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20112095&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-94
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According to Cnet's sources, on October 7th Sprint is going to announce that it is discontinuing its Wimaxipad rollout and moving to lte, leaving our phones behind.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20112095&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-94
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Really? Did you really have to post this hyperbole?
"Leaving our phones behind"??? Yeah, in 2 or more years.
Jesus christ people...
EDIT: This is also months old news around here.
even if they did, I wont be letting this thing go until sprint gets the prime or HD. I love this phone too much
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According to Cnet's sources, on October 7th Sprint is going to announce that it is discontinuing its Wimaxipad rollout and moving to lte, leaving our phones behind.
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Old news. Wimax has been deployed in a new city for quite sometime and all the indications were that Sprint was going LTE. Existing Wimax signals likely won't be turned off for a couple of years. LTE phones won't be showing up on Sprint for 6-12 months, or right about when I'm ready to upgrade to a new phone anyway.
Mhh not interesting ... Im more pissed that they ended their premeir program... That was ****ty.
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Mhh not interesting ... Im more pissed that they ended their premeir program... That was ****ty.
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It was the main reason I liked sprint. Lol
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It was the main reason I liked sprint. Lol
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Atleast i get one more upgrade
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Looks like ima have to get the lte phone next upgrade
Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed
For years, Sprint has relied on Clearwire, which uses an alternate, but older, 4G technology called WiMax.
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...they dont even know what they're talking about and are reporting on rumors...lovely.
Anyway, any network deactivation would take quite a while before it actually happens.
By the time it does, if it does, no one on XDA will have a Wimax Sprint phone anyway.
Sprint announced they were shutting down the iDen network a year ago... that won't even be done until 2013.
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It was the main reason I liked sprint. Lol
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I know right dude .. makes you just want to leave them .. i only see them going down the ****ter with these "changes" they're making to bring the damn iPhone to their network ... it's sad.
Sprint is still rolling out WiMax, as a matter of fact it was just turned on here in Naples, Fl. about a week ago. Also, Sprint has stated they will continue to support their 3G network and WiMax network as well as they have announced plans to develop a third LTE network in conjunction with Clear and a 4th LTE network in conjunction with Lighsquared. Sprint also has the ability to run a software update on their WiMax towers which will allow WiMax devices to run on the LTE networks so there is really nothing to be concerned about. Sprint is also planning to phase out the IDEN network in 2012.
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Sprint also has the ability to run a software update on their WiMax towers which will allow WiMax devices to run on the LTE networks
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[Citation Needed]
It's not that I don't believe you...it's just that...I don't believe you.
What I do know about WiMax and LTE is that the base stations, aside from minor hardware difference (coax vs fiber to antenna/emitter) they are only a software patch away from each other.
I have read that multiple times from multiple sources.
I have also read that such a thing is not possible with our devices. A WiMax devices is a WiMax device. Period.
Though what you say, hopefully on purpose, is very intriguing though potentially confusing. "Allow WiMax devices to run on LTE networks" ...when you look at it that way it doesn't seem so unreasonable...suggesting an abstraction layer?
Either way, citation needed. pics or it didn't happen, etc.
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Sprint also has the ability to run a software update on their WiMax towers which will allow WiMax devices to run on the LTE networks so there is really nothing to be concerned about
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Sorry but no.
That's like suggesting a software update will allow a GSM phone work on a CDMA network.
Inb4norevbnowdroppingwimaxdrama
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Yup... this is fncking absurd. I understand, not everybody can afford to upgrade their phone every 3-6 months...but Sprint isn't going to leave anyone behind.
If it was Rev.B we wouldn't get "left behind"....everyone on advanced new phones chugging through data on Rev.B would free up (tons) of bandwidth for us. If it is LTE we wouldn't get "left behind" because just dropping support for something is unheard of in this industry...do you know when AMPS (Analog Mobile Phone Service) was finally officially removed from service? 2008...that's "1G" Service (2G is digital voice), started service in the US in 1983. Sprint was the first to offer digital service in like 1997 or 1998 IIRC....so it took 10 effing years to finally kill that legacy service.
Stop worrying. Even when they want to murder tech quickly it's nearly impossible...aside from everyone being concerned with their own tiny little selfish "me and my phone" bubble just step back and consider how as many as TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE would be potentially affected by it...and aside from your selfish little bubble that includes you and your new toy--which, for the record, I do think Sprint wouldn't think twice about alienating--I'm willing to bet that Sprint would like to avoid the backlash of millions of people.
I dunno...either that or you wasted your entire graduation gift money on a paperweight. Your call, really.
I would rather have decent 3g coverage in my apartment lol. A block south and there's awesome
Signal. Where at my apartment I barely get 3 bars if I'm lucky. Lte or wimax, I just want coverage.
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We knew they were jumping over to LTE. However, they know they can't just go shutting down WiMax service--especially while still selling and releasing new WiMax phones. Don't worry lads, our phones won't be going unsupported for several years yet.
I just hope they expand wimax more
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...I dunno about all that.
Though I'm not sure of Clearwire's plans. I'd check into that. If Clearwire expands then we'll probably get access to their network until the official EOL for their contract...which is probably measured in years.
Ok, that was weird my post disappeared or I edited it on accident daneurysm.
Here was the link to the latest news on Sprint's network. http://www.dailywireless.org/2011/09/27/sprints-lte-plans-leaked/
AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=MA:AB:20120109:CES:GLX:NXS:300x1050
16GB version huh? The price will probably undercut the VZW version..
Then that explains the Sprint Nexus thread from yesterday. Too ouSprint advertises it with LTE even though Sprint has no LTE network yet and will be in at most 4 mid sized markets by July.
I just left Sprint for Verizon for the Nexus and LTE. I have banned Sprint for life becuase of thet horrible Wimax service. It will take Sprint several years to get LTE to the coverage level Verizon has today. And by then....
Sprint said that everywhere that has 3G will have LTE, and if I'm not mistaken, the roll-out is to be completed by the end of this year. However, where I live in CA, I have 4G everywhere anyway.
cool, but after whole Wimax rollout, or lack there of..... I'm sticking with Verizon.
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Sprint said that everywhere that has 3G will have LTE, and if I'm not mistaken, the roll-out is to be completed by the end of this year. However, where I live in CA, I have 4G everywhere anyway.
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Lol. They will not have their LTE roll out completed by the end of the year.
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Then that explains the Sprint Nexus thread from yesterday. Too ouSprint advertises it with LTE even though Sprint has no LTE network yet and will be in at most 4 mid sized markets by July.
I just left Sprint for Verizon for the Nexus and LTE. I have banned Sprint for life becuase of thet horrible Wimax service. It will take Sprint several years to get LTE to the coverage level Verizon has today. And by then....
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I feel the same way. Sprint is just too late getting into the game to be competitive for at least another 2+ years.
EDIT: Just noticed they are specifically saying it will come with Google Wallet...
These talks of being late to the game are absurd. Sprint was first with 3G, first with 4G, and will be first with LTE-Advanced. Just because they didn't cover where you live doesn't mean tons of people weren't covered.
I thought the agreement was already made for Sprint to utilize Verizons LTE as they do 3G now?
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These talks of being late to the game are absurd. Sprint was first with 3G, first with 4G, and will be first with LTE-Advanced. Just because they didn't cover where you live doesn't mean tons of people weren't covered.
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not absurd. If they want to compete with Verizon, they better damn well compete, not just be first to do something then allow Verizon to blow by them like they're standing still.
They are competing. That's why they're going to be rolling out their LTE network so fast. http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/?m=false
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These talks of being late to the game are absurd. Sprint was first with 3G, first with 4G, and will be first with LTE-Advanced. Just because they didn't cover where you live doesn't mean tons of people weren't covered.
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Verizon LTE rollout begins: December 2010.
Sprint's LTE rollout begins: Mid 2012.
I'd say that's pretty late considering Verizon has LTE in like 190 cities right now.
Sprints rollout already began, and you act like Sprints been stuck on 3G since then. They haven't, we've had 4G for years.
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Sprints rollout already began, and you act like Sprints been stuck on 3G since then. They haven't, we've had 4G for years.
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Dude, I've had Sprint for over 4 years. Now I have Verizon. Compared to the overall coverage and consistent network speeds, Sprint BLOWS.
Yeah well i was a total Sprint "fanboy" for quite a while... was a customer since 2000 until last month.
After putting up terrible 3g speeds for years and no Wimax in my area (Buffalo, NY) on my Evo 4G(paying an extra $15 a month for having a 4G phone), and a Nexus S 4G, and then an Evo 3D.... i finally had enough.
Verizon has been fantastic and i don't see any reason to go to Sprint at any time in the foreseeable future.
BTW, i'm not arguing, Sprint is probably great in some areas. That was a bit of venting, from all the years of crap on Sprint in Buffalo, NY. lol.
Just ditched Sprint for the Verizon Nexus. I'll totally consider going back to Sprint in another 19.25 months if this whole network vision thing actually plays out like they say it will.
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These talks of being late to the game are absurd. Sprint was first with 3G, first with 4G, and will be first with LTE-Advanced. Just because they didn't cover where you live doesn't mean tons of people weren't covered.
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I am pretty sure we still don't have 4G in Greater Metro Detroit area with Sprint, where as Verizon' LTE was launched later than Sprint's WiMAX and already covered the area pretty well...
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I am pretty sure we still don't have 4G in Greater Metro Detroit area with Sprint, where as Verizon' LTE was launched later than Sprint's WiMAX and already covered the area pretty well...
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As I said earlier, just because you don't have it doesn't mean other people don't.
Sprint's marketing campaign has a Popeye influence: "we will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."
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Sprints rollout already began, and you act like Sprints been stuck on 3G since then. They haven't, we've had 4G for years.
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You've had WiMax in very limited capacity with very little real-world availability since mid 2010. That isn't "years" of having 4G.
Look at it whatever way you want, Sprint is never going to be able to keep up or roll out LTE as fast as Verizon. They don't have the money to do it. They're talking about their first markets (only 4) in "mid 2012". And it will require all new devices because its not compatible with current WiMax ones. They would have to launch 100's of markets in 2012 to match Verizon.
I looked at my notification bar and had full 4G bars. I couldn't believe it!
Edit: And full bars which I never got on regular 4G. I'm in San Antonio btw.
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Wow, things are looking up for Sprint. I left them months ago back when I had my EVO 3D. I could not stand terrible 3G and coverage.
That's a lot faster than some of the other Sprint LTE Tests I've seen. Probably not "live" yet, but testing. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Hope I can lte here in marble falls... its a little bit away from Austin. at least a taste I don't need 33mbs at least 5 or so.
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Wow, things are looking up for Sprint. I left them months ago back when I had my EVO 3D. I could not stand terrible 3G and coverage.
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Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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Sprint it's supposed to be done with lte by the end of2013 where U get your info...that is every tower with 3g will have lte
It's not just Sprint doing the roll out it was broken into like 5 areas and Samsung ericsson lucent are working on it too....
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martonikaj said:
Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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You don't know what you're talking about.
Not getting any LTE in Houston yet
Good speeds, but the ping is about 3 times what I see with LTE on VZW
Smokeey said:
That's a lot faster than some of the other Sprint LTE Tests I've seen. Probably not "live" yet, but testing. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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I haven't seen anyone else talking about the Sprint LTE. Have they just been testing it in different areas or have you seen official Sprint tests? I googled, but couldn't find anyone else talking about it. I'd be interested to see what other people's experience with it was, i.e. if it has been improving, signal strength, etc.
And sadly it lasted less than an hour. Luckily I caught it. But everything was extremely fast. It was awesome. If LTE gets full bars in my house I might consider getting rid of my internet...
Epix4G said:
Sprint it's supposed to be done with lte by the end of2013 where U get your info...that is every tower with 3g will have lte
It's not just Sprint doing the roll out it was broken into like 5 areas and Samsung ericsson lucent are working on it too....
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milan03 said:
You don't know what you're talking about.
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And why don't I? Show me their national WiMax coverage that they rolled out in the last 2 years.... right, it doesn't exist. Same will be for LTE. Sorry, but just because Sprint says they're going to roll it out by the end of 2013 doesn't mean anything to me or any other slightly skeptical person.
Believe me, I'm pulling for them. I'd love to see Sprint step it up big time and challenge AT&T and Verizon's LTE efforts, but I find it hard to believe that Sprint will ever be able to catch up. Even if they completely covered their 3G network with LTE in that time (which they just can't physically/monetarily do), they won't be catching Verizon or even AT&T by that point.
Lol right sprint won't do it everyone forgets clear was the primary doing the rollouts and yeah. The BOD wants this to happen I am sure they will make sure it happens by the deadline or before and then once that is done they can hopefully jump it down to the 800mhz band as well. I think it will and if not 24 months from now I will move on but there are more posts of LTE then I saw of WiMAX when that started.
Not to mention other cell companies that work with sprint well one anyways atm is also helping.
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derekwilkinson said:
Not getting any LTE in Houston yet
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Neither am I
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Hows the signal in house or in building
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martonikaj said:
And why don't I? Show me their national WiMax coverage that they rolled out in the last 2 years.... right, it doesn't exist. Same will be for LTE. Sorry, but just because Sprint says they're going to roll it out by the end of 2013 doesn't mean anything to me or any other slightly skeptical person.
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When Sprint saw the writing on the wall for WiMax, they did the smart thing and stopped investing in it.
Good for them. They instead began their LTE preparations along with beginning their Network Vision deployment. They accelerated their 800mhz refarm.
Believe me, I'm pulling for them. I'd love to see Sprint step it up big time and challenge AT&T and Verizon's LTE efforts, but I find it hard to believe that Sprint will ever be able to catch up. Even if they completely covered their 3G network with LTE in that time (which they just can't physically/monetarily do), they won't be catching Verizon or even AT&T by that point.
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Sprint has never been able to compete on coverage - 4g or otherwise. Hell, their native CDMA network is smaller than T-Mobile's network. That said, Sprint has a big ol boatload of spectrum, which means they can continue to provide unlimited data (or eventually, faster speeds) far longer than their competition can.
Now, I'm a T-Mobile customer as well as a Sprint customer, and was about to drop my Sprint line for a prepaid line, but Sprint (and T-Mobile) are on the upswing and I very much like the progress they're making.
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Lol right sprint won't do it everyone forgets clear was the primary doing the rollouts and yeah. The BOD wants this to happen I am sure they will make sure it happens by the deadline or before and then once that is done they can hopefully jump it down to the 800mhz band as well. I think it will and if not 24 months from now I will move on but there are more posts of LTE then I saw of WiMAX when that started.
Not to mention other cell companies that work with sprint well one anyways atm is also helping.
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I think Sprint could potentially do better than AT&T with their LTE rollout as AT&T seems to be going pretty slowly about it. However, VZW is lighting up more and more areas every few weeks, so I don't think anyone will catch them until VZW has started moving to another network standard. I have read that Sprint's LTE plans are very aggressive, so it could just be they are installing and testing the network in several large markets right now to turn on several cities all at once rather than just a small handful like AT&T did at the start.
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When Sprint saw the writing on the wall for WiMax, they did the smart thing and stopped investing in it.
Good for them. They instead began their LTE preparations along with beginning their Network Vision deployment. They accelerated their 800mhz refarm.
Sprint has never been able to compete on coverage - 4g or otherwise. Hell, their native CDMA network is smaller than T-Mobile's network. That said, Sprint has a big ol boatload of spectrum, which means they can continue to provide unlimited data (or eventually, faster speeds) far longer than their competition can.
Now, I'm a T-Mobile customer as well as a Sprint customer, and was about to drop my Sprint line for a prepaid line, but Sprint (and T-Mobile) are on the upswing and I very much like the progress they're making.
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Interesting theory, but Verizon and even ATT will complete their rollout before Sprint does. So by the time Sprint gets to enjoying LTE across the network, Verizon and ATT will be looking at deploying VoLTE.
They can have buttloads of spectrum, but they don't have the resources to compete with rollouts or to to advance in a timely manner. They will always be playing third base.
Heck, MetroPCS rolled out LTE before them (Verizon too, for that matter).
I managed to get a weak signal in parts of the KC metro, probably coming from the area around the Sprint Campus in Overland Park. I may drive closer later today and see what kind of speed I can get.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653400
looks like alot of towers are becoming live pretty quickly. there is my thread from yesterday on it.
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Interesting theory, but Verizon and even ATT will complete their rollout before Sprint does. So by the time Sprint gets to enjoying LTE across the network, Verizon and ATT will be looking at deploying VoLTE.
They can have buttloads of spectrum, but they don't have the resources to compete with rollouts or to to advance in a timely manner. They will always be playing third base.
Heck, MetroPCS rolled out LTE before them (Verizon too, for that matter).
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Any word from those companies on when their current coverage will be covered in LTE?
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Summer is here and so is the first wave of Sprint LTE markets. Today, CEO, Dan Hesse, announced that Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Kansas City and San Antonio will have LTE launched on July 15th. Additional market launches in 2012 will be announced later this year. By the end of 2013, we expect to have largely completed the build out of the 4G LTE nationwide network covering 250 million people across the United States.
As part of the Sprint’s Network Vision promise, we are building an all-new, nationwide 3G and 4G LTE network. This means that whether you are using a smartphone to share a video or to check the Web, Sprint 4G LTE will make it faster. In addition to LTE, the new network provides significant enhancements to Sprint 3G service. You can expect to experience better signal strength, less dropped/blocked calls, faster data speeds, expanded coverage and better overall performance as the improvements roll out across the country.
“While other carriers are simply rolling out their version of a 4G LTE network, we are rolling out an all-new network that will also significantly improve the 3G and voice experience over time – at no extra charge to the customer,” said Hesse.
Source:http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...network-vision-sprint-4glte-arrives-july-15th
Where is NYC??!!
EvanWasHere said:
Where is NYC??!!
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Amen brother!
Thought baltimore was in 1st wave?
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Anyone hear any rumors for the Chicago area?
Also, will this enable data AND voice at the same time on LTE? How about on 3G?
I'm in Houston so I'm happy. I just hope I get this sgs3 device by then.
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Come on over 3 million people in los Angeles lol
Sprints network needs a lot of work I hope these upgrades end up being worth the wait. The last thing the US market needs is something bad happening to Sprint. T-Mobile is already kind of iffy.
As usual, for folks in other cities the best informed speculation about future rollouts is to be found at S4GRU.
What the hell!! Stillwater, Oklahoma has nearly 50,000 people! Why would we not be first to get LTE? This is a bad move by Sprint. I know at LEAST a couple people that might switch carriers because of this, so they'll be out 10's of dollars. You should all demand Stillwater be fist on the list. It's important to you.
I'm done with Sprint. Way too little, way too late. The second my Verizon S3 arrives, i'm porting my number over and buying out the rest of my Sprint contract. It's worth it to me to switch to a carrier that has.. oh let's see... data and voice! Not to mention already having an LTE network in place already and growing all the time.
I am confused why people are upset, they announced these cities months ago. How is this such a surprise. I live in Baltimore we where added to the first round, but won't be lit up on july 15th. My 3g is pretty good in Baltimore so i can wait a month or two.
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What the hell!! Stillwater, Oklahoma has nearly 50,000 people! Why would we not be first to get LTE? This is a bad move by Sprint. I know at LEAST a couple people that might switch carriers because of this, so they'll be out 10's of dollars. You should all demand Stillwater be fist on the list. It's important to you.
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Haha I see what you did there
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Going to switch to sprint, I can cancel my contract with tmobile right? If it hasn't been 14days?
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well for the prices that Verizon charges, I would hope they offered a better service
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Come on over 3 million people in los Angeles lol
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We have over 8 million in NYC and we still got nothing to show for it, but i'm glad KC and San Antonio are taken care of first.
The Sprint LTE rollout schedule is being tracked here. They plan to cover over 130M population with LTE by end of this year and the entire Sprint footprint by 2013. Then they'll start rolling out LTE on 800Mhz which will significantly increase coverage.
Cities...
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
Here's the Network Vision plan (second half of document)...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6m5k0tjsegmms75/Sprint Vision.PDF