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Future WiMax coverage?

This is likely a dumb question, buts its worth a shot, do any of you Sprint insiders have any info on some future WiMax cities? I have used 4G going through Nashville and Atlanta, but I would really love it have it here in Louisville.
Its just frustrating that a city with a metro population of 1.4 Million doesn't have 4G, yet smaller towns like Lansing, MI and Wichita Falls, TX do.

It has to do with the way Clear does business. They will go into small cities because there is less competition. Grand Rapids, Mi, for example, gave Clear tax incentives to build their network there. They are in a lot of larger and mid-sized cities, but they are going to go where there is less competition, or some other type of incentive to go there. Sprint is going to have a good amount of say in where Clear builds out since they own a majority of Clear, but Clear still needs to be profitable (which they are not), or at least try.
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Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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giantmidget said:
Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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Where's your source on this?

obiwrx_3zero3 said:
Where's your source on this?
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Excellent question. Would give you thanks but apparently I'm limited to 5 a day.

I work at a Sprint service & got to listen in on a conference call with the sprint engineers. I shouldn't have said near future cause ETA is 2012 for it.
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obiwrx_3zero3 said:
Where's your source on this?
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There's a topic on Engadget about it. http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ur-to-six-months/&category=classic&postPage=1
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Sooo...if sprint did decide to switch to LTE...would that make us obsolete? I'm assuming I wouldn't get "4g" since my phone is wimax right? If that's the case, there would be some serious hell to pay since 4g and sprints pricing is the only reason I got rid of my 4 year old xv6800 and switched from verizon.
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squshy 7 said:
Sooo...if sprint did decide to switch to LTE...would that make us obsolete? I'm assuming I wouldn't get "4g" since my phone is wimax right? If that's the case, there would be some serious hell to pay since 4g and sprints pricing is the only reason I got rid of my 4 year old xv6800 and switched from verizon.
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Thats a good question? anyone want to answer this?

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Thats a good question? anyone want to answer this?
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My best guess would be that the current 4G hardware would be fine. Clear is where Sprint gets their WiMax and Clear has a lot of customers using WiMax for home internet with a lot of equipment and I don't see it being cost effective to try and get everyone on LTE at the same time. Sprint and Clear would probably shift everyone over to LTE at some point, but that would be years down the road after LTE comes out. Kind of like the way the cell providers handled the switch from analog to digital. Just a guess, but when LTE comes out, there will be overlap while they sell out of their WiMax equipment as cheaper phones and sell new LTE equipment as their premium phones and they will support WiMax for 3-5 years longer. This is all conjecture, but I think this is the way it will happen.
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Yeah, and lets be honest with ourselves too...by the time this would actually happen across their entire current 3G spectrum, most people would already be on new phones by then anyway, regardless of how happy or not they are on their current one anyway.

giantmidget said:
I work at a Sprint service & got to listen in on a conference call with the sprint engineers. I shouldn't have said near future cause ETA is 2012 for it.
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I call BS.
While Sprint can/will be able to flick a switch and enable LTE, there is no good reason to do it unless they want to BYOD Verizon phones. Which might be a reason to do it.
WiMAX has done better than LTE across the board. WiMAX comes from an IT background, with it's endless dev cycle and fierce price competition. LTE comes from a telco background, with it's bloat and ponderous plodding.
This means LTE deployments are very slow but work well. WiMax customers are going to suffer through bugs but they will be patched and reved through quickly.
Sprint has never has GSM phones, tho they are more common. Why Sprint would give up there mufti year head start to switch tech is beyond me.

LargePrime said:
I call BS.
While Sprint can/will be able to flick a switch and enable LTE, there is no good reason to do it unless they want to BYOD Verizon phones. Which might be a reason to do it.
WiMAX has done better than LTE across the board. WiMAX comes from an IT background, with it's endless dev cycle and fierce price competition. LTE comes from a telco background, with it's bloat and ponderous plodding.
This means LTE deployments are very slow but work well. WiMax customers are going to suffer through bugs but they will be patched and reved through quickly.
Sprint has never has GSM phones, tho they are more common. Why Sprint would give up there mufti year head start to switch tech is beyond me.
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Not to knock anything you're saying but in my opinion, Wi-max isn't really good.
Sure, it has great range. Building penetration however, sucks. 2.5 ghz spectrum is not good IMO. Right now Verizon is testing VOLTE, voWIMAX on phones will be awful. It works well on Clear because most people put their modems in one spot and that's it. For phones, it would call for frequent disconnects.
I love Sprint, but after the froyo debacle, and me playing around with LTE 4G.
I believe LTE is the way to go

WiMAX is an open spec and does not have a frequency requirement. LTE is worse at building penetration then WiMAX, but that is not important. It is about frequency.
Sprint could run WiMax over 800 MHZ just fine. Poof no more reason for LTE.
But penetration, I understand, is not going to be a problem when we get around to 802.16m.
LTE is a closed, expensive, protocol. It is not network centric, it's Telco centric.

Anywhere in louisiana Please

ryno502 said:
Its just frustrating that a city with a metro population of 1.4 Million doesn't have 4G, yet smaller towns like Lansing, MI and Wichita Falls, TX do.
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Oh that frustrates you?
How about this, Sebring, a city about 60 miles west of me has 4G via Clear. It is only Sebring, not bleed over from a neighboring city or anything like that.
Their population is around 10,000.
Suck on that for a while.

giantmidget said:
Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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+1 I met a guy that works for ERICSSON which that company maintains Sprint towers here in Austin Texas.
He told me that LTE is more reliable/cheaper than clear-wire 4g. And not to expect anything till 2013/2014.
And he also told me that clear-wire 4g is not making profit.
If this is true ..I really don't know
Personally I think 4g sucks..unreliable

Why you do not want LTE
The thread is long and through. I think I'ma sig it.

End of Life for WIMax

Does that means there will be no new towers installed in areas like Indianapolis. Guess we will get pushed to the back of the line for the LTE service as well.

riggs170 said:
Does that means there will be no new towers installed in areas like Indianapolis. Guess we will get pushed to the back of the line for the LTE service as well.
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this has been beaten to death already. it is very unlikely any new towers will be added... and certainly not in an area where this is no wimax at all. a few towns might see some new protection sites but thats about it.
wimax will work until at least 2015... so you have 3 full years to get some use out of it when you can.

I could be wrong but I don't think clearwire is done with wimax yet.
Although they do it at a turtles pace they are still expanding last I saw.

lafester said:
I could be wrong but I don't think clearwire is done with wimax yet.
Although they do it at a turtles pace they are still expanding last I saw.
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clear wire is also switching to lte as well. sprint gave them millions of dollar to help them switch over. clearwire is also ditching the efforts of wimaxes..
i just hope sprint is quick about lte rollouts. with lightsquare not being able to produce lte for sprint, they need to be quick with an alternatives

Thanks for the response, really what to use the 4g I get teased with it constantly while traveling and can't seem to find clear answers on news relating to these things

Clearwire will do some maintenance and minor additions here or there (to fulfill license requirements), but there will be no more major expansion. The existing Wimax network will be continued until at least 2015. Beginning in 2013, Clearwire's LTE network will be turned on in key cities to supplement Sprint's LTE network.

autoprime said:
this has been beaten to death already. it is very unlikely any new towers will be added... and certainly not in an area where this is no wimax at all. a few towns might see some new protection sites but thats about it.
wimax will work until at least 2015... so you have 3 full years to get some use out of it when you can.
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I'm just asking here, didn't they say they are not making anymore wiimax phones?
If they aren't making any more phones what incentive do they have to make more wiimax towers?
*My own opinion Damn it*
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moeinyoho said:
I'm just asking here, didn't they say they are not making anymore wiimax phones?
If they aren't making any more phones what incentive do they have to make more wiimax towers?
*My own opinion Damn it*
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correct, no more wimax phones. there is no incentive to add any more towers. if any towers do go up they will be protection sites. altho according to the following site explaining protection sites... they were to be finished by 2011
http://s4gru.spruz.com/forums/?page...3745&fid=CDD46982-E4AC-458A-913A-E5BE9C484E3D
but as i said before.. if you arent in a wimax area now.. you wont be getting it. those who are in a coverage area.. enjoy it until 2015. unlimited 4mbps(on avg) mobile internet is pretty rad.

Correct me if I'm wrong, clearwire is already an established lte provider?
So it wouldn't be long until we have good lte coverage?
Yes, no lol
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moeinyoho said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, clearwire is already an established lte provider?
So it wouldn't be long until we have good lte coverage?
Yes, no lol
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Clearwire does not have enough money to make the capital expenditures (which is why 4G Wimax was halted). Instead, beginning in 2013, Clearwire's LTE network will be turned on in key cities ("hotspots") to supplement Sprint's LTE network.

This news really effing pisses me off. I buy this phone hopeing that in a year or a few months from now that 4g would come to my city. And they just say "Oh well, sorry, we are not going to do that bit anymore"?
Why aren't people more pissed off about this?
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crzchn said:
This news really effing pisses me off. I buy this phone hopeing that in a year or a few months from now that 4g would come to my city. And they just say "Oh well, sorry, we are not going to do that bit anymore"?
Why aren't people more pissed off about this?
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Because Sprint is awesome. Bask in its awesomeness! Bask! Bask, I tell you!
In all seriousness, what is Sprint to do? They are now in the position that they need to change to LTE for its 4G technology. WiMax is dying. For those of us who bought WiMax devices before we had WiMax service (me included), we took a risk. It didn't pay off.
Given the position Sprint currently is in, they are doing the right things. Network Vision and LTE.
- Robert, Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

NMherron said:
Because Sprint is awesome. Bask in its awesomeness! Bask! Bask, I tell you!
In all seriousness, what is Sprint to do? They are now in the position that they need to change to LTE for its 4G technology. WiMax is dying. For those of us who bought WiMax devices before we had WiMax service (me included), we took a risk. It didn't pay off.
Given the position Sprint currently is in, they are doing the right things. Network Vision and LTE.
- Robert, Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
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What is Sprint to do? How about offering early upgrades to an LTE phone without penalties?
And I did not take a risk, I signed a contract. Contacts exist to negate risk. I also asked them if 4g would be available in a specific area and they said yes. Now they say no. This change happened in a matter of months. Sprint took a risk and more they are pushing the cost of that failed risk on to its customers.
All I know is when they get 4g lte in an area I live in I will tell them that my 4g will not connect and have then replace it with an lte phone.
Wimax is not dieing, sprint is killing it. Big difference.
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crzchn said:
What is Sprint to do? How about offering early upgrades to an LTE phone without penalties?
And I did not take a risk, I signed a contract. Contacts exist to negate risk. I also asked them if 4g would be available in a specific area and they said yes. Now they say no. This change happened in a matter of months. Sprint took a risk and more they are pushing the cost of that failed risk on to its customers.
All I know is when they get 4g lte in an area I live in I will tell them that my 4g will not connect and have then replace it with an lte phone.
Wimax is not dieing, sprint is killing it. Big difference.
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I like that idea of lte upgrades with no penalty. However i highly doubt they will go for it cause they need you to fullfill a 2yr contract to cover the cost of the highly marked down hand sets included in a 2yr contract. It would be soo sick though if they executed your idea! Why arnt people mad like you are ( other guys post not you crzchn) is for differeny reaons. I beleive most people if not all have the right to be and most should be. But for some one like me ( lives in hawaii) i bought this device knowing it woulsnt see 4g for years if ever. So i was already under the impression that i wouldnt get it so im not dissapointed. Even though the reps said i would get it i knew better than he did. I look forward to ICS because it wont be restricted to location since the net is everywhere. That is a realistic possibility im happy for. Besides my island is so tiny that there arnt lots of people hogging the towers so i average 1Mb/sec
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Given how iit takes nearly a year for sprint to make money on each consumer as they take a huge hit oon every phone they discount, and how they are hurting for money as is... not happening. We knew that wimax was dying for nearly a year now, no news there. At least Sprint still allows unlimited data, as well as no BS fees like Verizon. Not to mention they are doing major upgrades to our network, specifically 3g.
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What is Sprint to do? How about offering early upgrades to an LTE phone without penalties?
And I did not take a risk, I signed a contract. Contacts exist to negate risk. I also asked them if 4g would be available in a specific area and they said yes. Now they say no. This change happened in a matter of months. Sprint took a risk and more they are pushing the cost of that failed risk on to its customers.
All I know is when they get 4g lte in an area I live in I will tell them that my 4g will not connect and have then replace it with an lte phone.
Wimax is not dieing, sprint is killing it. Big difference.
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crzchn said:
This news really effing pisses me off. I buy this phone hopeing that in a year or a few months from now that 4g would come to my city. And they just say "Oh well, sorry, we are not going to do that bit anymore"?
Why aren't people more pissed off about this?
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Because this is old news and we all knew about it before buying a new device.

lafester said:
Because this is old news and we all knew about it before buying a new device.
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I didnt know that when i bought mine. Im not a supet geek
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You don't have to be a "geek" to know how to read...... Just saying
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Because this is old news and we all knew about it before buying a new device.
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Sorry, that is just bull donkey. I asked them about expanding in Tucson and they said they were. Now they say they are not. Why should I expect any different?
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moeinyoho said:
You don't have to be a "geek" to know how to read...... Just saying
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Read what? This?
http://m.electronista.com/iphone/articles/11/07/13/sprint.and.clearwire.expand.4g.network/
Or this?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...-so-called-4G-networks-to-more-cities_id12976
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[INFO] Sprint LTE Updates _ Interesting article regarding the future of Sprint Vision

In no way related to Epic 4G Touch but I found it very interesting ... comment as you see fit.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...sprint-cdma1x-800-channels-and-sids-revealed/
EDIT: Additional info regarding Sprint's progress on Network Vision LTE upgrades: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
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EDIT# 2: Reading your comments, I realized many of you are not aware that LTE is NOT AVAILABLE for our phones !!! ... Now you want to ask me why did I bother to post this article since our phones are not supported ... Because since they started the Network Vision upgrades, the 3G speeds have vastly improved !!! I remember 3G download speeds between 200 to 400 Kbps and now I constantly get between 800 Mbps to 2.2 Mbps.

Thanks great article! Think i'm gonna grab some gas from Hammond, IN tomorrow & run a few speed test while there! Now for this Galaxy S III LTE! I didn't kno Samsung was doing the roll out, I thought it was "clear" or some other co. does this make gs3touch guaranteed LTE?

samsmalls said:
Thanks great article! Think i'm gonna grab some gas from Hammond, IN tomorrow & run a few speed test while there! Now for this Galaxy S III LTE! I didn't kno Samsung was doing the roll out, I thought it was "clear" or some other co. does this make gs3touch guaranteed LTE?
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Well, it's a different division of Samsung that does it. It also includes Ericson. So....don't extrapolate too much on that, other than Sprint and Samsung have a fantastic relationship.
The other thing is, our phone is designed to only utilize a certain protocol on the 800mhz band....now this article was a little over my head, but it falls in line with what we've been trained on in regards to NV: we're deploying all of our protocols across all of our spectrum, but this will require newer devices designed to do so
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Just read that Orange County California is in the second wave of updates! Woohoo!
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squshy 7 said:
Well, it's a different division of Samsung that does it. It also includes Ericson. So....don't extrapolate too much on that, other than Sprint and Samsung have a fantastic relationship.
The other thing is, our phone is designed to only utilize a certain protocol on the 800mhz band....now this article was a little over my head, but it falls in line with what we've been trained on in regards to NV: we're deploying all of our protocols across all of our spectrum, but this will require newer devices designed to do so
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As far as needing new devices to run on different radio bands, this is not necessarily the case... Now granted there will have to be some sort of radio update for the older devices, but, that can easily be pushed out ota, other wise how would you think aosp roms would work? So a radio update, and Walla, now the device can receive on set spectrum...
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bondosho said:
Just read that Orange County California is in the second wave of updates! Woohoo!
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Just read that Orange County California is in the second wave of updates! Woohoo!
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Yeah man...I didn't think both L.A. and Orange County would be in so early but I guess I shouldn't be that surprised. I got the first Epic on launch day, turned on 4g and never turned it off.
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still no pittsburgh even though we were one of the first wimax cities... its not even on the list yet.

JohnCorleone said:
Yeah man...I didn't think both L.A. and Orange County would be in so early but I guess I shouldn't be that surprised. I got the first Epic on launch day, turned on 4g and never turned it off.
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Yeah? Come down and visit me in San Diego and we'll how that 4G works for ya.
I was happy to see San Diego on the 2nd round list though. Hopefully it goes better than the WiMax deployment. That was nothing but let downs for over 2 years.

Dchibro said:
Yeah? Come down and visit me in San Diego and we'll how that 4G works for ya.
I was happy to see San Diego on the 2nd round list though. Hopefully it goes better than the WiMax deployment. That was nothing but let downs for over 2 years.
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Yeah, I couldn't believe San Diego got left out of the WiMax expansion. There are some major high dollar areas down there too
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Come on over to the valley of Phoenix 5 th largest in the nation and no 4g for sprint but it was the test city for lte so maybe it's already lit up
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JohnCorleone said:
Yeah, I couldn't believe San Diego got left out of the WiMax expansion. There are some major high dollar areas down there too
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We have Wimax down here in SD, as long as you are on the SDSU campus, or on a boat in the bay.
I was pretty excited to see SD on the list too, then realized that I'll be in Vegas by then. Well, at least I'll have Wimax to hold me over out there.

Wow what a surprise Norfolk Va area is in 2nd round lte deployment
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-sprint-network-visionlte-deployment-in-2012/
I guess Verizon lte blanketing my area last year gave them a kick start

blackroseMD1 said:
We have Wimax down here in SD, as long as you are on the SDSU campus, or on a boat in the bay.
I was pretty excited to see SD on the list too, then realized that I'll be in Vegas by then. Well, at least I'll have Wimax to hold me over out there.
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I'm in San Diego too and I actually noticed the 4G at SDSU while I was touring there, haha. There's also a small area near my neighborhood with 4G coverage, but it's pretty useless since I have wifi when I'm here. It might be because there's a sprint store really close by, but who knows. I hope it gets rolled out in SD soon though.
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fiddy619 said:
As far as needing new devices to run on different radio bands, this is not necessarily the case... Now granted there will have to be some sort of radio update for the older devices, but, that can easily be pushed out ota, other wise how would you think aosp roms would work? So a radio update, and Walla, now the device can receive on set spectrum...
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It's not that simple, of course our phone picks up 800, 1.9, and 2.5, but the hardware has to be present to be able to decode the different protocols on those bands. Hence, our phone is not LTE capable because it doesn't have an LTE radio, yet LTE will be on the 1.9 and our device uses the 1.9 pretty heavily.
And, I literally just went over the training that talks about Sprint deploying multiple protocols on the same bands yesterday...it was stated pretty explicitly that future devices will be the ones to take advantage of that tech. Its OK, that's pretty far down the road.
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squshy 7 said:
It's not that simple, of course our phone picks up 800, 1.9, and 2.5, but the hardware has to be present to be able to decode the different protocols on those bands. Hence, our phone is not LTE capable because it doesn't have an LTE radio, yet LTE will be on the 1.9 and our device uses the 1.9 pretty heavily.
And, I literally just went over the training that talks about Sprint deploying multiple protocols on the same bands yesterday...it was stated pretty explicitly that future devices will be the ones to take advantage of that tech. Its OK, that's pretty far down the road.
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From what I've been reading, our phones are the last ones that Sprint will ever make compatible to WiMax ... from now on, all the new phones that Sprint will introduce (with 4G suport) will use the LTE radio.

What a surprise (not), I'm one of the first LTE markets.
Grand total of 4G in our area? 3 LTE signals, 2 HSPA+ signals, and the Wimax signal.

drksilenc said:
still no pittsburgh even though we were one of the first wimax cities... its not even on the list yet.
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Sprint is following its own independent 4G LTE deployment.
Clearwire's 4G LTE deployment (starting June 2013) will first be overlaid its existing Wimax sites.

Jayavarman said:
Sprint is following its own independent 4G LTE deployment.
Clearwire's 4G LTE deployment (starting June 2013) will first be overlaid its existing Wimax sites.
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Will sprint and clearwire still be working together so that their coverage areas will work for sprint users?
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Thanks for sharing! Now that I see Sprint can't prioritize because of lack of funding or just poor management (Palmdale and Lancaster before Orange County, don't make me laugh Sprint) I'll be heading over to Verizon to use their LTE network that is working NOW.
I'm rich so I'll the pay the extra, it's worth it to not have to settle for 3rd best anymore. It's really getting old.
After 5 years with Sprint they still can't into 2nd gear.

[Q] Sprint's upgrade to LTE

So would Sprint's upgrade to LTE render Epic 4G touch useless for 4G?

Yes... But that point is so far in the future, you'll have a newer phone by then....

Compusmurf said:
Yes... But that point is so far in the future, you'll have a newer phone by then....
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Nope, it doesn't.
Sprint has a deal and contract to have WiMAX (which is the 4G flavor the Epic Touch is running), till sometime in 2015 I believe.

I believe WiMax will be alive for at least a couple of years because full roll out of LTE is going to take time. Someone can correct me if I am wrong here but I think WiMax will certainly be here for the 2 years if you bought the phone on contract
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There are numerous threads about this already please use the search engine... And Google works great also
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DevalB said:
Nope, it doesn't.
Sprint has a deal and contract to have WiMAX (which is the 4G flavor the Epic Touch is running), till sometime in 2015 I believe.
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Phew I was like now i'm like

It renders 4G for me useless for the most part. As I live in a city with no WiMax And the odds of ever getting it are about zero now. Oh well... I just hope we get some LTE love before the next great thing is out. But I'm sure I'll be loving my E4GT for least a year or 2 still.

DevalB said:
Nope, it doesn't.
Sprint has a deal and contract to have WiMAX (which is the 4G flavor the Epic Touch is running), till sometime in 2015 I believe.
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Hence, so far in the future that the LTE network is fully rolled out and the Wimax network shut off which will be more than likely, quite past 2015, yes, at that point, the epic 4G touch will be USELESS on the Wimax network. It can't be upgraded to LTE and at that point, it'll be well past it's useful life as a "high end device" anyway, so, won't matter much.
To the OP, by the time you need to worry, you won't have this phone anyway.

DevalB said:
Nope, it doesn't.
Sprint has a deal and contract to have WiMAX (which is the 4G flavor the Epic Touch is running), till sometime in 2015 I believe.
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+ 1 I was going to say that
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Does anyone know why Sprint went with Wimax to begin with? Was it so they could get it up faster and claim to be the first 4g carrier? Or was it sort of like when HD DVD and Blurays came out... weren't sure which was going to be better?

shaunymac424 said:
Does anyone know why Sprint went with Wimax to begin with? Was it so they could get it up faster and claim to be the first 4g carrier? Or was it sort of like when HD DVD and Blurays came out... weren't sure which was going to be better?
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Yes, they wanted to be the first 4G network and Wimax was the easiest to deploy quickly.
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When sprint chose wimax it was definitely the front runner. It had pretty good financial backing from Google and intel. The problem is that it was never designed to be a mobile technology, it was merely adapted for that purpose. There was a revision (802.16m) that would have given it some legs to compete with lte from a power consumption and mobility standpoint but because Sprint is the only carrier that picked it up, all of the hardware makers stopped investing in mobile aspects of the technology. Effectively that makes it impossible to continue, without the radios being refined wimax would continue to be at a disadvantage to lte in the phone arena.
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Sprint also needed to start doing something with its 2.5 GHz spectrum. Those licenses had coverage conditions that the FCC could invoke to take the spectrum from Sprint to sell or give to another entity that would use it. At the time, LTE was not a ready for commercial deployment, but WiMax was.

Sprint LTE coverage map

Not related to our device but still useful For those interested in future LTE coverage support with devices to come like the GS3... sprint added LTE to their coverage map
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
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I gave my mom my epic touch and got me a gnex because I live in one of the rollout cities. I've been waiting, getting pissed. This is some what a good sign, except still not turned on.
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But its June
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Sprint said Mid 2012, and we are almost in July. Hell, its almost the 3rd quarter of the year! They need to start letting us know whats going on, SOON!

dw3bb10 said:
Sprint said Mid 2012, and we are almost in July. Hell, its almost the 3rd quarter of the year! They need to start letting us know whats going on, SOON!
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Listen, Sprint needs to make sure that when the switch is flipped, it goes as smoothly as possible. I can't fault our engineers for wanting to test and test and test, and then test some more. The delays are definitely not due to a lack of towers going up, S4GRU has plenty of evidence of that.
I for one would much rather the anticipation pay off with a good roll out rather than a rushed half-assed one.
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I also have a GNex and I am patiently waiting for a quality service rather than a rushed botched job.

check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572686

That map is for voice coverage.
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squshy 7 said:
Listen, Sprint needs to make sure that when the switch is flipped, it goes as smoothly as possible. I can't fault our engineers for wanting to test and test and test, and then test some more. The delays are definitely not due to a lack of towers going up, S4GRU has plenty of evidence of that.
I for one would much rather the anticipation pay off with a good roll out rather than a rushed half-assed one.
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Just like the did with Wimax? Not so sure about your theory...
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akarol said:
Just like the did with Wimax? Not so sure about your theory...
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I knew wimax was going to fail from the beginning. The high frequency range is total utter shat for large blanketing coverage. LTE should be a little better atleast, and then the 800Mhz network that is rolling out should be amazing. A nice large blanket for most areas.

akarol said:
Just like the did with Wimax? Not so sure about your theory...
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Wimax was built by Clearwire, not Sprint.

I'm looking forward to hopefully improved building signal penetration with 800 band. It still might suck in elevators and buildings with lots of steel infrastructure.

I just hope its a consistent signal and we get to enjoy a call without the auto tune filter from the bad reception.

Does lte require turning on like Wimax or is it constantly on like hspa+?
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Does lte require turning on like Wimax or is it constantly on like hspa+?
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On the galaxy S3 it seems to always be on
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Its just like Verizon, you have a cdma/lte radio option or just a cdma option. So if you have it on cdma/lte, if there is lte in your area it will automatically connect.
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Beejis said:
Its just like Verizon, you have a cdma/lte radio option or just a cdma option. So if you have it on cdma/lte, if there is lte in your area it will automatically connect.
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Yea, but, different antenna. So it isn't like hspa+, will take longer to acquire signal and result in whatever you're doing timing out when switching modes.
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