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Hey guys,
You all are true genius', so I will ask you all for your help/opinion.
I don't have insurance on my Incredible, because I bought it second hand, and replaced my Eris with it. Verizon won't insure the phone because it wasn't brought through them. However, If i can prove that the phone is defective on it's own accord, ie via software, maybe they will swap it.
**Mod Edit - Warranty Fraud Comments Removed** That way when I show it to them, they would have to default swap it. They would probably try and do a factory reset, but that would keep the same rooted rom, right? Not sure how that works.
Maybe i'm just being silly, and can just pay for what ever the repair is...
That is something called fraud. I don't think you're going to get much help with that
That's rather dishonest, wouldn't you say?
Sorry, I was really upset when I woke up and posted that..anyway I can have this thread deleted please? Rather embarassing, sorry, I'm just really upset i've never had a smartphone break on me
So.... what's wrong with it?
Phone works fine, screen just shattered. I was showing it off to a bunch of Apple people and demonstrating why it ran circles around the iPhone. Set it down on my lap, and then some drunk kid knocked into my chair and it faceplanted onto the floor.
So..cracked screen :-/
1) warranty only covers phones without physical damage
2) drunk kid owes you a phone
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W4LLY said:
Phone works fine, screen just shattered. I was showing it off to a bunch of Apple people and demonstrating why it ran circles around the iPhone. Set it down on my lap, and then some drunk kid knocked into my chair and it faceplanted onto the floor.
So..cracked screen :-/
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That kid would either have a bloody nose or would of payed for my phone in my case
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lol. Yah Verizon could care less if the phone is defective if it has a giant cracked screen. Obviously they would think that the damage to the phone affect the internals of it or something along those lines.
Not sure how you'll get a kid, who involuntarily bumped into you (at a party I'm assuming if the guy was drunk) to pay for your phone, but good luck tracking him down now. Also, probably not a great idea to have your phone sitting on your lap at a place with hard flooring while people are drunk. Put the phone in your pocket or keep it held in your hand.
I lol'd that you broke your phone trying to show up some iPhone users.
1) warranty only covers phones without physical damage
2) drunk kid owes you a phone
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Not true. If you pay for insurance thru Verizon it absolutely covers physical damage, lost, etc. Manufactured warranty would only cover if the damage was because of some defect.
Cory
"Results may vary."
yeah, it's hopeless man, you're life is officially over...
1. Google.com
2. HTC incredible digitizer
3. spend $
4. fix phone
Ive heard of replacement screens being sold on the internet.. not sure where and who would fix it for you..but its an option
It's 120 dollars for HTC's repair contractor to replace the screen. It's not the worst thing in the world.
PS get a case
FYI.
1. Rooting your device voids ANY warranty.
2. Physical damage is not covered under manufacturer warranty. Any software defects are then attributed to the physical damage.
3. Drunk people+smartphone=bad news. Put it away.
4. The device did not break on you. You broke it.
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csseale said:
Not true. If you pay for insurance thru Verizon it absolutely covers physical damage, lost, etc. Manufactured warranty would only cover if the damage was because of some defect.
Cory
"Results may vary."
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Insurance and warranty are not synonymous... so yes, he is absolutely correct. and your "not true" is moot.
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FYI.
1. Rooting your device voids ANY warranty.
2. Physical damage is not covered under manufacturer warranty. Any software defects are then attributed to the physical damage.
3. Drunk people+smartphone=bad news. Put it away.
4. The device did not break on you. You broke it.
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You forgot one.
5. You are a dumbass.
1.) I wasn't trying to, I -did- show up my friends iPhone 4. 3g speed test using opera...not even close.
2.) I had the Verizon case, but it obviously didn't offer the best frontal support.
3.) Violence doesn't solve anything, and it was a random person I don't even know. He didnt purposely knock into me..he was just a drunk idiot. My grip could have been better/been paying attention to it more.
4.) Thank you all for the various replies/solutions.
If HTC replaces the screen for 120$, I'm really ok with that. Apple charges 199$ for an iPhone 4 screen.
I understand how warrantee's work, I fix iPhones all day. I know that accidental/physical damage is not covered under a typical warranty, but Verizon's Insurance policy (7$ a month, with an 80$ deductable) is normally great because it will replace your phone NO MATTER WHAT, that involves falling off a cliff, cracked screen, ect.
The problem is that since i got my Incredible second hand, and not though VZ, they wouldn't transfer my insurance to the new phone. So, I can go back to using my Eris..but I really am in love with my Incredible.
5.) I know rooting voids warranty. If it was a stock root, though, the VZ rep probably wouldn't get it, was my original point. Regardless, if you do a factory reset, or unroot your device, your warranty is no longer voided, no?
I would start checking out the kiosks at your local mall. Our rinky-dink mall has 2 stores that will replaced cracked screens for about $80 - $100.....while you wait...
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Insurance and warranty are not synonymous... so yes, he is absolutely correct. and your "not true" is moot.
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Ok
Cory
"Results may vary."
So my screen needs fixed because of several hot spots on the screen that are spreading. I went to best buy and they said they will ship it out for replacement with no problem. I then went to a sprint store/repair center. I showed the Guy the huge white spots in my screen and told them that they were spreading and asked if they would fix it, and showed him minor screen lifting. He told me the marks were from leds under the screen and they would not fix it lol... not sure what I should do. Seems as if you're better off just busting your phone to get it fixed.. guess ill have bestbuy repair it. Granted sprint a company I have 2 lines with and have been with for 7 years gives me a run around and lies to me. Ill try another store and if they give me the same song and dance ill go above there heads. Last time I had a problem I emailed corporate and got the problem fixed.
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So my screen needs fixed because of several hot spots on the screen that are spreading. I went to best buy and they said they will ship it out for replacement with no problem. I then went to a sprint store/repair center. I showed the Guy the huge white spots in my screen and told them that they were spreading and asked if they would fix it, and showed him minor screen lifting. He told me the marks were from leds under the screen and they would not fix it lol... not sure what I should do. Seems as if you're better off just busting your phone to get it fixed.. guess ill have bestbuy repair it. Granted sprint a company I have 2 lines with and have been with for 7 years gives me a run around and lies to me. Ill try another store and if they give me the same song and dance ill go above there heads. Last time I had a problem I emailed corporate and got the problem fixed.
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Are you trying to get the screen replaced? If so I am 110% sure they replace screens for free at all Sprint stores. Which started around November ... screen includes lcd as for as I know.
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Yup, screen. And that's what the Rep told me.
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Yup, screen. And that's what the Rep told me.
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Well if its a corporate store, they should replace it for free...
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Going to another one tomorrow , see if ill get another "its leds behind the screen" story lol.
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FYI I have the same problem, screen separation at the bottom and one area that looks like dead pixels to me. I'm procrastinating unrooting to take it in, but I did call the sprint store and the rep there told me that there are 2 different screens and right now they can only replace one...so maybe that's the issue.
You don't even have to unroot. Sprint really doesn't care. I took my rooted Evo in to get screen replacement on Halloween. I had flashed back a stock theme over my rom (virus always provides a back to stock theme to flash for his roms). But that can't hide my custom black splashsxreen.
They replaced it. I went back on Christmas eve (same store, same techs), and needed my camera lens replaced, and screen replaced (they Fd it up when they replaced it last time - dead spot). After leaving, I realized all the smashes around my bezel were gone too. They replaced damn near all my hardware,.....and kept my rooted guts.
I was told, if its a hardware issue, and you at least try to make it look stock, they don't really care. They know people root. Anyhow, I was impressed. Good luck, and don't stress the root.
Make sure it's a corp store, the franchises are terrible. Use the locator on their site.
That's obviously a manufacturer's defect, they should fix it whether or not you have an insurance or repair plan.
That's what I keep hearing, but I dunno if I have the balls to take a rooted phone into the sprint store. Kinda like driving 5 mph over the speed limit right next to a cop, he probably won't pull you over...but might.
Well I had sprint insurance but best buys seems better to me because if they cannot repair it they give you a brand new phone out of the box & they cover water damage. I was considering getting insurance for a month just to get it fixed. I should have taken my phone right over to the repair desk instead of a sales Rep.
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Well I had sprint insurance but best buys seems better to me because if they cannot repair it they give you a brand new phone out of the box & they cover water damage. I was considering getting insurance for a month just to get it fixed. I should have taken my phone right over to the repair desk instead of a sales Rep.
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Best Buy only replaces it after 3 attempts to repair it are unsuccessful. Each time they try to repair it you will be without your phone for 2-8 weeks. They will rent you a loaner but it won't be an Evo. My TEP comvers water damage, but only through Asurion which means you have to pay the deductible. Stay away from Best Buy insurance, only terrible experiences there.
Yeah, if they offer water damage illvgo back to TEP. I just hate refurbished phones :[
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Just had to deal with sprint repair this past weekend. I had the white spots on my screen. They tried to give me a "harvested screen from a returned phone". Well, the spots were worse on that screen and the plastic was cracked, so they gave me my screen back saying they get what's sent to them and can't order brand new screens.
On top of all that, the manager was a complete **** stating that the spots are from me touching the screen and it happens to all touchscreen phones.
Oh, I was also told by the tech, that even with a new screen, the spots WILL come back and there's really nothing they can do about it but keep replacing the screen (if I can find someone nice enough to do it).
After reading this post it has driven to go ahead with this. Just gonna claim lost phone, rcv phone from asurion play dumb oh found old phone and now I have a spare for when I have to send orig. Device to HTC to repair. Won't have to deal with Sprint...I used to work for cust care....sorry If I helped any of you lol.
P.s. screen repair without TEP is only 35.00 at any repair center. Any store or rep that provided sub par svc, req a IRT on them. It is a formal complaint filed by a manager to the operations manager....you're gonna be rolling some big **** down a steep hill
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After reading this post it has driven to go ahead with this. Just gonna claim lost phone, rcv phone from asurion play dumb oh found old phone and now I have a spare for when I have to send orig. Device to HTC to repair. Won't have to deal with Sprint...I used to work for cust care....sorry If I helped any of you lol.
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This cant be true once you say they phone is lost/stolen the esn number is put on the block list and can never be activated again. Even if you tell them you found the phone they will request you turn in the phone or pay full market value for it.
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P.s. screen repair without TEP is only 35.00 at any repair center. Any store or rep that provided sub par svc, req a IRT on them. It is a formal complaint filed by a manager to the operations manager....you're gonna be rolling some big **** down a steep hill
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The manager was a complete douchebag and wouldn't listen to me and kept interrupting what I was trying to say. I left after I asked for the district manager's # and was denied.
Any way to file a complaint online?
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The manager was a complete douchebag and wouldn't listen to me and kept interrupting what I was trying to say. I left after I asked for the district manager's # and was denied.
Any way to file a complaint online?
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If you are trying to get your screen replace just call a corporate store and ask to speak tech. Tell them your screen is cracked and need to be replaced. Ask do they have any in stock at the moment. It takes aound 15 min to complete. They recieve 40 new screens every week and if they dont have any ask to be put on the waiting list.
The spots are created by oil on our hands that settle on the screen and heated by phone usage, but this is a hardware defect because our screens should not absorb the oils.
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If you are trying to get your screen replace just call a corporate store and ask to speak tech. Tell them your screen is cracked and need to be replaced. Ask do they have any in stock at the moment. It takes aound 15 min to complete. They recieve 40 new screens every week and if they dont have any ask to be put on the waiting list.
The spots are created by oil on our hands that settle on the screen and heated by phone usage, but this is a hardware defect because our screens should not absorb the oils.
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I've had a screen protector (clarivue anti-glare) on since the screen was replaced the first time. I literally got the phone back with the new screen, left the plastic on till I got home and then installed the screen protector.
Doesn't sound like it's the oils from our hands.
So yeah, i dropped my Evo and I have a cluster of dead pixels now. Really noticeable on a white background. My question is, does sprint repair the screen or do I have to pay a deductible for a new phone? I had my phone less than a year, but i just got a free replacement phone about a month ago because of a faulty charger port (not my fault).
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So yeah, i dropped my Evo and I have a cluster of dead pixels now. Really noticeable on a white background. My question is, does sprint repair the screen or do I have to pay a deductible for a new phone? I had my phone less than a year, but i just got a free replacement phone about a month ago because of a faulty charger port (not my fault).
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How many dead pixs? If you have insurance you should be good just tell them your pixles started dying don't tell them you dropped it. If you say you dropped it they will tell you it is cosmetic issue and won't wanna fix it unless you ***** lol then they will You should be good to go get it fixed man,
its alot. about the size of a dime or so; scattered here and there. You think they'll go for that excuse? I have insurance btw
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its alot. about the size of a dime or so; scattered here and there. You think they'll go for that excuse? I have insurance btw
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Ya man your good I would unroot tho if you are lol or take a chance the store out here doesn't care if your rooted lol. You will be fine they might just swap out your phone
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its alot. about the size of a dime or so; scattered here and there. You think they'll go for that excuse? I have insurance btw
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If there isn't any significant damage to the frame of the phone I don't see how they could tell you no. The phone is under warranty for a year and dead pixels should be covered under that.
Yup just take it in lol you have nothing to worry about man.
Kool beanz. Ill unroot and go there tomorrow and see what they tell me.
Copypasta from the Photon forum:
If juggs knows how to flash a pre-rooted on an unlocked phone he hasn't shared it and would much rather post that the workaround is bull****. I'm not really in the mood for this crap. I put up with a lot of BS when working on HDMwIn and FullHDMI. I have deleted the guide, Evo Desktop, Sprint S&R policy threads and other contribs. Don't expect any other projects from me to be posted on xda.
7. If you bring you rooted phone in for service because you screwed up I will try to fix it but reserve the right to laugh at you, unroot your phone and flash it to the latest software and laugh at you some more.
I lol'd.
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7. If you bring you rooted phone in for service because you screwed up I will try to fix it but reserve the right to laugh at you, unroot your phone and flash it to the latest software and laugh at you some more.
I lol'd.
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lmao!!! BUT JUST remember. not every tech will know everything about rooting. We try. but sometimes, we just don't have time in our lives.
but still. LOL!!!!! ON THE screwing it up part.... the customer should be billed for a trouble ticket. It isn't sprints responsibility to fix the customers mistakes.
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not every tech will know everything about rooting. We try. but sometimes, we just don't have time in our lives.
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Agreed. Considering the level of experience I have with deving and testing it's even more frustrating as an ISC tech. ISC techs are generally ignored and denied Sprint forum access simply because they don't work at a corporate location.
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the customer should be billed for a trouble ticket. It isn't sprints responsibility to fix the customers mistakes.
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I agree with this point as well however it can be very difficult and time consuming to dig through the phone to see if it's a corrupt ROM, incompatible app and so on or just user error.
what about if you have a hardware problem (usb port) and you've already taken the phone apart?
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what about if you have a hardware problem (usb port) and you've already taken the phone apart?
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If the tamper sticker is missing that puts the burden of proof of "customer tampering" on the service department. Expect the phone to be thoroughly inspected for signs of tampering. If no evidence can be found then it's treated as any other device.
My two questions to you are: Why was the phone disassembled and are the solder points (aka pads) on the board intact? The first one is because I'm curious but the second determines if the device damage is classified as defect (pads intact) or abuse (pads missing or pulled up from the board).
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If the tamper sticker is missing that puts the burden of proof of "customer tampering" on the service department. Expect the phone to be thoroughly inspected for signs of tampering. If no evidence can be found then it's treated as any other device.
My two questions to you are: Why was the phone disassembled and are the solder points (aka pads) on the board intact? The first one is because I'm curious but the second determines if the device damage is classified as defect (pads intact) or abuse (pads missing or pulled up from the board).
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the phone was taken apart to sand the black paint off the rim to make the phone red. clearly tampered with
i didn't think to check the usb port while i was inside the phone but i know it's my fault. i used a cheap off-brand car charger one time and ever since then it's been loose.
my question mostly leads to, is it worth it keep my TEP for $7/month when my phone won't be able to be repaired because the tamper sticker is gone and it shows very awesome and visible signs or customer tampering.
once you like do something like that, WHY ON EARTH would you pay 7 bucks a month? LMAO! OMG. lol. However, YOU CAN just say you lost the phone. haha. But if it is a cool tech, maybe he'll cut you some slack if you tell him you'll pay up whatever is needed to fix the issue.
Thanks for the info guys
Sooo, I have a question for you. I've been trying to deal with this for over a week now. The battery life on my Evo has been horrid as of late. I've had the phone for a little under a year now. I'm not exaclty a n00b. I know how to flash ROMs, kernels, ect. Battery life was never really a problem (not the best, but I knew what to expect). I could get around 22-26 hours with moderate use on a normal day. All of a sudden (since flashing a sense 3.0 ROM) my battery life was took a complete dump. I'm lucky to get around 6 hours of use now. The battery drains almost 15% in about 5 minutes after being unplugged from the charger and exponentially after that.
I already unrooted the phone, rooted it again, flashed a new ROM, and nothing seems to help. I took the phone to Sprint and they said the phone and battery checked out perfectly fine. Well, I'm not buying it as obviously something here is not right. If it's not the battery then it's the phone and they should be able to give me a replacement as I'm stil under the 1 year manufacturer warrenty that they do indeed cover correct?
Well, I dropped off the phone today for over 2 hours only to have it returned, not replaced, and told they "updated" it. I'm still having the same exact issue so what do I need to do/tell these people to have the phone replaced!?
Thanks!
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Sooo, I have a question for you. I've been trying to deal with this for over a week now. The battery life on my Evo has been horrid as of late. I've had the phone for a little under a year now. I'm not exaclty a n00b. I know how to flash ROMs, kernels, ect. Battery life was never really a problem (not the best, but I knew what to expect). I could get around 22-26 hours with moderate use on a normal day. All of a sudden (since flashing a sense 3.0 ROM) my battery life was took a complete dump. I'm lucky to get around 6 hours of use now. The battery drains almost 15% in about 5 minutes after being unplugged from the charger and exponentially after that.
I already unrooted the phone, rooted it again, flashed a new ROM, and nothing seems to help. I took the phone to Sprint and they said the phone and battery checked out perfectly fine. Well, I'm not buying it as obviously something here is not right. If it's not the battery then it's the phone and they should be able to give me a replacement as I'm stil under the 1 year manufacturer warrenty that they do indeed cover correct?
Well, I dropped off the phone today for over 2 hours only to have it returned, not replaced, and told they "updated" it. I'm still having the same exact issue so what do I need to do/tell these people to have the phone replaced!?
Thanks!
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To clear some things up. A proper battery test takes 6-8 hours, any store tell you otherwise they're full of it. It's also generally agreed that any ROM/Kernel change needs atleast 2 days of use before you can trust battery life results. In addition, a battery calibration should be the first thing done with a ROM/Kernel change.
I personally feel that if a user flashes a custom ROM/Kernel and it has an adverse and unresolvable effect on the phone that it should not be covered however Sprint rooted phone policy says otherwise. You also have to consider that any replacement will end up being a refurb and I'm not sure how things are where you are but I wouldn't take a refub in my regoin unless I had no choice.
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7. If you bring you rooted phone in for service because you screwed up I will try to fix it but reserve the right to laugh at you, unroot your phone and flash it to the latest software and laugh at you some more.
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Probably the best rule in the list!!
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2. You are not eligible for replacement/repair because you device is scratched, dirty, or the paint is wearing off
4. TEP, ESRP covers, at no charge: defective/cracked screens with no more than 2 cracks that are less than 1 inch long, mechanical or electrical failure, broken hinge/lens/port (provided the mainboard still functions and in the case of ports, the solder pads are not missing from the board). If you don't have TEP or ESRP or it's $35.
5. TEP/ERP covers device replacement with the payment of a $50 or $100 deductible in the following cases: screen has more than two cracks, screen has cracks more than 1 inch long, liquid damage, housing has more than two cracks, flip assembly or keyboard is separated or missing, total device failure, circuit board damage (like the microusb connector's solder pads missing from the board), smashed, lost/stolen. If you don't have TEP or ERP, you have to buy a new phone.
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in reference to # 2,4 and 5. I dropped my phone (EVO 4G) and got it replaced with TEP and paying the $120 deductible about 3 weeks ago. The phone now has a 3/4 of an inch long curved scratch on the screen. (i thought it had gorilla glass) so would this be covered as per # 4 or is it once again a deductible for the phone as outlined in # 5 above.
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in reference to # 2,4 and 5. I dropped my phone (EVO 4G) and got it replaced with TEP and paying the $120 deductible about 3 weeks ago. The phone now has a 3/4 of an inch long curved scratch on the screen. (i thought it had gorilla glass) so would this be covered as per # 4 or is it once again a deductible for the phone as outlined in # 5 above.
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The screen, as I was told, has a higher silica content than Gorilla Glass so it is more prone to cracks and scratches. The bad part is that scratches, even on the screen, fall under #2.
Thanks for posting this man!
I was thinking about taking my EVO (rooted) in for service, having a hard time charging it.. Only thing that's been holding me back: I do not want my phone returned un-rooted..
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One question... Why didn't Sprint even wanna touch my phone anymore when they saw it was rooted?
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One question... Why didn't Sprint even wanna touch my phone anymore when they saw it was rooted?
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Item #1 on the list. SPRINT SERVICES ROOTED PHONES. Company Policy. ANY store tell you otherwise they are WRONG. Tell them to check the Device Solutions Portal.
Updated first post regarding Nexus/Shift replacements for defective Evo's
this is very interesting. I am a care rep, and we always get 90000 different stories about the stores. The real bad ones are the indirect stores... i have heard some horror stories from customers about them that i can hardly even believe... But thank you for clearing some of this up. AND!!! i hope you guys call NSS instead of having the customer calling us when they come into your store with issues.
Lokifish Marz please help!
My EVO is having screen separation issues. It started as light leakage and has gotten worse. When you press the capacitive buttons you can feel the glass move and squeak. I currently do not have tep and was wondering what my options are. The phone is 8 months old. I know there is a signup window for tep for any phone starting August 1st. So if geting my phone repaired or replaced will require tep that would be nice to know. Also since this is a known issue would this qualify them being able to trade up a Nexus s or shift? Thanks for your help!
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I bought a Note 2 off eBay. It was in perfect condition, it had no problems. Lately my phone has been getting really really hot. One day I had it charging overnight, that night the weather dropped and when I picked it up the next day I noticed a line across the top of the screen. I didn't understand how this could of happened since I never drop my phone and I usually keep it in the case and holder combo. I could only assume the overheating caused it.
I contacted Samsung Support and told the rep what happened. He said that it was probably the battery that caused it and said an overheating issue would allow it to be repaired under warranty. I sent it in and never received any status alerts (like I was told I would) about the phone. I checked today and it said it's been on hold because "Customer didn't acceept the payment". I was furious. Payment for what??? "PHONE IS OOW BY CONDITION, THE LCD IS DAMAGED, NEEDS PAYMENT."
I called to see what's going on and the agent kept giving me the same scripted response of "the phone was damaged, any damage voids the warranty". I told him the issue and he kept telling me "I can't speculate on the condition of your phone sir. It is not in front of me. Your warranty is voided. It will cost $191.60 to repair your phone". I told him I wanted to speak with his supervisor. He said "He will say the same thing sir. Your warranty is voided. It will cost $191.60 to repair your phone". I said "Ok, I still want to speak with your supervisor". He said Ok, then put me on hold for 15 mins. Then the line went dead.
Is there anything else I can do, or am I SOL?
when you buy cheap used phones on Ebay, you never know what is really going on with them; obviously, yours had issues that didnt show up right away..
I dont think Samsungs warranty extends to subsequent users after the original owner...
Dont expect perfection when you buy used phones on ebay..
Hopefully this will help you in the future.
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I bought a Note 2 off eBay. It was in perfect condition, it had no problems. Lately my phone has been getting really really hot. One day I had it charging overnight, that night the weather dropped and when I picked it up the next day I noticed a line across the top of the screen. I didn't understand how this could of happened since I never drop my phone and I usually keep it in the case and holder combo. I could only assume the overheating caused it.
I contacted Samsung Support and told the rep what happened. He said that it was probably the battery that caused it and said an overheating issue would allow it to be repaired under warranty. I sent it in and never received any status alerts (like I was told I would) about the phone. I checked today and it said it's been on hold because "Customer didn't acceept the payment". I was furious. Payment for what??? "PHONE IS OOW BY CONDITION, THE LCD IS DAMAGED, NEEDS PAYMENT."
I called to see what's going on and the agent kept giving me the same scripted response of "the phone was damaged, any damage voids the warranty". I told him the issue and he kept telling me "I can't speculate on the condition of your phone sir. It is not in front of me. Your warranty is voided. It will cost $191.60 to repair your phone". I told him I wanted to speak with his supervisor. He said "He will say the same thing sir. Your warranty is voided. It will cost $191.60 to repair your phone". I said "Ok, I still want to speak with your supervisor". He said Ok, then put me on hold for 15 mins. Then the line went dead.
Is there anything else I can do, or am I SOL?
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You may be SOL this time. Next time you ship anything to anyone for repair, take extensive photographs of the items before shipment. I had a rep from Seagate try to tell me that a drive I pulled from a server for RMA replacement was void because "all of the screws" were missing. This was of course complete BS, and when I sent them the photos of the drive before I shipped it and when they sent it back unrepaired, they changed their tune. They sent me a prepaid box to ship the drive back to them and replaced it without further question.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone dropped your phone or damaged it in shipping and now they are passing the costs onto you. Ask for photos of the alleged "LCD damage".
Good luck,
Mike
mcapozzi said:
You may be SOL this time. Next time you ship anything to anyone for repair, take extensive photographs of the items before shipment. I had a rep from Seagate try to tell me that a drive I pulled from a server for RMA replacement was void because "all of the screws" were missing. This was of course complete BS, and when I sent them the photos of the drive before I shipped it and when they sent it back unrepaired, they changed their tune. They sent me a prepaid box to ship the drive back to them and replaced it without further question.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone dropped your phone or damaged it in shipping and now they are passing the costs onto you. Ask for photos of the alleged "LCD damage".
Good luck,
Mike
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Thanks, I actually did take photos of the screen. How would I request them to take photos? I have no contact info for this "repair center". They never contacted me, if I didn't call the call center I wouldn't have even known where my phone was. I think my biggest problem with this is that I've been given zero information about my phone and I just have to take this outsourced rep's word that I broke my phone and I need to pay them.
wase4711 said:
when you buy cheap used phones on Ebay, you never know what is really going on with them; obviously, yours had issues that didnt show up right away..
I dont think Samsungs warranty extends to subsequent users after the original owner...
Dont expect perfection when you buy used phones on ebay..
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The phone was basically new. Samsung told me the warranty started the month I got it. It wasn't registered to anyone, I didn't even register it until I first called.
From my experience from working for customer care for the mobile industry; dont ever count on warranty to fix your issue. Insurance works better, but they can screw you over with that as well. Even if its not damaged...
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the phone was damaged, any damage voids the warranty
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So basicly that means there is no warranty...
I have called samsung in the past also and had issues with there customer service for mobile devices over the stupied usb plug that just pops out, that i just ended up throwing away and buying my own. Sorry to hear about your issues but I would request if they could just ship the phone back to you and you'll fix your self because all there going to do is fix the screen and not do anything with the overheating.
Regardless of the outcome. ..the story holds true. ..
Samsung gets bad or broken devices pushed to them every second of every day. ..
These devices are turned in under warranty and are clearly "NOT" a warranty issue. ..
Then people get mad for having to pay in getting the device fixed..
Now don't get me wrong. ..I'm no sammy fanboy....and absolutely sympathize with your situation. ..but honestly. ..
Those techs know what to look for when finding damaged device's. ..
And when they put the device through it's paces on the test bench. ..the truth pops up...
Battery was clearly not the issue. ..and the display was...
And it's very likely that the person selling the phone on ebay knew it too...
You are a victim of a shady deal. ..
And yes. ..you have an option. ..sadly it's $191 and change to exercise it...
Not your fault. ..and not Samsung either. ..
The rip off that sold you a bad device is to blame. ..and owes you about $200 as I see it. ..
Buyer beware. ...g
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gregsarg said:
Regardless of the outcome. ..the story holds true. ..
Samsung gets bad or broken devices pushed to them every second of every day. ..
These devices are turned in under warranty and are clearly "NOT" a warranty issue. ..
Then people get mad for having to pay in getting the device fixed..
Now don't get me wrong. ..I'm no sammy fanboy....and absolutely sympathize with your situation. ..but honestly. ..
Those techs know what to look for when finding damaged device's. ..
And when they put the device through it's paces on the test bench. ..the truth pops up...
Battery was clearly not the issue. ..and the display was...
And it's very likely that the person selling the phone on ebay knew it too...
You are a victim of a shady deal. ..
And yes. ..you have an option. ..sadly it's $191 and change to exercise it...
Not your fault. ..and not Samsung either. ..
The rip off that sold you a bad device is to blame. ..and owes you about $200 as I see it. ..
Buyer beware. ...g
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Ok let try some productive help. How long have you had the phone? Ebay covers the buyer for a period of time. Read there terms and conditions. So does paypal. Contact the seller dependi g on how long you had your phone. I sell used phones on ebay and I back my stuff I sell. So try those avenues of help. At the very least it doesnt hurt to try. Also you can pay the 191 then sell it online as refurbished or just sell it online for parts and buy a different phone.
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Thanks for the replies. I think I'll just call and have it sent back to me. Hopefully it doesn't comeback with more damage...
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Ok let try some productive help. How long have you had the phone? Ebay covers the buyer for a period of time. Read there terms and conditions. So does paypal. Contact the seller dependi g on how long you had your phone. I sell used phones on ebay and I back my stuff I sell. So try those avenues of help. At the very least it doesnt hurt to try. Also you can pay the 191 then sell it online as refurbished or just sell it online for parts and buy a different phone.
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I bought in January. I just checked my eBay account, and surprise surprise now he's "No longer a registered user".
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I bought in January. I just checked my eBay account, and surprise surprise now he's "No longer a registered user".
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Just an update:
I called my bank and I was told I could "possibly" be refunded due to the issue. I'm not really counting on it though. I also contacted Samsung again and was connected to a nice rep. He decided to escalate my issue to "advance technical support". The ATS rep said any LCD damage still voids the warranty, but because of the bad info I was originally given and the "unacceptable" lack of updates he could reduce the fee. He said he could drop it to $70, expedite the service, and also include a motherboard, processor, and battery replacement for free. It sounds like a good offer, but I'm wondering if they'd just say they replaced the parts, but really never touched them...
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Just an update:
I called my bank and I was told I could "possibly" be refunded due to the issue. I'm not really counting on it though. I also contacted Samsung again and was connected to a nice rep. He decided to escalate my issue to "advance technical support". The ATS rep said any LCD damage still voids the warranty, but because of the bad info I was originally given and the "unacceptable" lack of updates he could reduce the fee. He said he could drop it to $70, expedite the service, and also include a motherboard, processor, and battery replacement for free. It sounds like a good offer, but I'm wondering if they'd just say they replaced the parts, but really never touched them...
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Thats a good deal take Samsung up on offer fast
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Thats a good deal take Samsung up on offer fast
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+1 take them on their offer. Oh ya another thing check your paypal account for the address of the filthy scum who sold you the phone, take matters into your own hands, I would HUNT him DOWN!
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+1 take them on their offer. Oh ya another thing check your paypal account for the address of the filthy scum who sold you the phone, take matters into your own hands, I would HUNT him DOWN!
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ARGH!!!!
I just called Samsung again and asked to speak to ATS so I can pay for the repair. I told the woman the issue and she read all the notes from the beginning. Now she is telling me this is definitely a warranty issue regardless of LCD damage. She said when phones arrive first they take them apart before they do any investigations into the problems. Apparently it was written off as "out of warranty" because of the LCD damage without even looking for the cause. She told me not pay for repairs and that she added extra notes to escalate this to the warranty department. Unfortunately it was closed, so she told me to call back on Monday and they will transfer me there.
Good lord sammy sucks. How is it that companies can achieve these marvelous pieces of engineering every couple of years yet they can't give you the same story when you call them on the phone.
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The plot thickens....
Companies get so big they become ineffective...at doing anything well...g
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So I called today and explained again what happened. This time I was told there is no warranty department and that ATS is capable of solving my problem. He told me because I sent it in expecting it to be a free repair, I was never given any status updates, I was given misinformation several times, and this has been such a long drawn out ordeal, he waived the $70. So now they're expediting the repair, replacing the screen, motherboard, processor and battery free of charge. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that this will be the end of it. I'll update once my phone is back in my hands.
I wouldn't count on it. They prolly just want you off the phone
And when it comes back repaired you will have a warranty on their work.