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Ok, so my wife claims to have installed ClubMz's Extreme Cell Phone Spy Gear 2010 Platinum on her laptop and cell. She claims to have been watching me for the last 5 months. I know I havent done anything wrong but find this creepy. I'd rather save the fight and not get upset or call her a crazy %$^ch. Is this legit? And how can I block her from spying on me? lol
looking at their website i would say it's not going to be very reliable software.
i've always found that if they need flashy graphics and they SCREAM at you what they do, it's probably crap.
here's a better question. if your wife is saying she has it on her laptop...why not look at her laptop and see what it does/doesn't do?
Use your own laptop and phone?
EDIT: So wait, how does this even work? Do both devices need Bluetooth enabled to get the data or what? And it doesn't look like you put it on your computer, so I'm not sure what she means by that. Looks to me like you'll have to have Bluetooth enabled on your phone and be close enough to hers for it to get the data. I wonder if just turning it off on your end will hinder her efforts.
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looking at their website i would say it's not going to be very reliable software.
i've always found that if they need flashy graphics and they SCREAM at you what they do, it's probably crap.
here's a better question. if your wife is saying she has it on her laptop...why not look at her laptop and see what it does/doesn't do?
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Im not the type that likes to snoop around. She said she would show me what she has. I would rather just avoid all that and block her from any future "snooping"
orris said:
Use your own laptop and phone?
EDIT: So wait, how does this even work? Do both devices need Bluetooth enabled to get the data or what? And it doesn't look like you put it on your computer, so I'm not sure what she means by that. Looks to me like you'll have to have Bluetooth enabled on your phone and be close enough to hers for it to get the data. I wonder if just turning it off on your end will hinder her efforts.
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I think you're right. It may only install on the laptop then you transfer it somehow to your phone. From what I read, it does require bt. But mine is always off. Did it only require bt to be enabled to install some hidden spyware on my phone? Maybe she turned bt on my phone while I was sleeping to get what she needed? I have no clue.
Bro...the real issue here is your relationship. F*ck...lol.
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Bro...the real issue here is your relationship. F*ck...lol.
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Wow that's worse than parents eavesdropping on their children.
Seriously bro. Time to assert your pimp hand.
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Sounds like some lame scare tactic to get you all paranoid. Damn, they have a platinum version? I only got the bronze package. Oh wells.
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Bro...the real issue here is your relationship. F*ck...lol.
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+1 agreed. She's always paranoid since I travel a lot for business. Insecurity can crush a marriage.
Get ready to sign those papers.
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I hope you realize that by her installing that software on your phone without your knowledge constitutes a federal wiretapping felony. Also if your employer gets wind that wifey is snooping via your phone (this software uses weak encryption) that you can lose your job, and be liable for any private corporate information that could get leaked. Also get sued for disclosure...
I'll tell you this much is my wifey put **** like that on any of my stuff he ass would be out to the curb in a heartbeat, and talking to a lawyer.
I say f**k that ho ho ho (Xmas spirit right there) backup ur important stuff and restore to factory
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Anyone use nfc? I still have yet to find a use for it. If you use it then what do you do with it. If you don't then do you feel it is useless?
at least we have it... some dont
Not using it yet.....
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Yeah, for now it's pretty useless in the U.S. Other countries are using it though, we have just fallen behind as far as NFC goes.
NFC doesn't seem to work with CM7 on my phone, it just straight doesn't turn on. I haven't seen it in the list of "not working" stuff in the threads, but I'm not sure what I'd do with it yet, so I'm not too worried
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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I've been playing with it also with simple routine stuff like this. As soon as I get more tags i'm going to make some for checkins at my favorite hangouts... etc. But to date the most useful tasks I use NFC are checking the balance on my Clipper Card and Door entry access.
I've been trying the ports of CM7 but as soon as I've checked it out I bounce back to a backup because it won't work under CM7 and I need that door entry access.
Cheers
Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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Ty for link and advice! cool now i know what i can use it for
noodles2224 said:
Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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that´s not right, in the us you can already pay at Mc Donalds with nfc (Nexus S 4g). For example in Germany, we don´t even have nfc phones.
Is it some becauze I dont anything, anywhere that nfc ready in cali
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It's useless, I just turn it off...not worth mentioning if a phone even has it.
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It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
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It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
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It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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what do Euros and Asians use NFC for?
If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.[/QUOTE said:
That is very true, everything comes first with iPhones. Just example, iPhone can start up some cars that are synced with.. Android doesn't have an app like that..
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jessejames111981 said:
It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Worst part is iphone users will act like apple pioneered and invented NFC.
I disagree. I think you will see a lot of the users of older iPhones will upgrade and if NFC is incorporated into the phone those pesky Apple Fanboys you love to deride will be advocates for the cause. The monolithic platform will work in it's favor unlike Android phones that have NFC built in and functional but crippled because the platform is fragmented by the carriers. All those users coming online at once will be what gets us to critical mass... but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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I disagree. I have an all out apple fanboy at work that swears the drop down notification bar was invented by apple even though it just got implemented in ios5. Swears that apple pioneered 4g. Invented the touchscreen. And a few others.
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even apple claims they invented a single button and rounded edges.
Since there were people who were still asking questions about NFC I figured I'd throw together a quick video demonstrating real life NFC use. These are all real purchases (though I purposely kept the cost down lol).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g
Nice video.
hmm everytime i try it at 7-11 nothing happens. Im using the extended battery and on cm9 kang rom
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Have you considered the dev broke nfc? Have you verified nfc works? Does your extended batery have an nfc antenna in it?
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Nice video.
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Thank you.
teng247 said:
hmm everytime i try it at 7-11 nothing happens. Im using the extended battery and on cm9 kang rom
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If you're using a generic extended battery that is most likely the problem, as I believe the antenna for the NFC functionality is located in the battery. If you are using the correct battery then it is quite possible that the dev of that particular ROM may not have it functional yet.
I use NFC all the time, alot more than I expected because of Wallet. Alot more places take it than you think and being able to add money to a prepaid card is cool too.
just wish there was a way to top it up internationally!
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just wish there was a way to top it up internationally!
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Why can't it be topped up internationally?
I'll never forget my first time I used it at a BP gas station to get smokes. The cashier did the WTF??!?!? Face expression when I took out my phone and paid for it. I tried to keep a straight face until I exited the place than I bursted laughing lol. I should have recorded it.
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Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
Another nice video of yours.
It went strait to my apple fan-boy friends in facebook, please don't sue me lol.
Krijs said:
Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
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Thought it could be used here, haven't people been using NFC at McDonalds. A few years ago there was a huge trial of NFC in London. I'm sure the stuff is still in place there. (I have GWallet on My nexus here in the UK but never used it)
There's a large scale trial in Nice (France) where I live, and they sell NFC phones (a modified Galaxy S II among others) with the ability to add your credit card, pay your bus fare with your phone bill, know exactly when the next bus arrives by tapping your phone on the NFC tag at your stop, or learn stuff about monuments and landmarks by tapping your phone on a NFC tag placed on a glass pane. Pretty cool stuff!
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Since there were people who were still asking questions about NFC I figured I'd throw together a quick video demonstrating real life NFC use. These are all real purchases (though I purposely kept the cost down lol).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g
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Nice video! I used mine the first time the other day at a 7-11. I was concerned because I had put the new extended battery in and my OtterBox case on. Worked like a champ. I really like being able to pay that way. I recommend downloading the PayPass Locator app from the market to help find locations.
Two questions though, at Home Depot when it said to show your card what did the cashier do? Also, did you hit cancel when it said to enter the pin and run it as credit?
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Another nice video of yours.
It went strait to my apple fan-boy friends in facebook, please don't sue me lol.
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LMAO! What did they say?
cyberpyr8 said:
Nice video! I used mine the first time the other day at a 7-11. I was concerned because I had put the new extended battery in and my OtterBox case on. Worked like a champ. I really like being able to pay that way. I recommend downloading the PayPass Locator app from the market to help find locations.
Two questions though, at Home Depot when it said to show your card what did the cashier do? Also, did you hit cancel when it said to enter the pin and run it as credit?
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I had to explain to her that there was no physical card to show. I explained to her how NFC works and she still wasn't buying it lol. So I had to open up the Wallet app and show her the picture of the virtual card to further explain it. Finally she understood (somewhat) and let it go through....the funny thing was it was only a 34 cent purchase! lmao.
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Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
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Wish we could use it in the UK, would be amazing to use as a Oyster card too...
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LMAO! What did they say? ..
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Not single a word lol
owned !!!!
Do you have the Otterbox defender series case? I didn't get the extended battery because I thought it wouldn't fit.
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How do you know the place your at accepts NFC payment? I really wanna try this out
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Wish we could use it in the UK, would be amazing to use as a Oyster card too...
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London Transport will be soon http://www.nfcworld.com/2011/07/12/38537/transport-for-london-to-accept-nfc-payments-from-2012/
The Barclay card trial of NFC in London a few years ago included London Underground etc.
What can we do to get GW accepted in more places? Or places that take paypass to get the darn machines working??? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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Use it. That's about it. To be honest though, there really isn't a big demand for the technology at the moment. Few people have devices that can use the technology, and fewer still actually bother with it even if they have a capable device. The physical wallet isn't going anywhere anytime soon because it contains many things that your phone probably won't be privy to for a long time. Why bother with Google Wallet when you can just as easily pull out the credit card that your google wallet uses anyway, and not have to worry about whether or not the place you're at has NFC support?
I would LOVE for Google Wallet to catch on (and get a few more features <.<; ) and I think it will-- in a few years. For now, however, Google Wallet hasn't really proven itself to businesses and the average user as anything more than a gimmick.
I won't even bother using it until I can link it to my debit card.
More and more places accept paypass all the time. Google wallet isn't the only thing that uses it btw. I've never had an issue with a paypass machine myself.
I FINALLY found a place in my town where it works. It was a McDonalds, heh. Too bad I almost never go to McDonalds....
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I won't even bother using it until I can link it to my debit card.
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This I would like to link it to other cards other then citi cards....
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The feature I like the best is that it's not linked to my atm/debit card or my personal credit cards. That its only linked to the Google card and I have to put money into it makes me feel very safe and secure. I would have never activated Google wallet if it linked to my personal banking and credit info. This is by far the safest rout.
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Linking it to debit would help acceptance a lot I think. And perhaps digital ids but that may be a ways off unless governments step in and push that. But as is, it is probably too easy to hack, fake or manipulate digital ids. But it would be sooooo freaking awesome to get other cards working with this tech. Car insurance, health insurance, club, grocery store cards/ids. A true digital wallet would be awesome. Would have to get a leather case for my nexus then.
let it be.
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Linking it to debit would help acceptance a lot I think. And perhaps digital ids but that may be a ways off unless governments step in and push that. But as is, it is probably too easy to hack, fake or manipulate digital ids. But it would be sooooo freaking awesome to get other cards working with this tech. Car insurance, health insurance, club, grocery store cards/ids. A true digital wallet would be awesome. Would have to get a leather case for my nexus then.
let it be.
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Nah ductape case is better LOL jk
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Like another person said the acceptance of Google wallet isn't the issue it is updating them because I think MasterCard only card that some have built-in got lectured at wall greens that they won't turn it on but what's point in having it displayed anyway next iPhone 5 is supposedly going to have it so demand should increase and public awareness of it should increase I swear one place kept hitting cancel on me on purpose because they thought I was scamming them.
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Was able to link my food stamps to it. Been on a spending Bender ever since.
Went straight to the strip club where, surprisingly, they have pay pass. Then off to cigarette depot for some smokes. Bought me a carton, no more loosies for me. After that, got some lotto tickets @ 7-11. Then off to white castle.
I even got enough left on my "IL Link" card that I can sell the rest of the funds to one of my baby mommas for fifty cent on the dolla.
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Like another person said the acceptance of Google wallet isn't the issue it is updating them because I think MasterCard only card that some have built-in got lectured at wall greens that they won't turn it on but what's point in having it displayed anyway next iPhone 5 is supposedly going to have it so demand should increase and public awareness of it should increase I swear one place kept hitting cancel on me on purpose because they thought I was scamming them.
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That's probably another "issue". If iPhone doesn't have it is no good or not cool.
let it be.
Basically companies have to pay for the machines that they use to accept credit cards etc. The only way for this to get HUGE and FAST is for Google to become contracted with certain businesses to provide them with these PayPass scanners, even if they have to produce their own Google Branded versions. This way they have control and can distribute them. Otherwise ATM we are stuck with places that have the PayPass machines. Most companies go cheap and get those ugly looking grey plastic card machines that aren't very advanced, just for the fact they are cheap. Google will have to make the move though, businesses will not pay the dough to switch to these machines.
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After that, got some lotto tickets @ 7-11.
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Lol, I'm up to around 170ish transactions using Wallet at this point, but the one thing I can never buy is Lotto tickets at 7-11. They tell me you can't buy them with a credit card.
I use mine all the time...
McD's, 7-11, CVS and even Whole Foods. There's an app for MC Paypass locations and I've found everywhere that's on the list generally accepts them. I have to agree with it being limited. Google Wallet needs to stop treating this like a hobby and add cards other than Citibank. GW needs to mature a lot before ISIS or even Apple arrives on the scene.
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krichek said:
Lol, I'm up to around 170ish transactions using Wallet at this point, but the one thing I can never buy is Lotto tickets at 7-11. They tell me you can't buy them with a credit card.
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LOL... I've heard the clerks tell people they can't use credit cards. I just ambush them and hit the terminal with my phone and if they ever say anything I can just show them the pic of the GW Prepaid and point at the "DEBIT" in the graphic. After all I can't control how their POS terminal processes it and by the time they notice it's too late.
krichek said:
Lol, I'm up to around 170ish transactions using Wallet at this point, but the one thing I can never buy is Lotto tickets at 7-11. They tell me you can't buy them with a credit card.
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clearly you aren't on food stamps or you would know how to work those angles. Lol.
And, I was being sarcastic about everything I said. just to make sure everyone knows. But you can bet that someone will figure out how to link their food stamps to this. Here in Illinois food stamps are on a debit card called "Illinois link". And like most states, there are people who use them that know how to work the system to get all sorts of crazy stuff.
This morning I was at the gas station behind a guy who used his link to buy candy and soda not just for him but for his buddy too. Wearing 200 Jordans, gold chains, about 250 worth of clothes on, a gold grill, and diamonds in his ears. Talking on an iphone 4 the whole time. Then watched him get into his relatively new Lincoln Navigator with 20+" wheels. Then I had the privilege of following him on my way to work. His stereo booming the two blocks until he pulled into the govt housing authority homes, where I wouldn't be surprised if he lived.
So...I guess that probably contributed to my sarcasm this morning.
At any rate, won't be surprised if food stamps are on Nfc within a year or two.
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So...I guess that probably contributed to my sarcasm this morning.
At any rate, won't be surprised if food stamps are on Nfc within a year or two.
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Hate to say it, but that is a way for nfc to get a big push. Otoh, nfc is usually in high end phones, even subsidized ones so the other side of the equation is "dafuq?"
let it be.
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Google Wallet needs to stop treating this like a hobby and add cards other than Citibank.
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They would love to but if you don't have cooperation, then it can't happen. Too many of those companies are trying to compete with GW so they will not allow it.
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clearly you aren't on food stamps or you would know how to work those angles. Lol.
And, I was being sarcastic about everything I said. just to make sure everyone knows. But you can bet that someone will figure out how to link their food stamps to this. Here in Illinois food stamps are on a debit card called "Illinois link". And like most states, there are people who use them that know how to work the system to get all sorts of crazy stuff.
This morning I was at the gas station behind a guy who used his link to buy candy and soda not just for him but for his buddy too. Wearing 200 Jordans, gold chains, about 250 worth of clothes on, a gold grill, and diamonds in his ears. Talking on an iphone 4 the whole time. Then watched him get into his relatively new Lincoln Navigator with 20+" wheels. Then I had the privilege of following him on my way to work. His stereo booming the two blocks until he pulled into the govt housing authority homes, where I wouldn't be surprised if he lived.
So...I guess that probably contributed to my sarcasm this morning.
At any rate, won't be surprised if food stamps are on Nfc within a year or two.
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I work with the side of providing free services to some of those people and the best part is a fair number of them tend to be the most demanding and presumptuous people I've met... just plain rude. Not sure what it is about paying for something that makes you nicer. Maybe we just don't appreciate something as much if its free. This doesn't apply to everyone but I see it often enough that it bugs me. Okay I'm done with my rant haha
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I work with the side of providing free services to some of those people and the best part is a fair number of them tend to be the most demanding and presumptuous people I've met... just plain rude. Not sure what it is about paying for something that makes you nicer. Maybe we just don't appreciate something as much if its free. This doesn't apply to everyone but I see it often enough that it bugs me. Okay I'm done with my rant haha
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I hear ya. I used to live directly across from govt projects. I would always see aarons and rent a center trucks there dropping off big screen TV's. I even see several 50"+ televisions on the trash curb. Aside from that it wasn't a horrible place to live. if you don't mind loud music, large groups of 50+ people fighting with everything from broom sticks to tire irons, and weekly shootings that is.
But yeah. My sister is a cashier @ Walmart a and says a large portion of the people are rude. I've seen it myself standing in line behind many of them.
And don't get me wrong. A good deal of those people are in legitimate need of assistance. They are grateful for the help and do what they can to become self sufficient as time goes on.
But a significant portion of the people are not deserving, are rude, dishonest, and generally don't deserve anything they get.
and as for the comment about how putting food stamps on these devices would probably drive Google wallet. It probably would. And even though it is only on high end phones, you can bet your bottom dollar that a lot of people on welfare have high end phones.
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Ive been thinking over this past couple days over a few things since the launch of iphone 5. One thing which caught my attention was lack of NFC in iphones 5th edition.
So I have NFC in my GS3 and its a cool feature to tell people about but I havent used it for anything. It's an upcoming technology and for now its nothing more useful than playing with nfc tags (which is fun). But would lack of NFC hurt anyone. How much would u have missed it if it wasnt in ur GS3?
I know some of us have been able to hack gwallet but i dont think a company like samsung makes decison based on some of us who can fully utilize a technology
(If u dont like my qn dont hate me, dont call me isheep or other names as ive never owned any iphone)
Looking for a healthy discussion
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I haven't used it either. Don't feel bad its not that big of a deal. What's the point of putting technology in a phone if it can't be used in practical life situations.
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the people that work at Apple are smart. Their stock is up right, now. But, they are on their way out.
They don't have the vision. Especially without Jobs to keep the public happy overpaying for apps and songs
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Well, I think NFC is an upcoming technology, and like any other before that, the success of a new technology depends on various factors such as adoption rate, business value added, ease of use, and the support of technology consumer in his case merchants and end user.
If Apple put NFC in their latest iphone, that will boost the adoption rate as like it or not they have millions users. However even without apple's support of NFC, if most of other smartphone manufacturer especially android put NFC in the phone and merchants start to accept NFC as mode of payment, I believe apple will put NFC in the next release of iphone.
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It's better to have it not need it.. than to need it not have it..
What bad is it doing us?
Very good point but I guess apple likes to prepare its user for an upcoming technology and then gradually guide them into its usage and then make money off of them, which they r doing thru passbook. Which isnt a bad way of selling a service coz my 60 yr old dad wont understand nfc netime if I throw my gs3 at him.
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I love NFC. I use my Google wallet wherever I can and using android beam is really cool.
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thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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Well I pray to God that doesn't happen and thankful it hasn't. So far I am enjoying my NFC chip
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kobe4rings said:
thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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You could make an argument like that about anything. If you take vitamins for instance, I could say "If you're too lazy to eat the proper foods to get your vitamins, you deserve to die of malnutrition".
Back on topic, I don't ever use NFC but mainly because no one accepts it. Apple could have changed that, it'd have been a "magical" and "revolutionary" new technology.
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I don't have an S3 but I do know a little bit about the nfc card. As stated people who know what they are doing can steal your info from the chip. But the answer is aluminum. The chips cannot be read through it. Just like the "Aluma-Wallets" shown on tv, and the aluminum and tin mixture that is used prevents any connections to the chip. If someone could come out with an aluminum case for the S3 (there may already be one knowing this flaw) the chip would be safe. Or even a belt holster, that way you can still use the function of it but only when you want to.
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thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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Google Wallet ins't broadcasting your CC data over NFC all the time; you have to login to it and select the card you want to use. Then you swipe your phone by the reader and confirm the charge on the screen.
If my phone is lost/stolen, I have a PIN to login to the phone, another PIN to activate Google Wallet, and Cerebus running under root to allow me to remotely find it, take pictures of the person holding it, and wipe the phone's internal and SD memory; I don't have any kind of that security on my $10 wallet.
I would also much rather use NFC for purchases than to hand my credit card over to a restaurant server and let them go in the back and take pictures of the front & back of it with their cell phones.
And if you have a good enough bank it takes 5 minutes on the phone to put those funds right back where they belong if someone stole your credit card information from your phone like that. I stopped carrying cash 6 years ago. If this technology takes the only thing I'll need to carry is my phone with my driver's license wedged in the case.
Credit card data isn't stored on the phone. Purchases are authorized through a virtual Mastercard through Google and then Google processes that payment to your card. Your personal CC info is never transfered from the NFC on your phone.
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kobe4rings said:
thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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What if you loose your wallet? To use Google wallet you need a pin to log in, plus Google wallet it's not on all the time, you need to log in and choose which card to use, but if you loose your wallet, most places don't ask for I'd so they can use the crap out of your card before you realize you lost it.
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I Definitely Think nfc is still a burgeoning technology, that just hasnt hit its stride, but its picking up, and now is the right time to have it, as its adoption rate will build over the next two years... The general life expectancy or our phones.
The thing ng with apple is they dont take risks ... They are slow and safe to adopt, and usually only do it, after a technology and its usefulness have been proven. Theyre strength is their ability to take a proven technology and reinvent it in away that is simplified and easy to use for the masses. So they wont take a risks on nfc yet... But they are slowly building the services to rely on it, once they do deploy. And deployment will only be after devices like ours have proven its usefulness.
That said, i myself am weary of using it for cc purposes... But i love it for other purposes such as data transfer, i.e. Android beam, S-beam, etc... Ive found them very useful and have used my nfc chip ti share data from my device to others with ease, more often than i expected. Also i believe with nfc, itll make wireless charging our devices possible, and im waiting to try that as well... So even w/o the cc stuff.. Nfc is proving itself to me everyday... Its just up to the user to determine the best use of it, for themselves.
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Much like every other new technology... why spend (and waste) money implementing it when it'd be nothing more than a novelty with no practical use. It's the reason they just now added LTE to the iPhone; until now no company has had a respectable LTE network. Apple doesn't need to gamble.
Back to the topic though, NFC is useless right now. It's nothing more than a novelty that you need to go out of your way to use on a daily basis. I absolutely love the idea of never having to carry a wallet again and would definitely adopt NFC into my day to day life... once the technology is mainstream.
Apple tries to dictate what people need...
Also i believe with nfc, itll make wireless charging our devices possible, and im waiting to try that as well...
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Third party charging pads may already be available, they come with a new back cover to make it work.
What bothers me about this post is the fact that one piece of technology is being judged over an entire list of more important key advancements that clearly makes a huge difference between the two devices. I'm not trying to sway anyones thoughts and im not going to point out the obvious but to isolate one feature and try to get people to ground the future development if it is underhanded.
In a year from now if NFC takes off and is supported everywhere Apple will change their tune and add it themselves with a better encryption feature of some sort and claim that NFC is only better due to Apple supporting it. Either way it comes down to what company finds it more relevant and who puts a better twist to the advertisement, what most people don't read is the fact its not new technology at all and agencies have been using it for years.
I don't know but its all drama no matter how its brought up it all depends if you the user can use it and if it makes your life easier, just the fact that you can put your medical info on it and hospitals can scan it in the event you can't speak for yourself at the ER makes a huge difference in my book.
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