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[Q] Air-watch, end of rooted phones?

Hello everyone,
Im an IT guy for the company i work for and my boss the exchange admin is looking at some software to secure android phones. (Rooted ones) He found this software called (air-watch). http://www.air-watch.com/platforms/android/index.html Can someone smarter them me take a look and see if this means the end for all of us with rooted phones in the company. Im not sure how rooting phones affects how they are seen from exchange but i love my Roms and wifi teather

sgtagem said:
Hello everyone,
Im an IT guy for the company i work for and my boss the exchange admin is looking at some software to secure android phones. (Rooted ones) He found this software called (air-watch). http://www.air-watch.com/platforms/android/index.html Can someone smarter them me take a look and see if this means the end for all of us with rooted phones in the company. Im not sure how rooting phones affects how they are seen from exchange but i love my Roms and wifi teather
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Looking at how the software has functionality to push policies and restrict usage of apps I'd say it would definitely allow them to micromanage the phones. But then again, as an IT guy I'd guess you wouldn't be happy if one of your users decided they wanted to blow away whatever OS you installed on a PC and put Ubuntu on it.

Im just hoping that it will not prevent a phone that is rooted from connecting to exchange. I really love wireless teather lol

That would require a tremondous amount of intelligence on the part of the system. I think this is more for 'allow only people who work for me to access the site' and everyone else should be denied.

sgtagem said:
Im just hoping that it will not prevent a phone that is rooted from connecting to exchange. I really love wireless teather lol
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Since this is in the Incredible forum I'm assuming you have an Incredible, in which case you dont need to be rooted to wireless tether...just FYI if your boss cracks down.
Google "HTC tether natively" and I'm sure it will pop

I read thru the site from the link.
Looks like through air-watch they'd have full admin access to device.
Question is whether the air-watch admin would 'blacklist' the superuser and/or tethering app(s).
Unlikely, imho, whether an astute IT person and/or admin of this system would allow a superuser app on devices that connect to company assets, but stranger things have happened.

Another thing i like is the root unistaller/ set cpu and custom roms. but thats another battle haha

Plus if you try to wipe the phone and install the new ROM, I am sure the Boss is going to have a few words with whoever did it.
Besides, it's not their phone, it's the company's phone. They can do what they want with it.

I work for a company in the top 20 of the fortune 500..we're looking at allowing employees to bring their own devices into our exchange servers but the catch is how to remote wipe them..they are looking at how to deal with rooted devices. I'm not privy to how they are working that out.

RXWatcher said:
I work for a company in the top 20 of the fortune 500..we're looking at allowing employees to bring their own devices into our exchange servers but the catch is how to remote wipe them..they are looking at how to deal with rooted devices. I'm not privy to how they are working that out.
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Thats what we are trying to do. my boss is afraid of a rooted droid bringing in some virus/malware in and he would also like to force things like screen lock pin codes. I dont see how a rooted phone would bring that stuff in anymore then a stock one but forcing a security policy would stop someone from stealing data from it rooted or not i would think

The fact that it is rooted does not make it any more likely to get a virus then an unrooted phone. Almost all android phones have the ability to install apps from the SD card and that is where a virus won't come from, not the ROM you happen to be using.
However, the installation of this could put your phone in shackles. In addition to the possibility of restricting what you can install, such as games, it could kill your ability to connect to wifi hotspots that are unknown to your company, they could can wipe your phone at a moments notice and track your location without your knowledge.
That way if you call in sick, your boss can find out if you are really at the game or home in bed.
In any case, if this is a work phone then you don't have much choice but if this is your personal phone, I would try to stay clear of it.

Very nice answer. Im the one who has to implement it so i can always exclude myself from the devices that are being watched. The call in sick thing is an awsome yet crappy thing lol

sgtagem said:
Very nice answer. Im the one who has to implement it so i can always exclude myself from the devices that are being watched. The call in sick thing is an awsome yet crappy thing lol
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Simple solution to "call in sick " concern : Turn Off The Phone.
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cam30era said:
Simple solution to "call in sick " concern : Turn Off The Phone.
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Or leave it at home and enjoy the game. Less suspicious if the phone is on and at home than off and lord knows where.
HTC Incredible

My employer is extremely security aware, and they are considering using an app named "Good." It partitions the Exchange data in an encrypted folder and allow that folder to be remotely wiped. Accessing the data is only available through the app, which is PIN protected.
This may be a better solution to your boss... and you.
This is what they have told me, I have not used it yet, and I am an amatuer at best when it comes to IM/IT. They were amazed and very concerned when they became aware that rooting and installing a custom ROM was easy enough that I could successfully do it...

Glad my employer hasn't learned how to do remote wipes on Droid phones since it would be end of many of us that hate iPhones. 75% of our staff use Droid phones and 50% of us have our phone rooted.

JohnKuczek said:
My employer is extremely security aware, and they are considering using an app named "Good." It partitions the Exchange data in an encrypted folder and allow that folder to be remotely wiped. Accessing the data is only available through the app, which is PIN protected.
This may be a better solution to your boss... and you.
This is what they have told me, I have not used it yet, and I am an amatuer at best when it comes to IM/IT. They were amazed and very concerned when they became aware that rooting and installing a custom ROM was easy enough that I could successfully do it...
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That sounds like a perfect solution. where can i find that app? is there a website or something

sgtagem said:
That sounds like a perfect solution. where can i find that app? is there a website or something
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It is in the Market. The full name is "Good for Enterprise" and the dev is listed as "Good Technology"

Policy for personal phones
Our company finally decided to allow personal phones to be connected to exchange. The phone just has to be compatible with accepting exchange policy, and we had to sign a company form stating that we are ok with them wiping our data if the situation arose.

JohnKuczek said:
It is in the Market. The full name is "Good for Enterprise" and the dev is listed as "Good Technology"
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that software looks alot better then the air-watch. seems alot more direct rather then locking down the whole phone lock the exchange info. Im gonna pitch that to my boss. I bet its alot cheeper too

pretty cool, NFC for e4gt!

Actually for just about any android device. check it out, it seems pretty cool
http://www.moneto.me/faq

SDIO thats old school!

If it won't work with google wallet it seems like a waste to me.

RainMotorsports said:
SDIO thats old school!
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hmm, guess ive just never seen it posted anywhere. heard any good or bad about it?

Wait, what? You have to use their 1GB SD? Screw that... Not given up my 32GB for this.
Just wait til I get a phone with Google Wallet I guess. Even then, does anyone REALLY need this?

On my ns4g, I was super excited to use google wallet. First time trying it at Dairy Queen, didn't work, and had no cash on me. It was then I realized that carrying real money makes more sense than relying on a phone.

swamp goblin said:
On my ns4g, I was super excited to use google wallet. First time trying it at Dairy Queen, didn't work, and had no cash on me. It was then I realized that carrying real money makes more sense than relying on a phone.
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or, you know, a debit card that most people carry around within whatever is also holding their driver's license.

veritasaequita said:
hmm, guess ive just never seen it posted anywhere. heard any good or bad about it?
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Just how we used to attach things to Palm/PalmOne devices back in the day. I mean you know Apple didn't actually invent the smart phone or anything. Though more PDA and less Treo but there were devices for Wifi, GPS, Camera's etc all using SDIO. I had not seen it used for NFC but all I was commenting on was the technology behind it is old school.

this is for payments only and u can not use Android beam. Also I believe u have to pay a monthly fee. this is not what u think it is.
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Phone stolen. Does anyone know how Verizon can help?

So my best friends HTC one was stolen at gun point and he switched his service back over to an old iphone and we were wondering if verizon could do anything about it or there are any apps to find it. For some reason lookout wouldnt find it but it did take a picture of the guy who stole it because he put in a password wrong 5 times. If anyone has any suggestions just let me know.

thewagdy said:
So my best friends HTC one was stolen at gun point and he switched his service back over to an old iphone and we were wondering if verizon could do anything about it or there are any apps to find it. For some reason lookout wouldnt find it but it did take a picture of the guy who stole it because he put in a password wrong 5 times. If anyone has any suggestions just let me know.
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really the only thing that can be done at this point is report it stolen to kill the IMEI.
That sucks so bad.
amazing what this world is coming to.
I remember people getting show in Fl. walking out with their PS3

andybones said:
really the only thing that can be done at this point is report it stolen to kill the IMEI.
That sucks so bad.
amazing what this world is coming to.
I remember people getting show in Fl. walking out with their PS3
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Would it be worth letting the imei live and find out if someone activates by working with verizon. idk if they would do that. Yea it is crazy. What is even crazier is the phone caughta picture of the thief but they havent had luck finding him

thewagdy said:
Would it be worth letting the imei live and find out if someone activates by working with verizon. idk if they would do that. Yea it is crazy. What is even crazier is the phone caughta picture of the thief but they havent had luck finding him
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There is that new app that Google has on all their phones I can't remember what it's called but if he set it up he can remote wipe... If he carries insurance I think its covered.
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thewagdy said:
Would it be worth letting the imei live and find out if someone activates by working with verizon. idk if they would do that. Yea it is crazy. What is even crazier is the phone caughta picture of the thief but they havent had luck finding him
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wow man that is just horrible, so sorry to your friend.
I would possibly yea give that a try!
but he may sell it, and the guy who bought it had no idea, then hopefully can track back to the thief.

cstrife999 said:
There is that new app that Google has on all their phones I can't remember what it's called but if he set it up he can remote wipe... If he carries insurance I think its covered.
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he already switched the service over. idk if that matters.

Android device manager? It can only remotely swipe if you have given it Admin permission in your google settings, but it can and will locate the phone.
https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
Sign into the google you set the phone up with.

find this scum of the earth!!

Thief would have to get it unlocked and on WiFi to locate now. Cell data went back to the old iPhone he said. So the op's friend is likely screwed.
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dottat said:
Thief would have to get it unlocked and on WiFi to locate now. Cell data went back to the old iPhone he said. So the op's friend is likely screwed.
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unless you dont secure your device. I dont have a passcode unlock on my phone, but I've been trying to get tasker set up to turn it on when I leave my house, or some nfc tag to lock it when I leave

If it was still active there is an app in play store called Plan B where you could push app to the phone and get GPS location from it but as stated, if service was disconnected this won't work.
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That's horrible.
Android Device Manager works pretty much just like Apples Find My iPhone. It allows you to locate the device on a map and remotely wipe it.
However, with the One you have to actually go into the settings and enable it.
Unfortunately, as others have said, even if it were enabled, your friend has already turned the service to the One off, so the only way I can see would be if the One connects to a WiFi network.
Sucks... this is why I am so glad I live in Virginia and can carry a handgun anywhere I go.
Thieves... Scum of the earth.
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+1 on the carry permit. My 1911 goes where I go. 45ACP makes sure my belongings stay with me. But on the plus side... I'm glad you're alive.
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But don't you guys know we need stricter gun control?
I wish I was 21 and could get a conceal-carry. Thief pulls a gun, I pull mine.

crazyg0od33 said:
unless you dont secure your device. I dont have a passcode unlock on my phone, but I've been trying to get tasker set up to turn it on when I leave my house, or some nfc tag to lock it when I leave
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Yeah...my post was in reference to this specific case. If you really intend to track down your phone....leave data active until you find it.
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GrayTheWolf said:
But don't you guys know we need stricter gun control?
I wish I was 21 and could get a conceal-carry. Thief pulls a gun, I pull mine.
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but if he already has his gun pulled and he sees you going for something like a gun, he shoots, then claims self-defense.

whirl08 said:
+1 on the carry permit. My 1911 goes where I go. 45ACP makes sure my belongings stay with me. But on the plus side... I'm glad you're alive.
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So instead of giving him the phone and going home to your family you will try to draw your weapon and either kill someone or be killed? All for $600? The lawyer will charge you 50x that just to get you out of the slammer. Give the guy the phone and go home and hug your kids, your wife, your mother or all of the above. Use the gun for target practice.

bobby janow said:
So instead of giving him the phone and going home to your family you will try to draw your weapon and either kill someone or be killed? All for $600? The lawyer will charge you 50x that just to get you out of the slammer. Give the guy the phone and go home and hug your kids, your wife, your mother or all of the above. Use the gun for target practice.
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The minute someone draws a weapon on you, your life is gravely in danger. You respond according by handing over your belongings and tucking your tail then ending up in the paper because they raped your girlfriend in front of you, stole your phone and executed you. I prefer just to end the altercation with my 45. I'll take court over that.
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whirl08 said:
The minute someone draws a weapon on you, your life is gravely in danger. You respond according by handing over your belongings and tucking your tail then ending up in the paper because they raped your girlfriend in front of you, stole your phone and executed you. I prefer just to end the altercation with my 45. I'll take court over that.
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but if he already has his gun pulled and he sees you going for something like a gun, he shoots, then claims self-defense.
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Or you call self-defense.

GrayTheWolf said:
+1
Or you call self-defense.
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oh no for sure. I'm just saying his gun is already out... ok I'm done I hate these kind of discussion

[Q] Blocking guarddad off on my phone

Hey guy, so my mom is super protective and all this junk and im 16 years old and a guy im not that bad of a kid so theres no need for this plus a total invasion of privacy. They bought this thing its called guarddad for 70$ ! and they dont know i know about it. but it sees all text incoming and out, if i take a pic from my camera they can see it all call logs internet and all this crazy ****. i want it off or blocked, i want my phone on total lockdown with full privacy i have a sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 rooted. Please help

I had to Google it to find it, it's an interesting program. This isn't going to be what you want to hear, but it seems she is looking out for you. Moms do that, all through life. With all of the horrible things online she is worried about you. My suggestion, instead of going behind her back, is to talk with her about it. I don't think you will get the help you were expecting from this place. XDA is for development, not hacking.

metalfan78 said:
I had to Google it to find it, it's an interesting program. This isn't going to be what you want to hear, but it seems she is looking out for you. Moms do that, all through life. With all of the horrible things online she is worried about you. My suggestion, instead of going behind her back, is to talk with her about it. I'm don't think you will get the help you were expecting from this place. XDA is for development, not hacking.
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+1

metalfan78 said:
I had to Google it to find it, it's an interesting program. This isn't going to be what you want to hear, but it seems she is looking out for you. Moms do that, all through life. With all of the horrible things online she is worried about you. My suggestion, instead of going behind her back, is to talk with her about it. I don't think you will get the help you were expecting from this place. XDA is for development, not hacking.
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That's sounds a little over-protective to me. Even texts I understand but pictures? That's a little invasive. Anyway, think u could provide a link? I couldn't find what he was referring to.

It's actually called DadGuard. It is invasive, that's why I suggested he needs to talk to them about it.

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Hey guy, so my mom is super protective and all this junk and im 16 years old and a guy im not that bad of a kid so theres no need for this plus a total invasion of privacy. They bought this thing its called guarddad for 70$ ! and they dont know i know about it. but it sees all text incoming and out, if i take a pic from my camera they can see it all call logs internet and all this crazy ****. i want it off or blocked, i want my phone on total lockdown with full privacy i have a sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 rooted. Please help
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Not saying talking to your parents is a bad idea. But if you want to go the behind their back route download this and flash in custom recovery. Dadguard will be nonexistent after

If I found out my kid removed whatever tracker I put on her phone, that would be the end of that device.

You work fast billard, lol.

Kevets said:
If I found out my kid removed whatever tracker I put on her phone, that would be the end of that device.
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As a parent worried about his kids I agree completely. My kids know I look. My bill my device. I let you use it.
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shes way to protective as you like to call it. im 16 i can take care of myself. is she wants to see my phone fine, but going through it like that behind my back is way to much. she has my passwords as well for most things. i cant change it or my phone is taken away. she wouldnt want me doing that to her same for me. i really need some help with this

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shes way to protective as you like to call it. im 16 i can take care of myself. is she wants to see my phone fine, but going through it like that behind my back is way to much. she has my passwords as well for most things. i cant change it or my phone is taken away. she wouldnt want me doing that to her same for me. i really need some help with this
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Download the file I posted above and flash it. Problem solved

Wow. This app extremely blurs the line between overprotectiveness and outright 24/7 monitoring.
But won't they notice when they stop receiving the logs of everything you do? I mean, even antivirus programs will notify you once the online service detects that you haven't used the app in several days and such. I'm fairly sure this app would have some sort of safeguard like that.

CNexus said:
Wow. This app extremely blurs the line between overprotectiveness and outright 24/7 monitoring.
But won't they notice when they stop receiving the logs of everything you do? I mean, even antivirus programs will notify you once the online service detects that you haven't used the app in several days and such. I'm fairly sure this app would have some sort of safeguard like that.
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I was thinking the same thing with regards to both parts of this post. However, I hope this brat teenager does flash this "fix" and get in trouble. If he thinks he is so wise to the ways of the world and is so capable of taking care of himself, he can feel free to move out/get kicked out and then:
Pay rent/mortgage
Pay utilities/electric/water/etc.
Pay for groceries
Pay for car/insurance
Pay for TV/internet/etc.
Cook/clean/do laundry for himself
And oh yeah, presumably attend high school every day.
What an ungrateful little punk. He needs to understand that parents have the best interests of their kids at heart, and parents have already gone through teenage life themselves.

Android 5.0L Allows Bloatware Removal !!!!

This is a big deal for me, if we never receive root.
Let the discussion start.
http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/

OK, so this is pretty exciting information, i just hope this isnt something the carriers can disable in some way.
That being said, I do see one major downfall and that is, IMO, this might cause carriers to push the update slower, or even omit some devices that would normally get updated to make sure their apps are getting used on as many devices as possible.

Cant wait!!!

If true, it's a game changer. But why do I get the feeling carriers will still find a way to install crapware/bloatware that we can't remove.

LiquidHonesty said:
If true, it's a game changer. But why do I get the feeling carriers will still find a way to install crapware/bloatware that we can't remove.
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cloudraker said:
OK, so this is pretty exciting information, i just hope this isnt something the carriers can disable in some way.
That being said, I do see one major downfall and that is, IMO, this might cause carriers to push the update slower, or even omit some devices that would normally get updated to make sure their apps are getting used on as many devices as possible.
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Indeed, I am skeptical....but if GOOGLE who makes ANDROID says it will be done. I believe it.

pr0cl1v1ty said:
This is a big deal for me, if we never receive root.
Let the discussion start.
http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/
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Damn, I agree! The main reason I wanted Root (well two reasons) was for bloatware removal/freeze, and for backing up apps/app data (especially games!)....Well now with most apps doing the cloud-save thing, if Lollipop really does allow us to remove both carrier AND oem bloatware, I won't be as desperate to Root....although IF Root ever comes to our ATT Note 4, I'll still Root, just won't be as desperately needed. I'd still like to put a custom ROM on my Note4 someday, but I can wait a year or so.....after I'm out of warranty

Lets look at this like the millions upon millions of people who own a smartphone and never, ever figure out even the basics on how to use it. You know the ones, the idiots who buy the iPhone for an outrageous price, and don't even know how to use text messaging. (My mother ... I sent her a picture while on vacation of her grand children, then when I got home she handed me her phone and said "What did you do to my phone, it now has this thing on it" and I had to show her the message!) We see it all the time. People who don't even know that there is a calculator, or how to set up their email, or how to do anything other than Candy Crush on it...
The carriers can do whatever they want to those phones. Those people (and I would bet you are looking at 90% or more of smartphone owners) don't know how to uninstall an app, or don't bother to try. You could make the boatware uninstallable and the vast majority of people would still have it, and never know the difference. Up until recently the only people taking off bloatware were people like us who found a way... Root hasn't been this hard for very long, so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.

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lets look at this like the millions upon millions of people who own a smartphone and never, ever figure out even the basics on how to use it. You know the ones, the idiots who buy the iphone for an outrageous price, and don't even know how to use text messaging. (my mother ... I sent her a picture while on vacation of her grand children, then when i got home she handed me her phone and said "what did you do to my phone, it now has this thing on it" and i had to show her the message!) we see it all the time. People who don't even know that there is a calculator, or how to set up their email, or how to do anything other than candy crush on it...
The carriers can do whatever they want to those phones. Those people (and i would bet you are looking at 90% or more of smartphone owners) don't know how to uninstall an app, or don't bother to try. You could make the boatware uninstallable and the vast majority of people would still have it, and never know the difference. Up until recently the only people taking off bloatware were people like us who found a way... Root hasn't been this hard for very long, so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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did you just call your mom stupid?

raiu said:
did you just call your mom stupid?
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Yes, for 2 reasons. Buying an iPhone and having absolutely no idea why she did it. I think people who are passionate about the iPhone an want one, more than anything else are delusional, but at least most of them can articulate why they want it, and many of them use it to its very limited potential. Then there is my mom, who got an iPhone because to her, thats was really the only phone they had at the store. Its falling for the advertising.
And the second reason... she released me into the wild to be a productive member of society... anyone with half a brain would have realized that it would be a key step in the collapse of modern civilization. :silly:

boufa said:
Yes, for 2 reasons. Buying an iPhone and having absolutely no idea why she did it. I think people who are passionate about the iPhone an want one, more than anything else are delusional, but at least most of them can articulate why they want it, and many of them use it to its very limited potential. Then there is my mom, who got an iPhone because to her, thats was really the only phone they had at the store. Its falling for the advertising.
And the second reason... she released me into the wild to be a productive member of society... anyone with half a brain would have realized that it would be a key step in the collapse of modern civilization. :silly:
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lol, im glad my mom bought an s3. I am also glad they have apps that allow me to remotely log into her phone while shes on it and fix issues she has.

raiu said:
lol, im glad my mom bought an s3. I am also glad they have apps that allow me to remotely log into her phone while shes on it and fix issues she has.
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What app is this??? I have never heard of it, and it would be extremely useful for my parents.
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....so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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I am not sure if you understand that we don't care about those other 90%...we care about our 10% who is smart enough to utilize what we own.

pr0cl1v1ty said:
What app is this??? I have never heard of it, and it would be extremely useful for my parents.
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Tell them to download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market
Once that is installed they open it and leave it open, and you have to have this installed on a pc
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index....TFrZF9HZKyUVHr6jEal4CROc1rOSRpZA_txoCWgXw_wcB
its totally free if you use it for personal use. You can see their device, transfer files, change settings. Its really cool!

raiu said:
Tell them to download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market
Once that is installed they open it and leave it open, and you have to have this installed on a pc
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index....TFrZF9HZKyUVHr6jEal4CROc1rOSRpZA_txoCWgXw_wcB
its totally free if you use it for personal use. You can see their device, transfer files, change settings. Its really cool!
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OMG....awesome, thank you so much sir.

What's up with all the iPhone hate? Different strokes for different folks; no reason to bad mouth others for a difference in taste.

Well, seems the way around this is already out there. This will just continue to put these apps on like they currently do, and we still can't remove them. This will only be handy if they have their programs to be downloaded automatically from the play store.....which they probably won't, they'll keep them in the system.

LiquidHonesty said:
Well, seems the way around this is already out there. This will just continue to put these apps on like they currently do, and we still can't remove them. This will only be handy if they have their programs to be downloaded automatically from the play store.....which they probably won't, they'll keep them in the system.
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Any proof to this? Where are you getting this information from?

I hope this gives users the ability to remove these apps. Hell if Microsoft can pull it off so should Google. I have disabled over 20 apps on my AT&T Note 4 with the majority being carrier bloatware. Ridiculous.

pr0cl1v1ty said:
Any proof to this? Where are you getting this information from?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/

LiquidHonesty said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/
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This is only for phones that come with 5.0 on them. All phones upgraded from KitKat to 5.0 will not have this feature. Also these same updated phones will not have encryption as their default setting either.
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