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Lumia 900 Review Thread

Rate the phone 1-5 on-
Battery Life
Speed
Performence
Build quality
Overall
And tell pros and cons

Battery Life - 4
Speed -5
Performance - 4.5
Build quality - 6
Overall - 4.5

jallenashley: Same here. Ditto
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Battery Life 4
Speed 5
Performence 5
Build quality 4
Overall 4.5
Battery Life - I gave this a four even though the phone is perfect for my needs and it does something I couldn't get out of any android phone, battery life that is proportionate to my usage... e.g. light usage = long life vs heavy usage = short life - this operation makes sense to me yet any android phone I had seemed to start like this but shortly afterward (even after a reset and removal of "unneeded" apps) it would never be the same. So I gave it a four because it could always be better .
Speed - this is a five for me but it's all relative to the OS, much why I think it's pointless to compare hardware specs of WP to Android/iOS, this same phone with Android on it would suck.
Build Quality - Overall I'm satisfied with the build quality, there are little tiny things that are way to small to pick on especially when you factor in the price, can't be beat.
Overall - if you aren't someone to get caught up in raw numbers but instead actual functionality and it's reaction to real world usage you can't go wrong with the Lumia 900. I will say, however, that I think in order to fully appreciate what Microsoft is attempting with their OS you really need to give yourself over to their ecosystem.
I have long been riding the Google train and the only thing I didn't give up was the mail mainly because I have wayyy wayyy way to much connected to it, but I did move to Live services where I could to get the most seamless experience.
A lot of people will be unwilling to give a seamless Microsoft ecosystem experience a chance but it's a very nice, the calendar, twitter/facebook integration, unified mailbox & contacts, local scout, skydrive, office, games, music (Zune Pass ftw) and one of my favorite unhyped aspects... Podcasts!!
As an HTC&Android pair fanboy, (I'll admit it), I always loved the functionality of Sense but I hated the space it used up on my brand new hardware and I hated how it slowed down the phone after I've added my own personal app collection into the mix... with WP Microsoft has somehow managed to add in all of my favorite HTC Sense functionality and absolutely zero of the slowness.
Ok enough praise and onto my cons list...
1) I love and hate it, single volume control for the whole phone. The funniest part about this is I hated volume control on Android... too many options and half the time when listening music with headphones and I'd get a call, unplug my phones, talk and then hang up and then BOOM music on full blast through the speakphone ... not the best thing a the work environment.
2) No Pure silent mode, not vibrate only... nothing... no noise (I need this Microsoft!)
3) Calender functionality is lacking, I don't like having to resort to using live.calendar.com on my home pc to input a tricking re-occuring scheduled item on my calendar... the one on my phone should have all the pulldown options for re-occuring schedules. Although I will mention that this is the only thing I've found I have to use a home pc for.
4) No custom wallpaper (non-lockscreen), this isn't a biggie for me but would be nice to have the option, I know that black is better for AMOLED screens but that should be a choice I can make (they do allow pure white afterall).
Sorry for the long post, hope this was an entertaining/good read for some/all... I know some of this blurs the line of actual phone and the OS on the phone, but I think some of the things Nokia could've helped with.

xyexz said:
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2) No Pure silent mode, not vibrate only... nothing... no noise (I need this Microsoft!)
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If you turn off Vibrate in teh settings, the option will not be available when touch the Volume button then touch ring. Instead of Vibrate, it will say, Silent.
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Good to know, thanks!

EclipzeRemix said:
Rate the phone 1-5 on-
Battery Life
Speed
Performence
Build quality
Overall
And tell pros and cons
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Battery Life - 4/5
Speed - 4/5
Performance - 5/5
Build quality -4.5/5
Overall - 4.5/5
Good overall phone. Can tell its single core once in a while (came from a Tegra2 device), but overall very responsive, GREAT GREAT GREAT camera & screen, great OS, a few bugs here & there. Oh and the battery life was much better than my Atrix 4G.

Overall speed

Would you say that the Samsung C9 Pro is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung C9 Pro exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

+6Gigs of ram
+6 inch screen
+4000mAh battery
+18w fast charging
+Hi-fi
+Samsung pay
+Dual speakers
-snap dragon 653
-crap camera (although it has 2.1 mega pixel camera)
-no Android 7.0 now
-fast charging will enable when the screen are dimming
-not so much third-party rom support(but lineage OS)
-low cost performance
-Crap finger print sensor
The daily use performance are pretty GREAT, the 6gigs of RAM Will let you forgot to clean your recent tasks. The screen is fancy and big enough to enjoy YouTube time and the dual speakers feels great when you're using it, you can't back to only one speaker times. The earphones sound quality are great and I can't go out without my earphones.
But when I want to unlock my C9 pro, it is pretty terrible. It will take several times to unlock the phone and the recognize speed is so SLOW, maybe takes 1s, which is terrible.
(The most important thing is I don't like to play games on my phone,so I don't care about the performance of CPU)

hpe to improve camera quality

GF2981 said:
+6Gigs of ram
+6 inch screen
+4000mAh battery
+18w fast charging
+Hi-fi
+Samsung pay
+Dual speakers
-snap dragon 653
-crap camera (although it has 2.1 mega pixel camera)
-no Android 7.0 now
-fast charging will enable when the screen are dimming
-not so much third-party rom support(but lineage OS)
-low cost performance
-Crap finger print sensor
The daily use performance are pretty GREAT, the 6gigs of RAM Will let you forgot to clean your recent tasks. The screen is fancy and big enough to enjoy YouTube time and the dual speakers feels great when you're using it, you can't back to only one speaker times. The earphones sound quality are great and I can't go out without my earphones.
But when I want to unlock my C9 pro, it is pretty terrible. It will take several times to unlock the phone and the recognize speed is so SLOW, maybe takes 1s, which is terrible.
(The most important thing is I don't like to play games on my phone,so I don't care about the performance of CPU)
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-The Hi-Fi feel nothing if I use some hi-fi headphone
-I think the fingerprint sensor is pretty good ,t can read fingerprint without turn on your screen, unlike the iPhones
-The camera in day time is pretty good but at night...Ummm... It's bad
-Let me talk about the CPU performance,I always play games, the CPU performance if u play some heavy games ilke what I did (e.g. PUBG mobile, Arena of Valor) the CPU performance just like crap ,it can handle it but low FPS and lag something.But still, the CPU performs a top middle range phone performance.
Also the battery life is pretty bad while playing heavy game
Any wrong ,I'm glad to correct information

Does the Mix or mix 2 have the best battery life?

I'm looking for a new phone and I saw the Mi Mix and the Mi Mix 2, so I was wondering if the Original Mix or the Mix 2 has the best battery life and how much better is it?

The mix 2 has excellent battery life.

I had the mix 1. Though it was awesome battery life (battery was huge on that beast) the Mix 2 in comparison is fine. I was honestly a little worried since the battery was smaller. The overall user experience is so much better overall with the 2 I honestly cannot recommend the one though for just the battery life.

I'd say I average about 36 hours battery life with the Mi Mix 2. That's with about 3 hours of SOT.

i have the two devices and battery life is the same for us

kcc1982 said:
I had the mix 1. Though it was awesome battery life (battery was huge on that beast) the Mix 2 in comparison is fine. I was honestly a little worried since the battery was smaller. The overall user experience is so much better overall with the 2 I honestly cannot recommend the one though for just the battery life.
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WHy the overall experience is better?

agree!

claudioita said:
WHy the overall experience is better?
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It's a newer refined phone

Mackay53 said:
It's a newer refined phone
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Refined?
All speak of the 1 as a better looking phone

It may look better because the bezels look relatively thinner (same amount of food, different size plates comparison)
Smaller battery but also slightly smaller screen so power consumption may still be similar. And perhaps a more efficient CPU?

WHY THE ROG PHONE 2 IS THE BEST OVERALL PHONE RIGHT NOW ? LET'S TALK...

HI EVERYONE
I'M THE CREATOR OF NUMEROUS POSTS OF ROG PHONE 2 . AFTER ALMOST TWO YEARS I REALIZE THAT THIS PHONE IS THE BEST FOR MY NEEDS . I'VE TESTED MORE THAN 50 SMARtPHONES EVEN MI 10 PRO AND THEY AMAZING JBL SPEAKERS( THIS IS THE LATEST I HAD) BUT BATTERY IS NOT AS GOOD AS ROG , SPEAKERS AREN'T VERY LOUD BUT GOOD QUALITY AND BASSES.... BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS ROG WHY IS BETTER
- IT HAS VERY SOLID BUILD QUALITY. GORILLA GLASS 6 , GLASS AND METAL COMBO, 7000 SERIES ALUMINIUM( ROG PHONE 5 IS WELL COSTRUCTED BUT IT BEND MORE EASILY THAN IPHONE 6 PLUS AND IT'S UNACCETABLE FOR 899$ PHONE.
-FIRST ROG WITH 6000MAH BATTERY THAT CAN LAST UP TO 2 DAYS, EVEN 3 WITH 60 HZ AND DARK THEME!
-IT HAS 3.5MM JACK WITH EXCELLENT QUALITY AND EQ (I REALLY MISS ON ROG PHONE 3 AND MOST HIGH END SMARTPHONES)
-IT HAS PROBABLY THE LOUDEST SPEAKERS I' VE EVER HEARD WITH VERY GOOD QUALITY AND CLARITY+ OUDOOR MODE THAT BOAST TREBLE ( ROG 3 DOESN'T HAVE THIS AND ALSO QUIETER SPEAKERS WITH SIMULATED BASSES)
-IT HAS 2 STRONGER VIBEATOR MOTORS ( MOST PHONE INCLUDED ROG 3 HAS ONLY 1)
-4 WIFI ANTENNAS, 4 MICROPHONES
-FIRST 10BIT OLED HDR 120 HZ, 240HZ SAMPLING RATE DISPLAY WITH VERY GOOD DELTA ( QHD IS NOT NECESSARY UNLESS YOU USE VR, AND IT CONSUME MORE BATTERY AND LOWER THE FPS) 90HZ IS THE STANDARD BASE FOR 2020, FROM 60 YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERENCE. 120 IS RECCOMEDED , 144 IS ONLY FOR EXTREME GAMING AND DRAIN A LOT. BUT UI,SOCIAL,GAMES BEST IS 120 FOR EYES
-RGB LOGO. THIS IS COOL FOR NOTIFICATION, DURING NIGHT , IT'S A DISTINGUISHABLE SPEC THAT PEOPLE WILL NOTICE.
-18W CHARGING WILL DEGRADE BATTERY LOWER THAN FAST CHARGER LIKE 65W OR 120 AND MY TIP IS TO CHARGE UP TO 80%. THIS PHONE ALSO SUPPORT 30W. SINCE THE BATTERY IS 6000 MAH I RECCOMEND BOTH . BOTH ARE SAFE
-FIRST ROG WITH ALMOST STOCK ANDROID.ANDROID 9 IS LATEST ROM THAT SUPPORT ALSO GLTOOL ( FUTURE PROOF TOOL FOR GPU DRIVERS) AND ALSO ANDROID 9 HAS RW SISTEM. I RECCOMEND THIS ROM BECAUSE A10 IS NOT AS OPTIMIZED AS A9 AND IT' S HAS LOTS OF PERMISSION THAT MADE MODS, APPS NOT COMPATIBLE. BATTERY IS ALSO BETTER IN A9
-AIRTRIGGERS
-FAST UFS 3.0 STORAGE, LOTS OF RAM STORAGE, LAG FREE DEVICE. COSTANT PERFORMANCE
-2 PORTS. USB 3.1 AND 2.0 FOR CHARGING AND REVERSE CHARGING
-GOOD CAMERA EIS( WITH GCAM YOU WILL DO MUCH BETTER PHOTOS AND VERY STABLE 60FPS VIDEOS)
- VERY FAST 855+ PROCESSOR DON'T OVERHEAT AND BETTER TEMPS THAN LATEST 800 SERIES SOCs.
-BEST ROG EVER MADE FOR AESTETIC ( ORANGE ACCENTS ON THE BACK AND THE SPEAKERS, BACK COVER HAS METAL COLOR, MORE COLORFUL ACCENTS ON THE BACK AND MORE SQUARE CAMERAS AND FRAME, IT HAS MORE GAMING LOOK.
THE CONS THAT NOT AFFECT MY DECISION TO BUY AGAIN THIS PRODUCT:
-NO IP RATING, FOR NORMAL USE LIKE RAIN IS PROTECTED SINCE THERE IS NO DIRECT CONTACT TO MOTHERBOARD
-NO WIRELESS CHARGING, I DON'T NEED AND USE I PREFER 3.5 MM JACK THAN THIS..
-NO OIS FOR CAMERA , GCAM WILL FIX THIS WITH NIGHT MODE AND THEIR AMAZING SHOTS AND VIDEOS ( MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR A GAMING PHONE)
-NO DDR5 RAM OR LATEST SOC: 855 PLUS IS PROBABLY THE BEST SOC SINCE DOESN'T OVERHEAT A SINGLE DAY. IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAN 865 OR 888. THESE OVERHEATS AS LOT OF REVIEWS. DDR4 RAM IS VERY GOOD IF YOU HAVE 8/12 GB ON A PHONE. NO DIFFERENCE IN REAL LIFE.
-NO 8K. NO NEED SINCE PANEL IS FULL HD AND YOU NEED 8K TV FOR SEE THE VIDEO RECORDED
-NO 5G. IT'S FASTER BUT DEPEND BY COUNTRY COVERAGE. THIS WILL DRAIN MORE BATTERY AND MAKE DEVICE HOT. FOR ME IS ENOUGH 4G+ SINCE IS MORE MATURE TECNOLOGY FOR MY NEEDS
-NO SD CARD( BUY 128 OR 512/1T STORAGE NO PROBLEM)
-WEIGHT( THIS IS VERY BALANCED ON ROG 2 TAKE CONSIDERATION OF THAT)
i bought again from giztop at very good price new for 459$ 8/128 gb is a lot for me and i SUGGEST as base in 2021 64gb at least, RECCOMENDED 128GB
i will modify some my post to get best possible user experience on this phone
thank you to all members to enjoy this forum

I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles

asdor said:
I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles
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Were thinking same

Are there xda awards for the most useless posts? I nominate yours.

Considering the dying PM 8150 chip state I would dare say it's literally impossible to argue that the rog2 is the best phone.

Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away

ianseer said:
Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away
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eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post

dvijetrecine said:
eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post
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quite sure he was being sarcastic

Danishblunt said:
quite sure he was being sarcastic
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i do hope that is the case, as OP is going a bit over the top

Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...

nguadien said:
Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...
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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Obviously my impressions with "latest updates" are very bad.
Every time an Android device update (or being forced to), battery life always downgrade or shortened, because phone providers want you to feel sluggish, slowed, outdated, inconvenient with your devices. Then you would want to buy newer models after 3 years.
My friends all used Oppo and Samsung. First stock roms always have best battery life and smoothest experience. Then things went down until 2-3 years later, when every devices become all laggy, jittery, battery hungry.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Ok now I updated my experience so far for Android 11:
2201.211 rom: Cannot root, even if I installed Magisk 24.3 FIVE times - yes I tried so many times and ways to install root
2111.160 rom: Can root after installing Magisk 24.3.
- I then used Mantis Gamepad Pro to use PS5 controller. After 2 days it stopped recognizing inputs.
- Without Mantis Gamepad Pro, I can use PS5 controller but of course cannot map properly in-game
- Battery draining rate with Bluetooth is very fast (even when the only app opened is Mantis Gamepad Pro + Ebook reader), -80% battery in 3 hours
=> I'm back to 1910.35 for Android 9 - doubled battery saving, better performance, no Mantis Gamepad Pro bugs
Also, I need to update two bugs in Android 11:
+ It does not accept chargers from other brands, for me it's TWO different Samsung 18W charger (Android 9 accepted them normally).
+ It does not accept charging after being drained to 0%. I accidentally slept when reading ebook, making it drop from 50% to 0% during the night.
Next day, no matter what kind of charger (Oppo, Samsung, Asus), it flashed green charging circle for 0.5s then screen off. I had to charge using Asus charger for 1 hour to bring it to 1%, then held Power key to enter OS. Then it did NOT accept charging, I had to re-plug Asus charger again to make it recognize charging.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Android 11 has Accessibility bug that's not been fixed in any rom
Fake Camera app also cannot work on Android 11
Besides the better System UI and keyboard switching button - I cannot find a reason why Android 11 is better.
Android 9 consumes 5% per 30 min gameplay
Android 11 consumes 20% per 30min gameplay
This is a huge difference man.
However, Android 9 System UI would often stop working for 5-10s if I use older apps in 2018, which is a little annoying.

General Rate your phone!

Surprised to see there still isn't a sticky for rating this phone, so here goes.
The rating will be out of 10, with 10 being the best and 1 the worst.
Display - 9/10
Performance - 10/10
Camera - 6/10
Battery Life - 8/10
Idle Battery Drain - 5/10
Running Temperature - 9/10
Development Friendliness (Rooting/Modding) - 4/10
Running On - MIUI 12.5.5 Global
Starting with the display, it is very good but I noticed at certain angles there is a slight blue tint to the screen (only visible during low light conditions). And I have noticed quite a bit of black crush on this phone, but you get used to it.
Performance is really great. No complaints here. Be it casual browsing, youtube or heavy gaming, it has handled all of them very well.
Camera is average at best. The "painting" effect is evident especially when zooming in on faces. Not complaining though since this is really not a camera phone. It also helps that I rarely take photos.
Battery life during normal usage is good but not the best because of the limited battery size. I usually get a whole day of usage (no gaming) without a problem. Also note that I use my phone on the 120fps setting always.
Now I had to make a separate category for idle drain as I have heard many people complain of this, and have myself experienced this. Especially after the battery goes below 20% the idle drain is quite noticeable. Still I wouldn't quite call it a deal-breaker but it is a bit annoying.
On the temperature front, I have yet to have this phone get uncomfortably hot even during gaming. Mind you, it does get warm during intense gaming but never HOT. And obviously during everyday browsing/youtube it stays cool.
Development friendliness is what has really disappointed me. The rooting process alone is quite a bit more tricky thanks to newer android versions being less modification friendly. After reading post after post of people bricking their phones because of some obscure rule/requirement (either by Xiaomi or Google itself) and after my own experience of trying to root this phone, I must say this phone is one of the least dev friendly phones I have seen.
Well then, let's hear your ratings!

my phone well it's something special

for the price, everything is 10/10

mocmocmoc said:
for the price, everything is 10/10
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Except camera, for the price I would give 8/10

0/10 all

Overall, I would rate my phone Mi 11X a solid 8. Except for the camera, and fingerprint sensor(not a big fan of power button+finger print sensor) everything is good with the phone. Oh yeah that weird proximity sensor bug too.

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Thanks for sharing, this thread is for the Poco F3 though.

Display - 9/10
Performance - 10/10
Camera - 8/10 (GCam)
Battery Life - 7/10 (underclocked CPU, undervolted GPU)
Idle Battery Drain - 8/10 (SuperFreezZ + Battery Saver)
Running Temperature - 9/10
Development Friendliness (Rooting/Modding) - 7/10
Running On - HavocOS 4.13
Worst bugs: proximity sensor, power consumption with AOD.
With some tweaks the F3 is a useful, powerful and enduring phone with some restrictions. Without the tweaks it's not worth the money (imho). There was not just one moment when I regretted switching from F1.