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Desire Z/G2 vs Nexus One

Hi all, I'm thinking of changing over to the Desire Z because I blog a lot on the go, and virtual keyboards dont really cut it for me.
I'd like to hear some comparison between the two, like how fast is the UI on the Desire Z compared to the N1 or Desire. Can you guys gimme some opinions about the screeb quality and keyboard?
Thanks in advance
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I happily sold my Nexus One for the G2 (which I have a Desire Z ROM on) and couldn't be happier. IMO, the screens are about equal. I don't miss my Nexus' screen at all, and the keyboard is phenomenal.
As for speed, that's obviously going to depend on a number of variables. I run my G2 overclocked to 1.2GHz most of the time and have no complaints in terms of speed. I get 12-15h of moderate use out of the battery at this speed, so that works for me. You can currently safely overclock the G2 to 1.5GHz, though you'll see a drain in battery at those speeds. The G2 out of the box even (800MHZ) is pretty snappy, comparable to the Nexus.
In short, you won't be disappointed.

the orange bandit said:
You can currently safely overclock the G2 to 1.5GHz, though you'll see a drain in battery at those speeds.
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I'm at 1.5 Ghz on CM6.1 and I would say I get better battery life than stock (.5% drain per hour idle, average of 1.5% drain per hour with moderate use).

I know that is is probably a stupid or anmoying question, but what do you mean by moderate use?
I myself have twitter notifications every 10 minutes, plus some browsing, music playback and i often open the facebook app to update my notifications
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emmib said:
I know that is is probably a stupid or anmoying question, but what do you mean by moderate use?
I myself have twitter notifications every 10 minutes, plus some browsing, music playback and i often open the facebook app to update my notifications
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Not a stupid question at all.
Moderate use (average, per hour):
- 20 texts (incoming/outgoing)
- 10 minutes of web
- 5 minutes of phone call
- Facebook app (4 or 5 times)
- 10 minutes (or so) of games.
Man, it would seem like I'm always on my phone, but I'm not. Can't exactly play Angry Birds while sitting across the meeting table from the boss.
But in all seriousness, I went a full 48 hours and used 80%. That's with about an hour and a half total worth of PSX and SNES emulators.

I upgraded from a Nexus One (which is now my wifes phone) to the G2.
Impressions out of the box, pre-root/CM6.1:
At stock 800Mhz, i could immediately tell it was "snappier" then the Nexus One OC'd at 1.3Ghz. Meaning, scrolling from homescreen to homescreen, live wallpapers, opening of applications, running graphic intense games, etc, etc ... All felt smoother/quicker.
The BIG difference i noticed (again, out of the box) was the multi-touch/touchscreen.
Take Maps for instance, or even pinch zooming in the browser. This experience was GREATLY improved. I think this is due to the type of screen, more-so then a software or CPU speed improvement. Pinch Zooming, or two finger tilting, or two finger rotating in maps was MUCH more reactive.
Impressions out of the box, post-root/CM6.1:
Wholey cows this thing is FAST. OC'd to 1.5mhz, this thing is insanely fast. That's it in a nutshell, FAST.
Granted, i only had the thing out of the box for a grand total of about 5 minutes before i began my rooting and throwing CM on it, but still.
Hard Keyboard: For me (and I'm no blogger, i type on this thing occasionally) its no big deal. I came from a G1 to the Nexus One, and didn't miss the Hard Keyboard, and going form the Nexus One to this G2, I'm not so great full i have one either. However, there are times I'm thankful i have one, and it comes in handy, definitely. For someone like you, who probably types a lot on the phone, I would have to imagine it would make a huge difference. As far as typing on the keyboard, its not terrible. The biggest complaint for most, is the lack of room above the top row of keys and the phone hardware, leaving no room for fingers to type easily on the top row.... is GONE on this phone. The hinge design allows for PLENTY of room for the top row of keys to be easily pressed. The other big complaint about hard keyboards is the lack of a dedicated Number row, which this phone falls victim to. You can easily double-tap the ALT key to switch to the numbers, and to me its not that big of a deal, but some hard core hard-keyboard users may find this a bother.
Okay, so coming form a Nexus One, which i absolutely LOVED.... actually, ill say still love, am i happy with the G2... DEFINITELY.
If there was ONE thing i HAD to point out that i like the Nexus One more-so then the G2, it would be Weight, and Thickness. Both these things are caused by the hard keyboard, and the G2 is significantly heavier then the Nexus One. Can i get over it, definitely. But anytime i hold my wife's phone now (remember, she has the Nexus One now), I'm like wow, this thing really WAS light and thin.
Conclusion, you'll be happy with the G2.

Thanks dude! That was EXACTLY what I wanted to know!
Guys thanks a million for your help, you cleared up a great many things for me!
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Thanks, now I know exactly what people mean by it, and thanks for the info on the battery!
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Really fancy one of these watches but put off by processor.

Hi all
Really fancy buying the moto 360 but most of the reviews slate the old processor that is inside the watch, and they say because of this it's not really future proof.
Can anyone else see this watch struggle to use the new apps that come out for Android wear in say a years time?

The watches interface feels fine and snappy. Most apps I believe will really run on your smartphone and output its results to your watch. So the watch is really acting like a terminal to your phone and this is the way it should be. I know for a fact Google now voice recognition works this way on the watch.. Newer versions of Android Wear will be rolling out optimizing battery and performance, this has already made great impact on the Moto 360 since it came out.

How much processor does it need? Seems like just a bluetooth interface with a phone to me.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say if you like the design of the watch, buy it.
I think it will be more than a year before a better round smartwatch comes along.
Why? Motorola designed their ass off with this one: http://youtube.com/Nz7MjoCykNU
The processor is a trade-off, by going with the older one they simplify design and lower the price point. But it's like a computer, if your processor is fast enough so that memory is your bottleneck there is no reason to upgrade.
The only so-so thing about it was battery life, and the update basically solved that... With future updates it's only going to get better, and it's already great!

Omap ti is the same processor that was used for galaxy nexus.. Its a dual core processor and does a decent job on the 360.. Its not laggy by any means, especially after the recent update

It's more than enough processor for the current state of Android Wear. It may not support the bells and whistles of 2nd and 3rd gen watches, but should remain as usable in 1-2 years as it is today.
My hunch is that for most folks the physical abuse the watch takes will reduce it's life span more than anything. At the current price point (and what I would assume would be cheaper watches down the road) I don't see it being practical to repair/replace anything (except the band) on anything except a very new device.

EnIXmA said:
Omap ti is the same processor that was used for galaxy nexus.. Its a dual core processor and does a decent job on the 360.. Its not laggy by any means, especially after the recent update
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Cores are somewhat irrelevant. Even the "better" processor used in other watches are limited to running one core only.
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I was concerned about this too. I ordered my 360 the day they released and over the following days read reviews mentioning the weak CPU used in it. I was pretty annoyed, especially since I already owned the cheaper G Watch, which had a much better CPU in it. Over the first couple weeks of owning it, i went back and forth between "Man, the G Watch animations were noticeably smoother, better battery life... " and "How much does the CPU/animation smoothness really matter in the end?".
After the most recent update, the battery life and animation smoothness have both improved, and I rarely find myself resentfully thinking about the older CPU in my watch. It just works, and well.
In short: I wouldnt let the comparatively weak specs put you off - it is more than enough to power the current functionality of Android Wear (and I cant imagine what else they would add that you would need "future proofing" for in the smart watch, aside from the independent GPS and music playback features theyre supposedly going to be adding, which TBH i wouldnt even use or want, unnecessary battery drain). If you want a smart watch, this is the one to get.

Wait for the lg watch R. ..its coming out next week
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pakure said:
Wait for the lg watch R. ..its coming out next week
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not in the US...
The Verge said:
LG's round-faced G Watch R smartwatch was only announced back in August, but it's coming out next week — if you live in South Korea. LG yesterday confirmed the new Android Wear device will be launching in its home country on October 14th, for a price of 352,000 won, which at current exchange rates, clocks in at a tax-inclusive price of around $328. There's still no release date or price for the device in the US or Europe, but LG's cheaper G Watch was originally priced at 277,000 won in Korean and $230 in the US, meaning the G Watch R is likely to cost around $290 before taxes are added for US sales.
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http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/8/6944273/lgs-g-watch-r-is-the-most-expensive-android-wear-watch-yet

pakure said:
Wait for the lg watch R. ..its coming out next week
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That's what I thought at first but, man, that HUGE bezel.

Do you like what it does? How it looks? That should drive your decision. If you're not sure, you can wait until something better comes out. Of course there will always be something better over the horizon, but the 360 can be had today. Is that worth anything to you?
How it looks was enough to cause me to skip over the earlier watches and wait for the 360. I have not been disappointed. It is a little irritating that Moto chose not to go with the latest and greatest processor. But screen probably dominates battery life and whereas the processor would be dated for a modern phone but seems like it performs adequately in a watch.
no buyer's remorse here!

To be honest, I now appreciate what Motorola did with the 360, processor-wise.
The Snapdragon 400 chip used in other wearable devices is heavily crippled (3 out of 4 cores disabled) and also I believe that the graphics engine is heavily underclocked in order to preserve battery. And there is no way for the cores to be "unlocked" in future updates since the battery has limited capacity. So the S400 is only a name, but it has nothing to do with the S400 from the smartphones.
The problem today, that all the manufacturers have, is that there is no processor truly designed for wearable devices, which means low computing power, low graphics power, small footprint (to allow for larger battery) but with very low power requirements. I suppose these will come in 1-2 years, hopefully sooner.
What Motorola did was to choose the right processor for the right job (the latest battery-improving update shows this too), and especially for the right price. Many people think that the $250USD / 250EUR / 200GBP is more than fair price, and the continuous lack of stock also shows that this is true.
Why use a quarter of a Snapdragon 400 and unnecessarily increase the overall price (example: the LG G Watch R will be priced at 300EUR) ? Remember, there are (much) fewer than 330x290 pixels to drive, and a very simplified OS to run.

I think this whole processor discussion is much to do about nothing. I don't believe that hardly anyone, if they hadn't been able to see the processor on a spec sheet, would even complain about the processor because I don't see that it has any impact on the use of the device.

People forget that OMAP 3630 in moto 360 clocked at 1ghz runs Android 4.4 in Motorola Defy with 480x854 pixel without a hiccup today.

kevinlevrone said:
What Motorola did was to choose the right processor for the right job (the latest battery-improving update shows this too), and especially for the right price.
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Not everybody is reporting improvements, or at least not to the level of this thing actually being usable.
So far, I have been unable to get below 4% an hour consumption with light to light-moderate usage and almost no app usage on the latest update, and if the thing is used much at all, consumption is more like 8% an hour. In two of the last four days, I have been unable to get through a single day of light to light-moderate usage without running out of battery altogether, to where the watch powered off completely.
Part of the reason for that is down to Motorola's choice of processor. There is a lot more to it than just performance; the processor Motorola chose is using 8-9 year old process technology, and one core on this processor is using far more power than one core on a more modern processor. In the process, it is wasting battery life simply generating heat.
If the unneeded cores in other smartwatches are completely disabled so as not to waste power, then chances are they will use less power. And if the individual cores are faster, those cores will be active for less time to complete any given task, which will allow them to return to sleep sooner.
There's a lot more to this than simply which is newest or which is cheapest. It's far more subtle than that, and I'm not convinced Motorola has made a smart decision.

Really. What do you plan on doing with your Moto360? HD video editing or large format image processing? C'mon, man.
Much like current phones, the processing power FAR outpaces any software you're going to run on this device. CPU power on a smart watch is a total non-issue.
And for the record, since the last update I take my watch off of the dock at 0730 daily. When it hits the dock again at 2300 I never see less than 30% remaining.

Dusty Rhodes said:
Really. What do you plan on doing with your Moto360? HD video editing or large format image processing? C'mon, man.
Much like current phones, the processing power FAR outpaces any software you're going to run on this device. CPU power on a smart watch is a total non-issue.
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As I just said, it has nothing to do with CPU power. A CPU made on a smaller process will waste less power as heat. A CPU that is faster will be in operation for less time, so may actually use less power on a given process size.
And for the record, since the last update I take my watch off of the dock at 0730 daily. When it hits the dock again at 2300 I never see less than 30% remaining.
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You're lucky. I'd love for that to be the case. Right now, I'm tending to think that there are either batches of watches out there with fundamental problems, or some people just use their smartwatches exceptionally little.

I am a huge Motorola fan but no matter what anyone says the processor in the 360 does limit it. It is fast enough to do the job but when it is really working it eats up the battery at an insane rate, and you can really feel the heat it generates. I think the Moto 360 is great for basic notifications and as a fun watch you can change faces on daily but it will never excel at running apps as it is just too power hungry. I suspect Android Wear itself also isn't as optimized as it could be.
I have no problems with battery life using it for notifications through out the day. I generally have 30 to 40% left at the end of the day(8:30am to 1 am) while using Facer for my watch faces. If I was to start swapping faces for a bit though the battery will take a major hit. And in an ideal world I would have preferred to have the display always on.

I'm currently in the midst of an experiment with my watch. I have:
* The latest firmware
* Used it for a full week already, so battery life should be fine as the battery has been through a bunch of charge cycles
* No apps of any kind that interact with Wear installed
* Watch completely reset after apps were uninstalled
* Watch charged overnight after being reset (showed 99% when taken off the charger)
* No custom watch face (I'm on the default)
* Developer mode not enabled
* Notifications from Tapatalk muted as I get a lot of those
* Only received two notifications today, and set one alarm
* Checked the time twice
* Checked battery level twice
* Been sitting still working at my desk all morning
* Only had the watch further than three feet from my phone (which supports Bluetooth Low Energy) one time, for perhaps 60 seconds
* Screen set to the dimmest level (level 1)
* All other settings at default except Ambient mode enabled
After 3.25 hours, my battery has already fallen by 24%. That's 7.4% an hour, or enough for a 13 hour, 32.5 minute battery life when almost completely unused.
There is literally nothing I can do to improve battery life at this point other than to disable ambient mode, take the watch off my wrist, put it on my desk, and not use it at all.
I am floored by how spectacularly bad the battery life can be on this thing, and how much it varies. When idle, my watch apparently uses four times more power than other people are reporting with active usage and all sorts of apps installed.

I'm considering returning my s5 for the G3

I have a few questions about this phone. So far the s5 has been impressive as far as camera, battery life, speed, etc. The one problem? Its got a locked bootloader and there is no sign of it being unlocked any time soon.
The G3 has unlock method and several ROMS and development which is important to me(previous phone was s3 with plenty of ROMS).
So, does the g3 have good battery life and features similar to the s5?

Not much development,ok battery life with normal usage.Features wise doesn't have gestures,heart rate sensor,have multi windows,quick case circle,knock code.Probably best for you will be nexus 6
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Hopes this helps
I have had the S5, HTC One M8 and Now the G3, in my opinion it is a better phone that the two mentioned before, battery life is solid and improved through moding, good camera, I would definitely choose this one, but I would take the 3 GB variant because the additional ram goes a long way. Everything works well the way it should be no gimmicks like the S5 and a much louder speaker than the M8.

Ive used many flagships over the last year (s5, note 3, htc m8, xperia z1, lg g2,); The G3 is my favorite phone so far. Minor issues are the dim backlight, mediocre battery, oversharpening. But overall, best phone.
If I could have any phone now however, Id choose the Note 4.

I had the S5 for a few months. What surprised me was that I was not impressed with it at all. It is not a terrible phone. It was okay. My issues...For one, despite the claims, I found the battery life and overall experience with the G2 to be MUCH better. The G2 was much smoother. So I was disappointed with the GS5 coming from the G2.
I was intrigued by the G3, but was worried about that display and 801 processor, dimmer display, battery life etc. However, I couldn't stomach the GS5 anymore and I took the plunge and after rooting the G3, I find the battery life to be better than the GS5 . The G3 is better for making phone calls (better audio quality), and has better speakers. There are some lags. But I think those aren't so bad in general and can be improved with a different launcher or Rom (if you are into that). The camera is about the same (the GS5 takes better daylight photos). I have't really played with the modded cameras available for the G3, so I cannot comment on that.
Definitely I would go for the G3. For me, the G3 has been a better experience.

I have both phones SG5 and G3. Love G3, everything stock and still better for customising than GS5. If only battery life could be better on G3.
I heavily use SG5 and battery will last all day on G3 it goes to 50 % within 6 hrs.
Can't decide too which to keep.

My wife got the S5 about a week ago, and I'd been on the fence for a while, most because I'd been spooked by all the posts & threads about G3 glitches. I got my G3 today, and I gotta tell ya, I don't see ANY of the glitches I've been reading about. No overheating, no force closes, no over-sharpening... nothing. It's only been a day, but I've been pushing this thing all day.
I am going to have to spend some time working on the battery life, because it does go through it fast. But, I'm rooted on Barrin, so I'm hoping I have some options to disable some of the hogs. I typically go from home to my car to work and back where I always have a power source, but there will be times when I'm not. That will be rough, unless I find effective adjustments.

I went from the S4 to the G3. Not quite the same as you, but similar.
Here's what I've found in the 4 months of using the G3.
My list of cons looks a little big, But they are small things in comparison to the Pros, I just wanted to share my experience.
I'm currently a proud owner of the G3 and despite running everything stock due to lack of development for my model (D852), The G3 at stock is still better than most other heavily modified phones.
G3 Pros:
~ Best form factor in any phone bar none, The screen size is perfect for the size of the phones body, Very compact for a 5.5" screen and 1 handed use has never been an issue for me on this phone. (My hands are about medium size) (This is my main reason for keeping this phone.)
~ The bezels on this phone are the smallest nicesest looking bezels on any phone out there. (Without these super skinny bezels we wouldn't be able to get this small form factor with this huge of a screen, Looking really good is just a bonus hahaha.)
~ This phone is probly the nicest looking phone on the market, looking at it from the front with the screen off. (with the exception of the grey bottom bezel, The grey bezel kinda wrecks it's super sleek sexy look. But it still looks really good)
~ Super sexy UI, Especially the notification menu on this phone is THE NICEST looking of any android device in my opinion. (Which is kinda funny considering the G2 had the UGLIEST notification menu out of any android device I've ever seen.)
~ 1440x2560p resolution. <--- This is the first resolution that I've ever seen where I feel it's a retina display (Everyones eyes are different), To my eyes this resolution is a REAL retina display, Meaning my eyes can't see pixels anymore, After owning a 1440p phone i can totally notice 1080p isn't even retina Although some would disagree. Let's not even talk about what steve jobs thought was a retina display hahaha, Your eyes would melt out of your head seeing those resolutions now days. Although I could see how an iphone can be a retina display... at 5 feet away...
~ You can install custom roms & kernels via bump method.
~ Extremely good standby battery life on my Canadian model (D852). (5h20m per 1% battery drain, From what I've seen most US models seem to only get 1-3 hours per 1% depending on the circumstances, But as you can see it can be a lot higher depending on the circumstances.)
~ My first battery cycle on my G3 was an impressive 13.5 DAYS with just under 3 hours SOT on LTE 100% of the time. (100% of the SOT was texting)
~ Screen on time is really good, At stock on my G3 I get a slightly less SOT than my S4 that was heavily modified towards power savings
(Using auto brightness with slider at 0 & optimized options on stock I average around 11.5h screen on time (most of my SOT is texting) over the course of 3-4 days on most cycles on my G3, If I don't do any webbrowsing.) (The webbrowser on this phone DESTROYS my battery life)
~ I left my screen on for a full cycle without touching it just to see what kind of screen time the device is capable of and it went for 15h35m screen on time, autobrightness was on with slider at 0. I also tried the same test with the only custom kernel that exists for my model (D852) and my battery life only did 10 hours unused vs the (11.5h avg) I get WITH usage on the stock kernel. Lack of kernel support on the D852 does make me consider trying another phone.
(It also might be fair to say that most other users average 3-5h SOT, which I don't even know how is possible to get so little unless you were playing a game the whole time with max brightness, but it's reality for some. But just know you can EASILY exceed 3-5h SOT)
G3 Cons:
~ If I turn my brightness above 50-60% I can start to see little squares on the screen, I usually run really low brightness and just noticed this a couple days ago. (I will likely RMA because of this.)
~ The glass on this phone is prone to coming slightly lose from the screen around the edges, Just enough to make the glass stick up higher than the actual bezel itself, Just like the S4's screen. (This of all things pisses me off more than anything) (I exchanged my first G3 back to the carrier for a new G3 because I had this issue & my phone was really hot, The second device was solid until I noticed the little squares on my screen as mentioned above.)
~ Can't fully disable touchboost. (This phone is clocked at 1.5ghz on 2 cores when your finger is touching the screen because of touchboost, So just to swipe your screen consumes ALOT of power and causes lags due to cpu ramping up on the stock cpu governor) (Even with a custom kernel I was only able to disable touchboost on 3 of 4 cores on my D852, So even when I'm texting on my phone my cpu has to hit 1.5ghz on 1 core to press a letter on my keyboard which is BS, And if on stock kernel it ramps up 2 cores to 1.5ghz just to type a letter) (touchboost is one of the biggest causes for keyboard lag & battery drain when the screen is on.)
~ Signal reception is not near as good as my S4, My S4 was always full bars, This phone is lucky to have half my bars. (Calls are nice and clear without any background noise, Probly the best I've ever heard on any cellphone so far but the data connection is a little flakey)
~ The top bezel is very uncomfortable on my ear when making a phone call. (I always find myself using speaker phone a lot because of this) (Despite the S4 having the same bezel design, The S4 didn't hurt my ear)
~ I have a buzzing sound in my left headphone IF there is no audio playing AND the cpu is under load.
~ This phone isn't as responsive as my S4 was. (One of the reasons for this is the combination of the stock cpu governor + touchboost, The stock cpu governor doesn't ramp fast enough for the touchboost causing a noticeable delay everytime you touch your finger to the screen while using the stock cpu governor, Especially noticeable when scrolling web pages on the web browser.)
~ Web browsing is alot slower than my S4 was, Sometimes I even get "Connection timed out" while trying to load web pages on WiFi, LTE, HSPA+, HSPA. All networks appear to be affected. (Using stock browser, Haven't tried other browsers yet)
~ The webbrowsing on the stock browser drains battery REALLY fast. (But it's the only 2k browser, Atleast it was the last time I checked) (I believe LG's sandbox security is to blame for the stock webbrowsers bad battery life/bad performance)
~ Very little development on lots of models, It seems unless you get a D855 you probly won't get much development. As of right now for my Canadian D852 there is only 1 custom rom and only 1 custom kernel in existence for my model. (Both of which are the same or worse in battery life than stock)
~ If your really into battery savings and are stuck with a crappy model like my D852 model the only custom kernel for my model is the Rin kernel and that makes my phone die FASTER than stock kernel even when it's completely tweaked for max battery life. Completely tweaked Rin kernel gives me same battery life as stock kernel but with TONS of stutters & lags (Stock rom + stock kernel gives me the best battery life & performance on my D852)
~ Phone is hot out of the box without disabling a bunch of things.
~ Color is washed out. (Especially the color red, Red looks like orange that is trying to be red, like it's almost red, but still orangeish.)
~ Color is REALLY washed out at high brightness. (At really high brightness black isn't even black, it's grey)
~ (I don't know if you would call this last one a con, But it sure is disappointing none the less) All the space on the inside of the phone to the left and right of the battery is hollow plastic that coulda been used for a much larger battery, But because this phone was made in korea it was designed this way to accommodate the TV antenna on the Korean version, In the non Korean version it's just air filling this same space.

Excellent
I go for all the latest phones. Have had the s4 m7/8 z2. This is my first lg and am very impressed by it. Easy to use, excellent display. Really cant fault it. Get good battery life and am constantly using it. At the end of the day choice is yours but i dont think you'll be disappointed.

[Q] Battery Sound & Camera Quality

All the Members, and XDA members,
I am new on this forum.
I am willing to buy Canvas A1.
Canvas A1 users please tell me how is this phone?
How is the sound quality, batery performed & camera quality?
Thx in advance.

kunalwap said:
All the Members, and XDA members,
I am new on this forum.
I am willing to buy Canvas A1.
Canvas A1 users please tell me how is this phone?
How is the sound quality, batery performed & camera quality?
Thx in advance.
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I have been using this device for almost more than a month now, and I am very much satisfied.
The phone performs smooth, with almost no lag at all. Runs on completely stock android and will get guaranteed updates from Google for 2 years. Like we are supposed to get the Lollipop starting by mid-December. But yes, Google is not so energetic with Android One, so don't expect the device to be all sparkling at the top of the devices charts with other nexus and flagships in any news. We had to wait for a lot of time just to get a news of Lollipop for our device. But nevertheless we will get it for sure so no worry there.
Sound quality on loudspeakers is just fine, not great but still satisfactory, on the other hand, sound quality in headphones is pretty good. In-call volume and clarity could have been better, it's a tad bit on the lower side, however, it doesn't bother much.
Camera is strictly "Satisfactory". You can click decent pictures with the rear camera during daytime, however, during night just don't depend on it for any important events. Front camera is okayish too. Does the work, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Battery is a mixed bag. For me it's perfectly fine. I use my device in 2 ways, when I am out (completely on 2G/3G the whole day) and when I am at home (completely on WiFi).
I get an average of 18 hours or so in the first case, with mild-medium usage, i.e continuous shuffling between 2G/3G, 10-15 mins of browsing, half n hour of songs, half n hour of calls, about an hour of whatsapp, 10-15 mins of gaming. Definitely lasts me from morning to evening till I get home.
In the second case, I easily get over a day of battery life (and yes, by day I mean 24 hours) with almost the same usage (perhaps a bit more that the former, with more chatting on whatsapp) as above except for that its connected to WiFi all the time. The longest I was able to run it till date was about for 51 hours I guess on WiFi with minimal use.
Ultimately it all depends on user to user for battery life, some people find it too less, some find it just sufficient, I personally fall somewhere in between those 2 categories. Battery capacity should have been a bit more, I would have used a few extra mins in gaming.
So to get it straight, if you are going to using it for heavy use, like gaming and continuous 3G then you are going to be terribly disappointed with the battery life.
Another thing is that please remember that price point at which we are viewing this, at this price point you can't really complain.

Xadus said:
I have been using this device for almost more than a month now, and I am very much satisfied.
The phone performs smooth, with almost no lag at all. Runs on completely stock android and will get guaranteed updates from Google for 2 years. Like we are supposed to get the Lollipop starting by mid-December. But yes, Google is not so energetic with Android One, so don't expect the device to be all sparkling at the top of the devices charts with other nexus and flagships in any news. We had to wait for a lot of time just to get a news of Lollipop for our device. But nevertheless we will get it for sure so no worry there.
Sound quality on loudspeakers is just fine, not great but still satisfactory, on the other hand, sound quality in headphones is pretty good. In-call volume and clarity could have been better, it's a tad bit on the lower side, however, it doesn't bother much.
Camera is strictly "Satisfactory". You can click decent pictures with the rear camera during daytime, however, during night just don't depend on it for any important events. Front camera is okayish too. Does the work, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Battery is a mixed bag. For me it's perfectly fine. I use my device in 2 ways, when I am out (completely on 2G/3G the whole day) and when I am at home (completely on WiFi).
I get an average of 18 hours or so in the first case, with mild-medium usage, i.e continuous shuffling between 2G/3G, 10-15 mins of browsing, half n hour of songs, half n hour of calls, about an hour of whatsapp, 10-15 mins of gaming. Definitely lasts me from morning to evening till I get home.
In the second case, I easily get over a day of battery life (and yes, by day I mean 24 hours) with almost the same usage (perhaps a bit more that the former, with more chatting on whatsapp) as above except for that its connected to WiFi all the time. The longest I was able to run it till date was about for 51 hours I guess on WiFi with minimal use.
Ultimately it all depends on user to user for battery life, some people find it too less, some find it just sufficient, I personally fall somewhere in between those 2 categories. Battery capacity should have been a bit more, I would have used a few extra mins in gaming.
So to get it straight, if you are going to using it for heavy use, like gaming and continuous 3G then you are going to be terribly disappointed with the battery life.
Another thing is that please remember that price point at which we are viewing this, at this price point you can't really complain.
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What are your favourite key features?

When looking for a new phone or a new ROM, there are a couple of things that I consider the most important things. I am really interested in hearing about what you consider the key features.
Some of the basic features is:
- The phone should not randomly crash
- It should be compatible with all the apps that I use. For me that will be news apps, browsers, facebook, whatsapp, skype, a few simple games and a number of streaming apps.
- The graphics should be OK, but I am really happy, if I get HD in a decent quality on a phone. Playing video should be nice and smooth.
- Sound should be good using decent head phones. I play different kind of music.
So what are the key features that really make a phone stand out for me:
1) Battery life is really important. If a phone should only be charge once a week like my good old Nokia, it would be great. But for smartphones, the realistic goal must be no more than once a day.
2) A decent camera. For really good pictures, I use an SLR camera, but for the here and now pictures, the phone should be able to handle it.
So far I have not been happy with the battery life on my E975, but I have been using the AOSP_r18 Pure from DevSwift1 for a while, and this is by far the most battery friendly rom I have tried on E975.
The camera on my E975 is OK in outdoors conditions, but pretty bad in indoor conditions.
So back to my question, what are the most important features for you and why?