Hey Guys, I have One X almost month and I was the one who was glad to have device without any issues. Everything was great but now my screen starts to flicker. So I want to ask WTF is it possible to start to have issues when it was OK and not faulty device?
I know it's tedious to have to plod through long threads but this has been asked and answered about a dozen times. The flickering is random. So devices that weren't flickering can start days or weeks later. HTC said on May 2 they identified the issue so I'd imagine we're getting closer to an update that'll correct it.
So it is software issue?
I really believe its in every HOX device.
enyaj said:
I really believe its in every HOX device.
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after reading dozens of topics I agree, that + htc statement that it is a software problem and it will be fixed via OTA kept me from replacing it with a new one because there is a very big chance it will flicker as well
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I really believe its in every HOX device.
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It's not. Mine's never flickered. The Asus Prime which is also Teg3 had the same problems at launch. It's illogical that devices using identical h/w and s/w that were built at the same time should perform differently but they do. Some Prime's had graphics issues and some didn't; just like the One X. The general consensus is that it has to do with variations in the Teg3 chip with some of them being at the low or high end of tolerances. When the s/w receives a response outside the range it's expecting it borks. It also explains why this might not have come up in testing if all of the early chips supplied to HTC by Nvidia were carefully screened and had very tight tolerances. Not defending HTC, but this is an Nvidia issue. The XL has none of these issues and uses a different CPU/GPU. Since Nvidia’s code and drivers are proprietary they’re also the ones that have to come up with the fix. Asus rushed out updates but they actually made things worse. Hopefully the delay is HTC being more methodical and trying to get it right the first time.
the flickering is not as random as you guys think, its happening at high temperature for devices that are flicker free out of box (45 degree and over)
clearly has to do with the health of the chip you are getting (chips differ in thermal room ahead based on yields) and clearly has to do with the backlight power management thing in Tegra3 (PRISM)
BarryH_GEG said:
It's not. Mine's never flickered. The Asus Prime which is also Teg3 had the same problems at launch. It's illogical that devices using identical h/w and s/w that were built at the same time should perform differently but they do. Some Prime's had graphics issues and some didn't; just like the One X. The general consensus is that it has to do with variations in the Teg3 chip with some of them being at the low or high end of tolerances. When the s/w receives a response outside the range it's expecting it borks. It also explains why this might not have come up in testing if all of the early chips supplied to HTC by Nvidia were carefully screened and had very tight tolerances. Not defending HTC, but this is an Nvidia issue. The XL has none of these issues and uses a different CPU/GPU. Since Nvidia’s code and drivers are proprietary they’re also the ones that have to come up with the fix. Asus rushed out updates but they actually made things worse. Hopefully the delay is HTC being more methodical and trying to get it right the first time.
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First read my topic again. Your device never flickered have absolutely no value because it doesn't mean that it wont flicker tomorrow or week later..
Another one of these threads? Sigh. :banghead:
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Castellano2 said:
First read my topic again. Your device never flickered have absolutely no value because it doesn't mean that it wont flicker tomorrow or week later..
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Read my response. By telling you it could happen at any time doesn't mean I'm in any way excluded. Because it's random anyone could be affected at any time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597448
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AnTuTu results, especially 2D graphics, are coming back with huge and consistent (multiple tests) variances between devices. 3D is off but not as widely. Since the phones being tested were all built within weeks of each other and running the same (stock) s/w, what could be causing such deviations in performance? 2D graphics scores swing from 147 to 286 which is almost a 50% variance. Hardware? Drivers? And could there be any correlation between this and the display flickering and other graphics issues?
And if we can limit the arm chair quarterbacking from those that aren't deep in to the code that would be great. There's enough layperson speculation in the general section.
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I made similar experiences in different networks, especially with the stock rom. When i´m in wifi the results differ from them in bad network. If i have played a game before it shows other results, as when my One X didn´t use the graphic drivers...Try it. At this time - with ARHD Rom - i have most around 11500 and 11900 in AnTuTu, only one time 10600.
Benchmarks are more a game than really good guides... if your phone runs smooth, don´t worry about the results.
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BarryH_GEG said:
AnTuTu results, especially 2D graphics, are coming back with huge and consistent (multiple tests) variances between devices. 3D is off but not as widely. Since the phones being tested were all built within weeks of each other and running the same (stock) s/w, what could be causing such deviations in performance? 2D graphics scores swing from 147 to 286 which is almost a 50% variance. Hardware? Drivers? And could there be any correlation between this and the display flickering and other graphics issues?
And if we can limit the arm chair quarterbacking from those that aren't deep in to the code that would be great. There's enough layperson speculation in the general section.
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Pretty sure this has to do with the crappy gfx drivers. The same thing that cause the camera to have issues and the notification bar. While I had the international one x, the phone benched really well while those problems weren't happening, but as soon as I was able to reproduce them and ran the tests again, score was reduced by a lot.
I could reboot the phone and the problems would go away, only to come back after some use.
designgears said:
Pretty sure this has to do with the crappy gfx drivers. The same thing that cause the camera to have issues and the notification bar. While I had the international one x, the phone benched really well while those problems weren't happening, but as soon as I was able to reproduce them and ran the tests again, score was reduced by a lot.
I could reboot the phone and the problems would go away, only to come back after some use.
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Hey designgears, everyone with a low result gets a normal result just like you referenced after rebooting. So it seems the graphics crap is drivers. There's rumors of an end-of-month update to fix them and HTC's supposedly issuing a statement in the UK shortly. I hope they nail Nvidia, this is the second device to have Teg3 related issues at launch.
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Hey designgears, everyone with a low result gets a normal result just like you referenced after rebooting. So it seems the graphics crap is drivers. There's rumors of an end-of-month update to fix them and HTC's supposedly issuing a statement in the UK shortly. I hope they nail Nvidia, this is the second device to have Teg3 related issues at launch.
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ya, last time I buy a Tegra product... lol
Hey everyone, I already used the search funtion, however I wasnt able to find a thread matching my problem.
I've got my 3rd HOX now, the first 2 were HT23.. - phones, both had that screen-flickering-problem. My 3rd one, a HT24 - version, doesn't have that problem at all, however there is some serious light bleeding on the bottom, you can see the the backlight - LEDs.. I've got some Photos for you:
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As you can see, this is just quite annoying..
Does anyone of you has the same problem, is this normal, or should I get a replacement?
Thanks in advantage
EDIT: It may not look that annoying in the pictures, however, in reality, you can see these spots very, very well..
Does noone have this problem too?
Mine has none of that problem, mine is an ht23 as well, been faultless.
i would ask for a replacement.
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Mine has none of that problem, mine is an ht23 as well, been faultless.
i would ask for a replacement.
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Thanks for your response, yeah, I think i'll get a replacement again... :/
My friend has had this issue. Get it replaced mate. I have a weird issue with a small yellow smear on the screen that seems to be fading. Phone is perfect apart from this. You can only see it if you are on a white screen. Its weird.
Game-Modo said:
My friend has had this issue. Get it replaced mate. I have a weird issue with a small yellow smear on the screen that seems to be fading. Phone is perfect apart from this. You can only see it if you are on a white screen. Its weird.
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Thanks, I will do this, however, this is will be my 3rd replacement now.. its getting annoying :/
fekle said:
Thanks, I will do this, however, this is will be my 3rd replacement now.. its getting annoying :/
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Get this for bad, before my One X I replaced 3 Sony Xperia S phones and in the end they gave me a HTC One X that has a gsensor failure. This new one seems ok apart from the small yellow smear that seems to be fading. So I am happy now.
Smart phones really need better testing before release to be honest.
Game-Modo said:
Get this for bad, before my One X I replaced 3 Sony Xperia S phones and in the end they gave me a HTC One X that has a gsensor failure. This new one seems ok apart from the small yellow smear that seems to be fading. So I am happy now.
Smart phones really need better testing before release to be honest.
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You're so right!
So I'll replace mine, however, I'm going to do it with some more intelligent timing.
I got my 3rd Unit from Amazon on April 27th. Due to Amazon's 30-Day replacement-rule, I can ask for a replacement till May 27th.
So if I get my replacement on May 25th or somewhat, chances of getting a May-Device, which should be "perfect" after 2 months of production with mistakes, are good..
I think you are making a very wise decision there, also with luck you may even have a newer firmware on it too.
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I think you are making a very wise decision there, also with luck you may even have a newer firmware on it too.
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yeah and maybe S-OFF is achieved 'till then, so I don't have to use HTC-DEV-unlock for my (hopefully) long-time device
fekle said:
yeah and maybe S-OFF is achieved 'till then, so I don't have to use HTC-DEV-unlock for my (hopefully) long-time device
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That is what i am waiting for, not keen on doing it through the HTC site.
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That is what i am waiting for, not keen on doing it through the HTC site.
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Yeah, me too, however I did it due to the 3-Buttons which annoy the f*ck out of me
I have this on my phone too Did you replacement come back perfect?
I just got this thing yesterday from eBay, refurbished from Asus for $209 (32gb) and one of the first things I noticed was a small protrusion from above the microphone jack. Here's my dilemma, I'm really into my electronics looking perfect although I know over time they will have little problems. But is this something to worry about or me just being anal?
I have the opportunity to get it exchanged but it would take a several days and besides being anal I'm not patient.
Thanks in advance.
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Well, it's definitely not something that's supposed to be there - I just checked my tablet and it doesn't have that slight lump. The only thing it might possible interfere with would be headphones, and even then there's a really slim chance. Pop in some headphones and see if they work - if they do, there should be no other problems.
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Well, it's definitely not something that's supposed to be there - I just checked my tablet and it doesn't have that slight lump. The only thing it might possible interfere with would be headphones, and even then there's a really slim chance. Pop in some headphones and see if they work - if they do, there should be no other problems.
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I just tested out the headphone jack and it works just fine. So basically it's just an aesthetic issue at this point.
Is it worth going through an exchange for though? Part of me feels as if it has this problem there is a chance it might have others.
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I just tested out the headphone jack and it works just fine. So basically it's just an aesthetic issue at this point.
Is it worth going through an exchange for though? Part of me feels as if it has this problem there is a chance it might have others.
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For another device I would tell you to get a new one.
But for this tablet...
If you can't find any other issue (dead pixels, random reboot, touchscreen issues grounded or not, etc) you should keep it. The next one could be OK aesthetically but have other problems.
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Matrix_19 said:
For another device I would tell you to get a new one.
But for this tablet...
If you can't find any other issue (dead pixels, random reboot, touchscreen issues grounded or not, etc) you should keep it. The next one could be OK aesthetically but have other problems.
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Thanks man, that's a really good way to look at it. I just need to give it a nickname like "bumpy" and get over my aesthetic analness.
Is there a good way to test if he multi-touch is buggy?
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Is there a good way to test if he multi-touch is buggy?
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"Yet Another MultiTouch Test" from the play store is a good way to test multi-touch.
If the tablet is in a perfect electrical shape, I would simply keep it. Check the display for dead or stuck pixels, dirt or light bleeding ( though I don´t have anything against it ) and multitouch issues. If the device is usable, I would rather keep it and don´t bother about this dent. The guy who has opened the device before seems to have two left hands though...
its evident that it may have been opened (not sure for what). but as mentioned above, if all works great, no issues at all, just use and enjoy it. other units have issues, and risky to get those to replace a perfectly good one (aside from that bump).
I'm writing this as my unofficial first post here at XDA, as a current M9 user who's faced a popular issue with this device, plus a new, hopefully worthless issue aswell.
I've had an M7 for roughly two years. Used to think it was the best smartphone I've ever held. I found it incredibly good looking and the performance was(is) amazing. Never had a problem I couldn't solve by reading threads here at XDA about issues, typically software related, that other people shared. The only hardware issue that really bugged me was the pink tint in the camera, and even that got fixed in the end.
Following this, I'm really upset that I've now sent my 4 months old M9 for repair, again, in less than a month.
First, I had the vibration issue many other users faced. With a turnaround window of about 3 weeks, I got the same device back, with vibration properly working. This was about a week ago.
Yesterday, I had to take it back to the carrier store(Vodafone Portugal) because the power button ceased function. I have no idea how that happens and I hope it's something minimal, because truly, I don't understand how a premium phone like this ends up with such bogus issues.
Here's to hoping the turnaround window is smaller this time, seeing as the problem seems tiny this time around.
Hi there!
If you are in Portugal I recommend heading to tecmagnet.com. They have this section specifically for repair services (only electronic devices) and there are some there who repair a lot of HTC's phones
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I'm writing this as my unofficial first post here at XDA, as a current M9 user who's faced a popular issue with this device, plus a new, hopefully worthless issue aswell.
I've had an M7 for roughly two years. Used to think it was the best smartphone I've ever held. I found it incredibly good looking and the performance was(is) amazing. Never had a problem I couldn't solve by reading threads here at XDA about issues, typically software related, that other people shared. The only hardware issue that really bugged me was the pink tint in the camera, and even that got fixed in the end.
Following this, I'm really upset that I've now sent my 4 months old M9 for repair, again, in less than a month.
First, I had the vibration issue many other users faced. With a turnaround window of about 3 weeks, I got the same device back, with vibration properly working. This was about a week ago.
Yesterday, I had to take it back to the carrier store(Vodafone Portugal) because the power button ceased function. I have no idea how that happens and I hope it's something minimal, because truly, I don't understand how a premium phone like this ends up with such bogus issues.
Here's to hoping the turnaround window is smaller this time, seeing as the problem seems tiny this time around.
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You will need to purchase a new part for your HTC
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You can purchase it at diymobilerepair search for the "HTC One M9 Power/Volume Buttons Cable and microSD Card Slot"
good luck
Just popped up on Google feed there for me, this is what iv been wanting a full pixel eco system, having G assist on a watch would be like perfect!
What's your thoughts and expectations on this?
If there's another thread for this my bad
Since they dropped almost every new device because of the chip shortage, I wouldn't get my hopes too high. I remember 9to5 making a lot of news about the Pixel Fold, only to have other Tech sites 3 weeks later claim that it's a dead product for now.
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Since they dropped almost every new device because of the chip shortage, I wouldn't get my hopes too high. I remember 9to5 making a lot of news about the Pixel Fold, only to have other Tech sites 3 weeks later claim that it's a dead product for now.
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I think they might go for it considering the amount of pixels they are selling atm it only makes sense for them to now have an eco system for it, they already have there own operating system for it wearos, so I hope they do
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Knowing Google, it'll come out just after my credit for buying the p6p expires
Would be nice, but Don't hold your breath
Google collaborated with Samsung on the Galaxy 4 Wear os watch series...
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Just popped up on Google feed there for me, this is what iv been wanting a full pixel eco system, having G assist on a watch would be like perfect!
What's your thoughts and expectations on this?
If there's another thread for this my bad
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1) I run google free. The presence of the "assistant" was the part of the google spyware system that finally convinced me that it was time to get rid of it all. You should be very cautious about allowing anyone to spy on you. Read some George Orwell -- what they are ACTUALLY doing now was at that time seen as an unbelievable overstep.
2) I stopped wearing watches when I got my first cell phone. Why do I need to carry two things that do the same thing? The phone is a lot more convenient since it has a much bigger screen.
The whole idea of a "smart watch" is a gimmick. Don't fall into it.
Google might get into the smart watch game to compete with Apple and Samsung. I mean, it is logical. It is a good move to get into that market. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple starts making electric cars.
Oh good...another half baked device.
As long as I can sideload the Google Assistant to my Galaxy Watch 4 Classic I'd be happy
Maybe find an app that can rebind my HW Keys to replace Bixby too
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I wouldn't be surprised if Apple starts making electric cars.
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That would be very frightening. They are not good at things that are complicated. If it happens, I'll be trying to come up with some means of detecting them (i.e. 360 degree visual) and alerting me when one is getting close so I can keep well clear of it.
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That would be very frightening. They are not good at things that are complicated. If it happens, I'll be trying to come up with some means of detecting them (i.e. 360 degree visual) and alerting me when one is getting close so I can keep well clear of it.
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True. But it has been reported that at least 5,000 employees are currently working on the project code name Titan, as of 2018. Willing to take the risk to overtake Tesla
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True. But it has been reported that at least 5,000 employees are currently working on the project code name Titan, as of 2018. Willing to take the risk to overtake Tesla
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I wish people could figure out that electric cars are not as "environmentally responsible" as they're made out to be. The reason Musk makes them comes down exclusively to the fact that you can't run an internal combustion engine on Mars. Tesla is a hell of an R&D lab for that.