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Engadget will have a live demo of a WP7S device on Feb 27th!

Hey guys, this is just in..
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/23/the-engadget-show-returns-this-saturday-feb-27th-now-with-l/
They will be streaming the action live on stage.

Dump the ROM please

Anyone know what time in UK?
Hope they will go through more deeply in the UI, settings, configurations ...

5 pm New York would be 10 pm in the UK, I think.

thats in 2 days!
cant wait

I wouldn't hold my breath, that's going to be more of the same stuff. The OS isn't ready, has no dialer and other important parts; they won't be able to clarify whether third-party apps will be able to work in background as there are no third-party apps for WP7. If they see lags in the interface that won't mean anything. If they don't it won't mean anything either.

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I wouldn't hold my breath, that's going to be more of the same stuff. The OS isn't ready, has no dialer and other important parts; they won't be able to clarify whether third-party apps will be able to work in background as there are no third-party apps for WP7. If they see lags in the interface that won't mean anything. If they don't it won't mean anything either.
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There is a dialer. Just not done.
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And who's to say that the build shown at MWC wasn't an old build? They kept insisting that it was an "early" build. Most people probably just assumed that "early" was still "recent". But what if by "early" they meant "from a few months ago"? If nothing else it was somewhat old because that was their latest "stable" build while their devs certainly have unstable builds being worked on still. No way they risk a huge event like that with untested software. And they don't want to show their whole hand so far out. They just wanted to get the base UI and principles out there to get the hype started. We'll prolly se a more feature complete build at MIX. Maybe even a full emulator
It's not like Engadget is going to be borrowing the device with no MS person around. I wouldn't be surprised if a MS person was the only one using the device like at MWC. Don't expect Engadget to find anything out by playing with it. If there is any new info learned, it will be from a MS person telling them the info while showing off the OS. Not impossible but not likely either.

Engadget's latest teaser for the event sheds some more light...
Microsoft will also be on hand to demo Windows Phone 7 Series and the company's own Aaron Woodman will be sharing stories about the major changes Redmond has made to the Windows mobile OS.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/26/the-engadget-show-tapes-tomorrow-snow-or-shine-plus-livestr/
so yea, doesn't sound like the engadget folks will be getting any actual hands-on time with it. For now you either have to work for Microsoft or be the 6yr old child of a Microsoft employee.

They are demonstrating an LG prototype (see: WP7 release phone) on this show live now:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/27/the-engadget-show-live-with-avner-ronen-wp7s-demo-and-more/

So, since I missed it, was there anything interesting on the show?

vangrieg said:
So, since I missed it, was there anything interesting on the show?
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No, engadget earning a lot of money on transmitting a WP7S ad.

vangrieg said:
So, since I missed it, was there anything interesting on the show?
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No not much at all.
The guy at MS was very vague (except for the "hint" that we should attend Mix2010) and didn't reveal any new information.
The biggest thing was the first WP7 phone, the LG whatever. It had a keyboard, but they neglected to try out WP7 in landscape.
They said not to rule out Linux and Mac support for WP7. It is currently not supported, but is an "internal debate".
Also noted is that the IE is an early build, and I wouldn't be surprised if the whole OS is still an early build.
Supposedly MS has been talking with Adobe for awhile and Flash would be an important thing to have in the browser (something of that sort) and MS wants their browser to be competitive, yada yada.

Don't wanna say much but watch this guy!

I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp

Well, I can't take a quy serious who calls it Windows Mobile 8 and this vid is also quite heavily biased. And you will also quickly notice his main interest: good hardware specs.

I couldn't even get past the the first 40 seconds.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2

Cant believe you made me click on that link and add to his view counts!

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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I want to thank you SO MUCH for this link, that clicking on the THANKS button IS NOT ENOUGH!:laugh:

"Windows Mobile 8"
wtf...
he also says that only "Windows Mobile 8" devices are gonna be able to acces gmail... wtf

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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Lolz, 40 secs wasted on my life~ XD

That dumbass deleted my comments...
u__u

Thanks for the lulz xD

What a moron, he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
Android fanboy.

This guy is a complete idiot! Waste of my time especially with the Windows Mobile reference and the Gmail app piece. And he says Windows Mobile never compared to Android. It's because Android wasn't around when it came out. And they minimized Windows onto a phone in like 2000...Windows Mobile:laugh:

I managed to get a good 3min out of that before his voice and general lack of any intelligence what so ever got the better of me, forcing me to try stab my screen with a pitch folk when ever he opened his month.
I am amazed that such inbreeding still goes on in western countries, which surely must be the only reason for such a mentally challenged presenter.
Ill happily list anyone valid pros and cons of any device and remain completely objective whilst doing it AND putting aside that WP suites my needs best, why cant people who put them selves in that position at least attempt to be impartial?!
unless of course that was his sole aim!
To get all clear thinking people flapping about him being a complete nob.
In which case my friend, you have exceled yourself

I was waiting for him to start signing the Barbie Girl song.

renatofontes said:
That dumbass deleted my comments...
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He deleted both of my comments too.

he is funny,total android fanboy.
first he cry about wp7 phones that can't be updated to wp8 (that is actually a bummer) and hoe stupid MS is
and about 5 min later he cry's about 10 min long how bad verison is that he can't get ics on his phones
F*****ing nope if you ask me , they actually sould ban him from the internet and take away all phones he has , give him a brick to use for calling

Getting him an Aligator would be enough
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for those who are not familiar with it

This guy is clearly tripping on something. I found this video hilarious.

I watched about 40 seconds, wrote a vile reply that most likely will be erased and left. It hurt to watch that bull****.

He needs a Kleenex.

With everyone trying to sit through it, I decided to as well. Horrible presenter - not much in the way of facts or information, he just 'feels bad' about Win8. All I could think throughout the time I could stand was CAGE MATCH!!! Let's see how this fanboi stands up to a WP fanboi... err, whatever we call General the Destroyer [FONT=&quot]http://www.youtube.com/user/generalthedestroyer
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I found a way of installing NATO straps on my 360 without a SteelConnect.

It's hacky, but it works. Let me know if you guys want a write-up.
NOTE: You don't have to break the back of the watch to get this to work. I broke it a while back.
http://imgur.com/zOQEX0T
http://imgur.com/mHDEaGV
http://imgur.com/fqDgWtv
http://imgur.com/34DlC19

mrcrassic said:
NOTE: You don't have to break the back of the watch to get this to work. I broke it a while back.
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ouch is an understatement
hope that NEVER happens to my watch

Sweet Mercy that looks painful!
Nice hack though, I'm always on the lookout for interesting hardware mods!
Question though, mine has started cracking too... anything other than aesthetics affected by it? Heart rate monitor or dust ingress? It would be good to know what to expect if my crack starts expanding... maybe I should dremel it preemptively?

Eek, how did you break it like that?!

Let me guess your real job is a butcher!

Truetek said:
Sweet Mercy that looks painful!
Nice hack though, I'm always on the lookout for interesting hardware mods!
Question though, mine has started cracking too... anything other than aesthetics affected by it? Heart rate monitor or dust ingress? It would be good to know what to expect if my crack starts expanding... maybe I should dremel it preemptively?
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call motorola and get a free replacement. No reason to have a cracked back! You even get a free charging cradle out of the whole thing (and I think the replacements are stronger because I haven't had an issue since I got it swapped)

SchmilK said:
call motorola and get a free replacement. No reason to have a cracked back! You even get a free charging cradle out of the whole thing (and I think the replacements are stronger because I haven't had an issue since I got it swapped)
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I'm in that situation where I bought it from someone who bought it in the US, and I find myself in Canada... And Motorola isn't capable of shipping me a replacement, unless I give them a US based address... Seems like too much of a hassle really, everything else is fine, and it had this tiny crack when I bought it (the guy had small wrists, much smaller than mine). I check it every night before I put it on the charger, hasn't expanded at all.
Given some horror stories I've read online of DOA units, dead pixels that aren't covered by warranty and other things, I'd rather stick with my perfectly functional one . Worst case, I'll just dremel the edges to reduce strain.
Thanks for the advice though! :good:

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I'm sorry, but to be honest... It looks like ****...

Im sorry but i stall cant stop laughing

The cracks happen when using wrong bands. The metal bands push against the glass back and they crack the glass. Normally the back won't crack when using the genuine strap. I had the pebble steel on the moto360 and saw the glass started damaging so I removed it. If I had it still on then it would have cracked almost certainly

There sure are! At Southern Straps we have NATOs for the MOTO 360
Check us out when you get the chance. Out straps come with a Lifetime Warranty and our founder came from the Android Wear project.
Our bands fit Apple, Pebble and all Android Wear watches!

to fly or not to fly. Explain the green bar to the hostess

If today I receive the new Samsung, ( the safe, green battery), can I fly tomorrow?

seriously samsung need to just push a require app on the phone that show the date of the phone, "the second gen" of the note 7, and any other info it may need...

Kansatsusha said:
seriously samsung need to just push a require app on the phone that show the date of the phone, "the second gen" of the note 7, and any other info it may need...
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I dunno. But i can tell you that if is true than 10 October finally I am going to grab this object, I will bring with me everywhere.
Nobody is succesfully traveling at the moment with the new sammy, on a fly that before were interdicting it?

Call a flight attendant a "hostess" and you'll have bigger problems than your Note7. I flew with my old pre-replacement Note7 turned off and on my tray table on American and Delta. No one noticed or cared. If they do notice or care I'd suggest printing out and carrying the following. You can also show them your device is OK using the Samsung+ app. I highly doubt you'll be asked unless a member of the flight crew is also a mobile device enthusiast.
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fair enough Barry. Just last week i flew with Transavia, it was written at the moment of the check in, that I could not bring my note 7, not that I have to have a new eligible one. I really hope that Samsung, will manage this contacting every fly agency, because the Samsung target is also one that flies imo.

trocchietto said:
If today I receive the new Samsung, ( the safe, green battery), can I fly tomorrow?
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You could have flown with the old one.

Take your old receipt for the original and the new receipt for the new one. I doubt that could be argued with.
I totally sympathise with flight crew who are security conscience, if they apply rules to me I feel rather happy knowing they are just the same with all passengers and their has been a small problem with the Note 7 so at 11,000M I agree with very high security.
What concerns me is the attitude of a tiny minority who are refusing to change mobiles despite knowing the situation. Very selfish attitude especially as Samsung has agreed to change all 'old' devices.
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You could have flown with the old one.
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Only if your a selfish 'person' (add your own expletive). We don't live in a vacuum so we have to be aware of our civic duty to others. All for freedom but abuse of freedom like that is dangerous.
Ryland

Ryland Johnson said:
Only if your a selfish 'person' (add your own expletive). We don't live in a vacuum so we have to be aware of our civic duty to others. All for freedom but abuse of freedom like that is dangerous.
Ryland
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lol. Internet police keeping the world safe....

andyahs said:
lol. Internet police keeping the world safe....
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Called being an adult nothing more nothing less. :good:
Ryland

Question Display problem with new Fold 3

Got my new Fold 3 today, set it up and immediately noticed that something was wrong with the screens, both large and small. With certain apps such as Google Maps, Samsung Browser, Chrome, Amazon, etc., I have spots on the screen that seem to get stuck and merge into lines when scrolling. This happens on both screens when opened and closed. I've tried Wipe Cache, Factory Reset, and a few other options. Seems to be a hardware issue. Probably a GPU failure if certain hardware acceleration is required. In some apps it doesn't happen at all like Firefox, Youtube, Samsung Gallery, Facebook.
Anyone with the same problem?
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agathocles2021 said:
Got my new Fold 3 today, set it up and immediately noticed that something was wrong with the screens, both large and small. With certain apps such as Google Maps, Samsung Browser, Chrome, Amazon, etc., I have spots on the screen that seem to get stuck and merge into lines when scrolling. This happens on both screens when opened and closed. I've tried Wipe Cache, Factory Reset, and a few other options. Seems to be a hardware issue. Probably a GPU failure if certain hardware acceleration is required. In some apps it doesn't happen at all like Firefox, Youtube, Samsung Gallery, Facebook.
Anyone with the same problem?
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Wow. Full reset first. Then if not, return.

lawtq said:
Wow. Full reset first. Then if not, return.
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Out of the box it should work.
It left the factory like that more than likely
Factory resets solve little* and worse the issue is likely to reoccur if the root cause isn't found.
The return window clock is running down, tick-tock Mr Wick.
*use after major firmware updates, malware that can't be eradicated and system damage caused by 3rd party apks.

Jake.S said:
You seems just to be a samsung hater please go away if you have nothing positive to say. Secondly Sweden have had this law for years.
I bet you are a Apple executive or some apple fan.
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Man, I'm sure you know the laws of your land better than he does, but let the man say what he likes. Everything has to be positive?

Well saying things in favour of Samsung does not mean that one is a Samsung executive, and complaints about Samsung doesn't always come from an Apple executive, or an Xiaomi executive. It is exaggerated.
Actually in my opinion folding phones are only a proof of concept and still a long way to become, reliable, and durable, to use. Also it doesn't really brings a ton more than normal phones, considering that they are just pocketable tablets with a less durable screen and less battery life. This is just my point of view and if you don't agree comment below.

@blackhawk & @Oswald Boelcke Ok my good friends, now that we have a good understanding of customer rights in the EU, I have done a little thread vacuuming (by request) so that we may return to our regularly scheduled "on topic" programing.
Cheers: The Badger!

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@blackhawk & @Oswald Boelcke Ok my good friends, now that we have a good understanding of customer rights in the EU, I have done a little thread vacuuming (by request) so that we may return to our regularly scheduled "on topic" programing.
Cheers: The Badger!
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Sorry to pry but could we get a tl;Dr of what those rights are? Could be useful for people in those regions if they have problems and find this thread.
Although regardless of your regional rights OP wants a working phone right? So returning it as soon as possible makes sense. Iirc in the UK returns are possible up to 7 years later but the sooner you do it the more likely a manufacturer is to help without questions.

mspa.jpg image is from screencapture ??
Take a screenshot and see if it's the same.

supapap said:
mspa.jpg image is from screencapture ??
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took a picture of screen with another phone.
Replacement phone is already on the way and will be delivered today. Requested exchange yesterday morning with Samsung Germany.

LR7875 said:
Well saying things in favour of Samsung does not mean that one is a Samsung executive, and complaints about Samsung doesn't always come from an Apple executive, or an Xiaomi executive. It is exaggerated.
Actually in my opinion folding phones are only a proof of concept and still a long way to become, reliable, and durable, to use. Also it doesn't really brings a ton more than normal phones, considering that they are just pocketable tablets with a less durable screen and less battery life. This is just my point of view and if you don't agree comment below.
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i agree its just a concept thats has been bought to the public imo