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of hardware acceleration? Would it make the phone faster and smoother than the SGS2 from tmobile?
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of hardware acceleration? Would it make the phone faster and smoother than the SGS2 from tmobile?
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I would like to think so because Google will optimize the software specifically for that hardware and they won't stop updating till they get it right. Is the GS2 capable of being faster than the GN? Yes it is, it all just depends on how well the software is optimized for the hardware its on.
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Chances are yes
The t mo gs II has a disgusting processor (dont flame me for that)
Ti omap should be better if not on par to the exynos which is better than the snapdragon u guys have
G nexus is a NEXUS (keyword) so it will definitely run really smooth
And if ics does have hardware accel google has officialy incorperated god mode into android
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gtuansdiamm said:
Chances are yes
The t mo gs II has a disgusting processor (dont flame me for that)
Ti omap should be better if not on par to the exynos which is better than the snapdragon u guys have
G nexus is a NEXUS (keyword) so it will definitely run really smooth
And if ics does have hardware accel google has officialy incorperated god mode into android
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The S3 processor isn't disgusting, but it definitely isn't gonna out perform the Exynos or Texas Instrument. I can't keep stressing the fact about optimization. If the software is optimized well then our phone will be able to compete. Have you ever played with a Windows Phone 7 phone? The phone's hardware is out of date, but the phone's UI and transitions perform excellent. Our hardware is very capable of the same exact things as the GN.
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OuncE718 said:
The S3 processor isn't disgusting, but it definitely isn't gonna out perform the Exynos or Texas Instrument. I can't keep stressing the fact about optimization. If the software is optimized well then our phone will be able to compete. Have you ever played with a Windows Phone 7 phone? The phone's hardware is out of date, but the phone's UI and transitions perform excellent. Our hardware is very capable of the same exact things as the GN.
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Actually the s3 outperforms the ti processor. Ti processors don't have a lot of features. The reason its so smooth is because it's using the same gpu as the ipad2. Ti dual core processors have been use in motorola phones. Before they were quite underwhelming even when they had stock. To be precise exynos and s3 are quite on par with each other. Asynchronous technology in processor can complete task faster if programmed correctly. Use one processor as a garbage/data collector use the other processor to complete task. When two processors are perfectly in sync you waste more energy then what you would need. Thus draining your precious battery life. The gpu department has slightly better features as well. The Adreno 220 is a better rendering and shaders than the Mali 400. Mali 400 is still a more powerful gpu though. They all have their pros and cons though so no you won't see a difference if you have optimized software for you phone.
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Actually the s3 outperforms the ti processor. Ti processors don't have a lot of features. The reason its so smooth is because it's using the same gpu as the ipad2. Ti dual core processors have been use in motorola phones. Before they were quite underwhelming even when they had stock. To be precise exynos and s3 are quite on par with each other. Asynchronous technology in processor can complete task faster if programmed correctly. Use one processor as a garbage/data collector use the other processor to complete task. When two processors are perfectly in sync you waste more energy then what you would need. Thus draining your precious battery life. The gpu department has slightly better features as well. The Adreno 220 is a better rendering and shaders than the Mali 400. Mali 400 is still a more powerful gpu though. They all have their pros and cons though so no you won't see a difference if you have optimized software for you phone.
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This is well written.
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Didn't cm7 have some sort of gpu update on the g2 phone? I would assume if I'm right on this it would be done here as well?
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What is the diference between "htc ONE X" and "htc ONE XL?
The L in XL is for LTE, more specifically, AT&T's LTE. Tegra 3 does not support LTE yet, so the AT&T XL has the Snapdragon S4 dual core processor instead of Nvidia's offering.
is that true that the S4 are better then tegra?
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is that true that the S4 are better then tegra?
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Depends. For now, it could be better. But the reason dual core is better than quad core - most applications dont have support for quad core, they usualy use only 1 or 2 cores. At that point S4 cores are better then tegra3.
If you will do some gaming, with tegra3 games, tegra3 > S4 by alot. If you will use normal apps, then S4 could handle better.
I suggest you to w8 for XL versions to be out, so ppl can test X vs XL. So far tests was made S vs X, and it cant be 100% accurate, because the S version got smaller resolution, so the processing power compared to job it have to do is better on S version, then its on X.
tegra 3 is much better and has a geat advantage specially in benchmarks
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tegra 3 is much better and has a geat advantage specially in benchmarks
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You are gonna get a golden shovel mate, you just digged out 9 months old thread
Guys, I don't know if it's the right section, so I'll gladly ask to a moderator to move it, if I'm wrong.
To the point, I'm about to get a new GNex to me, and every single place where I read, I always hear good things about the phone. I wanted to ask how is the day-to-day performance, gaming performance and how it performs when compared to Tegra 2 or Qualcomm S3 or S4. I know Quadrant is not an indicative of the phone's real performance, so I want your help to figure out why Quadrant results are poor compared even to Tegra 2, and if I'll feel any hiccups or something like that...
Thanks for the help!
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Guys, I don't know if it's the right section, so I'll gladly ask to a moderator to move it, if I'm wrong.
To the point, I'm about to get a new GNex to me, and every single place where I read, I always hear good things about the phone. I wanted to ask how is the day-to-day performance, gaming performance and how it performs when compared to Tegra 2 or Qualcomm S3 or S4. I know Quadrant is not an indicative of the phone's real performance, so I want your help to figure out why Quadrant results are poor compared even to Tegra 2, and if I'll feel any hiccups or something like that...
Thanks for the help!
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I haven't experienced any hiccups since the 4.1.1 update and gaming is definitely very smoothe.
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Games are smooth, and the performance is good. Overall the OMAP is adequate for the purposes.
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you get low quadrant scores on aosp/cm builds. Stock Google is also like aosp, thus lower scores.
If you really want to check, try antutu.
day-to-day performance:
Tegra 2 + Snapdragon S3: TI OMAP 4460 wipes the floor with those two.
Snapdragon S4: Best mobile "day-to-day" SOC to date, so you figure it out.
Well,
I came from an LG Optimus 2x (Tegra2 @ 1GHz, 512MB of RAM) and the change was HUGE!!!
Tegra 2 was a great graphics oriented SoC and with the Nexus I still get more performance with more pixels to render (1280x720 vs 800x480). I know that more RAM on the Nexus helps, but gaming is still great in the Nexus.
In many websites they still recommend the Galaxy Nexus from newer phones because of the value/price ratio. In fact, in Android Central, the Galaxy Nexus was still the best android phone as of July 2012 thanks to the buttery UI in Jelly Bean which makes it as fast as an S3 or a OneX. I only have a couple of weeks with the phone and I love it.
Cheers!
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day-to-day performance:
Tegra 2 + Snapdragon S3: TI OMAP 4460 wipes the floor with those two.
Snapdragon S4: Best mobile "day-to-day" SOC to date, so you figure it out.
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what you mean with that? OMAP is better or not? didn't understand it
when you wipe floor with something, that means that thing is rubbish.
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when you wipe floor with something, that means that thing is rubbish.
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so OMAP4 > S3, okay
Yes the omap is a superb chipset one of my favorites. Its more elegantly designed then some others out there. Dual channel memory is huge. Decodes 1080p video at the hardware level. Its good.
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you get low quadrant scores on aosp/cm builds. Stock Google is also like aosp, thus lower scores.
If you really want to check, try antutu.
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So, if GNex was a TouchWiz Samsung, for example, Quadrant scores would be higher? If that's true, that's a relief, because AnTuTu produces higher scores than Exynos, for instance. About JB 4.1.1, does it affect gaming performance in anyway?
Snapdragon S4 is the king of dual core.
However, OMAP 4460 is still quite the respectable processor.
I'm looking at picking up a S3 to use on Bell in Canada. Is there any reason that either the i9300 or i747 is better than one another?
MagicMan3 said:
I'm looking at picking up a S3 to use on Bell in Canada. Is there any reason that either the i9300 or i747 is better than one another?
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Key difference between the 2 is the i747 has a dual-core running on slightly newer architecture and the i9300 has a quad-core. The i747 also 2gb of ram compared to the i9300 which has 1gb. I believe that the i747 is slightly better for everyday use where the i9300 is slightly better for gaming, this is based on the hardware but I haven't had any issues gaming on my i747.
EDIT: Oh and I almost forgot the i9300 doesn't have LTE data speeds where the i747 does. IMO if you are going to be on Bell the i747 would be better so you can make use of the LTE speeds.
They are completely different inside.
i9300
- Quad Core
- 1 GB Ram
- No LTE
i747
- Dual Core
- LTE modem
- 2 GB Ram
If you don't care about LTE support and want a phone that runs faster and games better then the i9300 is better.
If you need LTE speeds then you have to get the i747.
Personally my i747 seems to get very warm when gaming so maybe the i9300 doesnt run as hot because it would not have to work as hard.
Google will tell you all the differences between the phones
Hmmm... tough one.
There is no LTE where I am, currently on my Note I peak around 19megs down so I personally don't really have a need for LTE and I don't game. So I guess it really comes down to better overall daily usage and battery life.
I'm pretty sure the Tegra 3 is based on Cortex A9 cores, while the Exynos in the i747 is based on Cortex A15 cores, meaning the i747 should destroy the i9300 in single threaded performance. Also, it has more RAM and LTE support.
However, if you want better developer support then I would go for the i9300 for sure.
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I'm pretty sure the Tegra 3 is based on Cortex A9 cores, while the Exynos in the i747 is based on Cortex A15 cores, meaning the i747 should destroy the i9300 in single threaded performance. Also, it has more RAM and LTE support.
However, if you want better developer support then I would go for the i9300 for sure.
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Actually the i747 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor at 1.5 GHz, and the i9300 has the Exynos 4412 processor at 1.4 GHz.
The snapdragon is a dual core using Krait architecture wich is 3 instructions per clock whereas the Exynos is quad core cortex A9 wich can do only 2 instructions per second. So based on that the Snapdragon in the S4 is much more efficient per clock cycle and therefore per core.
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Actually the i747 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor at 1.5 GHz, and the i9300 has the Exynos 4412 processor at 1.4 GHz.
The snapdragon is a dual core using Krait architecture wich is 3 instructions per clock whereas the Exynos is quad core cortex A9 wich can do only 2 instructions per second. So based on that the Snapdragon in the S4 is much more efficient per clock cycle and therefore per core.
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Thanks everyone, think I'll go with the i747
Hey Guys,
i want to buy a new Tablet soon. But I cant choose which device I should buy.
I heard the new Nexus 7 has a Snapdragon 600 not S4 Pro, just underglocked.
But is the new Nexus 7 faster than the Nvidia Shield ?
Thank you
Wait for custom kernels to come out to see how much we can overclock the new Nexus 7.
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Wait for custom kernels to come out to see how much we can overclock the new Nexus 7.
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Okay thanks for the Answer but what do you think could be faster? When Shield and Nexus 7 would be Overglocked which one would have more Performance?
the Shield for sure. the S4 Pro is a last gen processor. the T4 is still pretty new.
however, there are things to consider.
the New N7 is a tablet first, gaming "rig" second. its vice versa for the Shield.
the N7 is more portable
the N7 has a MUCH nicer screen
the Shield should only be bought if you plan on JUST playing games on it...something like a PS vita/Nintendo DS replacement. if you plan on using it for videos, surfing, other apps, i would stick with the N7.
my new N7 plays games beautifully....and honestly, I'm not sure i could tell the difference between it, and a T4 powered device. But I'm not one to get too cought up in the Frame Rate debate. the new one looks fantastic compared to my old N7, which looked fantastic compared to my galaxy nexu.
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the Shield for sure. the S4 Pro is a last gen processor. the T4 is still pretty new.
however, there are things to consider.
the New N7 is a tablet first, gaming "rig" second. its vice versa for the Shield.
the N7 is more portable
the N7 has a MUCH nicer screen
the Shield should only be bought if you plan on JUST playing games on it...something like a PS vita/Nintendo DS replacement. if you plan on using it for videos, surfing, other apps, i would stick with the N7.
my new N7 plays games beautifully....and honestly, I'm not sure i could tell the difference between it, and a T4 powered device. But I'm not one to get too cought up in the Frame Rate debate. the new one looks fantastic compared to my old N7, which looked fantastic compared to my galaxy nexu.
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Hey i still have a old N7. But hasnt Tegra some Special effects on games? And is it possible to use These on a Nexus 7?
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Hey i still have a old N7. But hasnt Tegra some Special effects on games? And is it possible to use These on a Nexus 7?
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Most likely not.
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TeamEquinox said:
Hey Guys,
i want to buy a new Tablet soon. But I cant choose which device I should buy.
I heard the new Nexus 7 has a Snapdragon 600 not S4 Pro, just underglocked.
But is the new Nexus 7 faster than the Nvidia Shield ?
Thank you
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No, the teardown reveals it is a s4 pro, I have a nexus 4, the s4 pro works best at 1.7ghz, for me, overclocking to 1.8 or higher actually makes the chip slower. The tegra 4 destroys the s4 pro, just because it is newer, just like the s800 desteroys the pro/s600. I have yet to get this tablet, but I suspect it is a lot faster than the tegra 3 of the original nexus 7
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IRX120 said:
No, the teardown reveals it is a s4 pro, I have a nexus 4, the s4 pro works best at 1.7ghz, for me, overclocking to 1.8 or higher actually makes the chip slower. The tegra 4 destroys the s4 pro, just because it is newer, just like the s800 desteroys the pro/s600. I have yet to get this tablet, but I suspect it is a lot faster than the tegra 3 of the original nexus 7
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I thought the opposite - the teardown shows it as a Snap 600...
SAUCE: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4
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No, the teardown reveals it is a s4 pro, I have a nexus 4, the s4 pro works best at 1.7ghz, for me, overclocking to 1.8 or higher actually makes the chip slower. The tegra 4 destroys the s4 pro, just because it is newer, just like the s800 desteroys the pro/s600. I have yet to get this tablet, but I suspect it is a lot faster than the tegra 3 of the original nexus 7
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The chip is krait 300. Qualcomm can call it what it wants buts not the same s4 pro in the nexus 4.
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The chip is krait 300. Qualcomm can call it what it wants buts not the same s4 pro in the nexus 4.
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Oh? I'm confused then? So it is an s4? but a different one?
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Something like that. Its called one but its not one if that makes sense. Seems Qualcomm doesn't want to give the 600 name for anything under 1.7 GHz.
The naming scheme Qualcomm is using is nuts. But it is really essentially a 1.5 GHz snapdragon 600.
Edit. Adding link. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4
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Something like that. Its called one but its not one if that makes sense. Seems Qualcomm doesn't want to give the 600 name for anything under 1.7 GHz.
The naming scheme Qualcomm is using is nuts. But it is really essentially a 1.5 GHz snapdragon 600
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Yes this is the Website is it now a underglocked 600 or just a s4 pro?
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Oh? I'm confused then? So it is an s4? but a different one?
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The iFixit teardown of the Galaxy S4 shows a chip named APQ8064, even if it's a Snapdragon 600.
Probably, it's just a new Snapdragon 600 version, made to run at 1.5 GHz.
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