Ok I have a couple of general questions that some may be able to chime in on....
1) with sprint changing up the game and switching over to 4gLTE instead of WIMAXX, are we as Evo wimax users ever going to be able to use LTE w/o upgrading our phone completely?
(I LIVE IN A WIMAXX STRICKEN AREA OF VA AND FEEL AS IF I GOT DUKED ON 2 4G PHONES)
2) Do you guys ever think there will be a rom that will help support Ltd for those of us stricken 4g users now. Or possibly an OTA that will pull us to the top with the rest of the pack of Ltd users?
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I'm not exactly sure, but I think the 4G (WiMAX) radio in your phone is a physical thing so I don't think you will be able to use the LTE and an OTA or a rom would not change that. I did hear that Sprint will support WiMAX for a while, even if they do switch to LTE.
are we as Evo wimax users ever going to be able to use LTE w/o upgrading our phone completely?
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No, the Evo will NEVER work on LTE, as it doesn't have an LTE radio. It will continue to work on the wimax network for as long as sprint supports it (probably 2 years or so).
2) Do you guys ever think there will be a rom that will help support Ltd for those of us stricken 4g users now. Or possibly an OTA that will pull us to the top with the rest of the pack of Ltd users?
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Again no. Flashing a rom isn't going to physically put an LTE radio chip in your phone.
Valid point didn't think about the wimax radio being a physical device...dumb ass me!!!..ha ha..thanks for the reply guys
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I have the nexus,obviously, and would like to know if I can use the Verizon version on a different network
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Nope. CDMA phones are locked and there's no good way to unlock them.
ihavenewnike said:
I have the nexus,obviously, and would like to know if I can use the Verizon version on a different network
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Nope. If you buy the Verizon one you're stuck. Theres a small glimmer of hope that you could reflash it to another regional CDMA carrier, but even that's a long-shot.
ihavenewnike said:
I have the nexus,obviously, and would like to know if I can use the Verizon version on a different network
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short answer, no
long answer, yes
Anything can be done with enough will power. But practically speaking, no you cant.
I know a guy who got his CDMA EVO 3D working on ATT's GSM network. And I flashed my Sprint only EVO 3D to connect to Verizon. So yes these things are possible, but I wouldnt bother if I were you. If you want to use your VZW Nexus on a GSM network, then why didnt you just get a contract and GSM phone on whichever Network you wanted? If you want to flash to Sprint, Why? Verizon is much better, I just came from Sprint so believe me when I say Sprint has some ****ty service right now. Too many upgrades going on.
So by far best phone on sprint is the et4g. Seeing sprint is turning to lte will the et4g be compatible to lte?
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Nope, the Epic Touch won't support LTE. It only supports WiMAX.
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No, and Sprint's turning off WiMax (what the E4GT, Evo, Evo 3D, Photon, and all Sprint 4G phones) use around 2015. I hate thinking about it but by then we'll be on to the SGS5.
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I was just at a CORPORATE Sprint store getting my poor OG Epic repaired. While I was waiting, I asked about the Galaxy Nexus. I was told that the EPIC 4G TOUCH needed a firmware update, and it could then be used on the new LTE network by a Sprint salesperson in the store. Sounds official to me!!
J.
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I was just at a CORPORATE Sprint store getting my poor OG Epic repaired. While I was waiting, I asked about the Galaxy Nexus. I was told that the EPIC 4G TOUCH needed a firmware update, and it could then be used on the new LTE network by a Sprint salesperson in the store. Sounds official to me!!
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I have asked a few of the sales reps and customer service people about this. They say that it is not going to be able to use the LTE service, and that it would need new hardware. And if I'm not mistaken, The wimax service that we currently use is from another company that sprint is with. So i'm not real sure how this will play out, but it is definitely not going to be able to use the LTE service.
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I was just at a CORPORATE Sprint store getting my poor OG Epic repaired. While I was waiting, I asked about the Galaxy Nexus. I was told that the EPIC 4G TOUCH needed a firmware update, and it could then be used on the new LTE network by a Sprint salesperson in the store. Sounds official to me!!
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Note to you.....you are gullible....the hardware will not even sniff a lte signal.....thus would be like saying with a firmware upgrade your dvd player will play bluray..... The first CPU that Samsung has that can handle lte is the one going in the galaxy 3 ....that is why every galaxy 2 that had lte was omap or snapdragon....the CPU in our phone is incompatible
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Get off my ass dude... What about Samsung's Droid Charge. There, your credibility is already shot!
Anyway, apparently there is an inactive 800 Mhz radio in the E4GT. Rumor has it is that is the way it can be accomplished. It remains to be seen, but remember the Motorola Xoom? Same principle I guess...
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Get off my ass dude... What about Samsung's Droid Charge. There, your credibility is already shot!
Anyway, apparently there is an inactive 800 Mhz radio in the E4GT. Rumor has it is that is the way it can be accomplished. It remains to be seen, but remember the Motorola Xoom? Same principle I guess...
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A) The Droid Charge doesn't have an Exynos processor in it like the Galaxy S II
B) The Exynos does NOT do LTE, which is why the Skyrocket and AT&T Galaxy Note have Snapdragon S3s in them, not Exynos.
C) He's right. You're not going to magically get LTE with a WiMax radio or even the built in CDMA radio. It doesn't matter if LTE is going to be transmitted on that frequency; the phone's modem won't understand what LTE is.
D) The Xoom actually had it's original radio REPLACED by Motorola, in addition to a software update. You had to send your Xoom to Motorola for them to physically open it up and add/replace the LTE radio.
E) It requires a SIM card, which the E4GT doesn't have a slot for.
Done.
IRead and understand that 800 mhz radio is cdma like the evo 3d for voice and 3g that is it ...when they decommission the iden frequencies they may put voice on the frequencies but there its no chance of lte on this phone .....none .... go read the other 4 threads already about this ....
And i will not lump all sprint employees in the same boat but 95 % of sprint employees are legally brain dead..... Just a joke ... But they know nothing about phones or the network...you will get the correct info here way before a sprint employee.... But some regional managers and such actually have some info but salesmen etc at stores even customer service have no clue
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IRead and understand that 800 mhz radio is cdma like the evo 3d for voice and 3g that is it ...when they decommission the iden frequencies they may put voice on the frequencies but there its no chance of lte on this phone .....none .... go read the other 4 threads already about this ....
And i will not lump all sprint employees in the same boat but 95 % of sprint employees are legally brain dead..... Just a joke ... But they know nothing about phones or the network...you will get the correct info here way before a sprint employee.... But some regional managers and such actually have some info but salesmen etc at stores even customer service have no clue
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I was a technician in a Sprint store and I agree with the bolded statement 100%.
And you're right about no chance of LTE on any current Sprint phone.
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A) The Droid Charge doesn't have an Exynos processor in it like the Galaxy S II
B) The Exynos does NOT do LTE, which is why the Skyrocket and AT&T Galaxy Note have Snapdragon S3s in them, not Exynos.
C) He's right. You're not going to magically get LTE with a WiMax radio or even the built in CDMA radio. It doesn't matter if LTE is going to be transmitted on that frequency; the phone's modem won't understand what LTE is.
D) The Xoom actually had it's original radio REPLACED by Motorola, in addition to a software update. You had to send your Xoom to Motorola for them to physically open it up and add/replace the LTE radio.
E) It requires a SIM card, which the E4GT doesn't have a slot for.
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The Photon has an LTE modem installed, it will be able to work on the lte setup. You lose, research before you speak.
Guys, ALL 4g devices will work just not on 4g LTE network. They just don't download at LTE speeds. You gotta remember that LTE is still a 4g based network. So, we are talking about downloading at 5mb/s or 10mb/s. At those speeds, it really doesn't matter unless you are trying to stream 5 porns in high quality at once lol. Same thing as 1x/2g still working but 3g is preferred.
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The Photon has an LTE modem installed, it will be able to work on the lte setup. You lose, research before you speak.
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Actually you lose because the Photon has both the WiMax and the LTE radios built in the LTE just isnt activated...
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The Photon has an LTE modem installed, it will be able to work on the lte setup. You lose, research before you speak.
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The Photon most definitely does NOT have an LTE modem installed. I don't know where you think you got your info. It has the bece3502 chipset which is WiMax ONLY. On top of that, if you read the FCC filings it has only passed for use with WiMax, not LTE. So YOU lose, and you are the one who should research before you speak. ROFL
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The Photon has an LTE modem installed, it will be able to work on the lte setup. You lose, research before you speak.
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I thanked you by mistake, but I just wanted you to know, I was a technician at Sprint...I have all the research I need. My job was to open up and repair phones. The Photon does not have an LTE modem. Please show me where you read that it does. And please no, XDA threads with speculation about it. I want solid evidence, like an official spec sheet that says so.
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I thanked you by mistake, but I just wanted you to know, I was a technician at Sprint...I have all the research I need. My job was to open up and repair phones. The Photon does not have an LTE modem. Please show me where you read that it does. And please no, XDA threads with speculation about it. I want solid evidence, like an official spec sheet that says so.
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This is the same misconception as the epic touch and evo3d just because they were made to work on the 800 mhz frequency...they think the cdma radio will pick up lte signal.... Its actually really funny how they argue like they really know
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Product F(RED) said:
I thanked you by mistake, but I just wanted you to know, I was a technician at Sprint...I have all the research I need. My job was to open up and repair phones. The Photon does not have an LTE modem. Please show me where you read that it does. And please no, XDA threads with speculation about it. I want solid evidence, like an official spec sheet that says so.
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Plug it in people. Sprint may not update the firmware to allow it, but it does have one. You girls can fight about whatever you want, I know the truth, and it doesn't matter if you think it will or not, I was just giving people the correct info. Flame me or whatever, I know what I see, and I know what is in the photon. If you in fact did take photons apart then you would know as well. This has already been discussed in many other threads so I will stop beating the horse. Peace.
All this talk about the photon and I bet not one of you actually owned one. lol
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This is the same misconception as the epic touch and evo3d just because they were made to work on the 800 mhz frequency...they think the cdma radio will pick up lte signal.... Its actually really funny how they argue like they really know
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Its amazing the people they let in these forums. I'm glad you like to tell people what they think, good stuff. I never once said anything about the cdma modem working as an lte modem. But hey you can create statements however you want.
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Plug it in people. Sprint may not update the firmware to allow it, but it does have one. You girls can fight about whatever you want, I know the truth, and it doesn't matter if you think it will or not, I was just giving people the correct info. Flame me or whatever, I know what I see, and I know what is in the photon. If you in fact did take photons apart then you would know as well. This has already been discussed in many other threads so I will stop beating the horse. Peace.
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The LTE modem is left over from the Verizon Bionic. The hardware simply isn't there.
I can install AMD GPU drivers on my computer all I want.... but it won't give me the hardware.
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Note to you.....you are gullible....the hardware will not even sniff a lte signal.....thus would be like saying with a firmware upgrade your dvd player will play bluray..... The first CPU that Samsung has that can handle lte is the one going in the galaxy 3 ....that is why every galaxy 2 that had lte was omap or snapdragon....the CPU in our phone is incompatible
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You mean the Galaxy Nexus...
all of you are so silly! of COURSE our etouch will work with lte! why would sprint release a device designed for a specific technology, and then piss on the ENTIRE customer base of wimax owners by not only HALTING the development of wimax, but then switching to a completely diff technology our device would NEVER have the capability of working with?
common sense...
So if our phone is customized cdma/lte is it possible to mirror temporarily to get straight 4g until we get lte? Or is our phone not capable/modifiable to do so?
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rootxda said:
So if our phone is customized cdma/lte is it possible to mirror temporarily to get straight 4g until we get lte? Or is our phone not capable/modifiable to do so?
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The 4G network that sprint currently has coverage for is WiMax Our phone does not have a WiMax antenna. So were stuck waiting for LTE 4G to come to our area.
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Yes, was wondering what the catch was! But one more question, what does an antenna have to make a difference in getting wimax vs lte?
Isnt what residual in the board tell it either to receive of send certain waves, etc etc. Is the antenna kryptonite vs coal in wimax phones? Love to Know and Learn, if you catch my drift....so dont take hatefully. Dont know the answer to the question unless the questions have all been answered
Is there a video and explanation of what is in a siii sprint video somewhere?
My wife and I are considering taking our tmobile phones over to AT&T. There both unlocked... Note 2 & sg3. Question I have is would I have to flash AT&T modems and roms to be able to fully utilize the new network? Just don't want to end up with bricks. AT&T already told me both devices unlocked will work fine on the network.
Wat I'm asking is if I can utilize the lte on the t-889 if I put it on AT&T? I found a bunch of threads with mixed responses.
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My wife and I are considering taking our tmobile phones over to AT&T. There both unlocked... Note 2 & sg3. Question I have is would I have to flash AT&T modems and roms to be able to fully utilize the new network? Just don't want to end up with bricks. AT&T already told me both devices unlocked will work fine on the network.
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It should work fine but the only problem is you wont have LTE
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It should work fine but the only problem is you wont have LTE
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Why's that? AT&T says I will be able to use lte since my area has it. If not I probably won't do this. As I've said I've read mixed responses. Could I flash AT&T radios to utilize it?
It will give you weak service because att and t mobile run on different bands which is hardware related not software
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Android The Greek said:
It will give you weak service because att and t mobile run on different bands which is hardware related not software
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I dunno about that as many said everything works but LTE. I have also read a few that says they have LTE enabled. That's what's confusing. I may go to AT&T tomorrow and have them test a sim before I decide to switch. I assume if I change to AT&T apn ill get better 4g speed at least. The limitation your speaking to its a locked radio for the t-889 that prevents LTE from being enabled currently.
I can't quickly tell, but if it has LTE support on band 17 (700MHz) then it will work. It's a T-Mobile phone so it has support on band 4 which AT&T only uses for a very small part of its LTE network.
Like you said the radio it comes with might be locked to not allow LTE. If you can flash an AT&T radio without issue then you'd be able to see if it works.
If I were to guess I'd say it would have the right band since it's basically the same phone that AT&T sells.
Does it at least get hspa+ and 3G? I can wait for lte.
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Does it at least get hspa+ and 3G? I can wait for lte.
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It should. Just put an AT&T SIM in and see.
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It should. Just put an AT&T SIM in and see.
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I'll be going to AT&T tomorrow to test before I switch carriers.
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Why's that? AT&T says I will be able to use lte since my area has it. If not I probably won't do this. As I've said I've read mixed responses. Could I flash AT&T radios to utilize it?
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The AT&T rep you spoke to definitely isnt informed on the hardware issue.
If you are switching over you should just sell those two phones you have and just buy new ones since its new activation Im sure you can get a good price on the phones
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The AT&T rep you spoke to definitely isnt informed on the hardware issue.
If you are switching over you should just sell those two phones you have and just buy new ones since its new activation Im sure you can get a good price on the phones
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From what I understand its not hardware, it's because of a radio limitation currently. Lte isn't enabled yet on the t-889. That's why I asked if I could flash a AT&T radio. As long as I get 4g and 3G ill switch. The whole point was to save $$ on buying new devices.
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From what I understand its not hardware, it's because of a radio limitation currently. Lte isn't enabled yet on the t-889. That's why I asked if I could flash a AT&T radio. As long as I get 4g and 3G ill switch. The whole point was to save $$ on buying new devices.
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Well please understand it's hardware. Been that way forever
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brandonarev said:
Well please understand it's hardware. Been that way forever
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Well as long as I get 3G and decent hspa+ speeds ill be happy. I'll be getting the s4 anyways when it comes out. I don't have lte anyways with tmobile lol.