So by far best phone on sprint is the et4g. Seeing sprint is turning to lte will the et4g be compatible to lte?
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Nope, the Epic Touch won't support LTE. It only supports WiMAX.
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No, and Sprint's turning off WiMax (what the E4GT, Evo, Evo 3D, Photon, and all Sprint 4G phones) use around 2015. I hate thinking about it but by then we'll be on to the SGS5.
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I was just at a CORPORATE Sprint store getting my poor OG Epic repaired. While I was waiting, I asked about the Galaxy Nexus. I was told that the EPIC 4G TOUCH needed a firmware update, and it could then be used on the new LTE network by a Sprint salesperson in the store. Sounds official to me!!
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Jefe1 said:
I was just at a CORPORATE Sprint store getting my poor OG Epic repaired. While I was waiting, I asked about the Galaxy Nexus. I was told that the EPIC 4G TOUCH needed a firmware update, and it could then be used on the new LTE network by a Sprint salesperson in the store. Sounds official to me!!
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I have asked a few of the sales reps and customer service people about this. They say that it is not going to be able to use the LTE service, and that it would need new hardware. And if I'm not mistaken, The wimax service that we currently use is from another company that sprint is with. So i'm not real sure how this will play out, but it is definitely not going to be able to use the LTE service.
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I was just at a CORPORATE Sprint store getting my poor OG Epic repaired. While I was waiting, I asked about the Galaxy Nexus. I was told that the EPIC 4G TOUCH needed a firmware update, and it could then be used on the new LTE network by a Sprint salesperson in the store. Sounds official to me!!
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Note to you.....you are gullible....the hardware will not even sniff a lte signal.....thus would be like saying with a firmware upgrade your dvd player will play bluray..... The first CPU that Samsung has that can handle lte is the one going in the galaxy 3 ....that is why every galaxy 2 that had lte was omap or snapdragon....the CPU in our phone is incompatible
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Get off my ass dude... What about Samsung's Droid Charge. There, your credibility is already shot!
Anyway, apparently there is an inactive 800 Mhz radio in the E4GT. Rumor has it is that is the way it can be accomplished. It remains to be seen, but remember the Motorola Xoom? Same principle I guess...
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Get off my ass dude... What about Samsung's Droid Charge. There, your credibility is already shot!
Anyway, apparently there is an inactive 800 Mhz radio in the E4GT. Rumor has it is that is the way it can be accomplished. It remains to be seen, but remember the Motorola Xoom? Same principle I guess...
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A) The Droid Charge doesn't have an Exynos processor in it like the Galaxy S II
B) The Exynos does NOT do LTE, which is why the Skyrocket and AT&T Galaxy Note have Snapdragon S3s in them, not Exynos.
C) He's right. You're not going to magically get LTE with a WiMax radio or even the built in CDMA radio. It doesn't matter if LTE is going to be transmitted on that frequency; the phone's modem won't understand what LTE is.
D) The Xoom actually had it's original radio REPLACED by Motorola, in addition to a software update. You had to send your Xoom to Motorola for them to physically open it up and add/replace the LTE radio.
E) It requires a SIM card, which the E4GT doesn't have a slot for.
Done.
IRead and understand that 800 mhz radio is cdma like the evo 3d for voice and 3g that is it ...when they decommission the iden frequencies they may put voice on the frequencies but there its no chance of lte on this phone .....none .... go read the other 4 threads already about this ....
And i will not lump all sprint employees in the same boat but 95 % of sprint employees are legally brain dead..... Just a joke ... But they know nothing about phones or the network...you will get the correct info here way before a sprint employee.... But some regional managers and such actually have some info but salesmen etc at stores even customer service have no clue
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IRead and understand that 800 mhz radio is cdma like the evo 3d for voice and 3g that is it ...when they decommission the iden frequencies they may put voice on the frequencies but there its no chance of lte on this phone .....none .... go read the other 4 threads already about this ....
And i will not lump all sprint employees in the same boat but 95 % of sprint employees are legally brain dead..... Just a joke ... But they know nothing about phones or the network...you will get the correct info here way before a sprint employee.... But some regional managers and such actually have some info but salesmen etc at stores even customer service have no clue
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I was a technician in a Sprint store and I agree with the bolded statement 100%.
And you're right about no chance of LTE on any current Sprint phone.
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A) The Droid Charge doesn't have an Exynos processor in it like the Galaxy S II
B) The Exynos does NOT do LTE, which is why the Skyrocket and AT&T Galaxy Note have Snapdragon S3s in them, not Exynos.
C) He's right. You're not going to magically get LTE with a WiMax radio or even the built in CDMA radio. It doesn't matter if LTE is going to be transmitted on that frequency; the phone's modem won't understand what LTE is.
D) The Xoom actually had it's original radio REPLACED by Motorola, in addition to a software update. You had to send your Xoom to Motorola for them to physically open it up and add/replace the LTE radio.
E) It requires a SIM card, which the E4GT doesn't have a slot for.
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The Photon has an LTE modem installed, it will be able to work on the lte setup. You lose, research before you speak.
Guys, ALL 4g devices will work just not on 4g LTE network. They just don't download at LTE speeds. You gotta remember that LTE is still a 4g based network. So, we are talking about downloading at 5mb/s or 10mb/s. At those speeds, it really doesn't matter unless you are trying to stream 5 porns in high quality at once lol. Same thing as 1x/2g still working but 3g is preferred.
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The Photon has an LTE modem installed, it will be able to work on the lte setup. You lose, research before you speak.
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Actually you lose because the Photon has both the WiMax and the LTE radios built in the LTE just isnt activated...
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The Photon has an LTE modem installed, it will be able to work on the lte setup. You lose, research before you speak.
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The Photon most definitely does NOT have an LTE modem installed. I don't know where you think you got your info. It has the bece3502 chipset which is WiMax ONLY. On top of that, if you read the FCC filings it has only passed for use with WiMax, not LTE. So YOU lose, and you are the one who should research before you speak. ROFL
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The Photon has an LTE modem installed, it will be able to work on the lte setup. You lose, research before you speak.
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I thanked you by mistake, but I just wanted you to know, I was a technician at Sprint...I have all the research I need. My job was to open up and repair phones. The Photon does not have an LTE modem. Please show me where you read that it does. And please no, XDA threads with speculation about it. I want solid evidence, like an official spec sheet that says so.
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I thanked you by mistake, but I just wanted you to know, I was a technician at Sprint...I have all the research I need. My job was to open up and repair phones. The Photon does not have an LTE modem. Please show me where you read that it does. And please no, XDA threads with speculation about it. I want solid evidence, like an official spec sheet that says so.
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This is the same misconception as the epic touch and evo3d just because they were made to work on the 800 mhz frequency...they think the cdma radio will pick up lte signal.... Its actually really funny how they argue like they really know
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Product F(RED) said:
I thanked you by mistake, but I just wanted you to know, I was a technician at Sprint...I have all the research I need. My job was to open up and repair phones. The Photon does not have an LTE modem. Please show me where you read that it does. And please no, XDA threads with speculation about it. I want solid evidence, like an official spec sheet that says so.
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Plug it in people. Sprint may not update the firmware to allow it, but it does have one. You girls can fight about whatever you want, I know the truth, and it doesn't matter if you think it will or not, I was just giving people the correct info. Flame me or whatever, I know what I see, and I know what is in the photon. If you in fact did take photons apart then you would know as well. This has already been discussed in many other threads so I will stop beating the horse. Peace.
All this talk about the photon and I bet not one of you actually owned one. lol
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This is the same misconception as the epic touch and evo3d just because they were made to work on the 800 mhz frequency...they think the cdma radio will pick up lte signal.... Its actually really funny how they argue like they really know
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Its amazing the people they let in these forums. I'm glad you like to tell people what they think, good stuff. I never once said anything about the cdma modem working as an lte modem. But hey you can create statements however you want.
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Plug it in people. Sprint may not update the firmware to allow it, but it does have one. You girls can fight about whatever you want, I know the truth, and it doesn't matter if you think it will or not, I was just giving people the correct info. Flame me or whatever, I know what I see, and I know what is in the photon. If you in fact did take photons apart then you would know as well. This has already been discussed in many other threads so I will stop beating the horse. Peace.
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The LTE modem is left over from the Verizon Bionic. The hardware simply isn't there.
I can install AMD GPU drivers on my computer all I want.... but it won't give me the hardware.
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Note to you.....you are gullible....the hardware will not even sniff a lte signal.....thus would be like saying with a firmware upgrade your dvd player will play bluray..... The first CPU that Samsung has that can handle lte is the one going in the galaxy 3 ....that is why every galaxy 2 that had lte was omap or snapdragon....the CPU in our phone is incompatible
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You mean the Galaxy Nexus...
all of you are so silly! of COURSE our etouch will work with lte! why would sprint release a device designed for a specific technology, and then piss on the ENTIRE customer base of wimax owners by not only HALTING the development of wimax, but then switching to a completely diff technology our device would NEVER have the capability of working with?
common sense...
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kind of... http://www.phonearena.com/news/Japa...h-that-all-too-rare-support-for-WiMAX_id25933
sprint's ceo said, they have no more plans for wimax enabled phones. i don't really get it, since the lightsquare's lte is no go for sprint. so wouldn't that make sprint use wimax a little bit longer?
I kind of regret getting this phone now that sprint is ditching wimax... "4g" in my area is slow and will never get any better now. don't think sprint will put out any new wimax phones either.
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ahh i need that! id put it on sprint and use it till 2015
It's GSM...calm down
Is it a snap draggon cpu? If so our phones still better
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Korey_Nicholson said:
It's GSM...calm down
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KDDI is CDMA, no? everywhere i've looked listed this phone as CDMA.
And WiMAX is on same frequency as Clear so WiMax would work even if it were GSM.
shhh...
I really hope Samsung doesn't start putting 16x9 displays in all their new phones.
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KDDI is CDMA, no? everywhere i've looked listed this phone as CDMA.
And WiMAX is on same frequency as Clear so WiMax would work even if it were GSM.
shhh...
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The article says it's gsm and wimax which is a rare combination
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To the post about regretting getting this phone. It will be a while before you see LTE anyways so don't worry. Enjoy the time you have while it last.
On my Epic mobile phone.
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The article says it's gsm and wimax which is a rare combination
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Don't believe everything you read
KDDI uses CDMA 1X WIN and they have multiple phones that also feature WiMax.
The CDMA side of things may or may not work.. I've never had cdma 1x win h/w to see if its backwards compatible with what Sprint uses. KDDI's WiMax network runs on 2.6ghz.. same as Clearwire. So the device could at minimum run on our WiMax and Wifi networks for web browsing, sms over data w/ google voice and sip calling.
Is it practical to get this phone and use it on Sprint? No. Is it technically possible? Yes? Would it be cool to do? Yes.
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Don't believe everything you read
KDDI uses CDMA 1X WIN and they have multiple phones that also feature WiMax.
The CDMA side of things may or may not work.. I've never had cdma 1x win h/w to see if its backwards compatible with what Sprint uses. KDDI's WiMax network runs on 2.6ghz.. same as Clearwire. So the device could at minimum run on our WiMax and Wifi networks for web browsing, sms over data w/ google voice and sip calling.
Is it practical to get this phone and use it on Sprint? No. Is it technically possible? Yes? Would it be cool to do? Yes.
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True, true
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I really hope Samsung doesn't start putting 16x9 displays in all their new phones.
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+1
Thats one on the reasons I bailed on the Evo 3D
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Don't believe everything you read
KDDI uses CDMA 1X WIN and they have multiple phones that also feature WiMax.
The CDMA side of things may or may not work.. I've never had cdma 1x win h/w to see if its backwards compatible with what Sprint uses. KDDI's WiMax network runs on 2.6ghz.. same as Clearwire. So the device could at minimum run on our WiMax and Wifi networks for web browsing, sms over data w/ google voice and sip calling.
Is it practical to get this phone and use it on Sprint? No. Is it technically possible? Yes? Would it be cool to do? Yes.
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I'm inclined not to believe you.
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I'm inclined not to believe you.
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have a look at their phones... they're actually all(or mostly) dual cdma/gsm devices. http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/index.html#seihinList3
and when you view wimax spec sheets of any of the models.. they all report 2.6ghz WiMax... same as ours. http://juggly.cn/archives/41059.html
"Available frequencies: CDMA (Band / 2GHz new 800MHz band), WiMAX 2.6GHz"
Japan uses cdma all the time.. why would you be inclined not to believe anyone who makes an educated statement without researching it yourself? im inclined to consider you a fool...
btw autoprime is right.. its cdma.
here is the evo they have..
http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/ichiran/smartphone/isw11ht/index.html
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sprint's ceo said, they have no more plans for wimax enabled phones. i don't really get it, since the lightsquare's lte is no go for sprint. so wouldn't that make sprint use wimax a little bit longer?
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Sprint is building their LTE network SEPARATE from Lightsquared or Clear. The contract with Lightsquared was to use Sprints towers to bounce off of.
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have a look at their phones... they're actually all(or mostly) dual cdma/gsm devices. http://www.au.kddi.com/english/seihin/index.html#seihinList3
and when you view wimax spec sheets of any of the models.. they all report 2.6ghz WiMax... same as ours. http://juggly.cn/archives/41059.html
"Available frequencies: CDMA (Band / 2GHz new 800MHz band), WiMAX 2.6GHz"
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u said don't believe everything you read...I just took your advice.
There is actually a 5" Galaxy Player coming out. I took some video at CES (trying to get it to qbking) that almost got me thrown out. I think it had a 3.2 megapixel front camera. I have to review my sketchy video again...I was getting yelled at for going live on UStream ...lol...love my phone
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There is actually a 5" Galaxy Player coming out. I took some video at CES (trying to get it to qbking) that almost got me thrown out. I think it had a 3.2 megapixel front camera. I have to review my sketchy video again...I was getting yelled at for going live on UStream ...lol...love my phone
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haha nice! those are the mp3 players? so only wifi built in?
So would Sprint's upgrade to LTE render Epic 4G touch useless for 4G?
Yes... But that point is so far in the future, you'll have a newer phone by then....
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Yes... But that point is so far in the future, you'll have a newer phone by then....
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Nope, it doesn't.
Sprint has a deal and contract to have WiMAX (which is the 4G flavor the Epic Touch is running), till sometime in 2015 I believe.
I believe WiMax will be alive for at least a couple of years because full roll out of LTE is going to take time. Someone can correct me if I am wrong here but I think WiMax will certainly be here for the 2 years if you bought the phone on contract
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There are numerous threads about this already please use the search engine... And Google works great also
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Nope, it doesn't.
Sprint has a deal and contract to have WiMAX (which is the 4G flavor the Epic Touch is running), till sometime in 2015 I believe.
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Phew I was like now i'm like
It renders 4G for me useless for the most part. As I live in a city with no WiMax And the odds of ever getting it are about zero now. Oh well... I just hope we get some LTE love before the next great thing is out. But I'm sure I'll be loving my E4GT for least a year or 2 still.
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Nope, it doesn't.
Sprint has a deal and contract to have WiMAX (which is the 4G flavor the Epic Touch is running), till sometime in 2015 I believe.
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Hence, so far in the future that the LTE network is fully rolled out and the Wimax network shut off which will be more than likely, quite past 2015, yes, at that point, the epic 4G touch will be USELESS on the Wimax network. It can't be upgraded to LTE and at that point, it'll be well past it's useful life as a "high end device" anyway, so, won't matter much.
To the OP, by the time you need to worry, you won't have this phone anyway.
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Nope, it doesn't.
Sprint has a deal and contract to have WiMAX (which is the 4G flavor the Epic Touch is running), till sometime in 2015 I believe.
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+ 1 I was going to say that
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Does anyone know why Sprint went with Wimax to begin with? Was it so they could get it up faster and claim to be the first 4g carrier? Or was it sort of like when HD DVD and Blurays came out... weren't sure which was going to be better?
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Does anyone know why Sprint went with Wimax to begin with? Was it so they could get it up faster and claim to be the first 4g carrier? Or was it sort of like when HD DVD and Blurays came out... weren't sure which was going to be better?
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Yes, they wanted to be the first 4G network and Wimax was the easiest to deploy quickly.
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When sprint chose wimax it was definitely the front runner. It had pretty good financial backing from Google and intel. The problem is that it was never designed to be a mobile technology, it was merely adapted for that purpose. There was a revision (802.16m) that would have given it some legs to compete with lte from a power consumption and mobility standpoint but because Sprint is the only carrier that picked it up, all of the hardware makers stopped investing in mobile aspects of the technology. Effectively that makes it impossible to continue, without the radios being refined wimax would continue to be at a disadvantage to lte in the phone arena.
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Sprint also needed to start doing something with its 2.5 GHz spectrum. Those licenses had coverage conditions that the FCC could invoke to take the spectrum from Sprint to sell or give to another entity that would use it. At the time, LTE was not a ready for commercial deployment, but WiMax was.
Question to anyone I called sprint and asked about the Lte roll out dates of course there is not much of a schedule to it if any but they said we have Lte capable devices out so I said if I purchase a lte capable device will I be without 4g until lte reaches my area they said no the lte devices can run wimax and lte so if that is the case why can't our epic touch run lte when it becomes available in our area.I think they are full of sh!t and just saying that to get us to buy a new lte phone.Unless the new phones will have hardware in them that allows them to run to different types of technology
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I guess it's possible that new phones could have hardware that works with LTE and WiMax, but I can't confirm this. I agree that the person you spoke with could be feeding you BS. It's been my experience that Sprint is a very dysfunctional company. I wouldn't trust anything they say that's not in writing!
As far as the E4GT being able to use LTE, I think it's lacking the hardware to do so. Maybe someone with more knowledge on LTE can comment.
There is no phone with wimax and lte .....none ....there is a pc card that will have both but no phone will be able to get wimax and lte ....they are 2 different radios
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Fact is the Epic 4G Touch, can not and will not run on LTE - EVER. The Exynos processor is not LTE compatible, therefor the Skyrocket variants both have Snapdragons in them.
As for other phones, it would be theoretically possible to build a phone with both radios but that would be dumb, because space in the phone is tight to begin with, plus it would suck on the batter twice as much. I believe there is a rumor that the Photon may have both in it, but I really doubt it, and I also really doubt that any new LTE phones would have "old" WiMax radios built into them.
Sprint told me that our epic 4g touch will work on lte.... I know this not to be true..... Just remember that those wonderful customer service reps do not spend the time researching our devices like we do... So they are very mis informed
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Fact is the Epic 4G Touch, can not and will not run on LTE - EVER. The Exynos processor is not LTE compatible, therefor the Skyrocket variants both have Snapdragons in them.
As for other phones, it would be theoretically possible to build a phone with both radios but that would be dumb, because space in the phone is tight to begin with, plus it would suck on the batter twice as much. I believe there is a rumor that the Photon may have both in it, but I really doubt it, and I also really doubt that any new LTE phones would have "old" WiMax radios built into them.
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http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/24/motorola-photon-q-lte-rumored-to-come-to-sprint-this-year/
Looks like there will be a new Photon that will have lte capability. The present one probably does not.
jonapunk said:
Sprint told me that our epic 4g touch will work on lte.... I know this not to be true..... Just remember that those wonderful customer service reps do not spend the time researching our devices like we do... So they are very mis informed
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I know they talk to you like your dumb I called in to sprint about another issue and I'm due for an upgrade do they were telling me about the new lte phones
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Epix4G said:
There is no phone with wimax and lte .....none ....there is a pc card that will have both but no phone will be able to get wimax and lte ....they are 2 different radios
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I pretty much knew that but hey they want us to sign for 2 more years
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It's pretty dumb that they got three different radios going at the same time they need to have more LTE coverage before they made the phone and just start closing WiMAX customers
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There is ONE Sprint device that can run EV-DO, LTE, and WiMax, and that is their upcoming hotspot. That's it. I was a technician at Sprint, and to sum it up like the other guys said, it is impossible for WiMax devices to pick up LTE, and also even if you implemented an LTE modem into the Epic 4G Touch, Exynos wouldn't work with it. Not even the new generation of Exynos processors does LTE, so prepare to be disappointed when the Sprint S3 has a Snapdragon S4 (which isn't bad). I think this is gonna be like OG Evo vs OG Epic, where the Evo 4G LTE is gonna win.
Me personally? I just got my Galaxy Nexus (Sprint version of course). Trying development vs power this time. I don't like the route HTC is going with bootloader unlocks that aren't real unlocks. Plus I only paid $400 for this baby
Once LTE service his your area, and BTW, San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston are all in the process now of roll out, you will still have service with 4G, but no you will not get LTE service, the performance difference is noticeable, but not enough to run out and buy a new phone over. Those who still have dinosaurs that do not have 4G capability, as well as crapPhone owners well lose service as 3G is phased out, hence the coming crapPhone 5 which is an LTE phone. E4GT well not be LTE compatible, however GS3 IS an LTE phone with the superior quad core Exynos processor that has been fixed to support LTE and benchmarked higher than any other phone currently available or set for release soon. So, if you are thinking of upgrading to be LTE ready when it happens, research your phone and it's stats, in the end, only you can decide which phone is best for you and your needs, study the processors for phones you are considering, check benchmark scores, and ask people you see with those phones their opinion...in the end your choice can't be wrong if it meets your needs
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Product F(RED) said:
There is ONE Sprint device that can run EV-DO, LTE, and WiMax, and that is their upcoming hotspot. That's it. I was a technician at Sprint, and to sum it up like the other guys said, it is impossible for WiMax devices to pick up LTE, and also even if you implemented an LTE modem into the Epic 4G Touch, Exynos wouldn't work with it. Not even the new generation of Exynos processors does LTE, so prepare to be disappointed when the Sprint S3 has a Snapdragon S4 (which isn't bad). I think this is gonna be like OG Evo vs OG Epic, where the Evo 4G LTE is gonna win.
Me personally? I just got my Galaxy Nexus (Sprint version of course). Trying development vs power this time. I don't like the route HTC is going with bootloader unlocks that aren't real unlocks. Plus I only paid $400 for this baby
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Actually, aside from being CDMA, the the Sprint version was the best. I has a 4.5 inch screen and notification light.
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"all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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And ATT, and Tmobile. I will go ahead and say I don't think Verizon will get the S3.
I'm interested to see how long it takes HTC to pull that same weight with carriers.
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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I agree 100% thanks for this detailed reply
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thirdcoastraised said:
Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Do you have a source? I'm not trying to call you out or anything, I would just like to read about it some.
Pretty sure our GS3 will get the s4 dual core chip as Verizon's is has already been benchmarked with the qualcomm chip. Exynos quad is only compatible with Korea's lte atm. The LG eclipse beast will have a quad core s4 with 2gb of ram in quarter 4. Research peoples.
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Pretty sure our GS3 will get the s4 dual core chip as Verizon's is has already been benchmarked with the qualcomm chip. Exynos quad is only compatible with Korea's lte atm. The LG eclipse beast will have a quad core s4 with 2gb of ram in quarter 4. Research peoples.
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I thought that too but then I read that Canada's networks are getting the Quad Exynos. Samsung even demonstrated it supposedly.
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I thought that too but then I read that Canada's networks are getting the Quad Exynos. Samsung even demonstrated it supposedly.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...n-benchmark-looks-again-like-a-snapdragon-s4/
Okay I did find this..
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-canada-roundup-probable-price-availability-and-release-dates-82184/
but we probably won't be that lucky.
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Actually, aside from being CDMA, the the Sprint version was the best. I has a 4.5 inch screen and notification light.
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I the S3 is for me.
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I upgraded from the ET4G which has WiMax 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under Wimax.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g WiMAX, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to WiMAX 4g. I suppose WiMAX 4g will trashed once LTE rolls out and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have WiMAX speeds. The phone will NOT pick up WiMAX 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(
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I upgraded from the ET4G which has standard 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under 4g.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to standard 4g. I supposed 4g will trashed once LTE rolls aout and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have standard 4g speeds. The phone will NOT pick up 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(
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You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?
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You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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Very true, I was just hoping to sell it for $200 and make some money back off the the beastly Note 2 price (on contract when purchased). Its so sad, I'm so used to looking at the 720p screen, it makes the E4GT look so much like a girly phone. =) I read some articles on how fast the 4g LTE should be coming out with wider coverage, I guess LTE is supposed to cover just about everywhere that has 3G coverage. Just a matter of time.Since the Optimus G and the Note 2 are being released, they are pushing LTE as "quick as they can" supposedly.
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woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?
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I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.
A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.
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A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.
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Thats why I used the words 'I ASSUMED' It makes sense to have WiMAX built in. A normal person would assume it would hence the posting. Just a warning thread.
You wouldn't think to check if, 4G would work on a 4G LTE phone.
Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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randy2 said:
Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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Obviously my fault with not keeping up with tech specs. I stayed on T-mobile after switching from Sprint just phone their line of phones and recently came back to Sprint. GSM is alot more simple.
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I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.
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Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.
yankees177 said:
Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.
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Yes, WiMAX was a leach! At least the specs for battery life are close to 3g battery life. Something i can look forward to.
Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.
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Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.
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I was thinking about correcting that but i figure people got the idea.... ill go ahead and change that...
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO
Jocelyn said:
I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO
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Ah, oh well. I should have kept up with the High speed specs of LTE and WiMAX. I just went out and bought the lastest and greatest. I'm your typical "USER". I did some searching. obviously AFTER the fact and it seems I'm not the only one which make me feel a bit better about getting flamed.
It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
Enjoy your new toy, I'm jealous but I'm holding off till development is further along.
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This is coming from a 4 year XDA vet? Really? Wow...
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It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
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Duh
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Duh
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Lol! Just gonna leave leave the thread open to how much my rectum can take...
T-mobile is pretty evil in my opinion. The galaxy s3 should get the liability to be able to connect to LTE on their network. It isn't fair that they removed LTE capability via a software update. Proof; appleandroidguide on YouTube, watch the first video and you will see
I buy my phones based on what they can do the day I buy them, not what may happen in the future. It would be nice to have the LTE option but I never really expected it despite the promises made by sales staff and customer service. I will go buy a full blown LTE phone if I feel the need.
Sorry but your wrong, the only phone T-Mobile has for sale that has the LTE capabilities is the Note II because its exactly the same as the AT&T version. If you open it up you will find out that the phone may have an LTE radio but no antenna, like the Nexus 4. And really you should but your phone on what you can do now, not down the road.
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Another one of these threads? Really?
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Thetenthdr said:
Another one of these threads? Really?
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Yup. Loan him your Tardis so he can go back in time to unbuy the T-mobile Galaxy S3.
Omg my porn loads instantly on hspa, how much faster can lte really be? By the time lte gets to the smaller markets most of us will have moved on anyway
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My Netflix and games and downloads and everything run just fine on HSDPA+ and along with the lte upgrade, HSDPA+ will also receive an upgrade. I'd rather keep my H+ phone which will hey better battery life than LTE....
You gotta ask yourself... Do you really need it?
And if you do ( for reasons such as deeper penetration into buildings so you actually get 4g where you live or work or whatever..not just for faster 4g) then sell your s3 and buy an lte s3 or s4.
Your s3 was launched a year ago..that's a long time in technology. Get over it.
Its like buying a new car then complaining a year later that the newer model has more horsepower and better mpg.
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Omg my porn loads instantly on hspa, how much faster can lte really be? By the time lte gets to the smaller markets most of us will have moved on anyway
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Its more about coverage. Eff ya porn
??Really??
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Yudichh said:
T-mobile is pretty evil in my opinion. The galaxy s3 should get the liability to be able to connect to LTE on their network. It isn't fair that they removed LTE capability via a software update. Proof; appleandroidguide on YouTube, watch the first video and you will see
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Okay how is it a scam? If you bought the phone when it came out(1yr ago) Tmobile wasn't even hinting at lte. You bought the phone with an understanding of what it was capable of. Most people aren't xda people. They don't go on forums and check out detailed specs sheets and breakdowns inquiring about possibilities of a phones hardware. Sometimes I think its a curse to have such knowledge as we know more than the Tmobile reps or any carrier reps do. The xda community is a minority. They aren't going to change anything for us. They know if people want stuff bad enough they will either leave, pay , or stay where they are at. Tmobile will not bend for you or anyone. You know how hard it was for me to get credit from them for something they did (680++$$) ??? Over a week on the phone.
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Just Ranting but here !!
Come on guys Really ? Technogoloy changes so fast these days no and keep up unless you have deep pockets filled with money and still while your standing there while to pay for it a something newer faster nicer sweeter will come a few days after you buy it. This is the name of technology sales my friends. I get HSDPA+ . Sprint pushes out Samsung S3 to people telling them “ Oh it 4G and LTE soon” in the NYC area but out side of the 2-5 miles you may get 3G that’s is it sometimes and another times crap. These carriers for there not for you but for your $$$$. So that’s why I buy my T-mobile phone based on what they can do and for how long. The very fact that you can pull out the sim card and just drop it in a other T-mobile just is a plus. Is this not why we are here because after we Root our phone and we come here for what they don’t give us?
You may enjoy the speed now but think about internetwork operability and the plans to launch voice over LTE via VoIP-based technology and its a no brainer that its something you want.
Keep in mind, it may take entirely new radio technology to take advantage of VoLTE so buying an LTE phone may already be outdated by this year which, besides economic factors, is why I'm waiting to see what happens in 3Q and 4Q
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If I remember correctly, the T999 gs3 doesn't even have an LTE chip in the phone. That's what tmobile is releasing the T999L that INCLUDES the LTE radio. The OP is an idiot, and if idiots dont wanna take the time to research and learn about stuff, then they deserve every bad thing that happens.
It does have the lte chip but it isn't activated and won't be because they went a different way with lte bands.
http://m.computerworld.com/s/articl...phones_won_t_work_with_T_Mobile_s_LTE_network
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I'm with Videotron carrier in Canada, I have the T999v (v only for videotron, stupid ahah) and I have a fully working LTE network. Our device have the same hardware so T999 IS compatible LTE only T-Mobile popping bad excuse to dont offert it.
I guess I don't understand what the fuss is. When this phone came out for Tmo LTE was not even confirmed. Knowing this, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in terms of what has been said about this phone from either Tmo or Samsung about this phone having lte capabilities, there is no scam. We can wish that it was built with the compatible hardware, but the bottom line is that things could be worse, we could be stuck on sprint...
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Steve5400 said:
I guess I don't understand what the fuss is. When this phone came out for Tmo LTE was not even confirmed. Knowing this, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in terms of what has been said about this phone from either Tmo or Samsung about this phone having lte capabilities, there is no scam. We can wish that it was built with the compatible hardware, but the bottom line is that things could be worse, we could be stuck on sprint...
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where I would disagree is in your statement about nothing has changed. I too was told multiple times before buying the phone towards the end of the year that it was lte ready and would get it once it came out.
The phone has an LTE amplifier for 700mhz and 1700mhz bands but no modem is mentioned. I would be curious to see a teardown of the V model... Its supposed to be identical to T-Mobile from what I understand...
So it has the lte radio but not the correct one? I been reading different threads on this figuring out if i was gonna get one but don't know if i want to. What lte bands does TMobile use
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The phone has an LTE amplifier for 700mhz and 1700mhz bands but no modem is mentioned. I would be curious to see a teardown of the V model... Its supposed to be identical to T-Mobile from what I understand...
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Yes, at least they say me that but i can confirm that i've already had and 27 mbts bench on Speed test on my S3