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[REQ] Touchwiz on Galaxy Nexus

Hi.Is there something possible to make touchwiz run on Samsung Galaxy Nexus?An apk or something.Thx

just one question! WHY??? touchwiz ist absolutly gay! get a sgs2 if you want that

Wow. I wasn't sure a bad question could get worse but your ignorant response managed to do it.
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Touchwiz is impossible to port over to an AOSP based phone. TouchWiz is a seperate piece of software on the top of Android developed specifically for Samsung Software. Just because the GNexus is a Samsung phone doesn't mean Samsung's specified software will be on it.
Just isn't possible.

I think I saw a thread regarding this over at rootzwiki, just try using the search function either there or over here at XDA. As far as I know, the idea hasn't progressed far. To the people undermining this post, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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akellar said:
Wow. I wasn't sure a bad question could get worse but your ignorant response managed to do it.
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I wouldn't call their response ignorant .. more surprised then anything since the SGII has better specs then the Gnex and is slated to get ICS w/ TouchWiz anyway. Why most bought a Gnex was to have a stock as a rock phone with no waiting on vendor updates after their 3rd party UI is bolted on.
So yeah .. why would you want to sully your ICS stock phone with TouchWiz? You might give the MIUI ICS rom a shot .. it's kind of iPhone/Touchwizy.

aergern said:
I wouldn't call their response ignorant .. more surprised then anything since the SGII has better specs then the Gnex and is slated to get ICS w/ TouchWiz anyway. Why most bought a Gnex was to have a stock as a rock phone with no waiting on vendor updates after their 3rd party UI is bolted on.
So yeah .. why would you want to sully your ICS stock phone with TouchWiz? You might give the MIUI ICS rom a shot .. it's kind of iPhone/Touchwizy.
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I class TouchWiz as bloatware.

Nitroz said:
I class TouchWiz as bloatware.
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I class it as unneeded as ICS's UI rocks.

I was referring to the ignorant use of 'gay'. If someone wants to waste a great phone with tw, more power to them.
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this thread is pure win

Probably safe to say there's low interest in porting it over. At the very earliest it won't happen until Samsung releases an ICS + Touchwiz update or phone that someone can backport.

Why would anyone want that? No disrespect mate, but the mind boggles.
You really want those horrible icons, cartoon fonts, and Windows 3.1 era buttons instead of the silky, understated sophistication of ICS? If you just got your Nexus, just spend a few weeks with it and I guarantee that you won't want anything else.
On the other hand, if you do really want it, trade your phone for a Galaxy S2.
I am just sayin', because I don't see anyone porting TWiz (or Sense, or Blur) to the GNexus. See how all the custom ROMs remain true to the ICS interface.

ho ho ho
samsung should read this thread, it might make them think about touch-wiz and its terrible looks, i had touch wiz on my mk1 galaxy tab... for 3 hours! then i flashed a new rom
its just like a thread i saw years ago on the G1 forum where someone asked if anyone was working on porting WM6.5 to the G1 - you can guess how that went down.
anyhow - for anyone who does want the touch wiz look why not install miui and use a theme, okay so there is one cool feature on touch-wiz.. the CLOCK it is actually a very nice clock. Google need to do more with widgets and apps for android.. i know they could do such a good job if only they thought about adding a bit more to the experience.
anyways - i think if cm9 can be ported to the sgs2 and if htc sense ui can be ported to the g1 theres no reason touchwiz cant be ported to the GalNex but you would need a bunch of folks who want it first !!
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Hell no.
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almost puked at the idea of twiz on a nexus
best of luck on your endeavor though

twistkill said:
almost puked at the idea of twiz on a nexus
best of luck on your endeavor though
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Its almost as worse as someone asking to port HTC Sense over...I mean, WHY!

If you download Mediafire then search for 'Samsunghome.apk' then download it. also if you are running a custom rom that supports themes e.g CM7 you can download Touchwizzed-CM7 of the Market to co-aside with it. Simples!

I created a thread about this topic earlier and just as you would expect, people trashed it as well. It's such a shame so many of these Nexus owners are AOSP freaks. There are many great UI's out there that people like and to call any of them "gay" or "trash" is just blatantly ignorant. Unfortunately, I've learned that a good portion of XDA members are very disrespectful. Tread lightly OP.

open1your1eyes0 said:
I created a thread about this topic earlier and just as you would expect, people trashed it as well. It's such a shame so many of these Nexus owners are AOSP freaks. There are many great UI's out there that people like and to call any of them "gay" or "trash" is just blatantly ignorant. Unfortunately, I've learned that a good portion of XDA members are very disrespectful. Tread lightly OP.
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Most people buy a Nexus so we won't have to deal with the horrible skins that manufacturers force down our throats. They're tacky and slow down the whole OS. There's nothing "ignorant" about wanting our open source phones to be completely open and clean.
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TheBiles said:
Most people buy a Nexus so we won't have to deal with the horrible skins that manufacturers force down our throats. They're tacky and slow down the whole OS. There's nothing "ignorant" about wanting our open source phones to be completely open and clean.
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Unless you can provide statistics, I wouldn't go around stating things like "most people". For example, the only reason I got a Nexus is because I wanted a flagship Samsung device on Verizon and they decided to skip the Galaxy SII for the Galaxy Nexus. So I had no choice. If it was any other way, I would happily take the Galaxy SII for better performance hardware, better camera, better battery life and TouchWiz 4.0. Since it will clearly be getting ICS very soon, and 100% someone will develop an AOSP ROM for it as well, I would have considered that a much better investment. Where as with a Nexus, I'm stuck with AOSP like it or not.

Stalling Nexus?

Is it just me or are we stuck for a while now switching couple of ROMs that bring out new "features" like updated Market, Amazon Store or launchers?

Wait for more people to get ICS, hey it's all I got.
Also, what the hell more do you want from your phone? Lol.

zerozoneice said:
Is it just me or are we stuck for a while now switching couple of ROMs that bring out new "features" like updated Market, Amazon Store or launchers?
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Lol sounds like you need to follow a real dev if the roms you are using only do that between versions.

adrynalyne said:
Lol sounds like you need to follow a real dev if the roms you are using only do that between versions.
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what's out there besides AOKP and CM9 that does real development?

zerozoneice said:
what's out there besides AOKP and CM9 that does real development?
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Nothing? Besides kernels. A lot of the other roms cherry pick from those.

If all you see as real development is aokp and cm, you arent paying attention. BAMF Paradigm is 100% aokp free and 99% cm free.
The only things we borrowed was the T9 dialer and some of the cm overclocking settings.
If you have used it, you know it is a clone of neither. Aokp has more cm code in their rom than we do.
I am sure there are other original roms out there as well.

You're not going to see much traction on features until Samsung, LG, Motorola, and HTC start releasing ICS phones, and once the developers actually have time to learn about the new features. Historically, a good portion of the options available in ROMs on Nexus phones are cherry-picked and re-engineered from features we see implemented by the manufacturers of the other phones.
My Nexus One that I bought two years ago was plain jane for about 6 months because stock Android was the bleeding edge. Then once the Desire hit the shelves in the U.K. people were scrambling to slap Sense onto the Nexus. Then the Galaxy S came out and people were scrambling to slap TouchWiz onto the Nexus.
Be patient, or learn how to develop for Android so you can make your own contributions to CM and AOKP.

Yea I totally agree. I switched from galaxy s2 i9100 and I kind if miss it. Galaxy s2 had so many roms and so much development was going on. I tried 30+ roms on that beast. The community was well enthusiastic. I really miss hyperdroid and check roms. ... I guess we need to wait and let others joint ICS gang and hope for best.
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lack of development for T-mobile devices?

this isn't meant to entice any kind of flame war, but I was just kind of wondering since I just joined my g/f's plan on T-mobile, and she has the S2 and now I have the S3 .....her S2 only has maybe 2-3 options for ICS roms (besides the standard AOSP)
and I see we're already lagging behind other providers?
just wondering if thats kind of standard, or if things tend to speed up a bit.
or perhaps is there another well known outlet for roms besides XDA for T-mobile? I know I've been coming here since the OG Evo came out and haven't found anything better yet.

The Tmo S2 forums used to be filled with ROMs but the devs stopped deving one after another until there were only a few left.
I'm sure the S3 will have a lot of great devs. Just gotta give it time. Phone has only been out a month.

In my personal opinion, the number of ROMs available doesn't reflect whether a device has good development or bad development. In my experience from the 6 devices I've owned, the VAST majority of "development" is really just people taking the same ROM (usually either the stock one or a CM version) and removing or adding some apps and themeing it. That's not development, that's themeing and doing the same thing anyone else can do with Root Explorer.
It's about quality, not quantity, and with the devs that I've seen around so far it looks like we are in for some great quality ROMs.

gbzbar said:
In my personal opinion, the number of ROMs available doesn't reflect whether a device has good development or bad development. In my experience from the 6 devices I've owned, the VAST majority of "development" is really just people taking the same ROM (usually either the stock one or a CM version) and removing or adding some apps and themeing it. That's not development, that's themeing and doing the same thing anyone else can do with Root Explorer.
It's about quality, not quantity, and with the devs that I've seen around so far it looks like we are in for some great quality ROMs.
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I concur, if the hardware is solid then the development will follow. So far I'm impressed with the work for the gs3 and the speed at which things have already started being released.
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WhitehawkX and RomanBB and a couple others and I think a couple of the other devs from the G2X forums are coming here, those alone mean extremely great things for us. Not to mention Cyanogen, (Steve Kondik) himself may very well own this phone as well. Mostly we already have pretty stable cm9 builds they want cm10 now. AOKP cm10 (whitehawkx and romanBB) have been working on that like crazy. Things will explode no worries. Oh and not to mention we already have Morfic and Faux as kernel devs, they support many devices and do amazing things.
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??

stevessvt said:
Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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I think their update was to remove features. I don't think you want that. :cyclops:

Lack of dev support? Really? As long as we have Steve Kondik (aka Cyanogen) on our side...we'll never lack in the dev dept. Not to mention...Morfic, Faux123, Romanbb...etc. They are, IMO, the best devs XDA has to offer.

Yeah, I don't understand your concern. We have THE premier developer for Android developing for our phones. You want more than Cyanogen himself to have this phone?

stevessvt said:
Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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2 updates were useless the last one tho is good for the notification brightness control, I think is weird that we haven't get one yet, I feel like the us carriers will have jellybean gfirst before tmobile
To the OP Idk man the phone is new the evo didn't explode on development until after 3-4 months, and what I'm waiting the most besides cm10 stable is myns rom, he most likely make it compatible with all us carriers and likes his roms a lot, and the themes he uses it is my favorite so far
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Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
^So far the list isn't long but it's quality over quantity in this instance. Although, I am curious as to whether or not Faux, Eurgene, and Cyanogen own the Tmobile S3 or not.

Ace42 said:
Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
^So far the list isn't long but it's quality over quantity in this instance. Although, I am curious as to whether or not Faux, Eurgene, and Cyanogen own the Tmobile S3 or not.
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I know cyanogen does he posted a pic on his Google plus
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Cyanogen is awesome..but I have no service at my house..so AOSP is out for me next to getting wifi calling working on AOSP
so...while im not saying that we dont have quality dev...its nice to have some variety...for a variety of reasons.

Alanmw86 said:
Cyanogen is awesome..but I have no service at my house..so AOSP is out for me next to getting wifi calling working on AOSP
so...while im not saying that we dont have quality dev...its nice to have some variety...for a variety of reasons.
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TBH most of the variety comes from rehashed ROMs that were already out...Just saying.

I'm just hoping we get MIUI JB soon, I can't wait.

Ace42 said:
Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
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WhitehawkX and Cyanogen as well.
It's seriously like the all-star team of devs working on ROMs for the T Mobile variant.
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TBH most of the variety comes from rehashed ROMs that were already out...Just saying.
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Well said.

Cyanogen and Team kang! What else can you possibly need.
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Alanmw86 said:
this isn't meant to entice any kind of flame war, but I was just kind of wondering since I just joined my g/f's plan on T-mobile, and she has the S2 and now I have the S3 .....her S2 only has maybe 2-3 options for ICS roms (besides the standard AOSP)
and I see we're already lagging behind other providers?
just wondering if thats kind of standard, or if things tend to speed up a bit.
or perhaps is there another well known outlet for roms besides XDA for T-mobile? I know I've been coming here since the OG Evo came out and haven't found anything better yet.
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+1 i agree with op
& I wouldn't consider cyanogen/aosp as a tmobile rom chus there Roms are out for other phones as well and if you look at the cyanogenmod site our device is not even supported on there the international one is..
If you look at the tmobile android development we have like 2 Roms that's actually ment for our tmobile galaxy s3 but theyre not even being updated,team sonic rom was updated on 7/20 but that's about it

marcviado said:
+1 i agree with op
& I wouldn't consider cyanogen/aosp as a tmobile rom chus there Roms are out for other phones as well and if you look at the cyanogenmod site our device is not even supported on there the international one is..
If you look at the tmobile android development we have like 2 Roms that's actually ment for our tmobile galaxy s3 but theyre not even being updated,team sonic rom was updated on 7/20 but that's about it
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I would agree. Even though there's a great lineup of developers as already mentioned, there's a lot less activity in the development section than other carriers. I know others have mentioned quality over quantity but other sections aren't lacking in quality even with the additional rom options.
And since the stock rom is pretty solid, I actually don't mind seeing more tweaked stock roms. Both for customization and optimization.
However, I'm still satisfied with current Sonic rom and as some have mentioned, this is the first phone I've owned that I haven't felt the need to flash something multiple times a week in order for the phone to perform properly.
Samsung did a great job this round producing a phone that performs great out of the box. It only gets better from here and with stock performance being what it is, I can be patient while developers get cooking.

unfortunately there's going to be a chilling effect on AOSP / CM dev'ing until this lost IMEI issue can be understood..

I find it kind of ironic that....

Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different

crixley said:
Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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PA is pretty unique, else I agree
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crixley said:
Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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would be nice if you built a sense rom from scratch... oh wait.
seriously, there's not a ton of different roms because there isnt sense and desensed versions... versions with and without touchwiz/blur.
its stock android. what more do you want?

crixley said:
Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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Not trying to be a **** but you could always develop one yourself.
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do you really have to flash 100 of em? what more do you want that AOKP and AOSP and MIUI isnt delivering? this just makes you sound ungrateful and ignorant. ive been using aokp and miui and im yet to get bored of customization. seriously all the stuff these guys pack into their roms, go get an iphone, im pretty sure they have tons and tons of customization, including their 5th row of icons =___= mods please send this thread into the lands of mordor

ectodroid said:
PA is pretty unique, else I agree
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That is what I'm using actually..
Definitely unique and refreshing.
Bring on the onslaught of butthurt though, people read into what I said wayyyy too much.
I'm just saying on other phones I used there were often sense roms, etc..
Doesn't seem like that kind of thing happens too much over here. I plan on sticking with PA anyway, just something I noticed.

The thing is you can strip down sense/touchwiz/motoblur from devices and run AOSP but not (easily) vice versa. Automatically you have 50% less choice. Ironically its the devices with UI Overlay that seem to give you more options somewhat. Its all a trade off.
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When you get your hands on the SG3 the first thing you are going to do is search out an AOSP ROM and flash. Would that then not surprise you that most ROMs are AOSP?
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I owned a skyrocket before this phone and I actually didn't mind touchwiz tbh...
To the comment about "why don't you develop a rom" I find that kind of a cop out.
Not everyone has learned to write code. I spent 8 years in uni and work 60 hours a week as an electrical engineer.
That is the equivalent of me saying "why don't you do that?"

How about a new OS, such as webOS? That's in the works. Sense and touchwiz launchers have been ported I believe.
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InfDaMarvel said:
How about a new OS, such as webOS? That's in the works. Sense and touchwiz launchers have been ported I believe.
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I'm actually stoked for that...
Some dual boot action would be killer

crixley said:
I owned a skyrocket before this phone and I actually didn't mind touchwiz tbh...
To the comment about "why don't you develop a rom" I find that kind of a cop out.
Not everyone has learned to write code. I spent 8 years in uni and work 60 hours a week as an electrical engineer.
That is the equivalent of me saying "why don't you do that?"
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Not a cop out at all. I'm a big believer in DIY. I like to know how things work, a position I've evolved to. As I said, wasn't trying to be a **** but if you want it why not build it or learn how.
To your point, it could be quite popular if no one else is doing it.
By the way, electrical engineering is your job. If we pay you for that service you should provide it. Dev'ing is usually a hobby, see where I'm going with this...
I know you weren't trying to be offensive, neither was I.
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crixley said:
Although our device is one of the most dev supported, we only really have 100 different variations of aosp roms.
Would be nice to see something different
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Because these are AOSP supported devices, and its relatively easy to build an AOSP ROM compared to trying to port some closed source stuff from Samsung or HTC...
People buy the Nexus to get away from the other skins. I know its all about choice, but I don't see how you can be surprised that there aren't Sense and TouchWiz ROMs.

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Because these are AOSP supported devices, and its relatively easy to build an AOSP ROM compared to trying to port some closed source stuff from Samsung or HTC...
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This.
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It will be nice if HTC or Samsung make their UIs open and easy to put on any device like google did with their stock UI. But they are too greedy to do it.
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ali magdy said:
It will be nice if HTC or Samsung make their UIs open and easy to put on any device like google did with their stock UI. But they are too greedy to do it.
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Its not that they're greedy as much as they want to be reimbursed for their investment in their UI. Why would they bother making all of their own customizations if they were open sourced to the other companies they're competing against?

Why would you get a nexus to have sense, touchwiz or blur in the first place? I thought people wanted a nexus for freedom but then you turn around and people are whining to be put back in the cage. That is what iOS and WPx are for.
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Why would you get a nexus to have sense, touchwiz or blur in the first place? I thought people wanted a nexus for freedom but then you turn around and people are whining to be put back in the cage. That is what iOS and WPx are for.
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Sense to me is free, I've had sense and it was great. Slow because of the device but nonetheless was amazing. Touchwiz is actually really neat too. I bought a nexus because its a pinnacle of modern smart devices as of now. Cheap, great specs and its big, comes with aosp.
I didn't buy it for aosp or any variation of ROMs. I can say though what the **** is the point of having 100+ different ROMs if all of them are the same? I'm using PA but most ROMs I've looked at or tried is basically the same recycled stuff over and over. Rarely do they have any type of new features.
Yes variety would be great. If I had a computer I would learn how to make ROMs and I would help the developers trying to port sense. I love sense.
Being stuck on aosp isn't bad, its the amount of the same damn ROMs over and over that technically piss me off. I understand there is themed/customized/slim/stocky ROMs but its easy to include multiple of those. JbSourcery and CNA do a great job of this.
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On other phones with skins there are many aosp roms because of the relative unbloatedness. We already have that stock.
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There are already people trying to port touchwiz, sense and blur, the Vicious team I believe. Progress is slow, but Sense is the furthest along.
The reason why we have I suppose less variety than skinned phones is because those phones come with the respective skins preconfigured to the hardware it's running on. Ours did not, so that means in order for us to have said skins developers pretty much have to write/port drivers for the hardware in our devices that don't match up to HTC etc. devices they are grabbing the rom from. This is very slow business, and lots don't bother since phone turnover rates are ridiculous.
This sounds like a bad thing, but on the plus side AOSP was designed for our exact hardware, so it runs better and is more compatible with stock google releases. For those of us who just flash AOSP on to our respective phones anyway it makes the Nexus line a better choice. If you prefer a specific skin, it's best to just buy a phone that comes with it, and go from there.

Where are the flavours?

This is a respectful moan....
How come on the Nexus forums all the roms are the same????
Now let me get one thing cleared up first, I am not a developer, I have rudimentary knowledge and know enough to get by and install the mods on this forum. I am not aiming this at any developer in particular and I am very grateful to those who spend their time making these Roms and for that I thank you.
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
Here on our forums are 10 shades of the same look, and im just wondering why? how? Just pure coincidence? Is it because a Nexus device is similar to AOSP by default??
I like my nexus and I love the forum are the hard workers making these free roms but I switched to a Nexus phone and tab because they are developers phones, easy to hack etc but it seems that the creativity on this part of XDA is stunted somehow, Phones that are harder to hack like for example the HTC Desire HD have way more variety like the challenge is worth seeing how much stuff can be ported.
This is not a ***** and is not intended to offend those who work hard on this forum but just food for thought, what are your experiences / thoughts?

exekias said:
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
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ppl buy the nexus to run AOSP roms

k786 said:
ppl buy the nexus to run AOSP roms
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Well yes and no....
I bought the Nexus because on most of my phones i ended up running AOSP eventually so this was a logical purchase but i also ran MIUI for such a long time and miss it tbh.
It would be fair to say a segment of Nexus owners buy for the AOSP feel but not all and only, most don't know what they are buying / getting into or some don't see the whole picture (like me)
Cheers

These are personal opinions, aint worth nothing. You want ports? Port it yourself.
Miui? With all xda, and all the devices, you people keep asking for bloated ****, senses and what not. Tsk. Rather use B2G or Flyme.
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bk201doesntexist said:
These are personal opinions, aint worth nothing. You want ports? Port it yourself.
Miui? With all xda, and all the devices, you people keep asking for bloated ****, senses and what not. Tsk. Rather use B2G or Flyme.
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Oh yes how witty of you to jump to the exulted persona of some one who uttered "port it yourself"
I was simply asking for opinions and insights as to why their is less variety on a device that is meant to be modified, as such a visitor to a town comments on what is different in this locale.
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
You have misread my intentions in your rush to be oh so common internet troll
And some bloatware is nice, i particular enjoy MIUI because it is aesthetically pleasing despite the fact I turn most features off.
Thank you for your input, Im sure all the developers on this forum feel safe from evil doers like me with you to back them up

I have the same feeling m8, but maybe this is happening because 4.2.1 has lots of bugs and maybe dev's are waiting for google to clean the mess.
I also came from S2 where we had lots of aokp based roms, really, those were my favourite, here I can barely see aokp roms or cm10 based ones.
I havn't bought my Nexus ONLY to try aosp rom's like other said, that makes no sense.
I'm really thankful to dev's that "invest" their time in this community, which is great, and I'm not moaning, it's just like an observation.
And btw, personal opinions matter, that's why this community exists and develops itself, cuz we all have an opinion.

I got hardcore flamed for asking the same question...
people around here are touchy as hell lol

The nexus s and nexus one have a million Roms from other devices ported already.. I imagine the galaxy nexus will receive the same treatment in time.
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akira02rex said:
The nexus s and nexus one have a million Roms from other devices ported already.. I imagine the galaxy nexus will receive the same treatment in time.
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That's because the One and the S are nearly identical, hardware wise, to the HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy S, while the Galaxy Nexus is quite different compared to the S2
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You should have just looked at the forum before buying the phone. Most people on this forum want to run AOSP. That's just how it works. Quit *****ing.

exekias said:
Oh yes how witty of you to jump to the exulted persona of some one who uttered "port it yourself"
I was simply asking for opinions and insights as to why their is less variety on a device that is meant to be modified, as such a visitor to a town comments on what is different in this locale.
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
You have misread my intentions in your rush to be oh so common internet troll
And some bloatware is nice, i particular enjoy MIUI because it is aesthetically pleasing despite the fact I turn most features off.
Thank you for your input, Im sure all the developers on this forum feel safe from evil doers like me with you to back them up
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Epic reply XD
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Yes , I have the same thoughts , Gnex seriously has lack of varities of roms , mostly because I think the HW of gnex is quite different wrt the flagship oem phones , it may be really hard to port it to our beloved gnex

exekias said:
This is a respectful moan....
How come on the Nexus forums all the roms are the same????
Now let me get one thing cleared up first, I am not a developer, I have rudimentary knowledge and know enough to get by and install the mods on this forum. I am not aiming this at any developer in particular and I am very grateful to those who spend their time making these Roms and for that I thank you.
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
Here on our forums are 10 shades of the same look, and im just wondering why? how? Just pure coincidence? Is it because a Nexus device is similar to AOSP by default??
I like my nexus and I love the forum are the hard workers making these free roms but I switched to a Nexus phone and tab because they are developers phones, easy to hack etc but it seems that the creativity on this part of XDA is stunted somehow, Phones that are harder to hack like for example the HTC Desire HD have way more variety like the challenge is worth seeing how much stuff can be ported.
This is not a ***** and is not intended to offend those who work hard on this forum but just food for thought, what are your experiences / thoughts?
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Although I haven't noticed such a thing before, I found that your observation is true
Personally, I had my S II and started trying ROMs then could not be satisfied on a ROM choice until I could cook my own ROM Afterwards I switched to GNex and I am following the same way of making my own ROM which I really enjoy a lot more on GNex because I am building from source not just modifying Samsung's ROMs as with S II
So basically I feel that this device is intended more for those who like pure experience, but still in the "Themes and Apps" section there are some ports like S III TouchWiz so probably after reaching a good level of such porting then someone may start implementing it in a ROM thus we have a new ROM style? I hope so

sshede said:
You should have just looked at the forum before buying the phone. Most people on this forum want to run AOSP. That's just how it works. Quit *****ing.
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Again, NOT, *****ing, you have misread the intention
sergini said:
And btw, personal opinions matter, that's why this community exists and develops itself, cuz we all have an opinion.
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Thank you
crixley said:
I got hardcore flamed for asking the same question...
people around here are touchy as hell lol
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Again thank you, you are right people are touchy as hell about this subject, really cant imagine why
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Epic reply XD
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deepayanneogi said:
Yes , I have the same thoughts , Gnex seriously has lack of varities of roms , mostly because I think the HW of gnex is quite different wrt the flagship oem phones , it may be really hard to port it to our beloved gnex
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If thats true, than thats a bit of a bummer, and Exactly what this thread was aimed at finding out, if our Gnex is difficult to code for despite being easy to unlock then thats a perfectly acceptable excuse for the lack of variety, thank you
ahmadallica said:
Although I haven't noticed such a thing before, I found that your observation is true
Personally, I had my S II and started trying ROMs then could not be satisfied on a ROM choice until I could cook my own ROM Afterwards I switched to GNex and I am following the same way of making my own ROM which I really enjoy a lot more on GNex because I am building from source not just modifying Samsung's ROMs as with S II
So basically I feel that this device is intended more for those who like pure experience, but still in the "Themes and Apps" section there are some ports like S III TouchWiz so probably after reaching a good level of such porting then someone may start implementing it in a ROM thus we have a new ROM style? I hope so
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I spend a lot of time in the themes and apps section for that sole purpose as well not to mention spending countless $$ of new launchers just to change the feel. Its a vicious cycle, we have been given the ability to change android how we want and for most of is, it isnt good enough we want more.

Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.

jxr94 said:
Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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Well having an open source hardware with all the binaries available seems to be the curse of gnex now, with many of the OEM phone dev's tirelessly working to remake binaries for closed hardware , here we have a completely open device with nothing more then AOSP ! .I'm up for asop as the next person in this forum but how about some innovations that can compete with OEM and eventually be part of android by default ?
As my previous poster says there's AOSP which is same as stock minus the gaaps then there is CM made from AOSP which is the most innovative followed/mirrored closely by aokp and then we have there derivatives with PA being a derivative of CM and CNA being the derivative of both CM and AOKP,
we have a ton of rom's but they are all twins of one another with AOSP being the eldest
Just my thoughts :highfive:

jxr94 said:
Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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There's a few others that pop up and down (like BAMF) which are their own flavours and dependent sometimes on exactly which GNex you have. I've occasionally seen links to others that the devs seem to have a personal issue with being mentioned on xda -- and so they're out there but I honestly have no idea where else to look.

exekias said:
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
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A restaurant is a business, which exists to make money... the logic of your "rebuttal" implies that rom developers do what they do for the purpose of making a profit, which isn't the case.
This forum isn't a diner where you can complain that your eggs aren't cooked right... everything that's here (roms/themes/mods/etc...) is here because someone devoted their free time and efforts.
If the lack of sense/touchwiz/whatever roms is such a big deal... maybe you should have done your research before buying it.

starnostar said:
A restaurant is a business, which exists to make money... the logic of your "rebuttal" implies that rom developers do what they do for the purpose of making a profit, which isn't the case.
This forum isn't a diner where you can complain that your eggs aren't cooked right... everything that's here (roms/themes/mods/etc...) is here because someone devoted their free time and efforts.
If the lack of sense/touchwiz/whatever roms is such a big deal... maybe you should have done your research before buying it.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of restaurants, especially ones good enough to be critiqued, start their business for the pure joy of their trade. So your argument is invalid.
Food is supposed to be prepared the way you order it. Much in the same way that you look thru the "menu" of xda (ROM features) before you order (download/install). If something is wrong with it (GPS borked, camera fc etc) anyone will send it back to the chef. So again, your argument is invalid.

AmericanCon said:
I'm pretty sure a lot of restaurants, especially ones good enough to be critiqued, start their business for the pure joy of their trade. So your argument is invalid.
Food is supposed to be prepared the way you order it. Much in the same way that you look thru the "menu" of xda (ROM features) before you order (download/install). If something is wrong with it (GPS borked, camera fc etc) anyone will send it back to the chef. So again, your argument is invalid.
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You don't "order" a ROM. You either use it or don't. Nobody is forcing you to use a ROM, if you don't like it then you make your own.
Nobody cares if arguments are "invalid" in your opinion. You don't have one bit of authority to back it up.